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Hello from Henstridge Airfield, home of the Dorset and Somerset Air | :00:06. | :00:10. | |
Ambulance. Tonight: Local air ambulance | :00:10. | :00:13. | |
services like this could be under threat from a new national | :00:13. | :00:19. | |
children's air ambulance service. If funds drop for local air | :00:19. | :00:24. | |
ambulances, it could curtail their flying. People could die if the air | :00:24. | :00:28. | |
ambulance isn't flying. Also tonight: We meet a woman | :00:28. | :00:30. | |
trying to get disaffected youngsters in South Bristol back on | :00:30. | :00:40. | |
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track. I truly believe that God loves every single individual on | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
this estate and it is my job to show them that they are loved. | :00:46. | :00:53. | |
And we tell the remarkable story of the last plane built at Filton. | :00:53. | :00:59. | |
is trying, isn't it? It has never run before. It is remain male! | :01:00. | :01:09. | |
I'm Alastair McKee and this is In our first film tonight, we're | :01:09. | :01:13. | |
looking into a charity promising to save lives. The Children's Air | :01:13. | :01:17. | |
Ambulance was set up six years ago, but as yet hasn't managed to fly a | :01:17. | :01:20. | |
single child anywhere. And, as Matthew Hill has been finding out, | :01:20. | :01:23. | |
the charity has sparked an almighty row among existing air ambulance | :01:23. | :01:33. | |
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They're called the Angels of the sky. And it's not hard to see why. | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
Air ambulances like this one are run by charities. And, as charities, | :01:42. | :01:47. | |
they depend entirely on donations to save lives. | :01:47. | :01:53. | |
Each region has its own air ambulance service. They're distinct | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
and separate from each other. There are 16 different services covering | :01:56. | :02:01. | |
their own distinct parts of the country. Each of these services | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
raise money in their own patch. But now there's a charity that says | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
it wants to start a new service - a national helicopter dedicated to | :02:09. | :02:15. | |
transporting sick children between hospitals. | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
It's not playing by the same unwritten fundraising rules | :02:17. | :02:22. | |
everyone else. And there are fears this could impact on existing air | :02:22. | :02:27. | |
ambulance services. If funds curtail their flying, | :02:27. | :02:34. | |
people could die. This new children's service has | :02:34. | :02:40. | |
cost nearly �2m but so far not a single child has been transported. | :02:40. | :02:42. | |
There are questions over its motives and how it's spending | :02:42. | :02:47. | |
donations. But its backers believe in its future. | :02:47. | :02:53. | |
If the public get behind this then it's worth every penny. | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
But how realistic is their vision to create a national children's | :02:55. | :03:00. | |
helicopter service? And what cost will it have on other air | :03:00. | :03:10. | |
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It's a Sunday afternoon in January and the crew of the Dorset and | :03:22. | :03:25. | |
Somerset Air Ambulance are on their way to an accident. It's a | :03:25. | :03:31. | |
suspected head injury. This is to protect your neck in case you have | :03:31. | :03:36. | |
done any damage we can't see. Are you comfy? | :03:36. | :03:38. | |
The Dorset and Somerset Air Ambulance flies 700 missions a year. | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
It wouldn't be possible without money collected in places like this | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
garage in Wellington in Somerset. Bill Siveright is the charity's | :03:46. | :03:56. | |
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Chief Executive. Hollow, I have come to change your box. Here is | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
the new one. But lately there's been a new collection box here and | :04:00. | :04:04. | |
it's causing confusion. My concern is the people who hold | :04:04. | :04:08. | |
the boxes don't really understand. You don't know about this one. This | :04:08. | :04:14. | |
one is based in Coventry. The owner of this box operates two | :04:14. | :04:17. | |
emergency helicopter services for people living in the Midlands, but | :04:17. | :04:19. | |
wants to start a new national service dedicated to transferring | :04:19. | :04:21. | |
children between hospitals.They plan to offer this retrieval | :04:21. | :04:30. | |
service by using one helicopter to cover the entire country. | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
But what's not clear is that some of the money raised in pots like | :04:33. | :04:42. | |
these actually goes on running their other services as well. It is | :04:42. | :04:52. | |
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not yet saving lives nationwide. And that's causing concern locally. | :04:55. | :04:58. | |
It's presenting itself as a nationwide service now when, in | :04:58. | :05:00. | |
fact, only the Children's Air Ambulance part of that organisation | :05:00. | :05:03. | |
actually has a nationwide role. The other two are still regional air | :05:03. | :05:13. | |
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ambulances just like ours. I would argue that it is impractical to | :05:16. | :05:20. | |
expect one aircraft to work nationwide. The will is not the | :05:20. | :05:26. | |
only person to have concerns. We spoke to several former volunteers | :05:26. | :05:36. | |
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and employees of the company. Opera parish is one of them. | :05:41. | :05:44. | |
Why did you leave? Because I was really very, very | :05:44. | :05:48. | |
unhappy with the way in which the charity was moving. It was no | :05:48. | :05:55. | |
longer a charity. It had become a hard-nosed business. You saw the | :05:55. | :05:57. | |
development of officers, the recruitment of more and more senior | :05:57. | :05:59. | |
people. What do you mean? | :05:59. | :06:01. | |
The balance was swaying tremendously in favour of the | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
upkeep of the charity: salaries, cars, the recruitment of more and | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
more senior personnel. One of those senior personnel was | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
the head of PR and was paid through a public relations company called | :06:10. | :06:11. | |
Loquendi. Did you know about Loquendi? | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
Yes I'd heard of Loquendi because Andy, the CEO of the Air Ambulance | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
was married to the director of Loquendi. And Loquendi, I know, | :06:17. | :06:23. | |
organised events that benefitted the air ambulance. | :06:23. | :06:25. | |
Barbara also says Loquendi helped book celebrities for charity events | :06:25. | :06:27. | |
and that they were paid for their appearances. | :06:27. | :06:32. | |
What's wrong with celebrity endorsement if it brings in money? | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
It depends on how it's promoted, whether it's perceived that | :06:35. | :06:45. | |
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somebody's appearing free of charge. What element is charged, what | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
profit is made from the event. The charity's spending on | :06:50. | :06:52. | |
celebrities, it seems, was not only confined to fundraising events. | :06:52. | :07:02. | |
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Barbara also told me she remembers a staff get-together. | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
It was in this Village Hall in Dunchurch, in Rugby. Anton Du Beke | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
and Erin Boag from BBC's Strictly Come Dancing were invited to give | :07:10. | :07:12. | |
dancing lessons to the staff. It was organised by the chief | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
executive Andy Williamson.She claims it cost the charity several | :07:15. | :07:17. | |
thousand pounds. Barbara also says some staff were paid performance- | :07:18. | :07:22. | |
related bonuses. She herself received �3,500 - something she now | :07:22. | :07:30. | |
regrets. According to their latest accounts, Andy Williamson, the Air | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
Ambulance's chief executive, is paid between �110 and �119,000. I | :07:35. | :07:44. | |
think it's time to meet the man. I've come to Coventry Airport. It's | :07:44. | :07:50. | |
home of The Air Ambulance Service and where he's based. Why did you | :07:50. | :07:54. | |
choose the name 'The Air Ambulance Service'? | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
Well, the Air Ambulance Service is a good reflection of what we are | :07:57. | :08:04. | |
actually doing. But on your collection boxes it's | :08:04. | :08:07. | |
"The Air Ambulance" - people think of that as being a national charity | :08:07. | :08:11. | |
when it's not really. No I don't think they do. I think | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
there is no confusion what so ever between different charities. All | :08:13. | :08:18. | |
the information is freely available. Is it appropriate for your charity | :08:18. | :08:24. | |
to have paid Loquendi for services when it's director is your wife? | :08:24. | :08:29. | |
It's not any kind of conflict. We are looking at whatever services | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
that we need to provide for our staff, for our organisation because | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
in the end we have to deliver very substantial sums to deliver patient | :08:35. | :08:40. | |
care. Did you have any hand in her | :08:40. | :08:46. | |
appointment? Who did it then? | :08:46. | :08:49. | |
We have a board of trustees that ensure that all our processes and | :08:49. | :08:51. | |
all our governance is absolutely correct | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
So you think your wife is the best person for that job? | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
Well, absolutely. You paid Strictly Come Dancing | :08:58. | :09:08. | |
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Everything is about the patients. However many staff we have, we need | :09:23. | :09:28. | |
to keep them motivated, we need to keep them focused on delivering | :09:28. | :09:34. | |
their role that ensures that we deliver that patient care. This | :09:34. | :09:39. | |
helicopter will cost �2 million a year to operate. In the last month, | :09:39. | :09:45. | |
it has transported four Medical teams. So far, it hasn't | :09:45. | :09:50. | |
transferred a single child. Mr Williamson's charity isn't the only | :09:50. | :09:57. | |
one looking at the air transfer service for Sick children. The NHS | :09:57. | :10:03. | |
has commissioned a report on how it can be achieved. We have obtained a | :10:03. | :10:09. | |
leaked copy. This draft report recommends a network of different | :10:09. | :10:15. | |
providers, including regional air ambulance. Looking at the report, | :10:15. | :10:19. | |
it is apparent a single helicopter ambulance based in Coventry may not | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
be able to meet the emergency response times for all parts of the | :10:23. | :10:29. | |
country. Even if it could, less than a quarter of our hospitals | :10:29. | :10:38. | |
have a helipad for it to land on. The arguments continue about the | :10:38. | :10:43. | |
way it is using its helicopter to raise money and how that is | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
impacting on local services. Isn't this just that you are feeling | :10:47. | :10:53. | |
threatened by another charity that could be a competitor? In Dorset | :10:53. | :10:57. | |
and Somerset, there are lots of big charities. I don't feel threatened | :10:57. | :11:03. | |
by any of them. The donors know what they are giving to. They are | :11:04. | :11:08. | |
giving to the air ambulance service and we are Dorset and Somerset air | :11:08. | :11:15. | |
ambulance. You can understand the confusion. If the opportunity to | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
raise funds for the local Air Ambulance ADI midgets -- are | :11:20. | :11:26. | |
diminished through lack of funds, there is a way that you could | :11:26. | :11:32. | |
jeopardise people's lives. Later in the programme, One man's dream to | :11:33. | :11:39. | |
build his own Spitfire. The pot is bare. Everything I own it was in | :11:39. | :11:47. | |
that spit fire. -- Spitfire. They are more than a million people in | :11:47. | :11:53. | |
England who aren't in education, employment or training. Figures | :11:53. | :11:59. | |
show one in 516-24-year-olds did have a college place for a job. We | :11:59. | :12:04. | |
have been too hot cliff, one of the city's poorest areas of Bristol, | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
meeting a woman who is helping getting disaffected youngsters back | :12:08. | :12:16. | |
on track. This is Terry Williams and this is | :12:16. | :12:25. | |
the football team she runs as part of her charity. The Hartcliffe | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
Saints is our football team. We train the once a Wycombe we are in | :12:29. | :12:36. | |
the Bristol Churches League. The boy's arm -- the boys I work with | :12:36. | :12:42. | |
orange -- the boys that I work with the haven't worked. Dan Williams is | :12:42. | :12:49. | |
the team captain. He is 20 now and has never had a proper job. Zoe is | :12:49. | :12:53. | |
no football fan but wants to teach them about commitment. Training | :12:53. | :13:02. | |
We come out on a night like this because it gives them something to | :13:02. | :13:09. | |
do and it is a really good activity that they love. They -- their love | :13:09. | :13:15. | |
for it excels my heat for it. is giving up more of her spare time | :13:15. | :13:22. | |
to give these guys a chance. With the help of her housemates and | :13:22. | :13:27. | |
fellow volunteers, so Wii has turned her home in heart cliff into | :13:27. | :13:35. | |
a part-time youth club for Dan and seemed to dislike him. | :13:35. | :13:40. | |
For the older boys, we have an open-door policy. If the back door | :13:40. | :13:46. | |
is unlocked, they are allowed in. If it is locked, they tend to only | :13:46. | :13:51. | |
knock on the front door or the front window. If it is an emergency, | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
the main factor for us in the house is that we are motivated by our | :13:56. | :14:02. | |
faith. I truly believe that God loves every single person and | :14:02. | :14:07. | |
individual on this estate. It is my job to show them that they are | :14:07. | :14:13. | |
loved. I grew up in Hartcliffe and I guess, for me, it is home. That | :14:13. | :14:21. | |
is part of my medication -- motivation. My mum was a drug | :14:21. | :14:26. | |
addict when she was a teenager and then got pregnant with me. When I | :14:26. | :14:32. | |
was a baby, she became a Christian. For her, she went on to be a mature | :14:32. | :14:37. | |
student and got a degree in economics and computers. It brought | :14:37. | :14:44. | |
me up with different expectations. Expectations that Zoe is trying to | :14:44. | :14:53. | |
pass on to dam and his friend, Chris. The boys are signing on at | :14:53. | :14:58. | |
the moment and we are trying to get them some apprenticeship forms to | :14:58. | :15:04. | |
complete so they can apply for some staff. Dan lives with his mum and | :15:04. | :15:09. | |
gets �50 a week in benefits. He needs to list the few | :15:09. | :15:19. | |
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qualifications he has on the form. It is about hanging around with my | :15:27. | :15:32. | |
mates but the downside is not having a job. He started to come | :15:32. | :15:36. | |
here three years ago. From the outside it looks like progress has | :15:36. | :15:43. | |
been slow. At the time he was in trouble with the police. It was | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
pretty crazy. In the last six months to a year, we have started | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
applying for jobs and support him on that level. Two years ago, that | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
wouldn't have been a possibility because there was no point in doing | :15:56. | :16:02. | |
that. He wouldn't have been able to hold down a job. Zoe has been | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
trying to arrange work-experience for him at a local after-school | :16:05. | :16:15. | |
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club for the last five years -- Zoe meets with the boys to go for a | :16:23. | :16:28. | |
run. It is part of a routine to keep them out of trouble. While | :16:28. | :16:34. | |
they jog, she makes a meal for everyone. Anywhere between five and | :16:34. | :16:44. | |
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15 boys might show up to eat. They Nice jacket, mate. Boys, come on. | :16:56. | :17:00. | |
Food is really important. It is sociable. Lots of them wouldn't | :17:00. | :17:06. | |
have eaten with their families most of the week. It is just an idea of | :17:06. | :17:13. | |
being sociable and doing her family things together. | :17:13. | :17:18. | |
The more you mess around, the more you eat into your time. | :17:18. | :17:23. | |
Thursday night training is a key part of Zoe's tried to teach boys | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
about discipline. For oddball is not a right, it is a | :17:27. | :17:34. | |
reward. The boys have to learn that reward. I am pretty strict. For | :17:34. | :17:39. | |
every swear word that they say in my presence, or if they called | :17:39. | :17:44. | |
Gerda -- if they call girls words, they have to do press-ups. If they | :17:44. | :17:51. | |
are in trouble with police they get banned from matches. | :17:51. | :17:54. | |
On Sundays, it so we are Thames's This big popular church on the | :17:55. | :17:59. | |
other side of Bristol. Sometimes a few of the football team come as | :17:59. | :18:04. | |
well. This evening, they are helping it | :18:04. | :18:08. | |
was so weak serve refreshments between services. Most of the | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
funding for so we's charity comes from church donations. So, what is | :18:13. | :18:19. | |
more important to have? Getting Dan -- getting that into work or | :18:19. | :18:27. | |
church? If they want to come to church, that is up to them. Some do | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
and some don't. I will still write 1000 applications with them, no | :18:31. | :18:38. | |
question. Pam has decided to join the church and he has been baptised. | :18:39. | :18:45. | |
In it was my own decision what I did. All of my mates might make | :18:45. | :18:49. | |
silly little jokes. Before I got baptised I would get drunk all the | :18:49. | :18:55. | |
time, but I don't do that anymore. Becoming a Christian may have | :18:55. | :19:01. | |
improved Dan's behaviour, but his time management still needs work. | :19:01. | :19:06. | |
Than it was supposed to meet me here this afternoon to go and do | :19:06. | :19:12. | |
some work experience, but as life is chaotic for lots of the boys, he | :19:12. | :19:17. | |
forgot and bought a football ticket to see Bristol City. It is a missed | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
opportunity for him to beast his confidence and build self-esteem. | :19:22. | :19:31. | |
That is where my frustration is. Despite the setback, so we is not | :19:31. | :19:37. | |
about to give up. Saturday I thought we have not had a team | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
photo this season. Most of them would say I am more | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
harsh than their parents, but I think that is what family is. Being | :19:46. | :19:50. | |
there through the thick and thin and the rubbish and when they are | :19:50. | :20:00. | |
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naughty and when they are great. The team is, Jack, Johnny, will. | :20:01. | :20:05. | |
On 21st December last year, up Bristol's Filton airport closed its | :20:06. | :20:11. | |
runway after 100 years in business. Racing to beat that deadline, one | :20:11. | :20:16. | |
man was putting finishing touches to a refurbishment that had taken | :20:16. | :20:21. | |
13 years. In our final film, David Stafford tells the remarkable story | :20:21. | :20:30. | |
of the last plane built at Feltham. This is how it all began, for his | :20:30. | :20:34. | |
40th birthday, Martin Phillips was given a rivet just like one of | :20:34. | :20:39. | |
these. I was presented with a large carton | :20:39. | :20:45. | |
and it was filled with polystyrene and in the middle of it was a | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
solitary refer it. I thought they were laughing at me so I thought I | :20:49. | :20:54. | |
would have the ultimate lath and present them with a Spitfire. Over | :20:54. | :21:00. | |
the next 30 years, he arranged bits around the rivet to make a Spitfire. | :21:00. | :21:06. | |
Not bad for a man who normally makes plastic aeroplanes. | :21:06. | :21:12. | |
He painted over it, but I know where it is. It is that big Rivett. | :21:12. | :21:18. | |
That started it all. If it is a foggy November afternoon in Bristol, | :21:18. | :21:23. | |
a big day for John Hart, who has overseen the assembly of the spit | :21:23. | :21:29. | |
fire. Today is the day we bring it outside and hopefully it will run. | :21:29. | :21:33. | |
There are a million things that could go wrong, but I'm sure it | :21:33. | :21:38. | |
will be fine. There are hundreds of joints and although we have | :21:38. | :21:43. | |
pressure tested them, the engine will do the ultimate test. | :21:43. | :21:50. | |
The mighty Merlin engine has been silent for more than half-a-century. | :21:50. | :21:55. | |
I am feeling a bit funny at the moment. Nothing can go wrong. The | :21:55. | :22:01. | |
first flight is just weeks away, at the day the airport shuts up shop. | :22:01. | :22:08. | |
Fingers crossed this is it. Probably �800,000 worth. A lot of | :22:08. | :22:13. | |
meat fuel will be running around. We don't know what will happen. It | :22:13. | :22:20. | |
is quite exciting. Unlike thousands of other Spitfires, this one never | :22:20. | :22:27. | |
flew over wartime Europe. Instead, it saw service in South Africa. | :22:27. | :22:37. | |
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is trying it, isn't it. It is running now! Keep it going! | :22:38. | :22:43. | |
spark that lit Martin's passion was a love of and pride in British | :22:43. | :22:48. | |
engineering, but back when this all started, he had one big question on | :22:48. | :22:58. | |
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his mind. I thought, well, I will just go and buy a spit fire. I | :22:59. | :23:04. | |
wondered then, how the hell do you buy a spit fire? He tried the | :23:04. | :23:10. | |
internet, no luck, Yellow Pages, drew a blank. He began to think his | :23:10. | :23:15. | |
search was entirely futile, but then in Worthing he found a man who | :23:15. | :23:22. | |
had a lot of equipment in his back garden. Negotiations ensued, a sum | :23:22. | :23:32. | |
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of �70,000 changed hands, Martin It gives me a lot of the original | :23:39. | :23:47. | |
parts and doughty facts. I am intending to find as many original | :23:48. | :23:55. | |
parts as I can. This is what makes a Spitfire Singh. This is the | :23:55. | :24:05. | |
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actual engine that came with the project. This is the information. | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
One of this bit Nottinghamshire Fire and Rescue Service's wings was | :24:10. | :24:18. | |
found in a hedgerow where it had crashed during the war. -- first | :24:18. | :24:28. | |
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spit Nottinghamshire Fire and Nobody talks about the end cost. We | :24:29. | :24:35. | |
dream of �550,000. Luckily, Martin owns a plant hire business and | :24:35. | :24:45. | |
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today he is shifting one wing into And so began the more than a decade | :24:46. | :24:55. | |
of stripping, building and testing. Some components had to be specially | :24:55. | :25:02. | |
made about 70% are original parts. Here we have the real pit. Four of | :25:02. | :25:06. | |
sheep's wool, horse hair in the back. Can't believe that somebody | :25:06. | :25:16. | |
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canopy ready to go. Martin has to satisfy the Civil Aviation | :25:19. | :25:24. | |
Authority, that every part is correct and documented, especially | :25:24. | :25:34. | |
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those rivets. That rivet there, 30 today amateur. -- total diameter. | :25:37. | :25:47. | |
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18th December last year. The world's largest passenger plane is | :25:52. | :26:02. | |
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making his last flight out. In two days' time, the airport will shut | :26:04. | :26:10. | |
for good. Martin's little sweetheart has a curious twist of | :26:10. | :26:16. | |
history and will be the last plane to be built here. Will this one fly | :26:16. | :26:21. | |
today? It is a silly question but what is the emotion like? I am | :26:22. | :26:28. | |
running on adrenalin now. I might have a tear or two. How much is it | :26:28. | :26:36. | |
costing? The pot is bare. Everything I own is in it. Now that | :26:36. | :26:43. | |
lucky man has to fly the thing. For the first time in decades, it will | :26:43. | :26:52. | |
be airborne. It is in safe hands. have flown several in the past few | :26:52. | :27:00. | |
years. This is the most iconic and perfect spit fire. It looks right | :27:00. | :27:10. | |
and has a good history behind it. This is it. The moment Martin has | :27:10. | :27:20. | |
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dreamed of for 13 years. To everyone offer a certain age and | :27:25. | :27:35. | |
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younger, it is lump in her throat What was the best bit? Bill saying, | :27:56. | :28:06. | |
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"Martin, what a fantastic Air aeroplane." what a milestone. | :28:10. | :28:18. | |
iconic bit of British history. it, do it. Keep our British | :28:18. | :28:24. | |
heritage alive. That is about it for this week. You can always keep | :28:24. | :28:34. | |
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in touch with what we are up to on Next week, why did it take more | :28:37. | :28:41. | |
than seven years for this man's child abuse crimes to come to | :28:41. | :28:46. |