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in some centres may come as a shock
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Now it's time for Meet the Author. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
This week on Meet the Author Jim
Naughtie talks with the writer MC | 0:00:04 | 0:00:04 | |
Sergeant Hamish Macbeth lives
in a sleepy place, Lochdubh, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
in the Highlands where you might
think there's not much drama. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
But 33 books on, he's
investigating yet another murder | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
in Death of an Honest Man. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:22 | |
Yet, in MC Beaton's novels,
even when dastardly | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
happenings are all around you,
the pace of life in Lochdubh, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
with its regular cast of characters
never seems to change. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
These are crime stories that
are written to be reassuring. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
Welcome. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
What do you think Hamish
Macbeth's secret is? | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
I think... | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
What fascinates people is he's
totally unambitious. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:01 | |
And what I try to do, you see,
I think of myself more as an escape | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
artist than a writer,
is give someone something | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
to take their mind off the troubles
or a wet day or a journey. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
And it's based on a crofter that
I still know up near Buey, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:18 | |
and he would say, "Just fed the hens
and I'm going to see my | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
cousin in Hong Kong." | 0:01:22 | 0:01:23 | |
And very laid-back. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
Fascinating. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:26 | |
Yes, it is interesting. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
Of course, he doesn't
want to leave Lochdubh, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
which is a lovely place,
although terrible | 0:01:31 | 0:01:32 | |
things keep happening. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
And he's terrified. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
Inspector Blair, who keeps
interfering with him | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
and his activities, is always
a threat on the horizon | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
but all he wants to do is stay
with his own folk in the village | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
and that's a very reassuring thing
to readers, isn't it? | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
Yes, it is. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:50 | |
It observes the unity,
keeping it all in a small place, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
and justice seen to be done. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
I admit it's rather old-fashioned
because it can't be high-tech. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
The forensic lab's usually off
playing shinty or drunk. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
But it's reassuring to know that it
will all come all right in the end. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:10 | |
I like stories with happy endings. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
You do, clearly. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
And there is also a great calm
in the way that you write. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
There's no sense of hurry
or frenzy, even when awful | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
things are happening. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
There will be a moment of violence,
we're not going to give away | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
the plot because that would be
a terrible thing to do, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
but there is a placid
quality to the whole thing. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
That's really what you're
aiming to do, isn't it? | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
It is. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:36 | |
Comfort reading. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
When I had a hip operation in Paris,
I sent my sister up to WHSmith | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
on the Rue de Rivoli to buy as many
Agatha Christies as she | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
could put her hands on. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
Because that is also... | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
The between the wars detective
stories which I love, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
it portrays a world,
a small world, where | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
there is always a squire,
and there's the strawberries | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
and the tennis parties. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
It was a world of the very
small privileged few. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
Of course. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
But there's also something
about these stories that | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
will remind some people,
I suppose, of something | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
like the Father Brown stories,
where nothing much seems to happen. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
It's a very gentle, unfolding
of a story but it has a kind of... | 0:03:13 | 0:03:22 | |
You know, simple elegance
to it, just as a tail. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:29 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:30 | |
People often think because it's very
easy to read, it must be easy | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
to write but I only do one draft,
and I've a friend in Paris who said, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
"You've got a very good
literary background, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
"why don't you write something... | 0:03:39 | 0:03:40 | |
"Different?" | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
He meant better, you know? | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
I said but that's the best I can do. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
You can't cheat the reader. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:51 | |
It's the very best I can do. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:52 | |
If it comes out frivolous... | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
You have to check you don't use
the same word twice, | 0:03:54 | 0:04:03 | |
and you lay it on layers. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
A lot of people do confuse good
writing, powerful writing, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
emotionally charged writing
with complexity, you | 0:04:07 | 0:04:16 | |
you know, with invention,
with changes in form. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
You're saying, no, no,
you can do it like that if you want | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
but you can also do it just
by writing good, old, plain English. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
Yes. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:26 | |
Also, an editor way back wondered
why Agatha hadn't been published, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
for example, in this country. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:33 | |
And I said they want the dark side,
and I don't too dark. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
You know, I don't do torture. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
And anything with children
being hurt, I run a mile. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
So, nobody gets electrodes and
the ghoulies in my books, you know. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
Maybe not, but they do get murdered. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
The title of this,
Death of an Honest Man, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
sort of gives it away. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:50 | |
Somebody is killed in the village. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
It's always someone
who deserves to be killed. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
There's nothing worse than people
who tell it like it is. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
I speak as I find which means
they don't care about your feelings. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:04 | |
When people say he tells it
like it is, they usually mean | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
he tells it like it isn't. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:08 | |
Yes, exactly! | 0:05:08 | 0:05:09 | |
That's the truth, isn't it? | 0:05:09 | 0:05:10 | |
Absolutely. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
You've got to get people to accept
the absurd promise a bit | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
You've got to get people to accept
the absurd premise a bit | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
like Midsomer Murders on television,
where you have a village, and, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
indeed Miss Marple's
village in Christie, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
you mentioned, where every other
day there is a murder. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
Now, we know this doesn't happen. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
It just doesn't. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:29 | |
It's fantasy. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:30 | |
It's complete fantasy. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:31 | |
There's been one murder
in Sutherland the past 100 years. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
I make up for it. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
Yeah, you've certainly
made up for it. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
Now, what kind of guy
is Hamish Macbeth? | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
He is, as you say, unambitious. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
There he is, with his shock
of ginger hair, he knows | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
everybody in the village... | 0:05:46 | 0:05:47 | |
Oh, not ginger. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:48 | |
Red. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:49 | |
Right, red hair. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
And he, obviously, knows
everybody in the village. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
What keeps him going? | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
He loves the laid-back life. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
He is lazy. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:02 | |
He's unambitious. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
He's intuitive. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
A lot of the highlanders have sort
of rudimentary telepath if. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
A lot of the highlanders have sort
of rudimentary telepathy. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
You have to be polite
inside as well as out. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
Well, people talk about having extra
powers and, you know, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
all the rest of it,
in the Highlands, and stories | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
about these things. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:22 | |
Do you believe there
is something lurking about? | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
Instinctively they seem to know
what you're thinking. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
It's rather unnerving. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
He has that quality and also just
a general love of the land. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:35 | |
Geography shapes people, you see. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:41 | |
They said would I ever move
Agatha Raisin to the Highlands? | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
No. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:45 | |
The other series, yes. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:46 | |
It wouldn't fit in. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:47 | |
It would be ridiculous. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
You obviously love the Highlands. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
Yes, my mother was Highland. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:50 | |
When we lived in
Glasgow, she used... | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
She believed in fairies. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:53 | |
She used to put a dish
of milk for fairies. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
In Glasgow? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:56 | |
In Glasgow. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
And the hedgehog drank it
but we didn't like to | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
destroy her illusions. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
Well, she knew it was an illusion,
presumably but just kept it going. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
Oh, no! | 0:07:08 | 0:07:09 | |
Oh, no? | 0:07:09 | 0:07:10 | |
No! | 0:07:10 | 0:07:11 | |
No, there's nothing madder
than some type of Highlander! | 0:07:11 | 0:07:19 | |
You're writing about a world that
you don't want to see go, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
and you don't want to destroy,
you don't want to... | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
Have to experience
too much turbulence. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
You just want it to be described
understood and absorbed. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
Yes. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:34 | |
And a bit of kindness. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
A little bit of decency underneath,
which is considered old fashioned, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
except Alexander McCall Smith has
brought it back into fashion. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
I read one of his Isabel Dalhousies
and I thought, this is... | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
And then I got addicted to them. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
Yes, well, addiction seems to have
happened to Hamish Macbeth. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
Will he continue? | 0:07:53 | 0:07:54 | |
Will there be more? | 0:07:54 | 0:07:55 | |
Well, I'm contracted for two more. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
I'll try to retire. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
I said to my agent, I want fun. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
And I went on a Hebridean cruise,
you know, the very expensive one? | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
What a waste of money. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:08 | |
Everyone was so nice. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:09 | |
There was no one I wanted to kill. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
Yeah. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
It would have been nicer
if there'd been a murder, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
then you could have... | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
Not a murder, just
someone obnoxious. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:19 | |
I mean, the Orient express
was marvellous for obnoxiousness | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
but there was no one there. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
They were just
absolutely marvellous. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
Waste of space, so I decided
to go back to work. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
Back, more writing? | 0:08:29 | 0:08:30 | |
More writing. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
MC Beaton, author of Death
of an Honest Man and 33 books | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
featuring Sergeant Hamish Macbeth,
thank you very much. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
Thank you very much
indeed for asking me. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:44 |