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meters are welcomed by consumer groups. Now it is time for Meet the | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
Author. My guest today describes himself | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
as oldish, married with three children, and a grandfather | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
eight times over. But there is far more | :00:08. | :00:10. | |
to his story than that. Michael Morpurgo is the author | :00:11. | :00:13. | |
of more than 130 books, the most famous being War Horse, | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
which he wrote in 1982. It tells the story of | :00:18. | :00:21. | |
the First World War through the eyes It was later turned into a play | :00:22. | :00:24. | |
at The National Theatre, and since then it has become | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
an international phenomenon. It has been seen by more | :00:30. | :00:32. | |
than seven million people around the world, taken more | :00:33. | :00:36. | |
than ?300 million at the box office The play has run for seven | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
years in London. It finally comes | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
to an end this month. War Horse has been good | :00:45. | :01:03. | |
to you, Michael Morpurgo. I wonder how sorry you are | :01:04. | :01:05. | |
that it is coming to an end How could you be sorry after seven | :01:06. | :01:08. | |
or eight years of it, I shall miss it for a bit, | :01:09. | :01:15. | |
but then it's going on tour in a year's time around the UK, | :01:16. | :01:22. | |
so it will come back again, I think, and I hope it | :01:23. | :01:25. | |
will come back to London too. We have got some | :01:26. | :01:28. | |
scenes from the show. I, Albert Narracott, | :01:29. | :01:30. | |
do solemnly swear that we shall You must have seen those 100 times, | :01:31. | :01:54. | |
you'e still smiling. I wonder, what was your response | :01:55. | :02:01. | |
when you were first approached I mean, it came over the phone, | :02:02. | :02:03. | |
the conversation, an invitation really to go to London to see | :02:04. | :02:11. | |
the work on camera of Handsspring It was Tom Morris, who was creative | :02:12. | :02:15. | |
director at The National Theatre, I have to say, I thought it was not | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
a good idea to do it with puppets. I would love to be able to say, | :02:20. | :02:26. | |
yes, I was right behind it I was behind the fact | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
it was The National Theatre, because they had done wonderful work | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
with Philip Pullman's book They had done these wonderful shows | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
which reached out to a new audience. So I was flattered they wanted to do | :02:37. | :02:41. | |
it with War Horse. Then they said they were going to do | :02:42. | :02:43. | |
it with puppets, and I thought, Puppets, the First World War, | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
how is that going to work?" So I did not have faith | :02:48. | :02:51. | |
until I saw the puppets, and in fact I saw a giraffe | :02:52. | :02:53. | |
which these Handsspring Puppets people had made, walking | :02:54. | :02:56. | |
across a studio floor, I was thinking, excuse me, | :02:57. | :02:58. | |
this is not even a real giraffe, Somehow, it was so extraordinarily | :02:59. | :03:02. | |
moving, this kind of connection But even then, I still couldn't see | :03:03. | :03:07. | |
how they were going to weave And the rest, as they | :03:08. | :03:17. | |
say, is history. Let us take you back to the early | :03:18. | :03:20. | |
80s, when you wrote this book. I moved to Devon with my family, | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
and got to know people Among them were three old men, then, | :03:25. | :03:32. | |
who had been alive at the time And I got talking to them, | :03:33. | :03:37. | |
and one of them told me one day The conversation went on and on, | :03:38. | :03:43. | |
and it then became a monologue, and it was about his time | :03:44. | :03:49. | |
in the First World War. It was fascinating for me, | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
because of course I had, like so many, I had read my | :03:53. | :03:55. | |
First World War poets, I had been brought up | :03:56. | :03:57. | |
on all that stuff. But here I was, sitting | :03:58. | :04:03. | |
across the fire side at my local pub, talking to someone who had | :04:04. | :04:06. | |
actually been there. I was just blown away, | :04:07. | :04:08. | |
is the modern expression, I think, by, I suppose, | :04:09. | :04:11. | |
the simplicity of what he said, the seriousness of what he said, | :04:12. | :04:14. | |
the cruelty of it all. The futility, as | :04:15. | :04:18. | |
Wilfred Owen put it. I just went home and I could think | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
of nothing else and could any of nothing else, and then rang up | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
the Imperial War Museum and asked many horses had gone | :04:28. | :04:30. | |
to the First World War. They said about a million from these | :04:31. | :04:33. | |
shores, and I said how Because I had already had the idea | :04:34. | :04:36. | |
in the pub of writing this story I absolutely wanted this to be | :04:37. | :04:42. | |
a story of thes First World War told through the eyes of a neutral | :04:43. | :04:50. | |
observer, connected to the British, connected to the Germans, | :04:51. | :04:53. | |
connected to the French and Belgians over whose land the war | :04:54. | :04:56. | |
had been fought. I thought that was the way to tell | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
it anew, and also to bring it to young people, so they could have | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
some kind of way of being introduced Because it's easy to forget, | :05:03. | :05:06. | |
isn't it, that when the book first came out it wasn't reviewed very | :05:07. | :05:16. | |
widely, and when it was, No, it took The National Theatre | :05:17. | :05:19. | |
to come along, and 25 years later for goodness sake, | :05:20. | :05:24. | |
and that is because it suited what Tom Morris | :05:25. | :05:27. | |
at The National Theatre was looking for, which was a story which had | :05:28. | :05:30. | |
at its heart an animal, so that he could use both the great | :05:31. | :05:33. | |
stage at The National Theatre and Handspring Puppets - | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
and they're wonderful puppets - I don't know what to call it - | :05:39. | :05:41. | |
a play, a musical, a show. It's a theatrical | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
phenomenon, really. He and Marianne Elliott | :05:47. | :05:47. | |
and Nick Hytner, they wove This was one of your earliest books, | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
you have written dozens since then. How comfortable do you feel | :05:53. | :05:58. | |
with the fact that this is the book For goodness sake, to be defined | :05:59. | :06:01. | |
by a book, it's as good as anything. Actually, so many of the books | :06:02. | :06:10. | |
that we know and love and we grow up with - you know, Wind | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
in the Willows, you have to think twice before you remember who wrote | :06:17. | :06:19. | |
it, do you know what I mean? All right, I know, | :06:20. | :06:22. | |
but you do have to think. That's what really counts | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
and it is the book. What's really lovely | :06:27. | :06:31. | |
is there have been other books. This is my wife's favourite book, | :06:32. | :06:33. | |
and that irks me, because she always said it was good, and her favourite, | :06:34. | :06:36. | |
and she still says it's the best book I have written, | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
and that is some 80 books later. Apart from that, it is just | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
wonderfully lucky it Your wife's favourite book, | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
is it your favourite book? No, the sequel of it, | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
which is called Farm Boy, It's much shorter, it's more | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
intense, and it's about what happens to the horse when the horse, Joey, | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
comes back to the farm at the end It's set on the farm where live, | :07:03. | :07:06. | |
as indeed is War Horse, but I don't know, I was more | :07:07. | :07:14. | |
connected to the countryside then and to farming and the way of life, | :07:15. | :07:17. | |
and so I wrote it, I think, I mean, I like War Horse, | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
don't get me wrong, but there have But if you were to go back to it, | :07:22. | :07:25. | |
Michael, would you change it? You know, it's not holy writ - | :07:26. | :07:32. | |
a story is a story is a story. What's good is I think | :07:33. | :07:38. | |
I got it almost right, and what I love about a play, | :07:39. | :07:40. | |
and indeed I love about a film and a concert is the way it shines | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
a new light on the story and tells it differently, and | :07:45. | :07:47. | |
that is fine by me. I wouldn't want anyone to sort | :07:48. | :07:49. | |
of trim it down by 20,000 words and just keep in the best bits | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
about the horse, no. War is a recurring theme | :07:54. | :07:55. | |
in your novels, why is that a subject that you return | :07:56. | :07:59. | |
to time and time again? Well, writers have to write | :08:00. | :08:02. | |
about what they care about, what they know about, | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
what they feel they understand. All my books about war are finally | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
about our longing for peace If there is a message, | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
which I'am not trying to do, I'm trying to tell a story, | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
but the message inside me is the shaking of the hand | :08:19. | :08:21. | |
between the German soldier and the Tommy soldier in no-man's | :08:22. | :08:24. | |
land in War Horse. It's about people coming together, | :08:25. | :08:27. | |
and out of the ashes of war, Michael Morpurgo, it's been lovely | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
to talk to you, thank you. A lad of dry weather in the week | :08:31. | :08:52. | |
ahead and it | :08:53. | :08:53. |