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Good evening and welcome to the programme. This evening we `re in


the stunning grounds of chats Playhouse in Derbyshire.


Good evening and welcome to Inside Out. Tonight we reflect on the life


of the dowager distress of Devonshire, the last of the famous


sisters. But first tonight, we hear from the family of teacher `nd


Maguire about her tragic de`th doing the job she loved. We feel that she


is irreplaceable. Irreplace`ble as a wife, as a mother, as a sister.


Also, how do we help heal the emotional scars of the soldhers who


return from war? Today, the memorial service was held for up `` for


schoolteacher Anne Maguire. Her family has been talking to our


report about their loss. Anne Maguire, the teacher khlled in


her classroom during a Spanhsh lesson. A teenager is due to go on


trial for the murder in a fdw weeks' time. At today's memorial


service, the city paid tribtte to an extraordinary woman who madd a


difference to thousands of lives. This guitar wielding choir


conducting Spanish`speaking prayer in encouraging curvaceous presence


in our lives `` vivacious presence. When we spoke to her family a few


days ago, today's memorial was very much on their minds. I'm gr`teful to


the Council and the of Leeds for organising the memorial service in


memory of her life. She was a very shy person and she would not have


enjoyed being the centre of attention but she would havd been


working very hard in the background to make sure everything was going


well. I think what we are hoping for is not just our message but the fact


that there is going to be so any people they're bringing thehr own


individual memories and togdther we can paint a picture of the person


she was. She brought you up as her own. It is a special person that


does that. It is. We will bd forever grateful. We all have some stories


to Dell `` tell. It was the kind of person that she was. The ovdrriding


thing that we feel is that she is irreplaceable. She is irreplaceable


as a wife, a mother, as a shster, as an aunt, as a grandmother. We have


all lost per person. There hs a definite emptiness. Our mum was


always there for us. She usdd to stand by us, she was a rock, she


provided support and kindness and love in whatever we did. Yotr wife,


your mother, your aunt, was the favourite teacher of so manx pupils


over the years. How does th`t make you feel that so many other people


have held in such high regard for her touching their lives as a


teacher? We have always been aware of her popularity. We could go


nowhere and the surrounding area when somebody would not be heard to


shout hello. I am so grateftl to my teachers that was special in my life


and I absolutely understand those people that when they see hdr have


to tell her what she did for them and they understand that shd would


be so grateful to know how they have succeeded. Her face was verx


important to the land was no doubt a huge guiding her own life. How


important it was very strongly by her faith. She took her faith very


seriously. The guided her in her professional and family lifd. It


gave her the framework that made her the giving and the wonderful person


she was. I think a generosity of spirit is some thing I have thought


more about. Throwing up, I felt that she gave everything to me `` growing


up. She did it for all of us. That is a really special person `nd


manages to affect that many lives. I think her faith was that strong that


even as a family come indivhdually, even if we lost our way is `long the


`` faith along the way, she brought us back to where we should be. That


is the case now, especially after she has gone. Many people would have


seen you outside the school in the days after, reading the messages


that had been left. How much of a support were all those mess`ges


Yes, I remember that day very well. The very empty hollow sick feeling


inside. And reading those mdssages made us feel so comforted and so


able to understand that othdrs were feeling the pain as well. They were


of great comfort to us. And some of the messages, especially by some


very young people, were verx poignant and moving. We havd so many


of our own it will stories `nd memories and we are so gratdful that


people shared theirs becausd it has allowed us to see her through their


eyes. And add those two are all memory banks. You have all those


messages. What does it mean to have those messages in your possdssion?


It means a great deal. I sthll read them on occasion. And receive a


great deal of solace from them. They are important. They are tre`sured by


as now. Yes. We now have a charity in your mother 's memory. What do


you hope the legacy of that will be? I think we really want her legacy to


be something that stands for everything she was and encolpasses


everything she did in her work, the person she was to summon people She


taught for 40 years. She will have affected thousands of pupils and


probably shape their career choices, decisions they madd in


their live `` lives. We feel her legacy should be something that


continues this work and what you gave to people. This lunch time


schools across Leeds join friends, colleagues and generations of Anne


Maguire 's pupils in a memo `` minute silence in memory of a


wonderful woman. She was a special teacher to so many over the years.


She was obviously special in her home life as well. She was very


special. She was the mainst`y of the family. She was the centre xacht ``


centre of our family. The one thing I am certain of, if she had a


choice, she would be with us here and now, and she would love the


situation where we are all together. She was a very loving


dedicated wife and a natural mother and it was her natural mothdring


qualities that I think made her such a wonderful teacher.


If you would like to get in touch with us then you can. The address is


on the screen. Coming up, wd look back on the incredible life of the


Dowager Duchess of Devonshire. At the end of the year, British troops


will pull out of Afghanistan. During the conflict, many soldiers have


lost their lives whilst othdrs have suffered terrible injuries. But it


is families with loved ones returning who will be looking out


for the less visible impacts of war. Before it is too late.


We are hoping to raise loads and money `` loads of money. Mary and


Karen are united through thdir loss. He died a week before Ashlex and


that is what brought us togdther. We are now very good friends.


Mary and Karen's sons were war veterans, but were only 23 `nd 4


when they died. They are relembered year. The two young men, were not


killed in Afghanistan or Ir`q, they had left the Army, but they couldn't


leave behind the emotional trauma of war. Lee and Ashley took thdir own


lives just one week apart. He was such a lovely young boy. In his


later teenage years, she was always the life and soul of the party. He


loved the Army, and this was going to be the career he would choose. I


noticed, as soon as we got him from the airport after his tour had


finished, the look on his f`ce, you look so vacant, it wasn't hhm any


more. It wasn't the fun lovhng happy little soul. Lee was really


happy`go`lucky, a prankster who kept everybody entertained. He joined the


Army just before his 18th bhrthday. He was doing really well and


enjoying it. After Afghanistan, that was when we noticed a changd. He got


moody quiet. His friends sahd he wasn't the same. We asked hhm to


tell us about it, and he sahd we didn't need to know. Ashley is at


risk of suicide. A couple of weeks before he was released. Exactly the


same with glee. The systems have failed. There needs to be a better


link between the MOD and doctors, but there also needs to be lore


help. The MoD told me mental health is a top priority. To ensurd a


better continuity of care, when a veteran registers with AGP the


doctor receives a letter st`ting that they have received milhtary


medical services. But it is not the whole answer. The veteran still have


to admit that they have a problem and ask your help. They can wait


four years. `` four years. This man was a nurse in the Territorhal


Army. He had been a nurse bdfore, but nothing prepared him for the


time he spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. Children coming in


having been bombed, shot at. Men and women, limbs missing,


life`threatening injuries. The worst thing I saw was a man whose body I


had to guard over. He had h`d his head blown off. It was a grden line.


`` clean line. On his return, Phil's wife noticed a real


difference. He had never re`lly shown any aggression or angdr


beforehand, and I was very heavily pregnant and it came to a point in a


car park, where he just completely lost it with somebody else over what


seemed to be nothing. When we got home, I said, you need to go and get


help or you need to leave, because I was not prepared to bring up my baby


with the person who was likd that. After four years of suffering and


ten weeks of NHS counselling, he was referred to the veterans mental


health charity, Stressed and its medical centre. It took me `n hour


to get out of the car and go through the doors. A second residential stay


has made the difference. It saved my life and my marriage. I can


definitely say, if it wasn't for them, I would not be here. Ht is


very hard. And to admit that something is wrong, that's really


hard. There is a big worry `bout when we withdraw from Afghanistan as


to how many mental health c`ses there will actually be. I think


there will be a tidal wave. Armed Forces Day in Nottingham. Even


doctors in the forces can f`il to recognise their own poster Latic


stress for decades. `` post`traumatic stress disorder for


decades. This man is a doctor who specialises in psychiatry. This is


me as a colonel in Germany, before the war started. In 1979, following


the birth of his son, he was stationed in Northern Ireland. Barry


attended the Warrenpoint atrocity after the first bomb and thdn a


second exploded. A close frhend of mine was blown to pieces. B`rry


struggled for the next 25 ydars A fellow GP convinced and he had PTSD.


A little light bulb went on, and I'd not, no, no. I can't go mad. Using


the pejorative term, mad. I didn't like being labelled as mad, and I


still don't. I would much r`ther have lost an eye or a leg, `nd I


would have treated myself as a hero and be proud to say, I was there. I


am the veteran Lee is an ch`mpion. Deborah


access, and it has developed a mental health support network. The


National Memorial Arboretum in Staffordshire, where the nales of


those who have fallen in battle are in great. The names of the `nd


Ashley won't be found suicides. The devastation on the


family. These lads have fought for their country, our boys, went to


war, got medals, come out whth a different battle that nobodx seems


to care about. Going through Ashley's medical notes and three


entries, being placed on suhcide watch on the day of his reldase


next of kin not being inforled of any of this, that's is the hardest


thing I have to swallow, to be quite honest with you. If I knew, my son


would still be here. Definitely This is the village where the


Dowager Duchess of Devonshire spent her later years. Deborah Mitford


played a key role in turning Chatswood into one of Britahn's best


loved stately homes, and eight successful business. She had an


amazing life. It is the lifd story reads like a who is who of the 0th


century. She mixed with roy`lty presidents, prime ministers, and on


a single notorious occasion, with her sister Unity Mitford, she had


tea with Hitler. Here, she will be remembered for her role in saving


one of the nation's favourite places, turning Chatswood b`ck into


a stately home to visit. It is a place she, with reluctantly


expressed pride, was able to share with the millions who came. It is


beautiful. I get heaps of ldtters from people saying, I have had a


terrible illness or a terrible tragedy in my life, and I h`ve gone


to walk in the park at Chatswood and I feel much better. Deborah Mitford


was the youngest of six sisters and one brother, a family which became


notorious in the 1930s. Jessica became a communist, Nancy a


successful author, Diana married the fascist leader Moseley. Months


later, Deborah was dancing with the son of Joseph Kennedy, the


ambassador to Britain. She wrote in her diary that Jack Kennedy was


rather boring but nice. Isn't it strange? But that is the sort of


thing that did happen. The thing was that my sister knew Hitler very


well, pretty well, and he sdemed to be very fond of her. Troops and


police guard at every entrance to the docks. It was the occashon of


the arrival of the Unity Mitford, friend of Hitler. Unity Mitford was


demonised at home. When war broke out, she shot herself in thd head


with a pistol. By Christmas 193 , with Hitler's, Deborah and her


mother managed to get Unity Mitford home via Switzerland, but the


cameras were in wait at Folkestone, the press had been tipped off. Unity


never fully recovered and dhed in 1948. Deborah said she could not


help loving her sister, whatever the politics. It was never in the least


bit interesting. It went ovdr my head. It was the person I loved


Deborah married her love in 194 , Andrew Cavendish, an officer in the


Coldstream Guards, was the second son of the Duke of Devonshire. While


the build`up to war tore ap`rt the Mitford family, the consequdnces of


war were hard to bear. Her brother, Tom, was killed. Henry Wyndham,


killed in the war. My brothdr, killed in the war. Willie C`vendish


married a woman called Kathleen His death meant Andrew and Deborah


workers to the dukedom. Awftl. Andrew was his father's error. Then


another big surprise was th`t my father died when he was onlx 55 In


1950. The rich estates like Chatsworth have become unpopular


after the First World War. For the second, the mood of the country seem


to be, terror them down. Thd feeling against houses like this was


absolutely 100% against. Knock them down, get rid of them, nobody wants


them. Death duties for the new Devonshire 's were severe. The Duke


had to sell and give away properties to pay them off, until 1974. It was


Hugh made all the decisions about the death duties. 80%, everxthing.


Pictures, works of art, stocks and shares, land, the lot. The


magnificence design for one noble family is partly shared by ordinary


people, making themselves at home. People think they belong here. They


think that this belongs to them and that has always been the case,


because it has always been open to the public. It was all been ever


since it was built. `` open. It stands were a former mansion held


Mary Queen of Scots. The prdsent Duke of Devonshire is unwilling to


bear the burden of living at Chatswood house. He is contdnt with


the modest evens with house nearby. They were soon advised to lhve in


Chatsworth, to put a family in their again. It was seen as very natural


to Andrew and his family to come back and live here. We had lived


away for ten years, so we knew it intimately. We used to drivd across


and I used to say to Andrew, that is a nice house, I want to livd there.


He used to say, do be quite. In the end, we came. The visitors were far


from ordinary. President Jack Kennedy is one hour late arriving at


Gatwick Airport. He will be making an unscheduled visit to the grave of


his sister Kathleen end of his sister Kathleen induction. Ht was


1963, the year he was assassinated. He is a Chatsworth. This is a letter


I wrote to my sister to say he is coming here tomorrow, a proper


mystery trip. Two helicopters arrived yesterday afternoon, I was


set to meet them, and out ttmbled several men and a Brigadier. It was


a well`planned visitor `` vhsit far from unscheduled. His helicopter


landed up there, by the graveyard, and his secret serviceman s`id, you


can't go to Chatsworth, it hs open to the public, it is out of the


question, but of course he came He walked up the west and their work


just the few visitors, it w`s not a nice day, and they looked at this


man coming up the stairs, it was a real double take for a few of them,


and they couldn't believe it. She never met Elvis, but she did have


his memorabilia and his mushc. I couldn't see him in the flesh


because he was dead before H realised what he was, but I have


been to Graceland twice. So beautiful when he was young. And his


voice is better than any of the singers that have been sincd then.


But I have ever heard. `` that I have ever heard. Graceland was


second only to the White Hotse. Chatsworth remains one of Britain's


biggest attractions. Life hdre was made absolutely wonderful bx the


support of the staff. The lot of living with all of those people


working with them is somethhng that is not open to many, and th`t I


suppose is rather the thing I take away with me from the garden to the


forms, to the inside of the house, everything. She liked to quote her


friend JFK. Ask not what yotr country can do for you. Ask what you


can do for your country. Th`t is all for tonight from your Chatsworth.


Make sure you join us next week `` you add a Chatsworth. Six wdeks on


from a rubber six scandal wd will be investigating how men travelled from


all the country to abusing girls there. `` the Rotherham scandal


Toby Foster presents the stories that matter in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire. This week, Sarah Sturdey investigates the impact of post-traumatic stress for returning soldiers and Mike Dilger tells the incredible story of the Chatsworth banana.

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