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Now on BBC One, Inside Out with Paul Hudson.

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Good evening.

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Tonight: It's one of the most troubled police

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forces in the country, and we talk to another

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family who want answers from South Yorkshire Police.

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Welcome to Inside Out, I'm Paul Hudson.

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This week, we hear from a family who are

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still looking for answers and crucial evidence about the death of

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their father and husband who more than 16 years ago

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was trampled to death by a police horse.

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And we hear from a witness who saw what happendd.

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He went backwards, flat on the ground, and then the horse

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put his left front foot right onto his stomach.

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Also tonight: Warnings that billions could be lost from the

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Northern economy after Brexht.

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So what now for the so-calldd Northern powerhouse?

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Any investment decisions yot might want to make here will be on ice.

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We ask George Osbourne whether his project is now doomed.

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In a Brexit world, it is even more important

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that the North sells itself around the world.

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South Yorkshire Police have been involved

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in some of the most notoriots incidents in British policing.

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The worst being the cover-up following

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the Hillsborough disaster.

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Tonight, Dan Johnson re-examines the death of

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a football fan at a match hdre in Rotherham 16 years ago,

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and his family's long search for justice.

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We just feel like he deserves justice

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as well, he didn't deserve to go to that match

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and he didn't deserve to die

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and we didn't deserve to grow up without a father.

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Is she also aware of the tr`gic case of Terry Coles,

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a Swansea City supporter who was trampled to death by a police horse

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at a football match in 2000?

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He kicked the horse on.

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You know, the horse geed up, the horse went

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faster.

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You know, it only took a couple of strides and...

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And he hit Terry.

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I think the real truth needs to be examined.

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Terry Coles, a father and a football fan who lost

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his life following his team.

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Terry died after being knocked down by a

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police horse, here in South Yorkshire, just minutds before

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kick-off.

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Swansea City were playing Rotherham United in the last game of

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the season.

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At Terry's funeral, his wifd Christine and his two young

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children were joined by hundreds of football fans.

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Tell me a little bit about Terry for the people that don't

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know much about him - what was he like?

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Very sociable man who enjoydd a game of football, and he had two

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lovely children, Natalie and Matthew.

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That was his main, sort of, pleasure -

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supporting his team.

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And unfortunately that was the end as well.

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How importantly did he take football?

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He went to most home games and when he could go away,

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he would go away.

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And that's what Terry did on the 6th of May

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in the year 2000.

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It was a trip of more than 200 miles to Rotherham

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to cheer on Swansea City.

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The two clubs were fighting for the league title

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in what was then division three

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There could have been, should have been, a carnival atmosphere

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but it suddenly turned nastx.

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I went up with nine other friends.

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We went in a stretch limo.

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It was just another away dax for us, really, but with that

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heightened expectation of winning the league.

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And separately Terry travelled to Yorkshire with a group

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of his friends.

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We got to Rotherham about one o'clock,

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parked the minibus up.

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We...

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We all got together and we went to Yates' bar,

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which is a little bit outside..

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Just up from the stadium.

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We went there, we had a couple of drinks, there was police

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there and police horses.

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This is the shiny modern New York stadium, where

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Rotherham now play their gales, but they have only been herd for the

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last four years.

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This is Millmoor, Rotherham's former ground.

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Even though they haven't pl`yed here for eight years,

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it is still standing.

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But in the year 2000, when Terry Coles came here,

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it was already starting to show its age.

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This is the narrow lane that away supporters

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used to be funnelled down.

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They walked us down the high street towards

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the stadium.

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Very hostile reception, all the way, you know?

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Unfortunately...

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It ended in a great tragedy.

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Alan Roberts was a Swansea regular.

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As a young man, he had been involved in hooliganism,

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but his life changed on the day of Terry's death.

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Alan recognised Terry from previous games.

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He found himself next to Terry in the congested alley.

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16 years on, this is the first time he has been back

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to Rotherham.

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It is the first time he has spoken about what happened.

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When I arrived in this area, there were people throwing

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stones at each other.

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As you can see, just around here, it is quite easy to dig a

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little stone out of ground.

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And that is what the Swansea fans were doing,

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retaliating to the Rotherhal fans,

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who were throwing stones from there and there.

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So we got to the lane, that's where the problems occurred.

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I think there was a pub and people were throwing glasses from there.

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Just give me a sense of what it was like when you moved down here.

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Yeah, well, I ran down here to get away

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from the trouble, because I didn't want to get arrested.

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I had been arrested previously at football

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and I didn't want to get arrested any more.

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What I do recall, though, is

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that when all this started happening

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the police brought two police horses into that lane.

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It's easy with the benefit of hindsight to think about

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this, but I remember saying to my son, "What the hell are they

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bringing these into a lane with a lot of people in?"

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He came on the top of the l`ne there and they were

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walking, the police horses, just normal walking.

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And then you could tell by the police officer's bodx

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language he spotted something, he saw something,

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and he kicked the horse on.

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You know, the horse geed up.

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I don't know what the term hs, you know, the horse term,

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but the horse went faster.

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He only took a couple of strides and as I was

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turning back to see where the police officer was, it was impact.

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I was told to stop at the top of the lane.

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At that point, I saw the horse,

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if I can recall maybe two horses,

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going down.

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At the end, the police said, "Right, carry on."

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So we walked down.

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I got to the point there and Mr Coles was lying on the floor.

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At that particular time,

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I was unaware what had happdned

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But obviously, word got arotnd then from friends on the bus

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that said he had been hit by a horse.

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He headed backwards, he fell backwards

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flat on the ground, sort of like that.

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And then the horse put its left front foot

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right onto his stomach.

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In the ambulance, he was under a lot of pain.

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The actual injury to his stomach was quite prominent,

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because he kept pulling his T-shirt up and...

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It was obvious from then that he was

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in a bad way, you know?

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He was in and out of consciousness

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and screaming with pain when he came round.

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So we went to hospital

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and the rest is history, to be honest.

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After impact, the policeman tried to turn him,

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he turned him to the left, and it was difficult,

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because there was people evdrywhere.

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You know, people are shouting at the police officer,

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people were trying to grab the police officer, people were

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screaming, "Get his number."

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The horse's back legs slipphng on this and you could hear

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the hooves really loudly slhpping, trying to gain traction.

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So I definitely think the horse was spooked,

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but after the event.

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Before the event, no, the horse was just acting normal.

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I think as the phone calls progressed,

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you just felt it was getting more and more serious and he died of

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you know, bleeding, external bleeding and

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there was just nothing they could do.

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They tried their best to save his life

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but unfortunately he died on the table.

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It is possible he just wantdd to break up the crowd,

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to try to stop the trouble.

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He didn't mean to hit anyond, especially somebody

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crouched down, maybe he didn't see from up on a horse?

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I don't believe that.

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It is such a small space, why would you bring a horse

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into such a confined space?

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Yes, there was trouble, there was people throwing

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stones back and forward at dach other,

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but would you charge a horsd into people?

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Why would you do that?

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Shouldn't the fans who were here fighting that day

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take some responsibility as well for creating that situation?

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Yes, absolutely.

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Terry's family was asking questions of the force.

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The police complaints authority asked another police force

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to investigate.

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Because Alan Roberts had thrown something at the polhce,

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and because he had a historx of football violence, he was

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afraid to come forward.

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But a few days later,

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he spoke to West Yorkshire Police detectives.

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Obviously I made my statement originally 16 years ago.

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I will be honest, because I threw the slate

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at the police officer, it was going through my

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mind of going back to jail

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and whether I was going to incriminate myself so I had a lot of

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thinking to do, but eventually my conscience overcame.

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I think it was used at the inquest,

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but it was read out by someone else.

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I mean, I wasn't invited to the inquest, which did surprise me.

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You know, because I gave such an accurate account,

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I believe, of events.

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Alan Roberts was never called to explain what he s`w,

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and perhaps even more surprisingly there was a CCTV

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footage of the whole incident that was never shown to the jury.

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The family solicitor never even got to see it.

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It is something that has always disturbed Christine Coles.

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I think the jury should havd had the opportunity to actually see

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for themselves what happened.

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I actually viewed the tape and until this day

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I definitely say the horse went directly into his path.

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Do you think it was a deliberate act?

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I am not saying deliberate but it was

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obviously loss of control during the policing of the latch.

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A lot of witness statements backed that up,

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to say that, you know, it w`s out of control

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and the horses were travellhng at a greater speed...

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And you know the outcome.

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After a nine-day hearing here at Doncaster

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Magistrates' Court, the inqtest jury

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returned a verdict of accidental death.

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I think that they did focus a lot

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on the consumption of alcohol on the day.

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And bad behaviour of the fans.

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But I think it was the actu`l policing of the crowds.

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And did you get the sense afterwards that they

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were trying to blane Terry, or at least...?

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I think so, because of the focus on the alcohol.

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You know, they kept saying that he was four times

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over the drink-drive limit.

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But of course he was going to a football match,

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he wasn't driving, he wasn't causing any trouble.

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And it did seem to be focusdd mainly on the alcohol.

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The police officer riding the horse that hit Terry wasn't in cotrt

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when the inquest jury delivered its verdict.

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PC Dave Lindsay released a statement

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offering his condolences to the family.

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The jury's accidental death verdict reflects the evidence given

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and the circumstances of the incident.

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Do you support what happened on that day?

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I regret the death of Mr Coles.

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I support the policing oper`tion.

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They may well be.

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We may never be in an exactly similar situation.

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Christine Coles sued South Xorkshire Police but lost a claim

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for compensation.

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A review by the Independent Police Complaints

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Commission heavily criticisdd the horse rider, PC Lindsay, and two

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other officers.

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One of the match commanders, superintendent Dave

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Turner, was given a written warning, but his colleague, Chief Inspector

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Paul Cropley, and PC Dave Lhndsay, had both retired by then so there

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was no punishment.

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That could have been where it ended, but earlier

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this year the BBC showed a documentary about the Hillsborough

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families' fight for justice, and that got the Coles family thinking

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again about what happened to Terry.

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They recently discovered two of the officers

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found to have failed in their

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duty over Terry's death had also been involved in the Hillsborough

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disaster of 1989.

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Both of those officers, Dave Lindsay and Paul

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Cropley, gave statements after the Hillsborough disaster

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talking about fans who were drunk and you didn't

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have tickets.

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Now, that's the narrative that's been rejected

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twice.

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First by Lord Justice Taylor's inquiry in 1989, and again

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by the fresh Hillsborough inquests that finished earlier this xear

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I watched the documentary and I founnd that really totching.

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You know, it was so close to home that...

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And real people affected, isn't it?

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The way those families felt is exactly how we feel.

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How do you feel South Yorkshire Police has treated

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you and your family?

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We never really had an apology.

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And that would mean a lot.

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And then perhaps this would never ever happen agahn.

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I remember going out of the court that day and

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the chief officer shook my hand offered his condolences and stated

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"We shan't be gloating over this," which was sort of a funny statement

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to make.

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And those words will always stick with me for the rest of my

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life because...

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How did that leave you feelhng?

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I think they were relieved, to be honest, that they had won the

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case and we had the opportunity to take it to an Appeal Court, but

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financially we weren't able to do so.

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The family's lawyer believes that because of the links to

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Hillsborough, they should now have the chance to look at `ll the

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documents and the CCTV evidence from the time.

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The findings at Hillsborough were so damning about

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some of the police officers involved in both cases, I think it is

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sensible for the family to look at those problems that have been

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highlighted and see if they can get the answers that they want.

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Christine told us that she had seen CCTV of the incident, but that

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wasn't presented at the inqtest

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Does that trouble you?

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I can't understand why it wasn't presented

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at the inquest.

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It's such a key piece of evhdence.

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It was available.

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And I think that is something that the coroner will have to look at,

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and maybe look retrospectivdly, that may adjust their decision.

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And last month, Terry Coles' case was raised

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in Parliament by the Shadow Home Office Minister and MP

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for Swansea East.

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The Home Secretary will be `ware of continuing concerns about

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the historical conduct of South Yorkshire Police.

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Is she also aware of the tr`gic case of Terry Coles?

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Would she agree to look at the evidence and accept that unless

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we have the truth about all these past injustices,

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we will not be able to

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restore trust in South Yorkshire Police?

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Somebody has to take responsibility for what happened

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that day.

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Whether it is an organisation in terms of South

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Yorkshire Police, for the w`y that they organised

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the planning of that match, whether it is an individual,

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somebody made the decision that it would be policed in such a way and

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decisions were made on that day the consequence of that was Terry

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Coles lost his life.

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We need to find out what went wrong.

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It was an accident waiting to happen.

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There was women and children in that lane as well.

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And unfortunately it was Mr Coles that paid the price.

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What sort of a lasting impact has it had?

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It goes through my head at least three or four times a week.

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You know, I see it over and over and over and over,

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to be honest with you.

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It has never gone away.

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I see it like it happened yesterday, and

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just coming here today now, it has had a profound effect because..

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Just being back here is...

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It's weird, you know.

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My heart is going now, just thinking about Terry.

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We won't be able to move forward until

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we have the full truth about Orgreave, Hillsborough, abott what

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happened in Rotherham, also in terms of the

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case of Terry Coles,

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you know, people need to know what happened

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so that we can learn from the past

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and bring people back together.

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And how do you feel South Yorkshire Police responded?

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Not as responsive as I hoped, because we

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did approach them back in May

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and we're still really waithng for an

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outcome from it.

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You know, they have said they are considering the evhdence

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but we just haven't had any sort of concrete response from them,

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as yet.

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We asked South Yorkshire Police for an interview,

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they declined, but gave us a statement saying

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they are now working with the

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family's legal team to gain a better understanding of their concdrns

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The Independent Police Complaints Commission told us it has considered

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the case but there are no plans to review the original inquhry.

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We just feel like he deservds justice is well.

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He didn't deserve to go to that match and he didn't deserve to

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die and we didn't deserve grow up without a father.

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Just as Orgreave is different to Hillsborough, nobody is

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making a direct parallel with what happened here.

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But you have got a match,

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you've got South Yorkshire Police and you've got

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officers' accounts of what happened at Hillsborough that are already

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being re-examined.

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So, perhaps, it was inevitable that fresh questions

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would be raised about what happened to Terry Coles.

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And if you have got any comlents about tonight's programme,

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or you have got a story you think we might like to cover,

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you can get in touch on Facebook or on Twitter.

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Well, it was George Osbournd's big idea to help the North

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catch up with London, but with the former Chancellor now

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consigned to the backbenches, what remains of

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his vision of a Northern powerhouse?

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We examine claims that the uncertainty

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surrounding Brexit could

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cost billions of pounds of investments in the north.

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Toby Foster reports.

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The nation's wealth was built on the draft of

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the industrial north.

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It was a powerhouse of factories.

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This slick promotional video is how the government

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is selling the North today, as a place for foreign investment.

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But just what is the Northern powerhouse?

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Does it even exist?

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Or is it just a catchphrase?

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We cannot live in a country where we have only got

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one successful city.

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We need to make sure we have got lots.

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There is not really anything in London to draw me away

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from such a beautiful place as this.

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The big goal here is to try to turn around something that has

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blighted our country for 100 years, which is the North, South dhvide.

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Since the vote to leave the EU, many aspects of life in the UK have

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been overshadowed by post Brexit uncertainty.

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I have come to York, home of the Europhile.

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58% of the electorate here voted to remain in the EU.

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Two weeks after the nation voted to leave the EU,

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James Wharton, the pro-Brexht Minister for the Northern

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powerhouse, came to York to visit the newly crowned best high street

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in the country, Bishopthorpd Road.

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I wanted to test the mood here and see what effect Brdxit

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has had on confidence.

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A Dutch flower exporter had just arrived with a delivery

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which had become 20% more expensive because of the exchange ratd.

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He fears for his business.

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At the moment, we only export to the UK, it is my main market

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I am not planning on changing it.

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The shops are going to buy less quality flowers because thex have

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to buy more and selling less flowers.

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-- to pay more.

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And that is bad news for this florist.

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It might mean that we might lose these fantastic lorries comhng

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in with such a wonderful supply of fresh flowers.

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And there is no way we could grow them in England.

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We don't have the daylight, we don't have the weather,

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the conditions.

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We are not geared up for it.

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Next door, Lee Preston and his wife Lucy opened this coffee shop

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three years ago with the redundancy package from his IT job.

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I have lived here my whole life pretty much, and I've never seen

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much evidence of a Northern Power...

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Certainly less so now than probably ever, because the things th`t made

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the North and north, which is the industry,

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is not here any more really.

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The darkening skies seem to reflect the mood here, and as the r`in began

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to fall, the Minister for the Northern powerhouse

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was as unprepared for the wdather as his fellow Brexiteers sedmed

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to be for a future outside the EU.

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He has only been here for 14 minutes, but already he has

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boosted the local economy, because, like me, he has

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had to buy a brolly.

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If the powerhouse is going to deliver, it needs to start

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to rebalance that economy, to create growth across the board

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that matches growth we have seen elsewhere in the country.

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That would be more better jobs, more long-term investment.

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This is about taking it to the next level.

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Four months on, and after George Osborne's sacking,

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James Wharton has been moved to another department

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and there is a new Minister for the Northern powerhouse.

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Andrew Percy, the Goole MP.

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His first act was to grant Sheffield a city region devolution de`l.

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The devolution deals we havd signed the government will bring ?3 billion

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of funding that would otherwise be spent and determined

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in London, in Whitehall.

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As somebody who is from the north, a proud Northerner, I have `lways

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argued that we make better decisions from ourselves.

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And we require a mayor as p`rt of that, because we expect

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there to be a strong figure of accountability.

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Following on from London's layor, there are going to be votes

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for so-called Metro Mayors in Manchester, Liverpool,

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Tees Valley and right here in Sheffield,

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where just four years ago, in a referendum, voters rejdcted

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the idea of an elected mayor.

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Critics fear the government will use devolution of power to shift

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the blane to local government for The Deep cuts in servicds.

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But the think tank Centre for Cities is more positive about the hdea

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of devolving financial powers to a city region mayor.

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Very big debate about whether devolution is about managing

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cuts or is about making surd you can make the most of the money.

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So what we are doing through devolution is getting places

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the chance to take their own decisions about what works.

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People in Whitehall don't know what is going to work best

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in Sheffield city region.

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Save Bis jobs...

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250 civil service jobs in Sheffield at the Departmdnt

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for Business, Innovation and Skills are being cut.

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Many staff working on the concept of the Northern powerhouse

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face losing their jobs or moving to London.

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The irony of this is not lost on them.

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It is crazy.

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Move the big departments out of Whitehall.

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London is overheating, the government is moving in the wrong

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direction with this decision.

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Nearby in Rotherham, privatd sector jobs are being created,

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but this has nothing to do with the Northern powerhousd.

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The advanced manufacturing Park is a high-tech hub with dirdct links

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to education and a nearby cdntre to train apprentices.

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And if we are going to keep our brightest and best in the north

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we need to make sure there `re well skilled jobs, to keep them `way

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from the lure of London.

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I am on my way to meet a man who, with a first-class masters

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and doctorate in physics from Oxford, could have had his pick

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of high-tech jobs anywhere in the country.

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Most of my friends from Oxford went off to London or other major

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cities around the world.

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But Richard found work here, in his home in the Lake District.

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At Siemens plant, he's workhng on a prototype cable that

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will have a 30 year life sp`n three miles beneath the sea,

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and plugs that can handle the output of a small nuclear power st`tion.

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I was afraid that I might h`ve to get a job in the south e`st

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if I wanted to work in rese`rch andf development, so I was

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delighted when I had

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the opportunity to come up `nd do some high-tech work

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in the north-west.

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Even within this company, there is enough varied work to keep

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you going on a long career.

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I mean, I have been here for four years now and I have had thd chance

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to work on brand-new research, I have been able to do mech`nical

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design, electrical design, actually testing the compondnts that

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I have spent so long working on

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But for Richard, it is not all about the job.

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This is the landscape that surrounds him on his

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commute to work.

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So, as you cycle to work through all of this every morning,

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Richard, do you ever wonder what the rat race would be like

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I prefer not to!

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I prefer just to enjoy the ride into work and on a day

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like today enjoy the sunshine and peace and quiet.

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There is not really anything in London to draw me away from such

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a beautiful place of birth.

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But Richard's employer is Gdrman and investment is key

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if the Northern powerhouse is going to work.

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Siemens has already invested heavily in the north, including

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the ?310 million wind turbine blade factory and hold back.

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-- in Hull.

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Now they say Brexit threatened such investment in the future.

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Short-term, in terms of any investment decisions

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you might want to make here, especially those which revolve

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in exporting to the European Union, they will be nice.

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-- be on ice.

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There is no question about that

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Doctor Craig Berry is a political economist

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at Sheffield University specialising in the Northern economy.

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He fears Brexit poses a major threat to the success

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of the Northern powerhouse.

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The Brexit vote was a vote to take back control but it undermines

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the ability of the North to take back control, primarily

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because the very specific effect of the European structural

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investment fund has been withdrawn from the region

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and the North was in receipt of billions of pounds up

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to 2020 from these funds, and it is quite uncertain how much

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of that will actually no end up in the region.

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What could the effect be on investment and jobs,

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for example in Sunderland?

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These are worrying times for the north-east, not least

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to car manufacturing.

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They will not be all be at risk but even if a big investor

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like Nissan moves out, some of those jobs will be taken up

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by other firms picking up the pieces of the industry.

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Since leaving office, former Chancellor George Osborne has

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set up the Institute for the Northern powerhouse and has

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defended his legacy.

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The Northern powerhouse is not just a slogan.

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And it is not just saying everything in the North is great.

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No wonder why some Northerndrs fail to look at you as the champhon

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of the North when we saw thd cuts, can you really be a champion

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of the North after being in charge of the austerity budget?

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When I became Chancellor, people were being laid off,

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unemployment was rising, investment was not coming

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to the north of England.

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The big goal here is to try to turn around something that has

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blighted our country for 100 years, which is the North, South dhvide,

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and it cannot be done overnhght

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We are now post Brexit.

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Already we have heard from people like Siemens and Nissan

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that they are putting their investment in the North

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on hold until they know what is happening.

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This is very much reliant on investment, is it not?

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In a Brexit world, it is evdn more important that the North

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sells itself around the world.

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You know, I was with the le`ders of the different cities and we went

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to China and, as a result, Chinese investment has started

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to flow into Manchester and Sheffield and Leeds.

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It is an example of how collectively the North can punch

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above its weight.

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There are still major obstacles to realising the vision

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of a Northern powerhouse.

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Vital transport improvements are long overdue and the success

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of George Osborne's big ide` will largely come down

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to one thing, money.

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Will there be enough?

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That is all from us here in Rotherham.

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Make sure you join us next week

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When we'll be looking at the devastating effects

0:28:440:28:46

of diabetes and meeting a woman who is doing her best to be`t this

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terrible disease before it destroys her health.

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Inside Out Yorkshire and Lincolnshire presented by Paul Hudson.

Dan Johnson meets the family of a man killed by a South Yorkshire police horse at a football match in Rotherham in 2000. They are renewing their calls for documentation and footage from the time finally to be released by the South Yorkshire force. And Toby Foster travels around the north trying to discover what the northern powerhouse is and whether it has any future in a post-Brexit Britain.


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