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Good evening and welcome to the programme. This evening we `re in

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the stunning grounds of chats Playhouse in Derbyshire.

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Good evening and welcome to Inside Out. Tonight we reflect on the life

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of the dowager distress of Devonshire, the last of the famous

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sisters. But first tonight, we hear from the family of teacher `nd

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Maguire about her tragic de`th doing the job she loved. We feel that she

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is irreplaceable. Irreplace`ble as a wife, as a mother, as a sister.

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Also, how do we help heal the emotional scars of the soldhers who

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return from war? Today, the memorial service was held for up `` for

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schoolteacher Anne Maguire. Her family has been talking to our

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report about their loss. Anne Maguire, the teacher khlled in

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her classroom during a Spanhsh lesson. A teenager is due to go on

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trial for the murder in a fdw weeks' time. At today's memorial

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service, the city paid tribtte to an extraordinary woman who madd a

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difference to thousands of lives. This guitar wielding choir

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conducting Spanish`speaking prayer in encouraging curvaceous presence

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in our lives `` vivacious presence. When we spoke to her family a few

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days ago, today's memorial was very much on their minds. I'm gr`teful to

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the Council and the of Leeds for organising the memorial service in

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memory of her life. She was a very shy person and she would not have

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enjoyed being the centre of attention but she would havd been

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working very hard in the background to make sure everything was going

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well. I think what we are hoping for is not just our message but the fact

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that there is going to be so any people they're bringing thehr own

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individual memories and togdther we can paint a picture of the person

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she was. She brought you up as her own. It is a special person that

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does that. It is. We will bd forever grateful. We all have some stories

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to Dell `` tell. It was the kind of person that she was. The ovdrriding

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thing that we feel is that she is irreplaceable. She is irreplaceable

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as a wife, a mother, as a shster, as an aunt, as a grandmother. We have

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all lost per person. There hs a definite emptiness. Our mum was

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always there for us. She usdd to stand by us, she was a rock, she

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provided support and kindness and love in whatever we did. Yotr wife,

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your mother, your aunt, was the favourite teacher of so manx pupils

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over the years. How does th`t make you feel that so many other people

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have held in such high regard for her touching their lives as a

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teacher? We have always been aware of her popularity. We could go

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nowhere and the surrounding area when somebody would not be heard to

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shout hello. I am so grateftl to my teachers that was special in my life

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and I absolutely understand those people that when they see hdr have

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to tell her what she did for them and they understand that shd would

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be so grateful to know how they have succeeded. Her face was verx

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important to the land was no doubt a huge guiding her own life. How

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important it was very strongly by her faith. She took her faith very

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seriously. The guided her in her professional and family lifd. It

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gave her the framework that made her the giving and the wonderful person

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she was. I think a generosity of spirit is some thing I have thought

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more about. Throwing up, I felt that she gave everything to me `` growing

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up. She did it for all of us. That is a really special person `nd

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manages to affect that many lives. I think her faith was that strong that

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even as a family come indivhdually, even if we lost our way is `long the

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`` faith along the way, she brought us back to where we should be. That

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is the case now, especially after she has gone. Many people would have

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seen you outside the school in the days after, reading the messages

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that had been left. How much of a support were all those mess`ges

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Yes, I remember that day very well. The very empty hollow sick feeling

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inside. And reading those mdssages made us feel so comforted and so

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able to understand that othdrs were feeling the pain as well. They were

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of great comfort to us. And some of the messages, especially by some

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very young people, were verx poignant and moving. We havd so many

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of our own it will stories `nd memories and we are so gratdful that

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people shared theirs becausd it has allowed us to see her through their

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eyes. And add those two are all memory banks. You have all those

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messages. What does it mean to have those messages in your possdssion?

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It means a great deal. I sthll read them on occasion. And receive a

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great deal of solace from them. They are important. They are tre`sured by

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as now. Yes. We now have a charity in your mother 's memory. What do

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you hope the legacy of that will be? I think we really want her legacy to

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be something that stands for everything she was and encolpasses

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everything she did in her work, the person she was to summon people She

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taught for 40 years. She will have affected thousands of pupils and

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probably shape their career choices, decisions they madd in

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their live `` lives. We feel her legacy should be something that

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continues this work and what you gave to people. This lunch time

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schools across Leeds join friends, colleagues and generations of Anne

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Maguire 's pupils in a memo `` minute silence in memory of a

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wonderful woman. She was a special teacher to so many over the years.

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She was obviously special in her home life as well. She was very

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special. She was the mainst`y of the family. She was the centre xacht ``

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centre of our family. The one thing I am certain of, if she had a

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choice, she would be with us here and now, and she would love the

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situation where we are all together. She was a very loving

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dedicated wife and a natural mother and it was her natural mothdring

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qualities that I think made her such a wonderful teacher.

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If you would like to get in touch with us then you can. The address is

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on the screen. Coming up, wd look back on the incredible life of the

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Dowager Duchess of Devonshire. At the end of the year, British troops

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will pull out of Afghanistan. During the conflict, many soldiers have

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lost their lives whilst othdrs have suffered terrible injuries. But it

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is families with loved ones returning who will be looking out

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for the less visible impacts of war. Before it is too late.

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We are hoping to raise loads and money `` loads of money. Mary and

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Karen are united through thdir loss. He died a week before Ashlex and

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that is what brought us togdther. We are now very good friends.

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Mary and Karen's sons were war veterans, but were only 23 `nd 4

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when they died. They are relembered year. The two young men, were not

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killed in Afghanistan or Ir`q, they had left the Army, but they couldn't

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leave behind the emotional trauma of war. Lee and Ashley took thdir own

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lives just one week apart. He was such a lovely young boy. In his

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later teenage years, she was always the life and soul of the party. He

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loved the Army, and this was going to be the career he would choose. I

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noticed, as soon as we got him from the airport after his tour had

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finished, the look on his f`ce, you look so vacant, it wasn't hhm any

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more. It wasn't the fun lovhng happy little soul. Lee was really

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happy`go`lucky, a prankster who kept everybody entertained. He joined the

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Army just before his 18th bhrthday. He was doing really well and

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enjoying it. After Afghanistan, that was when we noticed a changd. He got

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moody quiet. His friends sahd he wasn't the same. We asked hhm to

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tell us about it, and he sahd we didn't need to know. Ashley is at

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risk of suicide. A couple of weeks before he was released. Exactly the

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same with glee. The systems have failed. There needs to be a better

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link between the MOD and doctors, but there also needs to be lore

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help. The MoD told me mental health is a top priority. To ensurd a

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better continuity of care, when a veteran registers with AGP the

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doctor receives a letter st`ting that they have received milhtary

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medical services. But it is not the whole answer. The veteran still have

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to admit that they have a problem and ask your help. They can wait

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four years. `` four years. This man was a nurse in the Territorhal

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Army. He had been a nurse bdfore, but nothing prepared him for the

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time he spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. Children coming in

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having been bombed, shot at. Men and women, limbs missing,

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life`threatening injuries. The worst thing I saw was a man whose body I

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had to guard over. He had h`d his head blown off. It was a grden line.

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`` clean line. On his return, Phil's wife noticed a real

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difference. He had never re`lly shown any aggression or angdr

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beforehand, and I was very heavily pregnant and it came to a point in a

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car park, where he just completely lost it with somebody else over what

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seemed to be nothing. When we got home, I said, you need to go and get

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help or you need to leave, because I was not prepared to bring up my baby

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with the person who was likd that. After four years of suffering and

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ten weeks of NHS counselling, he was referred to the veterans mental

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health charity, Stressed and its medical centre. It took me `n hour

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to get out of the car and go through the doors. A second residential stay

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has made the difference. It saved my life and my marriage. I can

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definitely say, if it wasn't for them, I would not be here. Ht is

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very hard. And to admit that something is wrong, that's really

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hard. There is a big worry `bout when we withdraw from Afghanistan as

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to how many mental health c`ses there will actually be. I think

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there will be a tidal wave. Armed Forces Day in Nottingham. Even

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doctors in the forces can f`il to recognise their own poster Latic

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stress for decades. `` post`traumatic stress disorder for

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decades. This man is a doctor who specialises in psychiatry. This is

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me as a colonel in Germany, before the war started. In 1979, following

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the birth of his son, he was stationed in Northern Ireland. Barry

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attended the Warrenpoint atrocity after the first bomb and thdn a

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second exploded. A close frhend of mine was blown to pieces. B`rry

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struggled for the next 25 ydars A fellow GP convinced and he had PTSD.

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A little light bulb went on, and I'd not, no, no. I can't go mad. Using

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the pejorative term, mad. I didn't like being labelled as mad, and I

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still don't. I would much r`ther have lost an eye or a leg, `nd I

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would have treated myself as a hero and be proud to say, I was there. I

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am the veteran Lee is an ch`mpion. Deborah

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access, and it has developed a mental health support network. The

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National Memorial Arboretum in Staffordshire, where the nales of

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those who have fallen in battle are in great. The names of the `nd

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Ashley won't be found suicides. The devastation on the

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family. These lads have fought for their country, our boys, went to

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war, got medals, come out whth a different battle that nobodx seems

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to care about. Going through Ashley's medical notes and three

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entries, being placed on suhcide watch on the day of his reldase

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next of kin not being inforled of any of this, that's is the hardest

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thing I have to swallow, to be quite honest with you. If I knew, my son

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would still be here. Definitely This is the village where the

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Dowager Duchess of Devonshire spent her later years. Deborah Mitford

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played a key role in turning Chatswood into one of Britahn's best

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loved stately homes, and eight successful business. She had an

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amazing life. It is the lifd story reads like a who is who of the 0th

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century. She mixed with roy`lty presidents, prime ministers, and on

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a single notorious occasion, with her sister Unity Mitford, she had

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tea with Hitler. Here, she will be remembered for her role in saving

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one of the nation's favourite places, turning Chatswood b`ck into

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a stately home to visit. It is a place she, with reluctantly

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expressed pride, was able to share with the millions who came. It is

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beautiful. I get heaps of ldtters from people saying, I have had a

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terrible illness or a terrible tragedy in my life, and I h`ve gone

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to walk in the park at Chatswood and I feel much better. Deborah Mitford

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was the youngest of six sisters and one brother, a family which became

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notorious in the 1930s. Jessica became a communist, Nancy a

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successful author, Diana married the fascist leader Moseley. Months

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later, Deborah was dancing with the son of Joseph Kennedy, the

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ambassador to Britain. She wrote in her diary that Jack Kennedy was

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rather boring but nice. Isn't it strange? But that is the sort of

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thing that did happen. The thing was that my sister knew Hitler very

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well, pretty well, and he sdemed to be very fond of her. Troops and

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police guard at every entrance to the docks. It was the occashon of

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the arrival of the Unity Mitford, friend of Hitler. Unity Mitford was

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demonised at home. When war broke out, she shot herself in thd head

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with a pistol. By Christmas 193 , with Hitler's, Deborah and her

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mother managed to get Unity Mitford home via Switzerland, but the

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cameras were in wait at Folkestone, the press had been tipped off. Unity

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never fully recovered and dhed in 1948. Deborah said she could not

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help loving her sister, whatever the politics. It was never in the least

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bit interesting. It went ovdr my head. It was the person I loved

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Deborah married her love in 194 , Andrew Cavendish, an officer in the

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Coldstream Guards, was the second son of the Duke of Devonshire. While

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the build`up to war tore ap`rt the Mitford family, the consequdnces of

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war were hard to bear. Her brother, Tom, was killed. Henry Wyndham,

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killed in the war. My brothdr, killed in the war. Willie C`vendish

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married a woman called Kathleen His death meant Andrew and Deborah

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workers to the dukedom. Awftl. Andrew was his father's error. Then

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another big surprise was th`t my father died when he was onlx 55 In

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1950. The rich estates like Chatsworth have become unpopular

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after the First World War. For the second, the mood of the country seem

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to be, terror them down. Thd feeling against houses like this was

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absolutely 100% against. Knock them down, get rid of them, nobody wants

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them. Death duties for the new Devonshire 's were severe. The Duke

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had to sell and give away properties to pay them off, until 1974. It was

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Hugh made all the decisions about the death duties. 80%, everxthing.

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Pictures, works of art, stocks and shares, land, the lot. The

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magnificence design for one noble family is partly shared by ordinary

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people, making themselves at home. People think they belong here. They

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think that this belongs to them and that has always been the case,

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because it has always been open to the public. It was all been ever

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since it was built. `` open. It stands were a former mansion held

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Mary Queen of Scots. The prdsent Duke of Devonshire is unwilling to

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bear the burden of living at Chatswood house. He is contdnt with

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the modest evens with house nearby. They were soon advised to lhve in

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Chatsworth, to put a family in their again. It was seen as very natural

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to Andrew and his family to come back and live here. We had lived

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away for ten years, so we knew it intimately. We used to drivd across

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and I used to say to Andrew, that is a nice house, I want to livd there.

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He used to say, do be quite. In the end, we came. The visitors were far

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from ordinary. President Jack Kennedy is one hour late arriving at

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Gatwick Airport. He will be making an unscheduled visit to the grave of

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his sister Kathleen end of his sister Kathleen induction. Ht was

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1963, the year he was assassinated. He is a Chatsworth. This is a letter

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I wrote to my sister to say he is coming here tomorrow, a proper

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mystery trip. Two helicopters arrived yesterday afternoon, I was

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set to meet them, and out ttmbled several men and a Brigadier. It was

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a well`planned visitor `` vhsit far from unscheduled. His helicopter

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landed up there, by the graveyard, and his secret serviceman s`id, you

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can't go to Chatsworth, it hs open to the public, it is out of the

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question, but of course he came He walked up the west and their work

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just the few visitors, it w`s not a nice day, and they looked at this

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man coming up the stairs, it was a real double take for a few of them,

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and they couldn't believe it. She never met Elvis, but she did have

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his memorabilia and his mushc. I couldn't see him in the flesh

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because he was dead before H realised what he was, but I have

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been to Graceland twice. So beautiful when he was young. And his

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voice is better than any of the singers that have been sincd then.

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But I have ever heard. `` that I have ever heard. Graceland was

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second only to the White Hotse. Chatsworth remains one of Britain's

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biggest attractions. Life hdre was made absolutely wonderful bx the

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support of the staff. The lot of living with all of those people

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working with them is somethhng that is not open to many, and th`t I

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suppose is rather the thing I take away with me from the garden to the

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forms, to the inside of the house, everything. She liked to quote her

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friend JFK. Ask not what yotr country can do for you. Ask what you

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can do for your country. Th`t is all for tonight from your Chatsworth.

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Make sure you join us next week `` you add a Chatsworth. Six wdeks on

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from a rubber six scandal wd will be investigating how men travelled from

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all the country to abusing girls there. `` the Rotherham scandal

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Toby Foster presents the stories that matter in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire. This week, Sarah Sturdey investigates the impact of post-traumatic stress for returning soldiers and Mike Dilger tells the incredible story of the Chatsworth banana.


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