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Sophie Kinsella's new novel is called my My Not So Perfect Life, | :00:07. | :00:09. | |
It's about a woman in her 20s who leads an apparently | :00:10. | :00:14. | |
glamorous life in London, although the truth is much more | :00:15. | :00:16. | |
prosaic, and has to move back home to the country when she is sacked, | :00:17. | :00:19. | |
But the life she finds there is not quite what she expected. | :00:20. | :00:25. | |
Sophie Kinsella has written a string of worldwide bestsellers, | :00:26. | :00:27. | |
including the Confessions of a Shopaholic series, | :00:28. | :00:30. | |
And if you are wondering - well, she does not mind | :00:31. | :00:36. | |
the term "chick-lit", but she much prefers what one book | :00:37. | :00:38. | |
You are talking in the book, introducing us | :00:39. | :01:00. | |
Do you think that that is the truth about the way that people live these | :01:01. | :01:08. | |
I think that all of us are suckered into projecting the perfect life. | :01:09. | :01:17. | |
I think that social media has not helped this tendency. | :01:18. | :01:19. | |
You know, back in the day you would have your portrait | :01:20. | :01:24. | |
But I think my forebears would have aimed to look as rich and prosperous | :01:25. | :01:32. | |
and happy and wonderful as they possibly could. | :01:33. | :01:37. | |
Then, the portrait would be hung on the wall and you could go | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
I think now what we do is constantly throw out portraits of ourselves | :01:41. | :01:45. | |
through social media, and also through our professional | :01:46. | :01:47. | |
Although we know that it is invented, we sort | :01:48. | :01:52. | |
This book seems very much of the moment, in that this | :01:53. | :01:59. | |
picture which is built up, say, on Instagram, | :02:00. | :02:01. | |
which really is a construction which is quite fake. | :02:02. | :02:11. | |
She goes back and lives in a little one room place, | :02:12. | :02:14. | |
although when she is out and about, she looks quite glamorous. | :02:15. | :02:16. | |
This really is a bit of a problem for us, not for us all, | :02:17. | :02:20. | |
I mean, social media has exploded, certainly in my lifetime, | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
from not existing to almost being a planet that we have | :02:27. | :02:28. | |
We have colonised it and had to make it work for us as humans and I think | :02:29. | :02:37. | |
it brings out the best and the worst. | :02:38. | :02:39. | |
I love the connection but this measuring and judging is not good. | :02:40. | :02:45. | |
You write about women with particular feeling, | :02:46. | :02:46. | |
not just women, but particularly for young girls, teenage | :02:47. | :02:48. | |
The world that they are introduced to, you talk about measuring, | :02:49. | :02:56. | |
Whether it is how you look, your sexual experience, whatever - | :02:57. | :03:00. | |
it is the sort of thing where, in your young life and my young | :03:01. | :03:03. | |
Absolutely didn't exist, you had your own teenage struggles. | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
Perhaps you would tell your diary about them, | :03:08. | :03:09. | |
We spent a lot of time with one person, whose | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
voice you could hear, by the way. | :03:13. | :03:14. | |
As humans, we respond to so many signals. | :03:15. | :03:16. | |
And on social media, there is a barrier. | :03:17. | :03:22. | |
There is a visual construct and this wretched "liking" which everyone | :03:23. | :03:25. | |
becomes addicted to, and a validation that we have | :03:26. | :03:27. | |
It can only lead to addictive reliance on it. | :03:28. | :03:36. | |
We should not give the idea that the book is a meditation | :03:37. | :03:39. | |
When you get an idea like that, does it gnaw | :03:40. | :03:48. | |
away at you until you've written the book? | :03:49. | :03:51. | |
Yeah, I think that I go around the world with a sort of radar. | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
So, when I see people shopping too much, that goes in. | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
And when I see people projecting lives and feeling anxious | :04:01. | :04:02. | |
because they are not living up to some sort of measure of success, | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
But what I try to do, as you say, I try to make people laugh, | :04:06. | :04:11. | |
whip over the pages, see what is coming next. | :04:12. | :04:17. | |
It's not a thesis, the thesis is sort of there between the jokes. | :04:18. | :04:21. | |
What do you think you have got that makes you a good storyteller? | :04:22. | :04:26. | |
I think from what my readers say, they relate to my characters. | :04:27. | :04:29. | |
They sort of see themselves in the characters, they see | :04:30. | :04:32. | |
But what I do is push it to the nth degree, | :04:33. | :04:42. | |
whether it is getting into ridiculous situations. | :04:43. | :04:44. | |
I love a bit of farce, silly situations, and | :04:45. | :04:47. | |
But you start off with somebody that you relate to. | :04:48. | :04:57. | |
It is the old story, isn't it, that if the reader doesn't care | :04:58. | :05:04. | |
about the character, not necessarily total affection, | :05:05. | :05:08. | |
but does not care in the sense that is not interested in... | :05:09. | :05:11. | |
You can have an antiheroine, but you need someone | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
All of my Sophie Kinsella novels I have written in the first person. | :05:17. | :05:23. | |
What is the advantage of writing in the first person? | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
I find an instant intimacy with the character. | :05:29. | :05:34. | |
I know these characters so well, and I did used to write | :05:35. | :05:37. | |
There was a slight level of detachment. | :05:38. | :05:43. | |
I live these plots, and actually my husband can tell | :05:44. | :05:50. | |
when things are going badly for my character, | :05:51. | :05:52. | |
You know, it is quite an emotional journey. | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
And when you're in the throes of a story, once you have got | :05:57. | :05:59. | |
the idea, you think that you are there as a character who has | :06:00. | :06:02. | |
I spend quite a lot of time working things out, turning points | :06:03. | :06:14. | |
Also working out what I want to say, because you can have an idea | :06:15. | :06:20. | |
for a story but you're not sure what you are trying | :06:21. | :06:22. | |
What do you want to say about the world? | :06:23. | :06:29. | |
I think all of my books want to say, look at us, we are human! | :06:30. | :06:33. | |
Look at the pickles we get ourselves into... | :06:34. | :06:36. | |
And, by the way, we are all like this, but never mind. | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
Are you one of those writers who goes around either literally | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
with a notebook in the pocket, where you scribble down things. | :06:47. | :06:49. | |
Or, at least a notebook in your head, and you spot somebody | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
in a coffee shop or somewhere and go right, I've got her...? | :06:54. | :06:56. | |
I do, and I think I do it all the time. | :06:57. | :06:59. | |
I never have the right person for the right chapter. | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
If I could go to a coffee shop and find the right character | :07:05. | :07:07. | |
and put them in now, that would be very handy. | :07:08. | :07:10. | |
But you store them up, or store up a little facet | :07:11. | :07:14. | |
of something you've heard, and it comes back to you later. | :07:15. | :07:17. | |
Do you think about your readers when you are doing this? | :07:18. | :07:20. | |
You have a vast army of readers out there, | :07:21. | :07:28. | |
do you ever think about them and what they want? | :07:29. | :07:30. | |
I connect with them, and when I meet them, | :07:31. | :07:32. | |
interestingly it is the same wherever I go. | :07:33. | :07:34. | |
What do they ask you, what kind of questions do they ask? | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
They want to know what is happening next with my characters. | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
I know that they love to laugh, but to be honest, I don't visualise | :07:42. | :07:44. | |
So I write the book that would please me as a reader. | :07:45. | :07:50. | |
I love a plot, some comedy and something to think about. | :07:51. | :07:54. | |
Well, I sometimes think, you know what? | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
No, I haven't, I haven't done the gut-wrenching tragedy | :08:00. | :08:05. | |
So far I've not been ballsy enough to do it. | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
Sophie Kinsella, thank you very much. | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
The winds have caused a bit of a storm. There have been power outages | :08:16. | :08:35. | |
on the West of the UK. Tomorrow's developing | :08:36. | :08:37. |