09/09/2013 Inside Out West

Hello from GCHQ, in Cheltenham. Tonight we're heading to the other

glimpse inside the government's Tonight we're heading to the other

secret intelligence agency. ??NEWLNE For the first time ever a former

director speaks out about his secret life. The government did what it

reference to it. They would never give any answer if you asked about

??NEWLNE Also on the programme — food poverty. We assess its impact

on a young woman in Bristol. I try and get whatever is easiest and

on a young woman in Bristol. I try ??NEWLNE And from the village green

to Lord's. The first cup has got us to last 64. We follow a local club

competing at the world's most famous I'm Alastair McKee and this is

In a moment we'll be taking a peek first food poverty, now thought

In a moment we'll be taking a peek be a reality for some four million

people in this country. And as we found out, it's a life that goes

This is single mum Kirsty Pointing. At just 24 she faces an uncertain

future with her daughter Emily. She's living on benefits on the

Southmead estate in Bristol. I have to pay bills, gas and electric.

Southmead estate in Bristol. I have also for baby milk. I only get about

34 ports of milk with my benefits. I have been waiting for seven or eight

months to get a two bed apartment. I do not seem to be getting anywhere.

It's a tough life. Bills come round too often and food prices keep going

up. Kirsty, who has a hearing and speech disability, is just one of

Country finding themselves broke and struggling with food. She lives

Country finding themselves broke and cramped one—bedroom flat with barely

enough space to swing one of the two cats she rescued. Her shower room

also has to act as temporary storage for her pram. It is disgusting.

also has to act as temporary storage is absolutely foul. There is so

little space. One of my daughters are starting to grow up and she

would like a bigger room but she will The kitchen may be the centre

of most family's homes but for Kirsty it's way too small, so small

in fact that her fridge—freezer Kirsty it's way too small, so small

After a shopping trip, Kirsty sorts out her food in the only place with

space. I cannot have all six banks in the kitchen because there is

space. I cannot have all six banks space. I find fresh food goes off

and I only have one food cupboard and the whole of the kitchen. I

and I only have one food cupboard like quick and convenient meals

really. What ever is easiest and cheapest, whatever I can be bothered

to cook. The most important thing is Food poverty has been hitting the

headlines this year, so I'm calling in on Kirsty to hear how hard it is

Kirsty. And you must be Emily. Hello, I am Alistair. Can I come in?

Southmead has more than its fair share of problems. Anti—social

behaviour is the biggest issue on the estate and accounts for more

than a third of all crimes. For many, the realities of poor housing,

hopelessness and abandonment are hard to live with. I do not eat

getting my daughter ready. Do you find you do not have time? I want to

interact with my daughter when I am out and about. When you do find

interact with my daughter when I am time to eat, what do you need? I

mostly ate on the go, things like sandwiches, crisps and snacks.

Rubbish type of food. July Cup the way that you eat? No. I have been

eating these ten kinds of food because it is cheaper. It is more

Recent reports show half a million people in the country have turned to

food banks in the last year and people in the country have turned to

getting worse. Dr Eldin Fahmy has spent years researching poverty

getting worse. Dr Eldin Fahmy has social exclusion. If you are living

on a low income than that create additional barriers to achieving a

healthy and nutritious diet. For example, people who are experiencing

poverty are more likely to live example, people who are experiencing

areas where it is difficult to Food poverty is not just about a

lack of food and having to turn Food poverty is not just about a

food banks, it's also about poor food choices. Kirsty knows she has

to break her bad eating habits for the sake of her health and that

to break her bad eating habits for her daughter. So she has spent five

weeks on a course learning to cook healthier meals on a budget. If

weeks on a course learning to cook are making your things from scratch,

you are more in control of what are making your things from scratch,

into your recipes. You can adapt things. It is cheaper, it is fun, it

is healthier. We will start by putting the butter into a ball.

is healthier. We will start by will mix that with the sugar and

What I notice is that people do will mix that with the sugar and

a lot more come on the courses. will mix that with the sugar and

will then share their ideas with other people and they are not more

confident. I often work with people who lack confidence and by the end

of the course they feel much better and we can show people how to do

things better. Me and my husband used to save money but each month

that pot got smaller and smaller because of the Price of Football

rising and we had to shop around the different supermarkets and buy the

cheaper brands. That was so that we could provide the food for our

As they say, the proof is in the pudding, but would Kirsty give it

the thumbs up? If you are struggling for money and you are not on income

support, I would recommend that for money and you are not on income

When the budget is tight some turn to filling and cheap foods such

When the budget is tight some turn value sausages, bacon and noodles.

They may help save the pennies, value sausages, bacon and noodles.

they could also pile on the pounds It is actually quite expensive being

healthy. Do you want to buy fresh food and vegetables? If you were to

stick to ready—made meals that would be cheaper for you? Yes, that is

correct. It is a lot cheaper. How much is a Tesco Value ready meal?

Very cheap. It means I can buy more milk for my daughter. It may be

Very cheap. It means I can buy more people can afford an adequate diet

most people would consider things consequences of food poverty is

extend the damaging to people 's health. The government must take

action to address this problem. health. The government must take

must ensure that all households health. The government must take

access to sufficient income to The future may be uncertain for

access to sufficient income to people on benefits, but for others

like Kirsty there is a way forward. I am hoping to start budgeting with

my money better and to start the meal planning. Offaly that will

prevent me from just snacking. I will then maybe with some weight. ——

Now when it comes to the business of gathering intelligence, there isn't

much that the people in the building behind me don't know about. And

much that the people in the building you can imagine, they like to keep

But this summer GCHQ found itself at the centre of a storm when it was

claimed that the agency had been snooping on the phone calls, e—mails

and Facebook entries of innocent members of the public. Well, this

sort of public notoriety is a long way from the situation 40 years

sort of public notoriety is a long intelligence—gathering operation was

a secret. Steve Knibbs has been intelligence—gathering operation was

meet the man who was in charge back then.? This is Sir Arthur Bonsall.

A former director of GCHQ, he lived question about it now and was ever

This is the first time someone so government's secret code—breaking

I've arranged to meet him at the outskirts of Cheltenham. It's a

I've arranged to meet him at the cry from the secret security service

Sir Arthur was recruited into. permission to venture deeper inside

headquarters than ever before. The opportunity to film inside GCHQ

is extremely rare but the chance to interview on TV a former director

like Sir Arthur Bonsall?it's never Sir Arthur. I am Steve from the

like Sir Arthur Bonsall?it's never How does it feel to be in this

Impressive indeed, unlike in the old A bit different from the days when

Sir Arthur's recruitment into the shadowy world of intelligence began

in 1939. The Army had turned him down on health grounds but Britain

desperately needed linguists. An agent from the government's secret

recognised Sir Arthur's language skills and sent him an unexpected

I had no idea why I'd been invited. There were two men present there,

they weren't introduced and all There were two men present there,

said was, "Was I interested in confidential war work? "Well, as I

was at a loose end, not knowing confidential war work? "Well, as I

indicated I would be hearing from He was given a rail ticket and told

to report to Bletchley Park, where he signed the Official Secrets Act.

Up to this moment I hadn't any idea what the work of BP was and he said,

"You're going to be working on the communications of the German Air

Force," and I did that for several weeks with no real explanation what

What sort of thing? What were the broadcast by the German air force

regarding the landing conditions at the airfields that might be used in

Western Europe. We found it quite easy to solve the map grids and

Western Europe. We found it quite codes. You realised in your section

you are onto something? The first reaction was they were not that

interested, they did not want to land there. This information went

through to our aid intelligence land there. This information went

were glad to receive it. —— area intelligence. This intelligence

became known as special information reports. It was vital against the

fight against the bills. —— the Luftwaffe. We knew that they tended

to rely on is for information. Bletchley Park is most famous for

breaking the Enigma codes. Did that overshadow the work that you were

resources. The Enigma code work because it had priority. We were

always short—handed and never had anything like enough people to do

the work properly without lots of voluntary overtime. But you were

That is correct. The end of the voluntary overtime. But you were

Arthur's career. There were new threats and enemies to keep tabs on.

He relocated to Cheltenham with threats and enemies to keep tabs on.

which remained a denial of service. You came into a service that was not

government did what it could to ignore any reference to it. If they

were asked a question about it, ignore any reference to it. If they

answer was given. Sir Arthur rose through the ranks and in 1973 became

There may be one or two faces that you recognise around here. How did

the appointment come about? You you recognise around here. How did

not apply for a promotion, one hope recommended by my predecessor, Joe

Cooper. It was what I was hoping for for some time. I was very pleased to

get a promotion. When you became a changed. How did you cope with that?

I had more experience than other people. You were dealing with prime

politicians? We did not exist.We were then interrupted by one of

politicians? We did not exist.We current director generals of GCHQ

who joined when Sir Arthur was in charge. The sensitive nature of

who joined when Sir Arthur was in work meant he did not want to be

readily identified. It is quite interesting today when we struggle

with the pace of developments and operational work, yet, what you

with the pace of developments and clear to all of us at the time was

50 or 60 years ago it was exactly the same. A different version of the

same thing. Sir Arthur spent his life working for an organisation

which to the outside world did not confidential by the Official Secrets

To finally be able to talk about it, how did that feel? Up until then I

lay had not said anything about how did that feel? Up until then I

works to any of my family members. I had a way of answering that. But

grandchildren now have authorities who ask what I was doing, and I

grandchildren now have authorities had to begin to remember what I

grandchildren now have authorities been doing. That was a big change.

He has been retired for over 30 years but these four letters still

have a powerful effect. I still years but these four letters still

a shot when I say GCHQ on the front secrecy has been lifted a little.

The glossy recruitment drives have replaced mysterious invitations

The glossy recruitment drives have opportunity to glimpse into the

shadows. No doubt more of come to light later but for now Sir Arthur

In our final film tonight, we're off to the home of cricket, Lord's.

Yesterday, it played host to the final of the National Village Cup

featuring the tiny village team final of the National Village Cup

It has been a great year for English cricket with victory over Australia

to keep the Ashes for the third cricket with victory over Australia

in a row. But the England first cricket with victory over Australia

are not the only ones enjoying success. Meets the Rockhampton Rams,

giving up the biggest match of their lives, the Village Cup final at

The furthest we got before was the last 64 so we are in uncharted

Village teams entered a knockout competition and now there are just

too left. And this usually quiet Gloucestershire village, excitement

As he prepares for the training session, the captain has more to

It is something that unfortunately occupies the hours between 9am and

James feels pretty fortunate to occupies the hours between 9am and

The usual captain decided she didn't want the job on Sundays so I got

With less than ten days to go, the pressure is on and they are making

sure that the final 11 are working It has been a long road. It has

indeed. We want to win this game, don't we? Just replicate what you

have been doing. ' we will just don't we? Just replicate what you

working through what we have been In it sounds bad but I don't have

any major concerns. Hopefully the fact that they are at Lord's won't

get into people 's head too much and it will just be another game of

Rockhampton team is playing so well. developing its your team. A policy

which is now paying dividends. We started up a youth section and as

that grew and the players mature at we have gone up through the leagues.

You know the rest. This year we we have gone up through the leagues.

11 of the 14 members are local boys. There's two Tylers, two of my boys.

It is quite amazing. Quite amazing how many of them have come from

It is quite amazing. Quite amazing youth setup and shows the importance

of maintaining that setup. The two Tylers are both very good batsmen

and we hope they are going to do Even with such a strong team, James

It is now a national competition and if you when it you are recognised as

Hopefully we will do the village For John, there is still lots to

Good morning. How are you both? We're getting to Lord Snowdon.

organising coaches to get the local fans to the game. We got about

organising coaches to get the local As well as selling tickets, they

have their work cut out keeping As well as selling tickets, they

It takes some believing, doesn't For Charlie, who plays regularly for

the team, the final this Sunday For Charlie, who plays regularly for

Charles is a spinner and we have a number of spinners. I'm afraid we

can only play one or two and you Of course everybody wanted to be on

that pitch at only 11 people can play so I am just happy that the

club is the and I will be part of it as well. I will be cheering them on

It is Saturday morning and the Rams are on their way to London for the

You all ready to go and when? Yes! They are in high spirits and full

It feels pretty surreal. It is a special place and it is all starting

There is a Re/Max ceremony to go through then Rockhampton are sent

out after losing the toss —— eight As you can see, the number of people

we have here following the team As you can see, the number of people

The batting starts well with Matt reaching 50. But after James is

dismissed for 57, the innings ends on a slightly lower total than

Wickets are falling fast and it looks like Rockhampton might clinch

We could have done with another looks like Rockhampton might clinch

runs but it will be a tight game. With just eight balls to go, the

opposition reach 193 and it is all over. In nail—biting lay close final

That's cricket for you. We gave over. In nail—biting lay close final

really good go. Disappointed. What a Cheers. We thought we were pretty

close to going home and winning Cheers. We thought we were pretty

The lads are gutted and it will Cheers. We thought we were pretty

unfortunately on the day we were Even without the win, it has been an

amazing achievement for the brands and their fans. A day to remember

Bad luck to Rockhampton for just missing out but well done for making

the final. That's just about it missing out but well done for making

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