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My guest today is one of the world's most popular crime writers, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
the rather aptly named Karin Slaughter. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
After finding fame with her first novel Blindsighted, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
she's gone on to sell more than 35 million copies of her books, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
including the Will Trent and Grant County series. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
Her latest book is called The Good Daughter. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
It focuses on two sisters whose family is torn apart | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
after a terrifying attack on their home, which leaves | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
their mother dead and both of them damaged in very different ways. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
Years later, the horrors of the past return. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:38 | |
Karin Slaughter, The Good Daughter links to deadly events, | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
this terrifying attack on the family, and then 28 years | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
later, a shooting in a school, as seen through the eyes | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
of two sisters, Sam and Charlie. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
Why was this the story you wanted to tell? | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
About two years ago, I was writing notes about different characters, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
because that is what I do. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
It always starts with character for me. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
The character of Gamma came to me. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
I had this great line, or I thought it was a great line about her, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
that I used in the book. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
It said she was as pale as an envelope and just | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
as likely to cause tiny cuts in inconvenient places. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
So that note was in my shower actually, I've got a waterproof | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
notebook because I'm such a nerd! | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
I clean my shower, but it's there in my shower. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
I thought about it for a couple of years every time | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
I was in the shower, and the story started | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
to gel in my head. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:53 | |
I had this choice between writing a new Will Trent book or writing | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
this, and I thought that Will Trent story isn't where I wanted to be | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
in my head right now. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
But these characters just really kind of came to me | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
and begged to be talked about. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
We should explain that Gamma is the mother of the two sisters, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
and they don't always see eye to eye, do they? | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
Their relationship is quite fractious. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
I know you were the youngest of three sisters, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
I wonder how much your relationship informed the relationship we read | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
about in the book. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:23 | |
You know, I think with writers, it is probably the same with | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
news presenters and interviewers, you know, everything in your life | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
informs how you approach the work. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
Of course, being the youngest of three girls, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
I knew about sister relationships, and the thing I love is, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
when I'm around my sisters, it's like I'm 12 years old again. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
I'm thinking of things I can tattle on that they've done, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
and even if my sister comes to my house, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
she'll make lunch for me and cut the crust off my sandwich! | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
We just fall back into those patterns. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
We really just still see each other as those kids. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
Sometimes I'm almost afraid she's going to hit me | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
with a clothes hanger or something. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
I like writing about those relationships, because I think | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
who we are as children really informs who we are as adults. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
The opening chapter of the book in particular, is very, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
very violent, and I wonder, do you set out to | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
shock your readers? | 0:03:12 | 0:03:17 | |
A long time ago a reader said to me why do you spend so much time | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
on character development if you're just going to kill them? | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
And I said, you wouldn't care, right, you wouldn't care | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
if they died if you didn't care about the characters. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
Every single person in this book has to have some sort | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
of resonance for the reader, and I work very carefully. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
I think that's sometimes why people think I'm more | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
violent than I actually am, because they very much care | 0:03:35 | 0:03:43 | |
about who this victim is, and what it does to the family, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
the community, and everyone involved in the investigation. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
And that's really important to me because I don't | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
want to write about violence just for the sake of violence. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
I don't want to just be someone who wants to shock. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
I want to have it happen for a reason, and the reason | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
is always to explore, what does crime do to communities? | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
How does it tear people apart? | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
How does it put them back together? | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
It's interesting that you mentioned community because one of the things | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
that struck me about the novel is the sense of place. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
It's set in this small, rural conservative community, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
Pikeville, where everybody knows each other's business. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
Is that similar to the sort of place you grew up in? | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
It is. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
When I first started writing my Grant County series | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
a million years ago, I chose to write about a small town | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
because everybody said, "write what you know." | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
And I know small towns. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
I know that insularity, and the thing is though, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
you don't really know the people. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
You think you know them but then something shocking happens | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
and you really learn about who they are. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
That's the fun of writing a book like this. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
I know you said growing up you didn't think you fitted in. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
I wondered why that was? | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
You know, I just didn't. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:55 | |
I remember very specifically, because I found the actual lunchbox | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
that I carried to school years ago, and I had taped a picture | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
of Marilyn Monroe after the autopsy on to the side of my lunchbox, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
and I remember this had an immediate effect in school | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
and my parents were called to the school. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
My dad was sitting there and the principal was saying, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
"This is very unusual that she's done this | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
and we are a little bit worried." | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
My dad said, "Look, she's weird, she's always been weird." | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
You say you were weird, you were always writing | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
as a child, weren't you? | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
Am I right that you wrote a story if cats had thumbs, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
about a man who had lost his thumbs in a boating accident? | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
How old were you when you wrote that story? | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
You know, I think I was 14. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:42 | |
Right. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
And I had this great teacher, an English teacher, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
who introduced me to Flannery O'Connor. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
As this little girl growing up in a small Southern town. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
There were a lot of messages we got like, always sit | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
with your legs crossed, and don't be too loud, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
let the boys talk, and don't let them know how smart you are. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
Don't be interested in things that are not ladylike. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
Then I read Flannery O'Connor and I thought, wow, this | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
is the pattern I want to follow, someone who speaks their mind, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:12 | |
and more importantly, as a writer, who writes the way people talk. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
The colloquial language in there was very much like my family | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
and everybody around me. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:19 | |
It just gave me this understanding that women | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
can talk about these things, and you should really tell | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
the story you want to tell. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
I really took that message home with me, and this was my homage | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
to O'Connor when I wrote that. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
Of course, she probably didn't imagine a man without thumbs, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
but it was my way of doing it. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
You have been writing since you were a child, as I said, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
you wanted to be a writer, but you got diverted into doing other jobs. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
Why was that? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:53 | |
You know, when I graduated high school, and was going to college, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
my dad said to me, actually on my graduation day, he said, | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
"You know, I'm so proud of you. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
You can do anything you want but you can't live at home." | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
Financial independence was his main goal, which I think | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
is a laudable thing for a parent to want their kid to be successful. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
So I was an exterminator, I painted houses. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:17 | |
Hold on, an exterminator, of what? | 0:07:17 | 0:07:18 | |
Of insects. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
So you did these other jobs, and then you decide to take | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
the plunge and become a writer full-time? | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
How did that happen? | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
It didn't really happen that way. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
I never thought I could call myself an author until I was published. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
All along, even through these jobs I was writing, working on stories, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
sending stuff to agents, trying to get something in | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
a magazine or something like that. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
And it took probably eight years. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
I had the goal that I wanted to be published by the time | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
I was 30, and it came at 29, so I was right under that. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
It was really a struggle and trying to find my voice | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
actually is what it took, just writing really bad stories | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
before I could write the good ones. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:04 | |
What made you decide it was thrillers and crime thrillers | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
in particular that you wanted to write? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
I think really if you are a writer it kind of chooses you, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
what kind of stories you're going to tell. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
My first book I got with my agent was actually historical fiction. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
I grew up in Georgia, I was a woman, I thought I had to write | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
the next Gone With The Wind. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
Even that, it had a lot of crime in it for | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
a Southern historical fiction novel. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:29 | |
No one wanted to publish it. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
I asked my agent, what should I do now, and she said I think you should | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
write whatever you want to write. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
I stopped thinking I had to write a certain way and I really embraced | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
what I loved reading which was thrillers. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:48 | |
So final question, is Karin Slaughter your real name? | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
It is. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
I got beaten up in school a lot for it so I think I have earned it. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
Karin Slaughter, great to talk to you, many thanks. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
Thank you. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 |