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Hello from Gloucester, where we are taking an extraordinary

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Also tonight, why suicide is the biggest killer of young men.

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Doctor Phil Hammond tells his own highly personal story.

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I was just seven years old when my dad, a hugely popular

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chemistry lecturer in Australia, took his life, leaving a two word

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Junior Saunders asks if the Old Vic is worth it.

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I'm Alastair McKee, and this is Inside Out West.

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First tonight, it might surprise you that the biggest killer of men

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under the age of 45 isn't heart disease

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As part of the BBC's mental health season,

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which starts today, doctor Phil Hammond examines the growing

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incidence of male suicide - something that has deeply touched

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The notion of men opening up about their emotional and mental

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well-being has always carried a stigma, and the idea of asking

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for help or support is often misconstrued by men

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The charity Calm, the Campaign Against Living Miserably,

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recently published research that found that in 2014,

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In my family, three men have taken their lives -

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my great grandfather, my great uncle, and

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I was just seven years old when my dad, a hugely popular

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chemistry lecturer in Australia, took his life, leaving a two word

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I remember him as happy and loving, but he was also very

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hard-working, self-critical and conscientious,

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and like many men, he struggled to ask for help

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But when he was depressed, he was unable to love himself.

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It's taken probably about four years, but yeah,

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Life can be cruel and stressful for all

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of us, but why are men more at risk of death by suicide?

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The second time Dean decided to end his own life

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was a rational, calculated choice.

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Before I attempted it, I registered all my organs,

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And at that time, I consider that to be a better use of myself

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All I was was a burden to the people that I cared about,

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and it would have just been better if I had

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So in your mind, you were saying, my body is worth more if I die

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and donate my organs than it is if I remain living.

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What actually pushed you back from the brink?

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I just had a moment of realisation that if I had gone

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through with it, it would have actually been far worse

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As painful as it was for me at the time, it was something I knew

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I had to not do and try again to get proper treatment

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Talk us through what was happening in your life then.

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I felt very powerless and isolated, and no matter how many times someone

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tells you, it does stop eventually, you don't believe it.

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It gets to a point where you just think, I don't

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want to wake up again tomorrow and feel like that.

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And having made the decision to carry on, Dean needed

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to find a job - not easy for someone with no self-worth,

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and made even more difficult by a worldwide

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When you feel worthless and you spend...

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And you feel useless and you feel like you don't

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matter, and then you spend a week filling out a hundred job

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applications for jobs that you don't really want to do,

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it makes you feel really dispirited

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And researchers at the University of Bristol have recently published

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a study which suggests the rising number of male suicides is linked

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Why do you think that suicide attempts

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amongst men have gone up during the recession?

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Austerity measures had a massive effect on their lives,

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and also to do with not being able to

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find a job, and that could be whether or not you had left school

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at 16, or whether you had gone through the system and come out

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at the other end with a good degree, but you're still in huge competition

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with everybody else who still had a degree, and now with an enormous

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And some people felt that it just wasn't

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worth it, to the point that they wanted to self harm.

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Did men find it harder to talk to you during

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I think there is very much a sense of self reliance,

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men feeling that it wasn't something that they ought to talk about.

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And quite often, in comparison to the other group that I spoke

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to that hadn't self harmed but were struggling with money,

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they didn't seem to have the same level

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So when I say network, I mean friends, family,

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Suicide is the biggest killer of men between

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But local authority spending doesn't reflect this.

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According to the charity Mind, ?160 million is spent

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annually to encourage people to stop smoking,

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?671 million on sexual health programmes, but only ?40

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Around 3000 self harming patients turn up

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at Bristol's two main hospitals every year.

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And on the front line at the BRI is psychiatrist

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Home life is very stressful, not coping with daily

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life, wants help but does not regret overdose.

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Lucy's day starts with a meeting in which the individual patients

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She is given the case of a man in his 30s who was brought

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to the hospital in an ambulance earlier that morning,

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So you cut yourself with a knife eight months

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ago, didn't go to hospital, and then one and a half months ago

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you were here - was that another cutting?

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We would worry that there are some mental health problems

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He wasn't willing to appear on camera, but Lucy explains

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He hasn't seen his GP, and we do know that men don't go

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and speak to their doctor when they are feeling depressed.

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Some of them might talk to family members -

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often they won't talk to anyone, and they'll

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manage it through drinking more heavily or smoking or engaging

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Statistics show that in Bristol in 2013, five times as many men

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under the age of 35 took their own lives than women.

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And the total number, 18, was way above the national average.

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So it is perhaps no surprise that the BRI is that the forefront

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they are about to introduce a navigator role, which

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works like a handholding service to ensure that people make use

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of the support available rather than ignore it.

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So that would be to try and pick up people as they get

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discharged from hospital, having attempted suicide,

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and help them towards the sort of support that they would actually

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need, like the free debt advice centres or Citizens

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Advice bureau, or perhaps they need mental health help,

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So what support is out there for men who feel depressed but don't

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want to follow traditional routes of talking

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Daniel Edmund is a young man whose approach is to question

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the traditional notion of masculinity, a factor

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which contributed to his own depression.

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Daniel is hosting one of his Milk For Tea sessions

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So tell us a little bit about yourself,

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I was born here in Bristol and raised just outside

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of Washington DC, where my mother was from.

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So if you think about your own struggles

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growing up, did you not have that sort of emotional ballast of friends

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It was one of those things where, you know, I didn't have very many

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And I just didn't have that community.

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I didn't have those people who said, you know,

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And no real male figures, which I think

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I think is really important for men to support

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I have a great father who did the best he could,

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but I think on a personal level, from a peer

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point of view, there were very few people I could turn

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to about the issues I was dealing with.

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And with Milk For Tea, one of the things we aim to do

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is just bring men together to help facilitate that happening

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I think a lot of the issues like depression, anxiety,

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even suicidal thoughts, can be stopped before even

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going to any type of counselling or clinical type

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I can understand how you managed to get men together in a bar,

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to drink or whatever, but women need to understand how

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men's minds work as well, don't they?

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Our events are always open to men and women.

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I think it is really important for women to join

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the conversation on men's mental health, and I think it also helps

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the conversation on men's mental health.

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It is indiscriminate, and it transcends social classes.

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Mental well-being is a complex issue.

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We all need self compassion - to love,

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And we all need to build resilience for when we hit the rocks

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of loneliness, debt or emotional trauma.

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We need research to guide us to what keeps us

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mentally healthy, and we need the funding to pay for it.

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And for men especially, we need to keep talking

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and ask for help when we are struggling to cope.

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For details of organisations which offer advice and support

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on mental health, go online or call the BBC action line to hear

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They say we are all just one paycheque away from the street,

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and for those who have fallen on hard times,

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a room at a B might be the only alternative

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And although it is just supposed to be for emergencies,

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we have discovered people living like this long-term.

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Rachel Stonehouse has been to one familiar sounding B

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This is the Dorchester on London's Park Lane,

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boasting views of Hyde Park and Mayfair.

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And this is the other Dorchester, Gloucester's Denmark Road,

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with views looking out to its own courtyard garden.

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A room at the famous 5-star hotel will set you back between ?500

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and ?4,000 per night, whereas a stay at the B

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in Gloucester will cost around ?20 a night.

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Breakfast is extra at London's swanky Dorchester,

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But in Gloucester, a full fry-up is included.

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You can even have it delivered to your room.

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When we checked, London's Dorchester had a third of its rooms available,

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This is where we do the breakfast every morning.

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This is Lynn, who is the manager of the 20 privately privately run

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bed-and-breakfast for vulnerable people who have hit rock bottom

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and would otherwise be sleeping on the streets.

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So how many people are you doing breakfast for today?

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We just keep cooking it until they you know, sort of stop.

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It's just one of the emergency accommodation options

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Requests for rooms come in from councils, the NHS,

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probation service, and even the police.

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Lynn has been the manager here for 12 years, and in that time,

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How did you start working here, and did you know what to expect?

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No, I just thought it was an ordinary housekeeper's

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And he said, you've got the job, I don't think nobody else

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The first time I started, on my first day, I thought,

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It's challenging, it's tiring, but I do enjoy it.

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And I feel somebody needs to help them, because they do need the help,

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One of the newest residents is Stephen.

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He is 60, and worked all his life in nursing -

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He has been here for a couple of weeks.

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So how did he end up at the Dorchester?

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I lost my home due to the fact I could no longer keep up

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The reason for that being is my wife of some considerable time sadly

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It just left me devastated, and then I could no longer

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afford the rent on my own, and so I went into arrears

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and they decided that they couldn't wait for me to repay the debt.

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I did have a plan to pay a little off on top of my regular

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rent on a regular basis, but they wouldn't accept

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To add to his woes, Stephen is recovering from cancer,

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which means he spends a lot of the day in bed

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He relies on the goodwill of Lynn and the other residents to give him

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I was a bit too enthusiastic with the toast.

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The people here, they all sort of muck in and look

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Yeah, and if one hasn't got food and one has got some,

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When Stephen moved in, I think Michael

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Did he give you a sandwich?

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But we are trying to get him to see if he can get some Meals on Wheels,

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so you'd get a lot of food, didn't we, Stephen?

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Thought that would be a better option than me trying to cook.

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Well, I think so, because yeah, you've only got the microwave.

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If we can get Meals on Wheels for you delivered, at least

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you got your breakfast and you'll get the main meal at night.

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Cindy has resorted to staying at the Dorchester on and off

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She first came here when she left prison, and most recently ended up

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here after the spare room subsidy was introduced and

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She had to leave her home, and couldn't find anywhere that

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I was made homeless, and one of the lads who lived here told Lynne, and

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got a message back to me saying to come up. Lynne knew I had a dog, but

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she didn't know how big it was. A bit of a shock. Yeah. Somebody said

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the other day, you have got to put what you need before her dog. I can

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understand that, you shouldn't give your wife up for -- your life up for

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a dog, but at the same time he has been my best mate. He has been

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through boards, what you couldn't even believe. Lynne's right-hand man

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at the Dorchester is Michael, who has lived here for a couple of years

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after his life took a downward spiral. He volunteers for cooking,

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washing up and laundry. The bedding is all done. Tell me how you

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actually came to be here. I went abroad to

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actually came to be here. I went died. I came back with nothing. And

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that was it. And died. I came back with nothing. And

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you intend to stay? I have got nowhere else to go. Wherever Lynne

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goes, I follow. Tanya is in her 30s and has been at the Dorchester for

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about a year. She came here after the relationship broke down. You do

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it the same way I do. You turn it. It is just quicker. What does the

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Dorchester mean to you? A heck of a lot. It has been like home. Lynn has

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been like a second mum. She has a mothering instinct. She is like a

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mothering hen, she is so good. The accommodation is basic. The

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Dorchester is only meant to be a short-term solution, but often

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people struggle to read. The chronic housing shortage across the West

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makes moving on more difficult. And even when they do checkout, Lynne is

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still on hand to offer support. -- often people struggle to leave. Paul

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used to be in the forces, but after he left and his marriage broke down,

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he became homeless. He has stayed at the Dorchester five times and

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checked out last year. But he still speaks to win almost every day. Why

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have Lynne been such a support to you? I don't really talk to family

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about my depression and that. Lynne helped me and picked me in the right

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direction. And what does the Dorchester mean to you? It means the

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world to me. It's not the Ritz, but it is a place to live, and every

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would time I lived here, I lived here. Sometimes you have got to move

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on, and that's what I did. But as soon as one person leaves, the

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spaces quickly filled. No rooms soon as one person leaves, the

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Can you try tomorrow? -- fully booked at the moment. No vacancies

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at all, and. Just ring every morning, just see how it goes. At

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the moment and nothing, sorry. How many times will you get a phone call

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like that in an average day? Quite a lot. You have been here this morning

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and I think that is about the fourth one. In the week we filmed at the

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Dorchester, Lynne had to turn away more than 40 people. Councils across

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the West have told us an emergency accommodation is at a premium

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because of the housing shortage. It means it is becoming increasingly

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difficult to find people somewhere permanent to live.

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To be or not to be, that is the question we are asking tonight of

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the Bristol Old Vic, celebrating its birthday. And we are all paying for

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the theatre out of our taxes whether we like it or not. So is it worth

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it? We asked Junior Saunders, who once toured the boards himself, to

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find out. The Bristol Old Vic. 250 years old.

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Seven and a half million people have come to see shows here over its

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lifetime. The latest, Jane Eyre, has been drawing in the crowds with an

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average gate price of about ?20. But that isn't everybody's idea of a

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good night out. For the same price you could be at the Rovers. Or

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having a great day at the zoo. Or just oddly bouncing around for a

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couple of hours. The tour costs 2.6 million a year to run, with over a

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quarter of ?1 million coming from our council tax. That is only about

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?1 50 for every taxpayer, but it all adds up to about a third of the

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city's Hall arts budget. I feel like I have a stake in this place, but

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the question is, what have the Old Vic really done for us? Like many

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Bristolians, I don't come here very often at all. It feels like theatres

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just for the arty, rich elites. But if that is the case, how has it

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survived for all this time? The history of this theatre is really at

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250 year love affair between this building and the city of Bristol,

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which like any love affair that goes on for 250 years... That is a

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long-time! Has had some big rows, some following is out, stand-offs

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and everything. But essentially be the age has survived because time

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and again when it has got into trouble, the city has said, we love

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this feature. In 2007 there were apparently 600 people, as many as

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you could get in here, brand in for a meeting when there was a danger

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the future would collapse. People from Bristol scene, no, it must not

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happen. -- in danger the feature would collapse. It is a wonderful

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theatre. This wonderful jewel of an auditorium. I love this building.

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The most beautiful theatre to play. OK, so it is a great building. But

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it takes more than bombs on seats to keep the doors open. We are

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subsidised, and our biggest subsidy comes from the arts Council

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nationally. We also get some money from the city. More than half of our

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money we raised by selling tickets. The hippodrome, for example, very

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successful commercial theatre in Bristol, survives by inviting

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entering commercial work. We make the work here, which is a fantastic

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privilege for us. We spent our money, which is your money as a

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taxpayer, on two things. The first is, it allows us to experiment a

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little bit in the work, so we are not making purely commercial work.

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We are allowed to take risks, and that allows new kinds of data to

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develop. It allows really interesting work to happen. It also

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allows us to give real opportunity to artists in Bristol. The second

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thing which is very important is that as a subsidised theatre, we

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have a responsibility which we take very seriously to offer an

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invitation to everyone from every part of the city to engage in our

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programme. As well as that, and very importantly, it means our ticket

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prices are much lower than it would be if we were a commercial theatre.

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The Old Vic is committed to taking their brand of theatre to people and

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places that do not normally have access to the arts. This reach work

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has even ventured into perhaps the last place you would expect theatre

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to thrive. Jo spent 11 months at Ashfield Young offenders Institute.

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I would go out and see friends, just hang out on the estate, the board.

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Sometimes we would want money to just buy clothes and stuff like

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that, but how are we going to get money? Just doing petty crimes and

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all sorts of stupid mess. His time Hynde bars was made bearable --

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behind bars was made bearable by the drama outreach. At school drama was

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the main subject I loved and I gave it to my all. But the streets, being

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on the estate would take out most of my life. If the average had not come

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in and made me realise I loved it so much, then I don't know what would

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have happened. The outreach team also visit six schools across the

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city. Today they are working with peoples on their next show. It is a

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huge fun, but is it the best use of our taxes? This kind of work is

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absolutely essential. At this age, getting in this early to teach

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children ways of expressing themselves, being confident, being

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able to walk into a room and master the room. It makes you feel a bit

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special because of doing acting. Being someone else. I like acting a

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lot. I was shy to go on stage before, but I'm not. You, shy? No

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chance! I didn't have that sort of thing growing up. I always thought

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theatre was just not for the likes of me. But then I got a part in a

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player who weren't looking for a bargain which was set in Bristol and

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performed right here. It was a risk for the Old Vic that the two con me,

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because I had never done conventional theatre. -- that they

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took on me. It was about that sense of purpose, being able to book ahead

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and say, there are actually things that I could do.

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That is the kind of restating the Old Vic does. The team discovers and

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supports new artist that would otherwise struggle to be heard. I

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don't believe in elitism of art. I know, it makes me laugh when I say

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things like that. I believe we are all committed at our hearts... This

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sounds a little woolly, but I do, and I think that this place and the

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people who work here are really committed to keeping the doors open,

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having people come in, being able to sit and listen to people. And also

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when there is a fascinating story beautifully told, they come and do

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something with it here and share it with the wider city. We really

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contribute to the economy financially as well. People coming

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to the theatre needs some to drink, hotel to stay in. It bleeds out, so

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I think it is an investment. In many ways the Old Vic is a great

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success. People pay as little as ?7 50 to see shows. It is committed to

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making the deed to appeal to everyone. Later this year, they are

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starting a ?12.5 million refurbishment to make the most of

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the building and its unique history. But it will always need to be

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subsidised. This theatre is a precious thing,

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cherished nationally, internationally, but it is really

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for the people of Bristol. We are doing whatever we can to open that

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invitation out so that people can doing whatever we can to open that

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join. So with hard work, dedication and a few more of these, the Bristol

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Old Vic may be around for the next 250 years.

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That is just about it for this week. Don't forget there is loads more to

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see on Facebook and Twitter. From here in Gloucester, thanks for

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watching. Good night. Coming up next week, exposed - the illegal teeth

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