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need not fear, he will be setting out on a tour of the UK. Strong | :00:00. | 3:59:59 | |
wires, I hope! There isn't a single full | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
stop in Mike McCormack's The story is a monologue that reads | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
like a string of thoughts, sometimes poetic, sometimes | :00:07. | :00:10. | |
rough, often disturbing. And they tell us about one man | :00:11. | :00:13. | |
in one hour, on one day, His hopes and his disappointments, | :00:14. | :00:16. | |
his fears and loves. A character is revealed, | :00:17. | :00:23. | |
and so is the world This is a adventurous storytelling | :00:24. | :00:26. | |
by a master craftsman. It's quite a bold thing to do, | :00:27. | :00:32. | |
to write a novel of more than 250 It is, but you write the books that | :00:33. | :00:55. | |
present themselves to you, and that's the way the book, | :00:56. | :01:02. | |
the way Solar Bones You mean in its content, | :01:03. | :01:04. | |
in the thoughts that you were dealing with, | :01:05. | :01:09. | |
and not as a conscious It just seemed that was the way | :01:10. | :01:11. | |
you should write it down? Very early on in the composition | :01:12. | :01:15. | |
of the book, I realised that the narrator was the sort | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
of person he was, and that he would speak | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
in a continuous rolling rhythm. And once I had got that in my mind, | :01:23. | :01:26. | |
it became second nature. And it recalled in it one | :01:27. | :01:33. | |
of the exercises I had set myself years ago as a writer, | :01:34. | :01:36. | |
to come in every morning and sit down at my desk and write whatever | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
it was that came into my head. And the only strictures I put | :01:41. | :01:47. | |
on it was that it had to transition neatly from what I had done the day | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
before and that it had And so when I realised the book | :01:51. | :01:53. | |
was going to be written in a continuous ongoing rhythm, | :01:54. | :01:59. | |
I recalled that exercise. There is a natural feeling, I think, | :02:00. | :02:03. | |
most readers will have, of a kind It would be hard to think that | :02:04. | :02:07. | |
you didn't have Joyce somewhere in your head when you were producing | :02:08. | :02:13. | |
a book of this kind. People have spoken about the book | :02:14. | :02:19. | |
as a stream-of-consciousness novel, It doesn't have that kind | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
of telegraphic staccato rhythms that you associate | :02:24. | :02:30. | |
with stream of consciousness. It's much more an attempt to write | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
something continuous, However, as an Irish writer, | :02:37. | :02:38. | |
I've always been conscious of the fact that our great writers | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
are experimental writers, I've always admired their | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
recklessness and courage, So I would like as a writer | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
to think that you had a part of that yourself, | :02:51. | :02:56. | |
so that was where I took my... And of course, you're writing not | :02:57. | :03:00. | |
just about an individual whose thoughts are happy and sad | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
and confused, and sometimes crystal clear, and whose | :03:06. | :03:09. | |
emotions are laid bare. And you are writing about a feeling | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
of a country coming out of, really, an economic catastrophe which has | :03:13. | :03:20. | |
impacted on people's lives in a very direct way, | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
so it's a very contemporary novel I didn't set out to write a novel | :03:25. | :03:27. | |
of the crash, or post-crash. Basically, what I set out to do | :03:28. | :03:36. | |
was to capture the mind and life of this one | :03:37. | :03:39. | |
man, this engineer. And as an engineer, | :03:40. | :03:43. | |
as a civil engineer, that puts him at a nexus of a whole | :03:44. | :03:45. | |
series of forces, politics, economics, all sorts of social | :03:46. | :03:49. | |
movements and everything like that. Even civic catastrophes, | :03:50. | :03:56. | |
like contamination of water The allure for me about Marcus | :03:57. | :03:59. | |
Conway is that he's an engineer, God gave us heaven and earth | :04:00. | :04:04. | |
and then He hands it over to engineers, and engineers make | :04:05. | :04:10. | |
the world, and I was interested in seeing this man, who has this | :04:11. | :04:13. | |
complete involvement with the world So that was what I found | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
attractive about him. Well, you talk about | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
the engineering, you also dropped in God there, | :04:24. | :04:25. | |
and of course the book unfolds on All Souls' Day, | :04:26. | :04:28. | |
the idea that there are these souls It begins with the tolling | :04:29. | :04:34. | |
of the Angelus bell, and that bell seems to toll right | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
through the book. I mean, you talk of its rhythmic | :04:40. | :04:41. | |
character and the way it rolls on, and I suppose the sound of that | :04:42. | :04:45. | |
as a kind of call to prayer, it really goes right | :04:46. | :04:50. | |
through the book from beginning The book is an hour | :04:51. | :04:52. | |
long and it's suspended One is the divine marker at 12:00 | :04:53. | :04:55. | |
and the other is the temporal marker for the 1:00 news at 1:00, | :04:56. | :05:02. | |
so the book is spanned between... It's an hour long but in | :05:03. | :05:11. | |
that hour he gets... He's inundated with a cascade | :05:12. | :05:14. | |
of memories of his whole life. He's a soul who's susceptible | :05:15. | :05:18. | |
to that kind of thing. And he himself remarks about that | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
hour in the middle of the day. He always found it a soft, | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
strange hour, in which the morning's best energies are gone and it's too | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
early to sit down for the dinner, and the 1:00 news hasn't happened | :05:29. | :05:34. | |
yet, so it's betwixt and between, and it seems to be susceptible | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
to people like him. There's a fatalism running | :05:39. | :05:41. | |
through the book too, a sense that things aren't random, | :05:42. | :05:43. | |
that they appear And he talks about putting one foot | :05:44. | :05:46. | |
in front of the other We're doomed to go through this | :05:47. | :05:52. | |
journey in a very deliberate Is a nobility in itself | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
and a heroism in itself, The book is a hymn to the everyday | :05:57. | :06:06. | |
in many senses, and it's a hymn to a world that he has put his faith | :06:07. | :06:13. | |
in, not only has he built, I think the longer I've dwelt on it | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
after I've written it, the more it has kind of revealed | :06:18. | :06:22. | |
itself to me as a book about faith. He went looking for God | :06:23. | :06:25. | |
at an early stage in his life, and God effectively gave him two | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
fingers and told him to go away And he turned from God | :06:29. | :06:31. | |
and he became an engineer. And as his son says, | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
his son puts it, he says, "You turned from the cross | :06:37. | :06:39. | |
and you took up the theodolite, You laid that on the | :06:40. | :06:42. | |
world and that." So it's a book about faith | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
and a book about the everyday. It's a hymn to engineers | :06:48. | :06:55. | |
and engineering. You talk about the experimental | :06:56. | :06:57. | |
tradition in so much Irish writing. And that sort of heartbeat | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
in his dramatic prose is the kind The heartbeat and the idea | :07:01. | :07:10. | |
of a pulse was very much a concern with me in the book, | :07:11. | :07:25. | |
and I don't know whether I managed to capture it or not, | :07:26. | :07:29. | |
but it was certainly one Of course, being steeped in Beckett | :07:30. | :07:31. | |
as well, you assimilate these things by osmosis, | :07:32. | :07:36. | |
and they become a part of your fabric as a writer, | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
as an Irish writer. You talk about being | :07:40. | :07:45. | |
an Irish writer. Do you ever find that it's a bit | :07:46. | :07:48. | |
weighty and a bit imprisoning? I've always considered myself | :07:49. | :07:56. | |
to be an Irish writer, whatever that means, | :07:57. | :08:01. | |
but for me it meant tapping into that reckless and generous | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
tradition of experiment that Our greatest writers | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
were unusual, I think, in that our greatest writers, | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
our greatest fiction writers are exclusively our | :08:15. | :08:17. | |
experimental writers. Beckett and Joyce and Flann O'Brien, | :08:18. | :08:20. | |
the father, son and holy ghost, And if you're talking | :08:21. | :08:25. | |
about any other writers, you've lowered your eyesight, | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
you've lowered your So I wanted to take my cue | :08:30. | :08:31. | |
from their experimental tradition, and did it tentatively | :08:32. | :08:39. | |
in Notes From A Coma, my prayer novel, but I think grabbed | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
it a bit more two-handedly in Solar Mike McCormack, thank you very much | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
for talking about Solar Bones. A decent enough day across most of | :08:49. | :09:10. | |
the UK today. We have a bit of rain in the forecast a night, mostly | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
across northern areas, and it has been raining in Northern Ireland, | :09:15. | :09:16. | |
Scotland, the Lake | :09:17. | :09:17. |