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Hello from Somerset, where we're investigating lyme disease.

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Treatment should be simple, but we've discovered people travelling

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to America for alternatives that are expensive. These are my medications

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I take on a daily basis. And potentially fatal. Once you've

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treated the infection for long enough to eradicate the organise any

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more, additionalantibiotic will not help. They will encourage the growth

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of other infection was resistance will be you. You may develop a super

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infection. How serious? Death. Also tonight, Miranda turns her hand

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to cider making, using apples from her own garden.

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First tonight, a disease you can catch walking right here in the his,

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tiny ticks carry lyme disease. While it is treatable, a number of

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sufferers are angry about the way they're being looked after. Instead

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they're travelling to America for expensive treatment that can be

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dangerous, even potentially fatal. Our health correspondent imagine ewe

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Hill has the story. `` Matthew Hill has the story.

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In places like this, lyme disease is on the increase, spread by ticks.

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For sufferers, it's a terrible and debilitating illness. My vision is

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blurry. I've always got a low`grade headache I don't feel safe in my own

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body. There's no vaccine. Testing is complicate and not an exact science.

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We have to accept there is no perfect test for lyme disease. My

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own blood looked at by the country's leading expert to find out what

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patients are going through with surprising results.

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To a normal patient, getting that result, would they not think, I ve

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got lyme disease? I think they might well. Some tests are convincing

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people to travel here to America for expensive and potentially dangerous

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treatment. So, I've been investigating whether the doctors

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divided by the Atlantic can ever reach a compromise.

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How is it good for patients not knowing who to believe? It's

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terrible for patients. They're caught in the middle. It's a sad

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situation. We don't know what to think. We're just caught in the

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middle of this war, above our heads. We're the victims of this.

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The quantocks, an area of outstanding national beauty. Walkers

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can get close to wildlife. Not everything here in friendly. It s a

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significant place for people to enjoy the countryside.

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Groups need to be made aware when they're in this environment, they're

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in tick country, in a sense. The tick to beings. Exactly. `` tick

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tocks. Exactly. Tim Russelluals a ranger here for years. `` Tim

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Russell was a ranger here for years. Presumably, if you just brush it

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like that, is that how you get them? Yeah, yeah. For me, for example now,

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just walking past like that, brush onto your trousers. One of the

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things we suggest is to wear light coloured clothing. Ticks are

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generally quite dark coloured. If you have light`coloured clothing you

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can see a tick on you and British it off. Best not to wear shorts, then?

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Some of the advice we give in this open countryside is not to walk

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around in shorts and sandals, wear boots, leggings if possible and long

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trousers. Keep your arms covered. A very simple suggestion for people is

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stick on the paths. Ticks live off the blood of wild animals, but if

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they atoo much to `` to human, the bacteria causes lime zeez, which

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begins with a rash and flu`like symptoms and can lead to newer

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logical problems. The estimated number of lyme disease cases in

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England is between 2,000 and 3, 00 a year according to public health

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England, lower than in the US. Although some campaigners here

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believe the real figure is much higher. I've come to meet one

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campaigner in Dorset. She says they're not being taken seriously.

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And that testing, treatment and knowledge of lyme here is not as

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good as it should be. Hi. Hi, nice to meet you. Natasha. Come o in

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Natasha Metcalf knows all about this. She first became ill when she

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was a teenager. When I was 16 years old, I experienced night sweats and

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terrible concentration, suddenly couldn't concentrate at school.

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Very, very swollen glands. But it was never picked up then, sadly I

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managed to recover myself just by being in bed a lot. The second time

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I was 19. Same thing happened again. I couldn't concentrate almost

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overnight. Everything became very fuzzy. Then I managed to spend about

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nine months in bed and recovered myself again, somehow. 21, it

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happened again. The last time was 24. In 2008, that was. I haven't

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bounced back since. Extremely ill. She's had days when she hasn't

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managed to get out of bed. It's been very worrying. Natasha's family have

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taken her to more than 40 doctors and spent ?75,000 trying to solve

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the problem. They now believe they have a solution ` long`term

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antibiotics. These are my medications I take on a daily basis.

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Here are the two anti`buy yot ickds I'm take `` two antibiotics I'm

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taking at the moment. Along with them I'm taking a high quality

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pro`biotic, which is important to protect the gut with long`term aebz

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therapy. `` antibiotics therapy For my doctor in America so far we

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totalled it for 11,000, for one visit and phone consultations toer a

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year. `` for a year. Many in her group, she feelles she has no ``

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feels she has no choice. She says her long`term illness needs long

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hover term antibiotics. `` long`term antibiotics. I've done the ME route

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and the psychiatric route. I'm still sick. There's a big divide between

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those who can afford to go abroad and those who can't. Natasha went

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back to the US for more treatment. We'll catch up with her later. I

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wanted to find out what the experts here think, are there any down

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sides? I've come to see the top doctor in the country in charge of

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fighting lyme disease. That's doctor Tim Brooks. He's recently taken over

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responsibility for lyme. The rule here ` treat early with a short

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course of antibiotics. Some people may benefit from a second course, he

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says. But long`term use can be dangerous. Once you've treated the

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infection for long enough to eradicate the organism, any

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additional antibiotics will not make a difference. What they will do is

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encourage the growth of other infections resistant to the

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antibiotics within you. You might, for example, develop a funningal

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infection, what we call a superinfection, that can be

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extremely serious in some cases Serious? There are reported deaths

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for people who have been given long`term treatment with intravenous

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antibiotics. That's related to lyme disease? That was treatment for lyme

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disease. I've come to the US to find out if

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British patients here should be worried. Natasha put me in touch

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with a doctor in San Francisco, her own declined to be interviewed. Hi.

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Nice to meet you. Let's go into the consultation room. Raphael Stricker

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says he's treated more than 2,5 0 people for lyme disease. So any

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treatment can be harmful. So there's a risk`benefit ratio. You have to

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weigh the risk of this type of treatment versus the benefit for

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people who have chronic, debilitating disease. What evidence

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is there that long`term antibiotics work? The studies that have been

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done on long`term antibiotics are limited. There is at least one study

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and in fact, there are others, that show for newer logic lyme disease,

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it may take between six and 12 months of intravenous therapy to get

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those patients better. Definitely longer than what's recommended by

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the infectious disease experts. Can you assign me the author of that?

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You're talking to him. Natasha was also in California for treatment. We

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asked her to film for us. Ironically we've just driven by a huge bill

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board saying "protect yourself from ticks". A big picture of a tick on

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it. So clearly, they are doing their bit here to raise awareness.

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Patients like Natasha say they're benefitting from the treatment

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doctors, like Raphael Stricker, are prescribing. One thing that's been

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almost strange for me, but also a relief, is being surrounded by

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people in the I V Room in the clinic who are going through exactly the

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same thing and who also had such a tough time being diagnosed. It's

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taken them years and years to get the help that they need as well

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It's been such a relief being able to talk to them about their journey

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and their stories. Natasha may feel it's working for her here. But with

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the warnings I'd heard I decided to take a look at the American tests

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being paid for by hundreds of British patients. So, who should

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patients like Natasha believe? We've decided to carry out our own little

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experiment to test the tests vment `` tests. Back in the UK, two

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colleagues and I had blood taken and sent to the lab. Also to a private

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lab in the US. The same lab Natasha used. As far as we know, none of us

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have ever had lyme disease. What we're expecting is that they should

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all come back the same. From both the NHS and the American lab.

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Testing is based on finding antibodies to the lyme bacteria

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It's only part of the diagnostic picture, but it's crucial. This

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project concluded in January this year. At a conference in London last

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year `` last year on lyme disease, one campaign explained why. All the

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tests vary. I think we all have to accept that there is no perfect test

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for lyme disease. Still the position stands that people can go to a

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private laboratory overseas and get a test. That test might not be

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specific to lyme disease. And the poor patient then has an official

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looking piece of paper that says they have lyme disease and the

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doctor back in the UK doesn't know what to do with it. Natasha was also

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at the conference. So, a chance to catch up after her four`and`a`half

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weeks of antibiotics in the states. Still got a long way to goment I

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felt really `` go. I felt really good having IV treatment. But I

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can't stay there forever, so had to come home. But I'm still under the

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care of the doctor. Natasha has since returned to the US for more

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treatment. This is where it all happens for the test? It is. Our

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test results are in. From the three of us tested one of us was given the

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all clear by the American lab and porton. If we look at this one, this

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is James and it's completely negative. My producer also came back

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negative in the UK. This is Dickens, if you look at it here, there's a

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very faint band there and it is less dark than that control band there.

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It's present but negative. But this came back as positive from the

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American lab, which has a lower testing threshold. They do stress

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results must be looked at alongside symptoms and history. Any British

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patient seeing that result from Igenex what would you imagine they

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would do as a result of seeing a positive? I think the problem with

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the way it's presented is that it looks like it's positive and it s

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stated as being a real positive Our difficulty in any test of this sort

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is setting what we call a cut off, the difference between a nonspecific

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random reaction, the background noise, and the true response. We

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think that actually, there isn't an absolute right or wrong in any of

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these things. They all have to be taken into context of the patient's

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symptoms. Me, the test was negative from Porton. There is nothing at all

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to see. But according to Igenex I should also see a doctor as I could

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have lyme disease. They have given you a positive to an antigen called

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P 31, which we don't measure in the UK. Another protein and a strong

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positive to one called P41 here which has a problem in the sense

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that around half of normal people will have antibodies to that whether

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or not they've ever seen lyme disease. So it's meaningless really?

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So, it's unhelpful, rather than meaningless. Igenex told us there is

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no perfect test but the P41 is useful in showing up long`term lyme

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disease. They tell patients my type of result would need more tests No

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wonder then that this is confusing and difficult for worried patients.

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They may feel let down in the UK, but is their faith in America

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misplaced? Aren't you offering a lot of these patients false hope on

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little evidence of it actually working? They should be coming up

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with better treatment for these patients who are sick and who can't

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get treated because of what they're doing. I would say that having seen

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literally thousands of patients now with lyme disease, who get better,

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when you treat them, that I would err on the side of treating. I don't

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think it's false hope to make patients better. That's what we as

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physicians try to do. Lyme disease still divides medical opinion. But

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Igenex and Porton are talking about sharing data. Dr Brooks want

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difintive research into the illness. I don't think we can go on with a

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system where different laboratories have different results and cause

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confusion to patients, different management try tiara for `` criteria

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for patients and some patients being treated inappropriately and others

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missed. New guidelines are on their way too, which some feel are long

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overdue. Where we would agree there's a

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deficiency is that the guidance is not necessarily friendly to the

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broader community and it's not necessarily all in one place, that

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makes it very easy to put together a set of pathways which a general

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practitioner faced with a patient for the first time can follow to

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ensure nothing is missed. The proof, of course, will be when patients

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like Natasha start trusting the system again. I feel like we get

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told we're these crazy activists and we don't know what to think. We re

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caught in the middle of this war, effectively, above our heads and

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we're actually the victims of this. Next tonight, what if you bought a

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house and discovered in the garden one of the country's most important

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collections of apple trees? Well, naturally you'd get on with making

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some cider. That's what Miranda did. After 100 years of studying and

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advancing the science of cider making, the Long Ashton cider

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institute closed its doors in 2 03. The closure was a sad loss, but when

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my husband Nick and I bought our house on part of the old site, we

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were offered the chance to keep a part of the cider`making tradition

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alive. We were given these cider apple trees when we moved in. They

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were going to be grubbed up and turned into a housing estate. We

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were given these trees, planted them in the garden and all of them

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survived. This is a tradition that we want to keep going every year.

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It's late October, which can only mean one thing: Harvest time. Push,

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push! Our annual cider apple picking party is about to get started. We

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have the man, woman and child power, I've just got my fingers crossed

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that the rain holds offment `` off. That's good. Yeah. There's plenty of

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fallen fruit to be collected first. But the real fun starts as Nick

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organises the tree shaking. We'll get some steps up and wriggle them

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off the tree. Basically what we do is sit everybody under the tree and

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shake the trees. All the apples come down. The kids love it because it

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rains apples. Very exciting. They're going to do this one now. One, two,

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three ` go! Many hands make light work.

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Commercially they have tree shakers, but we use a bit of man power. It

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works brilliantly. It really is great fun for the kids. Look at the

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colour of those apples. They're fabulous. Well done. Do you want to

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see my naughty apple? It looks like a bum.

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Look. The picking party is going well and

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even the arrival of the threatened rain hasn't dammened spirits. The

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children don't really `` dampened the spirits. The children don't

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really care they're getting wet In fact, my daughter is up the tree

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getting the very last apples. Shake her out of the tree! But perhaps not

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everyone is enjoying it. When are we going in? When we've

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shaken all the trees. With the rain pouring down, we wrap

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up the party and it's just us left to gather the final bounty. Watch

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out. One, two, three... Seriously heavy. Normally we take them to Guy

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who presses them. This year there's an apple fair in the village. We're

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taking them there to press them instead. It's going to be great OK.

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Ready? Let's go! The village of Long Ashton with the

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cider apple goes back a long way. Today, they're celebrating it in all

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its glory. # You know I love you

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# I always will # My mind's made up

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# By the way that I feel... # The research station was based here

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for 100 years and was responsible for the creation of many of today's

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cider apple varieties. Tanned was one of the station's former

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employees that helped us save the last trees from the site. Thanks so

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much for making that initial introduction, for us with the cider.

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If we hadn't talked to you, we would never have got connected with it. It

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was just fortunate that you were there at the right time. The trees

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would have been lost because of the redevelopment. Feels really good to

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put cider back onto that site as well. Oh, yeah. It was all

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destroyed. So the trees were saved from the mulcher. But their apples

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are destined for the chop. Our harvest is finally shredded. ``

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finely shredded. Bingo. Do I need to fill it up? Then transferred into

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the hydropress where the juice is squeezed out. It's coming out now.

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It's all done using only water pressure from the tap. We had how

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many kilos of apples? About 15 kilos of apples and we've got 1. 5 to two

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gallons, nearly ten litres of juice. That's really good. And quickly

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Very quickly. We have plenty more sacks to go as well. So, now we ve

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got the raw material, a week later, Nick and I are back at home, ready

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to work some cider magic. We've got the juice that we pressed

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the other day down at the apple festival. This is where I hand over

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to my husband, Nick, because he does the chemistry. Set up on the kitchen

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table. What do we need to do? Basically, the juice is full of

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natural sugar. We put just juice into the demijons over there. We let

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the sugar ferment into alcohol. Carbon dioxide comes out through the

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air trap at the top. We're left a few months later w, cider. `` with,

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cider. The juice will need at least three months to ferment. Last year's

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batch is ready for the next step in the process. This one is secondary

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fermentation. We've got, we're coming to the end of the primary

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fermentation. So we're just about ready to put that into bottles now.

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Sugar in this one? Sugar in that one. OK. Bit more. There's just one

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final, crucial step needed if you want a sparkling cider. Why would

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you add more sugar? The fermentation is nearly finished and we just need

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to feed the yeast that little bit more to allow it to breathe some

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carbon dioxide into the bottle to give it the fizz and sparkle. OK,

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simple as putting one of these in here. Lid goes on. That's the beauty

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about cider is the simplicity. All we've got in that bottle is apple

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juice, fermented with natural yeast. We've put a tiny tiny bit of sugar

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`` a tiny bit of shug for athe final fizz `` sugar for the final fizz. We

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could never drink all we produce. But now comes the bit that this has

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all been building up to. Every year in late January, we hold a

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wassailing party. It's a traditional celebration to bless the apple trees

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and ward off evil spirits and it's all about to kick off. It's January.

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It's the beginning of the cider year, where we are just about to

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bless the cider apple trees an drink some of last year's cider. We've got

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about 150 people coming this evening. We have a massive bonfire

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outside. Hopefully, we will be out there, round the bonfire, wassailing

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the trees and celebrating the cider. The sausages are on. And the guests

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are getting stuck into the cider, so it's time to get this all going

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Cheers. In Hello everybody. Welcome. This is our fifth annual wassail.

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Thank you very much for coming. You can drink as much cider as you

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possibly can. In a moment, we are going out to the fire and process

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around the trees. The idea, especially from the children, so we

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make a load of noise, because we have evil spirits to chase away from

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the trees. Armed with anything that will make a noise, the whole party

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heads into the orchard, where the fire is going strong. And the music

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is hotting up. Now, it's time to make some real noise.

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MUSIC: Here we go round the mulberry bush As much noise as possible, go!

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If the racket we're making is anything to go by, I'm sure we're

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due another bumper crop this year. When we bought this house, we had no

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idea about the history of the cider that went along with it. We planted

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this orchard and now, we are getting together with the local community

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and celebrating something as simple and pleasurable as a cider apple.

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It's a magical thing. I think these customs are great to keep going in

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our busy lives, modern lives, we don't have a lot of this. These

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moments are really special. Wassail! Wassail! Wassail!

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APPLAUSE Well, that's just about all we have

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time for tonight. Don't forget, keep in touch with us on Twitter. Or send

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us an e`mail@insideoutwest at bbc.co.uk. From all of us here in

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Somerset, thanks for watching, good night.

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Next week the house builders and councils ripping up their legal

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commitments to build affordable homes in the West.

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She really needs to be in her own bedroom. But we just make do with

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what we have got. Jude Law has given evidence at the

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phone hacking trial. The court heard a family member had sold stories

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about him. A former reporter said he discussed intercepting phone calls

:29:23.:29:27.

between two newspapers. Anger over flooding, a government minister has

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been heckled by residents in Somerset.

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He promised an action plan. Dave Lee Travis has told the court

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he is not a sexual predator. He said he has a cuddly nature towards women

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and denies indecent assault charges. Bill Roach has been cleared of one

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offence. His defence should start tomorrow.

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At the Grammy towards last night, Daft

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