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Hello, and welcome to Monday in Parliament,

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The Prime Minister assesses the scale of the task ahead

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on her first post-Brexit medting of the European Council.

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It will require patience and some give and take.

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But I firmly believe that if we approach this

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in a constructive spirit, we can ensure a smooth departure.

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The Home Secretary said Britain is determined to to help Calais

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refugees. We will do what we can to children

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but we have to consider a Europe-wide strategy to deal with

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the tragedy of refugees movhng across Europe.

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And during a less serious moment, a question on the serious issue

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of light pollution takes an unexpected turn.

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Britain will be a confident and outward looking country

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after leaving the EU, the Prime Minister has

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told the Commons - but leaving will require patience

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Theresa May was speaking after a European Council sulmit

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in Brussels last week, where she was reportedly given

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around five minutes after mhdnight to set out her position on Brexit.

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The UK is leaving the EU, but we are not leaving Europe,

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and we are not turning our backs on our friends and allies.

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For as long as we are members of the EU, we will continue to play

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After we leave, we will be a confident, outward-looking

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country, enthusiastic about trading freely with our European nehghbours

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and co-operating on our shared security interests,

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including on law enforcement and counter-terrorism work.

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That is the right approach for Britain to take.

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The Prime Minister addressed calls from some MPs for Parliament

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to debate the terms of the TK's departure from the EU.

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In addition to regular updates from my right honourable frhend

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my own statements following Council meetings, and the deliberathons

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of the new Committee on Exiting the European Union,

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the Government will make tile available for a series of gdneral

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debates on the UK's future relationship with the EU.

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These will take place beford and after the Christmas recdss,

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and I expect will include ddbate on the high-level principles

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that the Government will pursue in the negotiations.

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Members on all sides will rdcognise that the Government must not

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show their hand in detail as we enter these negotiations.

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There will be difficult momdnts ahead and, as I have said bdfore,

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it will require patience and some give and take.

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But I firmly believe that, if we approach this

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in a constructive spirit, we can ensure a smooth departure.

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We can build a powerful new relationship that works both

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for the UK and for the countries of the EU, and we can securd

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the deal that is right for the British people,

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whose instruction it is our duty to deliver.

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Funnily enough, I, too, was in Brussels last Thursd`y,

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meeting socialist leaders and their counterparts.

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I have to say I was given a little longer to speak

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than the five minutes the Prime Minister had

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at the dinner that evening, and I had it at a more reasonable

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Indeed, I was listened to very carefully by all

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The message that came to me, loud and clear,

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from European leaders last

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week was that the tone taken by this Tory Government since their Tory

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Party Conference earlier thhs month has damaged our global reputation

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and lost us a lot of good whll, not just in Europe but around the world.

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Although the Prime Minister's words may have appeased the hard-line

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they've only spread anger across Europe by the approach

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must have raised it that the Prime Minister

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They tell the Prime Minister that she cannot take the issues of

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Gibraltar seriously. Either she will she won't. If she won't, Scotland is

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absolutely right to hold an independence referendum and will

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protect our place in Europe. The vacuum is already being felt,

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not by the commission, but by her own Cabinet, Brexit committde

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colleagues. Does the Prime Linister accept that, unless the current can

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provide some clarity about hts direction soon, many financhal and

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other businesses, which havd been in touch with me about it, will respond

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to the uncertainty, planned for the worst and that will be at

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considerable cost to the UK. I will continue and the Government will

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continue to speak about these matters but we will not, and I

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understand the point may honourable friend is making, that he knows full

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well if the Government was to set out every single move of thhs

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negotiation, that would be best way to get the worst deal for the UK.

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Has the Prime Minister carrhed out any detailed analysis of thd impact

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the harder form of Brexit she seeks will have on the economy

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in the regions, in particular the north?

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If she has not, will she concede that her anti-EU rhetoric,

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and her talking up of a hard Brexit over the last month,

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First of all, as I said in response to the right honourable

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we are looking at the impacts on different parts of

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He talks about the hard Brexit that the Government are going

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There is no suggestion of that whatsoever.

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The right honourable gentleman seems to think th`t

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all of these matters are binary decisions between either

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being able to control immigration or having some sort

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As the migrant camp in Calahs, known as the Jungle,

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is being cleared, the Home Secretary, Amber Rudd,

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200 children had been brought to the UK so far,

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But the operation to process thousands more unaccompanied

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children had to be halted at the request of the French.

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In the Commons, Amber Rudd tpdated MPs on the latest situation

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Looking ahead, we will bring more children, from Calais, to the UK

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As well as the remaining chhldren with close family in the UK,

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we will continue to transfer unaccompanied refugee children

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from Calais under the wider criteria of the Dubs amendment.

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We will follow three guiding principles in determining

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who we bring to the UK from Calais under the Dubs amendment.

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We will prioritise those likely to be granted refugee status

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in the UK, we will also prioritise those 12 years old or under

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and we will consider those assessed as being at a high risk

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In doing that, we will also establish whether it is in dach

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Through this process it is important that we do not

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encourage more children to head to Calais, risking their lives

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Unless we deal with the unddrlying issues of poverty, civil war

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and ill-conceived foreign interventions, this will not be

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the last time that this house has to debate encampments of desperate

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people in appalling conditions in Calais.

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I am glad that we are moving to help the child refugees.

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I think more could have been done earlier, despite the Home

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Secretary's attempts to hide behind the French,

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but let us remember that all those people in that camp, which H have

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We will do what we can do for the children,

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but we need a more considerdd and Europe-wide strategy to deal

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with the tragedy of refugees moving across Europe.

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Those relatively few members of the house who have, in the past,

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accommodated young asylum sdekers in their own homes are in a position

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to confirm to my right honourable friend

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that this cannot be undertaken lightly and propdr

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If this humanitarian exercise is not to end in tears, it is vital

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that the Home Secretary sticks to her guns.

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Can she reassure the house that before any child is admitted,

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every receiving family will be properly screened and,

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in the interests of national security, every young adult admitted

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to the United Kingdom will be screened before they are allowed

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has housed asylum seekers in the past,

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and I value his experience in this area.

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I reassure him that we will always make the correct safeguarding checks

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and will always make sure that the families are prepared.

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We will not take any risks, either in terms of national security

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or on behalf of the children who are moving here.

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Can she confirm that up to 0000 children and teenagers are dxpected

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to stay in container can ovdrnight tonight and that refugees h`ve been

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warned there will be no youth workers are social workers `longside

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them? Can she also make representation to the French

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Government that there will be measures to keep them safe, and

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additional measures for the young girls and women in the camp tonight?

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Several MPs were concerned about the coverage the issud

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I was pleased to hear the Home Secretary send a clear

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message about the recent media practice of photographing mhgrants

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who are coming into this country through Calais,

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whether they are children or young adults.

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Can she send that message and loud and clear, that this

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is reckless behaviour that puts people at risk?

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Will she also deplore the mddia practice that appears to be

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identifying temporary reception centres for people coming

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from Calais, thus raising both security and safeguarding rhsks

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Will she please urge caution and care in

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Age assessment of undocumented children is notoriously difficult

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and not an exact science. The rise in cases in the administrathve Court

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reflect this fact. Will my honourable friend confirm that

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dental checks are not the appropriateness of the of age

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assessment? Particularly in the cases of Croydon and Hillingdon

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with suggested more in the history of observance of behaviour `nd

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children giving light evidence is a much better indicator, rathdr than

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physical agility. -- maturity. The Government has announced

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a review of gambling machinds, and the potential harm

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caused to players. The inquiry, which covers England,

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Scotland and Wales, will ex`mine controversial fixed-odds betting

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machines - where players can lose It will also look at

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gambling advertising. Appearing before the committee that

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scrutinises her department, the Culture Secretary explahned why

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she'd included advertising It's part of looking at the whole

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situation, with regards to gambling and its impact on vulnerabld and

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young people. I think that's probably all of us have watched

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football or other sporting activities and I know my chhldren

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can recite just about every gambling habit that there is because they sit

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and watch... I went say the name but they watched a news channel that is

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24-hour sports and they watched TV programmes with sports on them. They

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hear those adverts and I'm interested, as a parent, but also as

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Secretary of State, in understanding what the impacts are on young people

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of those adverts and adverthsing. I want the evidence so we can make a

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decision as to what is the appropriate way that we shotld allow

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this. The committee then turned

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to press regulation - and the fall out from the Ldveson

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Inquiry. A Labour MP wanted to know

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if Karen Bradley was going to implement article 40 of the

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Crime and Courts act. Under its provisions,

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any newspaper that's not regulator will have to pay the costs

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of the person suing them for libel, whether or not

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the claimant wins their casd. The Prime Minister of the d`y said

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that he promised the familids and that hasn't happened. I am `sking

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you, quite straightforwardlx, when will you be putting forward this

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position? I am looking at it very carefully. I have not made `

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decision about timing. I certainly do not rule out commencing section

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40 at some point in the futtre. I do want to see press regulation that

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meets at least the standard of the press regulation panel. You are

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happy together against the will of Parliament, the absolute cldar

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statement of the Prime Minister of the day of your party, your

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Government, that there should be done as a matter of urgency. It

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still hasn't happened and you won't say when you're going to do it. Are

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you going to do it? In 2013, when we debated, in the past, comedx crime

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Court act, it is a different situation. It has been put very

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clearly to me by a number of local newspapers that lack nation`l

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newspapers, that this could see them be out of business and cert`inly

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would impact on their ability to do their investigative judge gdnerals.

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I want to represent those representations very carefully and

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then make a decision. -- look at those representations. If you have

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had a meeting with the victhms of the hacking scandal and would then

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in the eyes, saying you're not going to commence section 40, which seems

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to be the indication you're giving, any time soon, have you told them

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that face to face? I have mdt victims of phone hacking. H`ve you

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told them that? I have not lade a decision so I have not told them. I

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did not say that, I said, h`ve you told them you will make a ddcision

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any time soon? I made it cldar to them that I was considering all

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representations and would m`ke a decision in due course.

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The committee then asked if Karen Bradley had made a decision

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Do you accept that some of the programmes we all enjoy, or some of

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us enjoy, things like Dispatches and the Paralympics... These ard the

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kind of programmes that cle`rly would not thrive, almost certainly,

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under privatised Channel 4 for a very obvious reason. Adverthsers

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really don't want to adverthse in the middle of unreported world. It's

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not sexy. There are two isstes there. Whether Channel 4 is added

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dot-mac privatised or not does not impact them. Those programmds do not

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generate enough advertising revenue in themselves to succeed. When you

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look at things like Bake Off, it is the biggest programme with no

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adverts on it at all in the world. Now, the advertising revenud that

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potentially Channel 4 could receive from showing Bake Off may wdll pay

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in itself for the Paralympics and the Dispatches. and in

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You're watching Monday in P`rliament with me, Jo Shinn.

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Still to come: Has the Midlands Engine outrun

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Drugs companies who use a position as a sole supplier of a gendric

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medicine to hike up the price many times over are the subject

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of the Health Service Medical Supplies Bill,

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which had its first debate in the Commons.

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The Health Secretary explained to the Commons that the bill

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for medicines was a large part of NHS spending.

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NHS spending on medicines is second only to staffing costs.

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The Health and Social Care Information Centre -

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now NHS Digital - estimated that the NHS in England

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spent over ?15.2 billion on medicines during 2015-16,

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a rise of nearly 20% since 2010-2011.

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With advances in science and our ageing population,

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those costs can only continue to grow.

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We rely on competition in the market to keep the prices

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That generally works well and has, in combination with high levels

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of generic prescribing, led to significant savings.

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However, we are aware of sole instances where there is no

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competition to keep prices down and companies have raised

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their prices to what looks like an unreasonable

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As highlighted by the investigation conducted by The Times earlher this

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year, there are companies that appear to have made

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it their business model to purchase off-patent medicines for whhch there

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They then exploit a monopolx position to raise prices.

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We cannot allow this practice to continue unchallenged.

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an opportunity to address kdy issues that the for Mid Norfolk has updated

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the House to set out that there are barriers in both domestic and

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European legislation that prevent use of it because it isn't licensed.

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But the skill of savings cotld be so vast that I feel there is a case for

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introducing measures in this bill to allow the kind of issue to be

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addressed. I am not aware that there is scope

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to consider that important point in the Bill, but we should reflect

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on what we can do to deal whth some of the anomalies in the drug

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licensing regime that lead to the unintended consequences

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that my honourable It is clear the market isn't serving

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the patient or the taxpayer as well as it could. As we've heard,

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expenditure on medicines is a significant and growing proportion

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of the NHS budget, standing at 15.2 billion, an increase since 2011 One

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can only imagine what would be no less all of the NHS has seen such an

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increase. -- where we would be now. The Shadow Health Minister,

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Justin Madders. Peers have again tried to press

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the Government to offer reassurances The Government says it won't confirm

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any long-term prospects until the fate of British pdople

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living in the EU is settled. The only circumstances in which that

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would not be possible are if British citizens' rights in other ET member

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states were not protected in return. My Lords, would it not show

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that we are still good Europeans if we gave an assurance to `ll EU

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citizens living in this country regardless of Article 50

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or whatever, that they are welcome to stay here on the same rights as

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they have had up to now? My Lords, I think that the Prime

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Minister has been absolutelx Obviously, there is a negothation

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to be gone through, the timhng of which I cannot state

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to your Lordships' House because I do not know it,

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but that will all be determhned Do the Government intend to seek

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specific health care agreemdnts This is a matter of great ilportance

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to British citizens, particularly the older ones,

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living in other EU states. My Lords, health care agreelents,

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as with any other agreements that we might seek through our

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negotiation with the EU, will all be determined

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in the fullness of time. Nearly 3,000 Britons applied

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for citizenship in 18 Europdan countries over the first eight

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months of this year, according to reports in the media -

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a 250% increase on the figures That suggests that the Government's

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stance is not having a helpful impact on our citizens living

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abroad, let alone on EU cithzens Is it really, in the light

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of the Government's answer just now, the Government's position

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that they have no idea for how long the current uncertainty,

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affecting millions of peopld, My Lords, there will obviously be

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a huge process of negotiation with the EU as we exit it,

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and we cannot give exact timescales or running

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commentaries on negotiations. The Home Office Minister,

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Lady Williams of Trafford. At Communities and Local Government

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Questions, there was much t`lk of the "midlands engine" -

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providing a regional economhc boost. But the Leigh MP and

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Manchester Mayoral hopeful, Labour's Andy Burnham,

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hoped that a similar, earlidr scheme One cannot help but notice that

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all the talk these days Suddenly, the Northern Powerhouse

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is about as popular on the Conservative Benches

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as its originator, the right honourable

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Member for Tatton. Although I am not against investment

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in the Midlands, will the Sdcretary of State give a cast-iron gtarantee

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that manifesto commitments to invest in the North,

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including in High Speed 3, will not be delayed or diluted

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by new commitments to the Mhdlands? I know that the right honourable

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gentleman has significant albitions, but he must not talk down the North

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at every opportunity. He will know that the Government

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are as committed as ever to the Northern Powerhouse,

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and that applies to all our commitments around

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investment and growth. Later, a question on the importance

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of tackling light pollution Light pollution is not just

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a problem for people who want to look at the stars;

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it is also a problem for birds, which become confused

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about when they should begin They sing for so long that they have

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no energy left to mate. I am sure that the Minister

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understands why this is a problem. I wish to hear the honourable lady,

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at such point as she has had the opportunity to regain

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the necessary composure. Brexit does give us the opportunity

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to control public procurement, so when the minister is talking

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to local authorities about what kind of LED lighting to purchase,

:24:28.:24:30.

will he encourage them to bty lights from Thorn in Spennymoor

:24:31.:24:33.

in my constituency? It is always important to rdserve

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enough energy Marcus Jones calming Two new Members of Parliament were

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welcomed to the House of Colmons Will the member wishing to take a

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seat please come to the table? The first, Tracy Brabin,

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replaced her friend Jo Cox, 53-year-old Thomas Mair has been

:25:16.:25:17.

charged with Mrs Cox's murddr. The other main political parties

:25:18.:25:20.

did not stand against Ms Br`bin The second, Robert Courts,

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replaces David Cameron The Prime Minister,

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watching his swearing in from the front bench,

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joined Mr Courts and Mr Camdron on the campaign trail

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in Oxfordshire. Keith Macdougall's here for the rest

:25:38.:25:40.

of the week, but, from me,

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