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Hello and welcome to Monday in Parliament, our look at the best

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of the day in the Commons and the Lords.

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Theresa May pledges to stick to her timetable for Brexit.

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When we trigger Article 50, we want to make sure the process is as

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smooth and orderly as possible. Opposition politicians at Stormont

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try unsuccessfully to remove the First Minister of Northern

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Ireland. I would call again on the First

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Minister, that the people of Northern Ireland first. This

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happened on your watch, First Minister. You need to go.

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Labour calls for action following the prison

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Shorter sentence prisoners are leaving prison with drug addictions

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they did not have when they went in. But first, the Prime Minister

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has repeated her pledge that the triggering of Article 50 -

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the legal means by which Britain starts to leave the EU -

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will be done by the end of March. Theresa May told MPs the deadline

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would remain in place even if the UK Supreme Court were to rule that

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Parliamentary approval was needed. The Prime Minister was reporting

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back to the Commons after last week's meeting

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of the European Council in Brussels. I am clear that the Government

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will respect the verdict But I am equally clear that

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whichever way the judgment goes, we will meet the timetable

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I have set out. At the Council, I also

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reaffirmed my commitment And in this spirit, I made it clear

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to the other EU leaders that it remains my objective

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that we give reassurance early on in the negotiations to EU

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citizens living in the UK and That their right to stay

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where they have made their homes Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn

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accused the Prime Minister of a contradictory approach

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to the Brexit negotiations. The mixed messages from her front

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bench only add to the confusion. This Government fails to speak

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for the whole country. Instead, we hear a babble of voices

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speaking for themselves For instance, Mr Speaker, last week,

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we were told by Britain's permanent representative to the EU that

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a Brexit deal might take ten years. That contradicted what the Secretary

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of State for Brexit told a select committee that day when he said that

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a deal could be There is a bit of

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a difference there. It is clear that on the

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international stage, the Prime Minister and Britain

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are becoming increasingly isolated. And if we are to build a successful

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Britain after Brexit, it is more vital than ever

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that our relationship with our with our European partners remains

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strong, cordial and respectful. He should look at his own front

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bench when he considers this matter. Let's take one very simple

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issue of immigration. The Shadow Home Secretary

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suggests freedom of movement The Shadow Chancellor said,

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we should have a fair deal The Shadow Brexit Secretary says

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we should have immigration controls. They cannot even agree on one aspect

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of the European Union, And what I know is that

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with the right honourable gentleman's negotiation techniques,

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if he was in office, we would sure as goodness be getting

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the worst possible deal we could get The Prime Minister's statement

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welcomed commitments on capability, Without going into details,

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for very obvious reasons, is the Prime Minister confident that

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enough safeguards are in place regarding democratic

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institutions in the UK, Did she discuss with fellow leaders

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interference by Russia in the political processes

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of Western democracies, including our own, using

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propaganda and cyber? What action is she taking

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to investigate what might have already happened in this country

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and what is she going to do to stop I say to the right honourable

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gentleman that I think everyone is aware of the way in which Russia

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is currently operating and the more aggressive stance Russia is taking

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across a whole range of aspects. Viewed from Moscow, Europe must look

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so much more disunited The fact of the matter is,

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we have 100,000 men and women What if tanks did roll

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across borders in this unstable Well, I have to say

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to the honourable gentleman, first of all, the Secretary of State

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for Defence has told me the actual figure was 200,000, not 100,000,

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that he is talking about. But let's look very seriously

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at the issues he's talked about. One of the things I said

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in my statement was the importance of Nato as the bedrock

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of our security and the And, of course, that is

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an organisation which is important What is this Government doing

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in relation to defence? Committing over ?170 billion over

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a number of years for investment The head of British Cycling's

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Team Sky, Sir Dave Brailsford, has told a committee of MPs that

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a package at the centre of an anti-doping investigation

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contained a legal decongestant. The parcel was delivered

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to the team's then lead rider, Sir Bradley Wiggins,

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an asthmatic, in the build-up The Culture, Media and Sport

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Committee had been authorised by the UK anti-doping authority,

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Ukad, to ask questions about the mystery jiffy bag,

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but the officials giving evidence In respect of the package,

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I am somewhat taken aback by the comments from Ukad,

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because we're working in We have been advised by them not

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to make any comments on that because it is their investigation,

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so, you know, we are caught out a little bit by that but we can come

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back to you with further But, for now, we are working under

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instructions with Ukad not All I can say is that

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that is in writing. You will see that it is

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from the chair, copying They could not be clearer

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that they welcome the opportunity that this evidence session brings

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for us to put questions to you and to Team Sky about this

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matter that is obviously part I appreciate that, but the point

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I would like to make is that we have not been part of the process,

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so we would need to read up on that to find out what the latest

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situation is around that. We're not prepared for that,

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as of this moment. Well, I mean, do you know

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what was in the package? I just find it extraordinary that no

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British senior cycling management figure knows

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what is in that package. But you have made that very

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clear, that you don't. But I was interested in the line

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that you gave Dr Gilbert about how And this pedal line seems

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to be going round a bit, because Simon Cope,

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who is the senior... Simon Cope, the senior official

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who flew out the jiffy bag, he also said that it might

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have been pedals. Pedals delivered to a doctor?

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I just find that odd. Would a senior official

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take out a jiffy bag But you're both saying pedals,

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so it is clearly a line that It is not a line.

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It is just an example. As we said before, the issue

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here is that we have not been able to ask any of those questions around

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what is in that package. Mr Cope says that he did not ask

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what was in the bag. Now, to pick up on a previous point,

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I think often these things come Now, I don't know anybody

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who would take a jiffy bag, fly it across international

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boundaries and not Unless he is a travel ingenue

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who has no experience of travel. Because if someone gives me a bag,

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I know when I check in the first thing I am going to be asked is,

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what is in the bag? I agree entirely with your

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reasoning, but that is something Has Dr Freeman told

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to what was in the package? Yes, he told me what was

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in the package, yes. Are you able to tell us

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what was in the package? Well, if this letter allows me to do

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so, then I would be more than happy This letter does, in which case,

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we would love to know. Well, Dr Freeman told me

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that it was Fluimucil It is a product which is for

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a nebuliser, and that was It seems extraordinary that

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for a drug that is not banned and there are no restrictions

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on its use, that the easiest way to get hold of that drug was to get

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someone at British Cycling to fly it from Manchester to Geneva and then

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hire a car and drive it If that was the sole purpose

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of someone flying out, then, yes, it would seem to be a little bit

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of an extreme step. The fact of the matter is that

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someone was flying out anyway. And what we have, on a very regular

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basis, as I am sure some of my colleagues might have

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explained this morning, is that, as a team, you know,

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I have just come back from York after two weeks of training,

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and people have been coming With people moving,

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if you need anything, you phone them up and say,

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actually, can you make sure that X has got whatever product it might be

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and can you bring that with you? So I think it might be

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where this whole situation has been slightly misled,

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that the sole purpose of the visit was not expressly to bring

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and deliver a package. Labour say the riot that took

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place at the Winson Green is evidence the Government has

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lost its grip on jails The privately-run jail

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in the Midlands was on lockdown all day on Friday with 240 inmates

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apparently running riot, It was described as the worst prison

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disturbance since the siege at the Strangeways jail

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in Manchester 26 years ago. In the Commons, the Shadow Justice

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Secretary called for urgent action from Government

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following the series of recent First, the Justice

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Secretary updated MPs. I have ordered a full investigation

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and appointed Sarah Payne, adviser to the independent chief

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inspector of probation, a former director of

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the Welsh Prison Service, Levels of violence are too

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high in our prisons. We also have very concerning levels

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of self-harm and ethics in custody. That is why we are reforming

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our prisons to be safe and purposeful places,

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and taking swift action to deal It is important to remember

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that these problems have developed over a number of years and it

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will take time and concerted effort We are increasing staffing

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levels by 2,500 officers and we are taking steps to train

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and retain our valued staff. This includes a new apprenticeship

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programme, a graduate entry scheme, fast-track promotions

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and retention payments. And we are putting an extra

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?100 million into this. We are modernising our estate

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with a ?1.3 billion And we are empowering governors

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to manage their regimes locally, to get people off drugs,

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get them the skills that they need This is a failure to protect

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society. Privatisation of the Probation

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Service, savage cuts to prison staffing, overcrowding

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in our business, cuts to through the gates services

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all stop prison working. And put the public at avoidable

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and increased risk. The Secretary of State should admit

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that in her overcrowded, understaffed prisons,

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shorter sentence prisoners are leaving prison with drug

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addictions that they did not have when they went in and are leaving

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more likely to commit than the crimes they were put away

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for in first place. This is not protecting society,

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it is endangering society. You're watching our round-up of the

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day in the Commons and the Lords. The First Minister of

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Northern Ireland survives "Just when you thought the foreign

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aid farce couldn't get any worse." That was the headline above another

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tabloid press report on how aid money from the UK

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is allegedly being spent. The report claimed an all-female pop

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group dubbed "Ethiopia's Spice Girls" had received ?5.2 million

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in British foreign aid. When the International Development

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Secretary came to the committee that monitors her department,

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the issue was taken up by a Conservative

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member of the committee. says you wish to build a diverse,

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resilient and effective civil society in the developing world.

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What aspect of the Ethiopian girl band does that fit into? What I want

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to start on is, I think it is fair to say, obviously, when it comes to

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a country like Ethiopian. Ethiopia is a hugely con challenge country

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and I've no doubt many mothers have been to Ethiopia and seen some of

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the enormous challenges around civil society, governance and the ability

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to develop. Alongside that, there are many issues relating to

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violence, women, rights of individuals that need support, need

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addressing and clearly the programme which you are referring to is one

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component of that. It's just one component of a wider matrix of not

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just our investment but international investment in

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Ethiopia, in that rights space. They appreciate what you've just said and

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I have been to Addis Ababa. I've seen women carrying eucalyptus

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punches don't very steep hills in order to sell them for firewood.

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There is a lot of poverty there. Do you not believe the money going from

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our department could be better spent. Secretary of State, I've

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known you for many years, your blood must have been boiling when you read

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that story. Don't you believe the Department's money could be more

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effectively spent on women in Ethiopia that in a way that is being

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currently being spent? UK aid in Ethiopia is frankly combating forced

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child marriage, violence, teen pregnancies. All those big issues.

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We are doing a range of work there. That is just one programme, one

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project. You looking at the programme now? It is fair to say all

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programmes are under review. This programme is now under review? I

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spoke to the team on Friday myself so the in country team and the

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Africa team, to make sure the programme is doing what it should be

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doing and it is actually doing substantial work when it comes to

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combating the issues I've highlighted.

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Now to Belfast, because the Northern Ireland First Minister,

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Arlene Foster, has survived an attempt to no confidence her

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The motion had been put forward by opposition parties

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following a row over a flawed heating scheme known as RHI.

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It's believed problems with how the scheme was run could lead

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to Northern Ireland taxpayers having to find ?400 million.

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The Northern Ireland Auditor General said the heating scheme had "serious

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Facing the no confidence motion inside the Northern Ireland Assembly

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chamber, the First Minister defended her role.

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At no point was any recommendation made to need to introduce cost

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control measures. Far from it. I was being told we needed to increase,

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not decrease the take-up of the scheme. Although the opposition did

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not want to hear it and didn't want to hear it or they would have been

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in the chamber Ilia, the simple fact remains that at no time during my

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tenure was I warned there could be an overspend. I of course accept

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responsibility for the work of the department put the charge that I did

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not observe the highest standards of probity and regularity is completely

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and totally baseless. The public expect a shoe on this issue. They

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want an apology. Action to mitigate liability to the public purse. And

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to see those who that were responsible to be accountable. This

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happened on your watch, under your leadership. You need to go. Until

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the scandal has been investigated, I support the motion. We committed

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that we would be a constructive opposition, that we would support

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government where we believed it was acting in the best interests of the

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people. Today, it is not acting in the best interests of the people of

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Northern Ireland. It is failing them massively. I would call again on the

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First Minister, but the people of Northern Ireland first, as you have

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said you will do, even at this late stage. Voluntarily stepped down from

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your role. Allow your colleague to step in. This motion is a

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disgraceful attempt, nothing short, a disgraceful attempt by failed

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party to create the impression that the First Minister has failed to

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observe the highest standards of propriety and regularity in relation

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to the stewardship of public funds. But you know, they haven't produced

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a scintilla of evidence or facts, not one. Let's get back to the crux

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of this issue, credibility, integrity. Arlene Foster needs to

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step aside. We've made it clear. Apparently because it was London

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money it was OK to squander is really breath taking. Whether it

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comes from London Brussels Washington or Belfast, somebody and

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that money and paid it in. All taxpayers are entitled to know that

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their money is being fairly spelt. What we have today is the actions of

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a lynch mob because here we have the First Minister who has come before

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this house and there is not any evidence whatsoever against terror

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at this point but we have a demand that she moves away, that she cannot

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do her job. Well, under the power-sharing

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rules in the Assembly, the DUP was able to exercise a veto

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to block the no confidence motion. And so Arlene Foster continues

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as Northern Ireland First Minister. The Lib Dem winner of the recent

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by-election in Richmond in West London has made her maiden

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speech in the Commons. Sarah Olney was contributing

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to a general Commons debate on how She said collaboration

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with Britain's European neighbours Evidence and instinct both suggest

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that collaboration with our nearest neighbours benefit our trade, our

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education, our environment, our security and our individual

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well-being. Such benefits should not be carelessly thrown aside without a

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careful, sober and detailed examination of what the consequences

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will be. The impact of Brexit will be wide-ranging and not just

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financial. In my constituency, how hospital relies on the hard work and

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dedication of migrants from Europe. Many of my constituents work in

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financial services which rely on our privileged position inside Europe.

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Many of our businesses import from under export to the European Union

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and rely on the tariff free access and the harmonised standards of the

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single market for their success. Meanwhile, a Labour member

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of the House of Lords has suggested that money being spent

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on the process of exiting the EU should be used instead on solving

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the problems in funding the care Lord Foulkes was one of a series

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of Labour peers to challenge a Trade Minister at Lords Question

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Time. First, a Lib Dem peer noted that six

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months have now elapsed since the people's decision on 23rd

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June to leave the EU. Exactly six months this week since

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the referendum and we still are awaiting a clear position from the

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government on its stance on a customs union and also was the Lords

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committee report this past week specifically asked for which was

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urgent clarification on the legal position of one the UK could start

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negotiating legal commitments, whether it could be while we are

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discussed terms or after it. When will the government provide that

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legal clarification which doesn't have too great. We are very clear on

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the position. We are clear that why we are members of the EU, we cannot

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negotiate no sign free-trade agreements but we can have an

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exploratory discussions which we are doing at the moment. I've listened

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carefully. I'm still not clear what the government's position is. Mr

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Fox's briefing that WTO arrangements would be satisfactory. Mr Hammond

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recently said the WTO option would not be the most favoured outcome.

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Which is it? Can he say precisely? The government is still working

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towards its position for Article 50. It takes in views from all sides. We

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have 20 different select committee reports coming to the government in

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January alone. I visited 29 countries over the course of the

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last four months. I've spoken to 200 businesses, over 2000

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businesspeople. What I would say is that we are open to listening to all

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parts of the debate. Are any precedents for being part in and

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part of the customs union? I am aware that Turkey has arrangements

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whereby agricultural goods and food products are excluded from the goods

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position but it doesn't include services. Isn't it becoming

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increasingly clear, day by day, week by week, that Nigel Farage, Michael

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Gove and to be fair, Jesus Jewett, have got us into an unholy mess? We

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don't know where we are on trade, on movement of labour, indeed on

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anything. Wouldn't the money, the billions of pounds that we are

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spending trying to organise this Brexit be better spent sorting the

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crisis in social care? The people of the UK were very clear when they

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voted on the 23rd of June. Harping back does none of us any good. It

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doesn't do the United Kingdom any good. We need to move forward, we

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need to move forward united Lee and we need to get the best deal for the

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United Kingdom. Can we move forward if Cabinet ministers are putting

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forward different points of view? I was brought up to understand that

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government speaks with one voice. Surely these arguments should be

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kept within the Cabinet instead of being vented publicly? I come from

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the world of business and what we believe in is having boards which

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have different experiences and can express different views. , noble

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friend say... And that's it for this programme,

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but do join us for our For now, from me,

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Kristiina Cooper, goodbye.

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