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Tonight, Israel saw him as a top terrorist, today killed the Hamas | :00:13. | :00:19. | |
military leader. After further strikes in Gaza tonight, civilian | :00:19. | :00:22. | |
deaths and blood curdling promises of retaliation, could the | :00:22. | :00:25. | |
assassination of Ahmed al-Jabari, lead to an even more bloody | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
conflict in the Middle East. Also tonight, strikes across Europe, | :00:29. | :00:32. | |
hundreds of thousands of workers take to the streets to protest at | :00:32. | :00:36. | |
austerity and cuts. In Spain, rubber bullets and | :00:36. | :00:40. | |
teargas, fired at protestors in central Madrid, temperatures | :00:40. | :00:45. | |
inflamed by the evictions of those losing their homes. Here at home, a | :00:45. | :00:50. | |
ray of sunshine, as unemployment is down again, sag flaigs might be | :00:50. | :00:54. | |
coming back. Stagnant growth, -- stagflation, might be coming back, | :00:54. | :01:00. | |
stag grant growth and higher inflation. We will discuss this | :01:00. | :01:03. | |
with economist, protestors and politician. The soldier, the | :01:03. | :01:08. | |
secrets and the sex scandal the, all America is talking about, | :01:08. | :01:14. | |
General Petraeus pet talks to Newsnight. I'm under no illusion | :01:14. | :01:19. | |
that he knew it was the right decision that he personally had to | :01:19. | :01:23. | |
take. Tomorrow sees a by-election in a seat, which for 30 years has | :01:23. | :01:28. | |
predicted the British political weather, Corby. How do you go about | :01:28. | :01:32. | |
replacing Louise Mensch. You are not going to start writing chicklit | :01:32. | :01:40. | |
books, Have I Got News To You? No connection to heavy rock bands? | :01:40. | :01:46. | |
20 years older than Louise, and I wouldn't know what to do with a | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
rock star if I found one. Good evening. There is no doubt | :01:50. | :01:52. | |
that Ahmed al-Jabari was a big player in the struggle between the | :01:52. | :01:58. | |
Palestinians and Israel. He was the military commander of Hamas in Gaza. | :01:58. | :02:05. | |
A man described bit Israeli Defence Forces as someone with blood on his | :02:05. | :02:12. | |
hands the IDF assassinated him, and strikes across the country have | :02:12. | :02:17. | |
followed. Israel has said only the start of an operation to hit | :02:17. | :02:19. | |
militant groups. NATO strikes have been launched tonight. In Egypt, | :02:19. | :02:26. | |
the first country to sign a peace treaty with Israel, and now under | :02:26. | :02:31. | |
the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood. Mohamed Morsi | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
immediately recalled Cairo's ambassador. What does the killing | :02:33. | :02:38. | |
of Ahmed al-Jabari tell us about the new and explosive geography of | :02:38. | :02:44. | |
the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. What happened here? I have to show | :02:44. | :02:49. | |
you rather graphic images. This is the scene in Gaza City today, | :02:50. | :02:56. | |
immediately after the destruction by Israel. This is the Carrying | :02:56. | :03:00. | |
Ahmed al-Jabari, the Hamas military chief, and one other Hamas official, | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
they were killed. As far as Israel is concerned this is a highly | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
successful operation against a man responsible for many missile | :03:07. | :03:12. | |
attacks against Israel. Also responsible for Hamas's links with | :03:12. | :03:22. | |
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the main military backer, Hamas. The Israeli army res -- released | :03:24. | :03:29. | |
this film which shows the car being tracked and hit. His body was taken | :03:29. | :03:34. | |
to hospital, followed soon afterby some very young casualties of other | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
naval and air strikes. At the end of the day, Gaza's health ministry | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
said that a further nine people had been killed, at least in various | :03:42. | :03:45. | |
strikes. But, of course, we expect that number to rise. | :03:45. | :03:50. | |
What do you make of the timing of this? Well, Israel's killed many | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
Hamas military commanders over the years, including one senior | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
commander, who was suffocated in a hotel in Dubai two years ago. But, | :03:59. | :04:04. | |
this is the most senior target since 2004. There is no doubt, I | :04:04. | :04:09. | |
think, this is linked to a rather sudden upsurge in missile attacks | :04:10. | :04:15. | |
from Gaza into Israel, particularly in the last couple of weeks. Indeed | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
110 rocket attacks since Saturday. What the Prime Minister, Binyamin | :04:19. | :04:24. | |
Nethanyahu, said, is we have to give a clear signal against Hamas. | :04:24. | :04:31. | |
And also in other strikes, the main aim was to try to reduce or get rid | :04:31. | :04:36. | |
of Hamas's stockpile of rockets. Those are the Iranian rockets that | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
can go rather further and target main population centres in Israel. | :04:40. | :04:45. | |
There has been a lot of rhetoric after this attack today. Does the | :04:45. | :04:50. | |
conflict seem, now, likely to escalate? What Mr Nethanyahu said | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
today was that if necessary the operation, Israelis operation | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
against Hamas, would be broadened. I spoke to the former head of | :04:59. | :05:05. | |
planning in the Israeli Defence Force, Giora Ireland, and asked | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
what that might mean. He said, this is only possible, he said it would | :05:09. | :05:14. | |
be logical to extend the attack, not only to strictly military Hamas | :05:14. | :05:18. | |
tarts, but also to Hamas infrastructure, to police stations, | :05:18. | :05:23. | |
to bridges, as a way of punishing Hamas. Hamas's reaction to this was | :05:23. | :05:28. | |
very predictable. It talked about opening the gates of hell against | :05:28. | :05:35. | |
Israel. And already today it has been reported that intercepted by | :05:35. | :05:40. | |
Israel's shield there have already been 13 Hamas rockets successfully | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
intercepted. I suppose what is also different is the whole political | :05:43. | :05:49. | |
context now, the Middle East has changed. Mohamed Morsi in Cairo, | :05:49. | :05:52. | |
Muslim Brotherhood, his political party, were saying Israel has to | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
get its head round the fact that things have changed? Absolutely, | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
this is a completely new landscape, this is the first conflict of this | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
kind between Hamas and Israel, since the Arab Spring, and since | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
the election of a Muslim Brotherhood Government in Egypt, by | :06:08. | :06:13. | |
ideolgical is at one with Hamas. Egypt very, very strongly of course, | :06:13. | :06:18. | |
has condemned this attack. I think it will remain principally at the | :06:18. | :06:22. | |
level of rhetoric. Because even the new Government in Egypt has | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
indicated very clearly it is committed to the peace treaty with | :06:25. | :06:31. | |
Israel and so on. The main danger is, Israel has very important | :06:31. | :06:36. | |
security co-operation with Egypt in the Sinai Peninsula, where we have | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
seen a big upsurge in terrorism, since the Egyptian revolution. For | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
both sides, they would really suffer if that co-operation was | :06:43. | :06:48. | |
curtailed. The other part of this political context is that within | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
Israel itself, where we are in a run up to an election, and as you | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
well know in the run up to the election the Prime Minister tends | :06:55. | :06:59. | |
to want to look tough on security? Certainly, because of the missile | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
attacks on Israeli towns and village, there has been even more | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
annual a big, big demand in Israel for action against Hamas, and | :07:07. | :07:12. | |
certainly that is what Binyamin Nethanyahu was responding to. Right | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
across the boar, in Israel, at -- board, in Israel, at least to begin | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
with, this will be welcomed. Certainly it will do Mr Nethanyahu | :07:21. | :07:27. | |
absolutely no harm at all in the elections in January. | :07:27. | :07:33. | |
Daniel Ayalon, the Israeli deputy minister joins me now. What do you | :07:33. | :07:38. | |
think that Israel has achieved by killing Ahmed al-Jabari? We have to | :07:38. | :07:45. | |
remember that Ahmed al-Jabari was the Bin Laden of Hamas. He has many, | :07:45. | :07:51. | |
many innocent lives on his head. The fact that he was overseeing the | :07:51. | :07:57. | |
new attacks on Israel for the last two week, by actually taking him it | :07:57. | :08:02. | |
is not only self-defence, it is a classic self-defence, and hopefully | :08:02. | :08:11. | |
a message and prevention and preefplive -- pre-emptiveness for | :08:11. | :08:17. | |
the future. There is no way to reason with the terrorists, but by | :08:17. | :08:20. | |
defending yourself in a way where they won't be able to operate again. | :08:20. | :08:27. | |
You have in the past killed Hamas founder Yassin and his successor, | :08:27. | :08:34. | |
you have killed previous military commanders, and while you have | :08:34. | :08:37. | |
successively removed one enemy of Israel today, you have probably | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
created a whole lot of other one. There will be a successor to this | :08:41. | :08:50. | |
man? Well, I would beg to differ. We did what we had to do in killing | :08:50. | :09:00. | |
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the head of terror. We did achieve deterrence. We gave Gaza entirely | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
to the Palestinians, we left Gaza all together in 2005, seven years | :09:07. | :09:14. | |
ago. Since then, instead of having a responsible part, taking | :09:14. | :09:19. | |
responsibility and managing the lives in Gaza and negotiating with | :09:19. | :09:26. | |
us on peace and reconciliation, we saw, actually, that ham maz was | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
emboldened, getting -- Hamas was emboldened getting an Arsenal of | :09:30. | :09:34. | |
terror, long range missiles, and terrorising more than one million | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
Israeli civilians in the population on the southern border and southern | :09:38. | :09:44. | |
parts of Israel. What we see now. Picking up on the point of | :09:44. | :09:47. | |
civilians, there were civilians killed on the other side today, | :09:47. | :09:52. | |
would you like to apologise for those needless deaths? Anybody | :09:52. | :09:58. | |
innocent civilian who gets killed is deplorable, and I would | :09:58. | :10:04. | |
apologise for anything. We would not like to do that. But, I would | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
say that the responsibility for the death and the killing is of the | :10:08. | :10:13. | |
Hamas. Because what do they do? Not only do they target the civilian | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
population in Israel, but they plant themselves, implant | :10:16. | :10:20. | |
themselves in the midst of the civilian population in Gaza. In | :10:20. | :10:23. | |
fact, they use the Gaza population as a human shield for their hidious | :10:23. | :10:28. | |
attacks. We will leave it there. | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
Workers and students in more than 20 countries across the European | :10:31. | :10:36. | |
Union took part in strikes and protests today, to show their | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
disgust at cuts and austerity measures. As you might expect, the | :10:39. | :10:42. | |
largest protests were in those Mediterranean countries where the | :10:42. | :10:47. | |
budget axe is making the deepest impact. In the new Sick Man of | :10:47. | :10:51. | |
Europe, Spain has an even more emotional issue, some people are | :10:51. | :10:56. | |
being forced out of their homes in a wave of prepossessions and | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
evictions. We report on -- repossessions and evictions. We | :10:59. | :11:09. | |
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report on the human cost of the economic mess. | :11:09. | :11:14. | |
Again they came, from the factories, from the public sector, from their | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
homes. Some who marched in tonight's demonstration, were from | :11:18. | :11:22. | |
Spain's nearly six million unemployed. Some were pensioners. | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
This is the second general strike in Spain this year. They wanted to | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
protest against the Government's austerity, and to show their anger | :11:30. | :11:38. | |
at its effect on ordinary Spanish people. Here, in a suburb of Madrid | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
this morning, one family looked set to suffer the most extreme | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
consequence, losing their home. Inside this block were three | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
generations, six people on the brink of being evicted. The police | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
came, the bailiffs were there, protestors learned of it and | :11:54. | :11:59. | |
gathered. Earlier this week, Spanish banks had said the | :11:59. | :12:06. | |
evictions of the most needy people would be suspended. They had come | :12:06. | :12:11. | |
under pressure after two suicides linked to evictions and an outcry. | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
Today, perhaps because of the general strike, they haven't | :12:15. | :12:20. | |
arrived, so it is almost certain, although we will have to wait for a | :12:20. | :12:27. | |
while, that this eviction has not, will not be carried out. Then, | :12:27. | :12:33. | |
celebration. The official responsible for the eviction had | :12:33. | :12:40. | |
not turned up. The family were immensely relieved. TRANSLATION: | :12:40. | :12:47. | |
I'm really happy, she told me. And I'm nervous. But when I asked her | :12:47. | :12:57. | |
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what happens next? She had no idea? The bank could go back to court and | :13:00. | :13:05. | |
get a new eviction date. She's the only wage earner in her family now, | :13:05. | :13:10. | |
a cleaner, she can't pay the mortgage of 1300 euro every month. | :13:11. | :13:13. | |
They are celebrating a small victory in this Madrid | :13:13. | :13:17. | |
neighbourhood, but nobody knows what will happen next, not even the | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
lady herself, and nobody knows either whether this is to be the | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
pattern going forward, fewer evictions, fewer repossessions. If | :13:24. | :13:28. | |
so, what will be the consequences of that for Spanish banks, and for | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
Spain itself. Spain has to make its mortgage law | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
more lenient, to bring it into line with the rest of the EU. If there | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
is a freeze on evictions, some say, that could have an impact on the | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
banks. It will surely have an impact, because it will increase | :13:45. | :13:49. | |
the debt of the banks. But I don't think that's the worst problem the | :13:49. | :13:53. | |
banks have. So it will be just an added problem, and could be | :13:53. | :13:59. | |
properly solved. We then have to think that going on with the | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
evictions will also cause serious problems, not just in human terms, | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
or in social terms, but also in economic termsment we are talking | :14:06. | :14:10. | |
about now those evictions we are seeing now is people who lost their | :14:10. | :14:15. | |
jobs in 2009, because the law is very slow. This is just a gathering | :14:15. | :14:20. | |
storm, we will see it worse in the coming years. | :14:20. | :14:25. | |
Beatrice is a nurse, supporting today's strike, taking part in | :14:25. | :14:30. | |
tonight's march. In 10% of Spanish families now, both parents are out | :14:30. | :14:37. | |
of work. Even those with one income worry. Beatrice has finished her | :14:37. | :14:42. | |
temporary contract, her husband works in the often unpredictable | :14:42. | :14:49. | |
building industry. They are worried about the future. TRANSLATION: | :14:49. | :14:57. | |
any point you could lose your job, we could maybe stay afloat on | :14:57. | :15:00. | |
unemployment benefit and savings for a year at most. There will be a | :15:00. | :15:02. | |
moment where we have to choose between paying the mortgage and | :15:02. | :15:08. | |
eating, obviously I have a daughter and I have to feed her. | :15:08. | :15:11. | |
TRANSLATION: It is a difficult situation. The Government are | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
making it tougher for us, with two salaries, you really struggle to | :15:16. | :15:20. | |
pay your bills every month. If one of the salaries goes, it is even | :15:20. | :15:26. | |
worse. Unions claim the turnout today and | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
tonight has been strong, police estimates were far more modest, the | :15:29. | :15:33. | |
night is not over though. These demonstrations have been | :15:33. | :15:38. | |
taking place across the country, not just in Madrid, and police say | :15:38. | :15:42. | |
there have been over 100 arrests during the day. It is quite late | :15:42. | :15:46. | |
now in the capital, but some people still have an appetite for protest. | :15:46. | :15:52. | |
The main rally is over, they are on their way to another demonstration. | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
And their mood was defiant. They will do it again, this English | :15:56. | :16:01. | |
teacher told me. We have to go to the streets, we have to be a group | :16:01. | :16:07. | |
of people, not people individually, you know. We have to fight for our | :16:07. | :16:13. | |
rights. The Government says it will not change its policies. And the | :16:13. | :16:18. | |
country's current economic position leaves little room for manoeuvre. | :16:18. | :16:22. | |
More strikes, more protests, seem certain. | :16:22. | :16:28. | |
We have a PhD student and supporter of the demonstrations today, | :16:28. | :16:32. | |
Mariana Mazzucato is professor of economics at Sussex university, and | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
Jose Maria Beneyto is a spokesman for Spain's People's Party on | :16:36. | :16:38. | |
Spanish affairs. Was this another day of | :16:38. | :16:43. | |
demonstration in Spain, or have things changed? No, it wasn't just | :16:43. | :16:49. | |
a demonstration. First, it was the largest cord flated strike and | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
protest movement -- co-ordinated strike Europe has ever seen. It | :16:52. | :16:57. | |
shows the nature of change in protests. At the Spanish level, it | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
was the outcome of an increasing social unrest that has been | :17:02. | :17:05. | |
developing over the last year as people get to live the consequences | :17:05. | :17:12. | |
of the socialisation of the financial crisis. Evictions is that | :17:12. | :17:18. | |
part of it, you are losing your home, 350,000 people since 2008? | :17:18. | :17:25. | |
People are getting evicted from their own home by the very same | :17:25. | :17:29. | |
banks the taxes helped to bail out. The Government have been | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
controlling the interests of the financial sector and not the | :17:32. | :17:35. | |
interests of those they are meant to represent. You have an economic | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
crisis, you have a social crisis, now perhaps you have a public order | :17:39. | :17:46. | |
crisis? Well, I wouldn't dramatise too much the situation. Because, of | :17:46. | :17:53. | |
course, you know, the right to strike is granted by the | :17:53. | :17:57. | |
constitution, there were protest and demonstrations today, they were | :17:57. | :18:03. | |
very peaceful. There were also -- they were also limit the in their | :18:03. | :18:08. | |
skom. There has been an -- limited in their scope, there has also been | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
an expression of the people's feelings. But I wouldn't dramatise | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
it and say it is a general unrest in the country. When you have a | :18:16. | :18:20. | |
third of a million people over the past four years losing their homes. | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
You have somebody who apparently committed suicide as a result of | :18:23. | :18:29. | |
being evicted, things have changed in Spain? The person who committed | :18:29. | :18:34. | |
suicide was linked to an eviction, they were not directly evicted from | :18:34. | :18:41. | |
the house. Of course the situation is not easy. We have, as a | :18:41. | :18:48. | |
Government, we are in a position negotiated with a moratorium for | :18:48. | :18:52. | |
the extreme cases of need. We are fully aware of the situation of a | :18:52. | :18:57. | |
number of the Spanish citizens. Of course, you know, the course of | :18:57. | :19:03. | |
fiscal consolidation is not an easy path, but I don't think we have | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
another one. We need growth and jobs, but we need, particularly, | :19:07. | :19:13. | |
first, to tackle the problem of too much public expenditure of the past. | :19:13. | :19:18. | |
The years before. Let me bring in Mariana Mazzucato here. It's tough, | :19:18. | :19:22. | |
it's hard, is Spain on the right course, because, basically, in | :19:22. | :19:26. | |
slightly different ways, all of Europe is doing broadly the same | :19:26. | :19:30. | |
thing? I think it is absolutely on the wrong course. Because basically | :19:30. | :19:33. | |
what we are seeing are these massive cut, which are not creating | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
any gain. It is all pain with no gain. This is why we have these | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
demonstrations. So, in fact, Spain was a country that before the | :19:40. | :19:45. | |
crisis had quite a low deficit, 3- 4%, it is very hard to say that | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
Spain's problems today are because it was spending too much. Perhaps | :19:48. | :19:51. | |
it was spending in the wrong place, but for sure it was not the public | :19:51. | :19:55. | |
debt that was the problem. It was the private. Instead what we are | :19:55. | :19:59. | |
seeing is public sector wages are come down, public services are | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
being put, and this, of course, is hurting demand, as well as general | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
confidence in the economy. We don't have any investment. And we don't | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
really see the end, it will get worse. It will be a 50% | :20:09. | :20:14. | |
unemployment amongst the young. 25% for the whole economy, and this is | :20:14. | :20:20. | |
only getting worse. You are going a way of grief, in other words, which | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
is you are taking the pain, but the gains are not there? It has nothing | :20:23. | :20:30. | |
to do with the situation in Greece. I do not agree with what has just | :20:30. | :20:36. | |
been said. If you look into the figures, now Spain is having | :20:36. | :20:42. | |
positive data. We have increased enormously our exports, | :20:42. | :20:46. | |
productivity is increasing. It is not that we are in the path of | :20:46. | :20:50. | |
Greece. It is a completely different situation. What do you | :20:50. | :20:54. | |
think the Government should do, then, as suggested, broadly, | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
European Governments are practising austerity, one end to another, they | :20:57. | :21:05. | |
all seem to think it is working, in some ways, you have just heard the | :21:05. | :21:11. | |
argument for it? The situation is not working, and the Government is | :21:11. | :21:15. | |
hiding behind this narrative. There are plenty of other options to take, | :21:16. | :21:20. | |
they have chosen not to. instance? There has been | :21:20. | :21:25. | |
conversations on a whole range of measure, including taxes on | :21:25. | :21:29. | |
financial transactions, abolition of tax havens o at least | :21:29. | :21:34. | |
prohibiting to give Government contracts to those companies in the | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
tax havens, and not putting the bad on the most vulnerable. Many things | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
have been suggested, the Government is choosing to ignore them. What | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
would you be the alternative, broadly is that what was just | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
advocated? I would support those measure, with very interesting in | :21:49. | :21:59. | |
:21:59. | :22:01. | ||
Spain, and it differentiatates it from Greece. -- grease. They were | :22:01. | :22:04. | |
lead investors in wind and solar energy, that has all gone down here | :22:04. | :22:09. | |
since the crycy is, those kinds of investments in new technologies, | :22:09. | :22:12. | |
was positioning Spain to become what Germany is today. The real, I | :22:12. | :22:20. | |
think, problem right now, is unlike what we saw today, which is a co- | :22:20. | :22:26. | |
ordinated action by the European Trade Union's Confederation. We | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
don't have the same level of co- ordination in the European | :22:30. | :22:32. | |
Commission, in what all the countries should be doing to become | :22:33. | :22:37. | |
competitive like Germany. Germany is investing a lot in all sorts of | :22:37. | :22:40. | |
things, they have patient capital through a state investment bank, by | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
is funnelling resources directly to the companies who need it, as | :22:44. | :22:48. | |
opposed to always going indirectly via private banks, which is not | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
working. What do you fear might happen now, if this is the route | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
that Spain is going? Government's seriously doing its | :22:57. | :23:02. | |
best to sink the country as much as it can. All the measures they have | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
taken have produced this horrible human crisis. Now it is not a | :23:05. | :23:10. | |
financial crisis, it was a financial crisis had a has turned | :23:10. | :23:19. | |
into a social and human crisis. have produced a human crisis? | :23:19. | :23:22. | |
is certainly not the case. The human crisis comes from the fact | :23:22. | :23:28. | |
that we had a deficit of 9.4% last year. With a the previous | :23:28. | :23:31. | |
Government. -- with the previous Government. Our Government was | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
putting public expenditure to the top in Spanish history. This was | :23:35. | :23:41. | |
the real problem. You cannot find, as a country, with a 9.4% deficit | :23:41. | :23:45. | |
every year. This is the real issue that we have to tackle, first, and | :23:45. | :23:50. | |
then, of course, you need growth, and you need jobs. You need | :23:50. | :23:55. | |
measures in order to improve those two points as well. We're running | :23:55. | :23:56. | |
out of time, thank you all very much. | :23:57. | :24:04. | |
In the 1960s, the Conservative politician, Iain MacLeod coined the | :24:04. | :24:07. | |
phrase "stagflation" to describe low growth and rising inflation. | :24:07. | :24:09. | |
Today the Governor of the Bank of England talked of a long and | :24:09. | :24:12. | |
winding road to recovery, in which low growth is likely, and inflation | :24:13. | :24:17. | |
is a danger. But the latest figures continue to show one bright spot, | :24:17. | :24:22. | |
unemployment continues to fall. Not quite the old stagflation of the | :24:22. | :24:26. | |
60s. Economist, Howard Archer, has coined a new definition of what is | :24:26. | :24:30. | |
ahead, perhaps a DIRE decade, Disappointing Inflation, Rotten | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
Expansion. We have been trying to figure out where growth might come | :24:35. | :24:45. | |
:24:45. | :24:54. | ||
from, Gerard Lyons reports. These people are in fashion, they | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
call themselves the Bloomberg of the fashion sector. They are a | :24:57. | :25:01. | |
dotcom that started up three years ago and is now hiring one new | :25:01. | :25:04. | |
employee a month. There are two places in a month where you could | :25:04. | :25:08. | |
do a business like our's, either you New York or London, we looked | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
at New York or London, it seemed like the talent pools were fairly | :25:12. | :25:17. | |
equivalent. It seemed like the friction for doing business of | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
maybe a tiny bit lower in New York, but getting much better in London. | :25:21. | :25:24. | |
Also, critically, in the fashion industry, fashion moves faster in | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
London as well. It really seemed like London was the right place to | :25:27. | :25:34. | |
set up. There are already 300 start-ups in | :25:34. | :25:40. | |
tech city, nicknamed "sill conround about", and many wider in the East | :25:40. | :25:45. | |
London area. They could be the answer to the question, why is the | :25:45. | :25:52. | |
UK economy so weak, yet creating so many jobs. Unemployment has fallen | :25:52. | :25:57. | |
to 2.51 million people, or 7.8%, signal as robust labour market. The | :25:57. | :26:02. | |
number of people collecting jobseeker's allowance rose to 1.58 | :26:02. | :26:07. | |
million. The number of time work stands at a record of 8.1 million. | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
Temporary workers are also near record highs of 1.6 million. This | :26:11. | :26:15. | |
suggests the figure for those underemployed could be close to 10% | :26:15. | :26:20. | |
of the work force. I don't think one would say that the data release | :26:20. | :26:26. | |
this morning were weak. Some signs in the claimant count of a small | :26:26. | :26:33. | |
increase, that may -- maybe it is beginning to move. There were still | :26:33. | :26:38. | |
falls in unemployment, a rise in employment, a big increase in total | :26:38. | :26:42. | |
hours work. It is still a strong labour market. There is very little | :26:42. | :26:47. | |
unemployment in tech city, business is booming and it is creating a | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
virtueous circle, meaning its success attracts the best software | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
developers in Europe. They are not paid peanuts, most of the staff are | :26:55. | :27:02. | |
earned over �40,000 u and the average age is over 28. There are | :27:02. | :27:05. | |
hundreds of families barely surviving on the minimum wage. | :27:05. | :27:11. | |
Unemployment in some neighbourhoods is 40%. Campaign groups like London | :27:11. | :27:15. | |
Citizens, are hoping to place a thousand less well off people with | :27:15. | :27:19. | |
technology firms nearby. It is really hard to have two Londons in | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
such a small area, on the one side you have the rich, the other side | :27:22. | :27:27. | |
you have the really poor. You can see where the money is. And how | :27:27. | :27:30. | |
people just throw away money, literally. And then I'm coming to | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
work and working with families that are really struggling. There is | :27:35. | :27:39. | |
families that do not have the money, at all, to access to feed their | :27:39. | :27:43. | |
children. I'm having to find food vouchers for them. So that at least | :27:43. | :27:47. | |
Friday, for the rest of the weekend, they have got food to eat. That's | :27:47. | :27:54. | |
really hard to see. It may not be very aesthetic, but silicone round | :27:54. | :27:58. | |
about and its people may yet to prove to be a thing of great beauty. | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
An ecosystem of hundreds of start- ups, employing thousands of well- | :28:01. | :28:06. | |
paid people. It happens just as the banking sector, long an engine of | :28:06. | :28:09. | |
growth, appears to be entering a period of irreversible decline. | :28:10. | :28:13. | |
The financial sector accounts for 10% of the UK economy, but few | :28:13. | :28:17. | |
people believe it will remain that high in the coming years. An | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
estimated 250,000 people are directly employed by banks and | :28:20. | :28:27. | |
insurers in the City at the moment. Down from its precrisis peak of | :28:27. | :28:32. | |
2350,000. With all major banks cutting staff, especially in | :28:32. | :28:36. | |
investment banking, staff numbers will be probably at a 20-year low | :28:36. | :28:42. | |
by the end of next year. The hope is that places like the Google | :28:42. | :28:48. | |
Campus, will create a shrew of self-employed people who hire | :28:48. | :28:51. | |
themselves, and others in cafe-like environments like this. What the | :28:51. | :28:56. | |
Government is doing right is championing Tech City and the tech | :28:56. | :28:59. | |
cluster in the UK. Opportunities to improve are in the areas of | :29:00. | :29:02. | |
immigration, enabling technical talent coming to the UK. In the | :29:02. | :29:07. | |
area of education, strengthening the education system, especially | :29:07. | :29:10. | |
the technical degrees and the skills that people come out with | :29:10. | :29:13. | |
from university, and financing. the meantime, the rest of the old | :29:13. | :29:19. | |
economy, on which Britain is still very dependant, will have to limp | :29:19. | :29:23. | |
on with anaemic growth for a few years, before a new economy emerges | :29:23. | :29:29. | |
from the Chris lisence. Mark Hoban was the co-founder of | :29:29. | :29:34. | |
lastminute.com, and an invester in start-up, and Gerard Lyons is chief | :29:34. | :29:40. | |
economist at the Standard. One economist said it was a DIRE decade, | :29:40. | :29:42. | |
Disappointing Inflation, Rotten Expansion, is that how you see | :29:42. | :29:45. | |
things? The world economy is doingle with, it is continuing to | :29:45. | :29:50. | |
grow. What the UK, like western Europe needs to do, address | :29:50. | :29:55. | |
underlying problems. If we start to do that we can become more positive | :29:55. | :29:58. | |
the reality of the situation is whatever economy one looks at, the | :29:58. | :30:01. | |
outcome depends on the interaction between the fundamentals and public | :30:01. | :30:04. | |
confidence. In the UK the fundamentals are not great, but | :30:04. | :30:08. | |
better than they were. Policy doesn't really have much room for | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
manoeuvre, but could do more, unfortunately confidence is pretty | :30:12. | :30:15. | |
rock bottom. The question is if policy could do more, what policy | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
would be doing the more, what would you like to see? I would like to, | :30:20. | :30:23. | |
obviously, entrepeneurs, we have record levels of people starting | :30:23. | :30:27. | |
companies in this country. That's the good news. The thing is s they | :30:27. | :30:31. | |
are just not getting big enough. They are not expanding faster. The | :30:31. | :30:35. | |
emphasis that has been coming on international trade, I do think, | :30:35. | :30:39. | |
actually, is very relevant. I think it is actually still much harder | :30:39. | :30:42. | |
than one thinks. Using the Internet as a network to help people trade | :30:42. | :30:45. | |
international, out of the UK, this great trading nation, I think there | :30:45. | :30:49. | |
is lots of room for optimisim there. If we don't do it, the world's | :30:49. | :30:55. | |
going to be belonging to Amazon, is that a possibility? That is | :30:55. | :30:58. | |
something I would love to seat economists focus on, what happens | :30:58. | :31:02. | |
in ten years time if e commerce and the Internet sales will be as big | :31:02. | :31:06. | |
as we think it will be, and most of the companies are maerpblg. That is | :31:06. | :31:10. | |
why the sec saving -- American. That is why the tech savings is | :31:11. | :31:13. | |
more important, there is so much economic value that could be taken | :31:13. | :31:17. | |
away from the UK by the big American tech giants. Do you | :31:17. | :31:20. | |
broadly agree with that, that is one part of the future. The | :31:20. | :31:23. | |
Government talks about rebalancing the economy, away from financial | :31:23. | :31:26. | |
services, that may happen for all kinds of reasons, high-tech is one | :31:26. | :31:30. | |
part of the future? I think what is interesting when we look at these | :31:30. | :31:35. | |
big companies, like Google, Amazon, Apple, in the US, and talk about | :31:35. | :31:39. | |
how can we in Europe and the UK create them? There is this myth | :31:39. | :31:44. | |
that the reason we don't have those kind of companies is we don't have | :31:44. | :31:50. | |
enough angel investors and venture capitalists. If you look at Silicon | :31:50. | :31:54. | |
Valley, there was a huge state of investment, going goggle as all | :31:54. | :31:58. | |
georhythm was funded by the science division. Everything behind the | :31:58. | :32:04. | |
iPhone, that makes it a smartphone, touch screen display, the Internet, | :32:04. | :32:07. | |
the voice-activated personal assistant, is state-funded. You | :32:07. | :32:12. | |
need the venture capitalist, but in the US with nano tech and the | :32:12. | :32:17. | |
internet, the VC model is good after the state has made the huge | :32:17. | :32:20. | |
investments that venture capitalists can ride N this country | :32:20. | :32:25. | |
we don't have the confidence of a Government that feels it does have | :32:25. | :32:28. | |
the manoeuvring possibility to confidently invest in these new | :32:28. | :32:32. | |
areas. I personally wouldn't like to see Government invest. Already | :32:33. | :32:39. | |
the European investment, Europe invests 40% of venture capital. | :32:39. | :32:42. | |
That is the limit you are wondering. What the Government can do, | :32:42. | :32:47. | |
encourage through the tax system it, entre pent nurses to keep investing. | :32:47. | :32:51. | |
That is what they are doing -- entrepeneurs, to keep investing. | :32:51. | :32:54. | |
That is what they are doing. There is the question of unemployment | :32:54. | :32:59. | |
going down, I have seen a lot of analysis, one is they are not good | :32:59. | :33:02. | |
jobs and part-time. Another analysis is real wages in Britain | :33:02. | :33:06. | |
have gone down, which helps a flexible labour market? A whole | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
host of things are happening. Public sector jobs are being shed. | :33:10. | :33:13. | |
Although those in public sector jobs now are getting paid more. In | :33:13. | :33:17. | |
terms of the rest of the economy, part-time work, temporary jobs are | :33:17. | :33:23. | |
rising. It is a mixed picture. We saw this in Japan, when the | :33:23. | :33:26. | |
financial crisis happened 20 years ago. People held on to workers in | :33:26. | :33:29. | |
the hope that the economy would turn round. Also because it is | :33:29. | :33:33. | |
difficult to rehire worker. I think the key issue, coming back to the | :33:33. | :33:37. | |
wages point. The big problems we have in Britain and continental | :33:37. | :33:41. | |
Europe is a lack of demand. What should the Government be doing, | :33:41. | :33:44. | |
trying to get more demand into the economy. We have talked about | :33:44. | :33:49. | |
infrastructure, there needs to be tax cuts to get money into people's | :33:49. | :33:52. | |
pockets, the excise duty on petrol, all these things help. At the same | :33:52. | :33:55. | |
time you need to encourage big companies, who have the finances | :33:55. | :34:00. | |
available, to start investing. does that square with the view that | :34:00. | :34:06. | |
the cuts haven't started yet and it will get deeper next year? Stp do | :34:06. | :34:11. | |
any of you foresee -- do any of you foresee the kinds of troubles we | :34:11. | :34:15. | |
have seen in Spain happening here? The problem is demand, but both in | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
terms of the consumers, because we have had this, basically what we | :34:18. | :34:22. | |
need is a Government that doesn't act like a business. Business | :34:22. | :34:27. | |
invested too little during the boom and too little during the bust. We | :34:27. | :34:31. | |
need a counter cyclical Government that makes up for the fall in | :34:31. | :34:36. | |
investment. What guides private sector investment? GDP in all | :34:36. | :34:39. | |
countries is the most volatile part of GDP. This notion that some how | :34:39. | :34:43. | |
it will be tax cuts that will make this country more entrepeneural, | :34:43. | :34:51. | |
and lead investments, I think is really flawed. Two wrongs don't | :34:51. | :34:54. | |
make a right. The previous Government spent too much in the | :34:54. | :35:00. | |
good times and not in the rest. The issue would be to stop spending in | :35:00. | :35:05. | |
the bad times. We need more money in people's pockets, but we need an | :35:05. | :35:12. | |
innovative industrial sector. I was at the Guildhall on Monday, the | :35:12. | :35:14. | |
Government was talking about an industrial policy. | :35:14. | :35:19. | |
We need more money in the economy. The etoric and branding of Britain | :35:19. | :35:25. | |
-- rhetoric and branding of Britain being open for business to attract | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
more business. We will get the Skype message out. People were | :35:28. | :35:32. | |
talking today in Brussels about why are so many start-ups are moving to | :35:32. | :35:37. | |
London. That is great use. We will get some billion-dollar companies, | :35:37. | :35:41. | |
it is about tax cuts, and Britain is open for business, that is a | :35:41. | :35:46. | |
message coming across. I completely disagree, there is a big poster | :35:46. | :35:50. | |
outside the British and skills administration, saying Britain is | :35:50. | :35:54. | |
open for business, lowest tax and lowest registration. People are | :35:54. | :36:01. | |
leaving the UK. Not because we haven't demand in the economy. | :36:01. | :36:06. | |
go to companies with a strong strategic investment policy S | :36:06. | :36:10. | |
Pfizer went to Boston. Other companies are coming to London. | :36:10. | :36:14. | |
have invested in several coming from Spain moving to the UK. | :36:14. | :36:16. | |
green companies are the new -- the new companies are internet, the | :36:17. | :36:21. | |
green companies are leaving. Recent political history shows | :36:21. | :36:25. | |
whichever party wins the seat of Corby ends up in Downing Street. | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
There is little wonder the by- election campaign has been keenly | :36:28. | :36:33. | |
fought. Tomorrow, following the transient political comment, Louise | :36:33. | :36:38. | |
Mensch who quit to spend more time with her family, Corby voters will | :36:38. | :36:42. | |
have a chance to tell us what they think of the Government and the | :36:42. | :36:48. | |
opposition parties. We have been zoo see -- see which way the wind | :36:48. | :36:54. | |
is blowing. First to bury a non-fact about | :36:54. | :37:00. | |
Corby. I was a bit bored so I dismandled the Corby trouser press. | :37:01. | :37:05. | |
It is not the home of the Corby trouser press, let's dismandle the | :37:05. | :37:08. | |
Corby by-election, because this is the home of some very interesting | :37:08. | :37:13. | |
politic. For a start, it feels like several constituencies, the | :37:13. | :37:18. | |
agricultural, the industrial, the affluent and less well off. Because | :37:18. | :37:22. | |
of this diversity, Corby acts as a national opinion poll. In fact, in | :37:22. | :37:25. | |
every single general election, since the constituency of formed, | :37:25. | :37:35. | |
the seat has been won by the party that goes on to form a Government. | :37:35. | :37:39. | |
They loved Maggie, and pipped for John, just, and then fell for tone | :37:39. | :37:44. | |
he yoo, then David came along. There is -- Tony, then David came | :37:44. | :37:47. | |
along. They were general elections where voters asked who do you want | :37:47. | :37:51. | |
to be a Government. This is a by- election, very different. Voters | :37:51. | :37:55. | |
here are answering the question, what message do you want to send to | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
the Government. The toughest fight belongs to the | :37:58. | :38:05. | |
Conservatives, defending a 3.5% majority, in, well, let's not say, | :38:05. | :38:12. | |
the best of circumstances. The outgoing MP was very outgoing. For | :38:12. | :38:22. | |
some reason, Louise Mensch, the glamorous game-show inhabiting | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
novelist, decided to give up politics to go to America with her | :38:26. | :38:30. | |
rock star husband had. I'm 20 years older. | :38:30. | :38:33. | |
The Conservative candidate replacing her, promises to be | :38:33. | :38:37. | |
different. Is the electorate listening. The limiting polling in | :38:37. | :38:43. | |
the seat has been suggesting Labour has a lead. What is dragging your | :38:43. | :38:48. | |
ticket? Is it national politics, David Cameron, local factor, Louise | :38:48. | :38:53. | |
Mensch and that baggage, or is it simply the economy in the electoral | :38:53. | :38:58. | |
cycle. What is hold you back? not being held back, the economy is | :38:58. | :39:03. | |
holding up, a million new jobs created since the coalition came | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
into power. 5 new companies set up in Corby and east Northamptonshire | :39:07. | :39:12. | |
in the last quarter. Apprenticeships are up 124%. There | :39:12. | :39:16. | |
are lot of good signs on the economy. I think people recognise | :39:16. | :39:22. | |
that. This being a by-election, plenty of other parties are | :39:22. | :39:26. | |
fighting Corby. But, as they say, Corby is fighting back. | :39:26. | :39:31. | |
They are banned from canvasing in the town centre, and well, were | :39:31. | :39:35. | |
these signs put up specially. The Lib Dems are smiling for | :39:35. | :39:41. | |
photographs, but it is unlikely they will be come Friday. The polls | :39:41. | :39:44. | |
suggest the only hope they have is their candidate, Jill Hope. A by- | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
election should be a classic Lib Dem opportunity. How difficult is | :39:48. | :39:55. | |
it this time when Lib Dems are in Government? Obviously it is very | :39:55. | :39:59. | |
difficult, I spent many years in opposition, it is so easy, you | :39:59. | :40:02. | |
criticise others and say you could do better, you never have to | :40:02. | :40:05. | |
promise anything concrete. All of a sudden we are delivering | :40:05. | :40:09. | |
policiesering but it is wonderful. I have spent many years as a | :40:09. | :40:11. | |
Liberal Democrat watching Government make really bad | :40:11. | :40:18. | |
decisions. Now 75% of our manifesto has been delivered. Jostling the | :40:18. | :40:21. | |
Liberal Democrats for third place is UKIP. At the general election it | :40:21. | :40:27. | |
was the BNP that came forth. That time UKIP didn't stand. We are | :40:27. | :40:31. | |
speaking common sense, we are really identifying with common | :40:31. | :40:34. | |
sense policies and politic. People are really, they can't put a pin | :40:34. | :40:39. | |
between the other parties. So they are looking for change. They are | :40:39. | :40:42. | |
looking for an independent voice. If they vote for the other three | :40:42. | :40:48. | |
they know there will be no change. Which brings us on to labour, | :40:48. | :40:53. | |
trying not to look too confident, but, according to the polls, poised | :40:53. | :40:57. | |
for their first by-election gain from the Conservatives for 15 years. | :40:57. | :41:02. | |
How much of this do you think that you are detecting pro-Labour, and | :41:02. | :41:07. | |
how much of this is anti- Government? People will make up | :41:07. | :41:12. | |
their mind on Thursday, I hope people vote. They will make up | :41:12. | :41:17. | |
their mind on a range of things. It is important people choose the best | :41:17. | :41:22. | |
person to be the MP, I have shown I'm there for the families. I have | :41:23. | :41:25. | |
ran a campaign to fight for the truth in the hospital. People can | :41:25. | :41:35. | |
see I'm a fighter for this area. We leave the Corby campaign with | :41:35. | :41:44. | |
the Conservatives in a familiar- sounding village. We are in | :41:44. | :41:53. | |
Warmington, shall I say don't panic? That was Warmington-on-Sea. | :41:53. | :41:58. | |
General David Petraeus was, amongst other things, the thinking man's | :41:58. | :42:01. | |
soldier, genuine and curious, and very much admired in the United | :42:01. | :42:04. | |
States and beyond. Now the sex scandal in which he's embroiled has | :42:04. | :42:11. | |
led to him being forced out of the CIA and led to the US military | :42:11. | :42:14. | |
apparatus being subject to a certificate yes, sir investigation. | :42:14. | :42:18. | |
We assess the significance -- serious investigation. We assess | :42:18. | :42:24. | |
the scandal with the help of the British soldier General Petraeus's | :42:24. | :42:29. | |
second in command in Afghanistan. So the man lioniseed by the | :42:30. | :42:33. | |
Americans, pressed for turning around the war in Iraq, called upon | :42:33. | :42:37. | |
to try the same in Afghanistan, and then sent off to the CIA has fallen. | :42:37. | :42:42. | |
There was a time when he could do no wrong, in front of congressional | :42:42. | :42:47. | |
committees. But now, he has gone, like some hero of the ancient age, | :42:47. | :42:53. | |
because of a woman. General Graham Lamb was his deputy | :42:53. | :42:59. | |
in Iraq, and became a close friend. So the loss of him as an individual, | :42:59. | :43:04. | |
in my view, in no way is insignificant. The loss to the | :43:04. | :43:11. | |
organisations, though. Should also be taken into account. His actions | :43:11. | :43:14. | |
were inappropriate. They were unworthy. They were just to people | :43:14. | :43:19. | |
like myself, who will always look up to David, before, now and in the | :43:19. | :43:24. | |
future. We are just disappoint ed. He knows that. But the implication | :43:24. | :43:29. | |
and the consequences to the organisations, both the institution | :43:29. | :43:34. | |
of the US military, and the likes agency, in effect, will be impacted | :43:34. | :43:40. | |
by these event. What could be lost policy wise is | :43:40. | :43:44. | |
Petraeus's advocacy for more action on Syria, or a reduction of drone | :43:44. | :43:48. | |
strikes in Pakistan. I first interviewed General | :43:48. | :43:52. | |
Petraeus in Baghdad four years ago, and have met him several times | :43:52. | :43:57. | |
since. Once he introduced me to Paula Broadwell, the woman he | :43:57. | :44:03. | |
subsequently admitted having an affair with. Whatever his drive and | :44:03. | :44:07. | |
extraordinary intellect, David Petraeus's long years on | :44:07. | :44:11. | |
operational tours and perhaps his brush with cancer, left him open to | :44:11. | :44:16. | |
the attractions of a driven young woman. | :44:16. | :44:20. | |
Miss Broadwell was investigated by the FBI, originally, as the | :44:20. | :44:25. | |
possible source of threatening e- mails to Gill kely, another friend | :44:25. | :44:31. | |
of General Petraeus. However explanation of Mrs Kelley's e-mails | :44:31. | :44:35. | |
revealed thousands from General John Allen, current NATO commander | :44:35. | :44:40. | |
in Afghanistan. The scandal has now engulfed the White House too. | :44:40. | :44:44. | |
General Petraeus had an extraordinary career. He served | :44:44. | :44:48. | |
this country with great distinction, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, and as | :44:48. | :44:57. | |
head of the CIA. By his on assessment, he did not meet the | :44:57. | :45:02. | |
standards that he felt were necessary as the director of the | :45:02. | :45:05. | |
CIA, with respect to this personal matter that he is now dealing with, | :45:05. | :45:12. | |
with his family, and with his wife. It is on that basis that he | :45:12. | :45:19. | |
tendered his resignation, and it is on that basis that I accepted it. | :45:19. | :45:25. | |
Does a man who has wielded powers of life and death, but brought down | :45:25. | :45:33. | |
by an apair signal American purience or is it a symbol of bath | :45:33. | :45:37. | |
Sheba ism, they are looking at modern King Davids in America, of | :45:37. | :45:41. | |
high command. The question becomes why do successful and moral good | :45:41. | :45:47. | |
people get caught up in doing wrongful things, it is a lack of | :45:47. | :45:51. | |
supervision, accountability, too much praise, not enough, I think | :45:51. | :45:58. | |
completeness in their life, if you would, social isolation, the | :45:58. | :46:01. | |
biggest one could be that people don't believe the rules apply to | :46:01. | :46:06. | |
them, or they believe, wrongly so, that they have the power to cover | :46:06. | :46:12. | |
their wrongdoing. That is what we have come to call the bath Sheba | :46:12. | :46:18. | |
syndrome. General McChrystal because of staff indiscretions, | :46:18. | :46:23. | |
Petraeus to infidelity, and now John Allen is being investigated | :46:23. | :46:28. | |
for his correspondence with Gill Kelly, that runs to more than | :46:28. | :46:33. | |
20,000 e-mail, many suggestive. What advice does a veteran | :46:33. | :46:38. | |
commander offer those settinging to wield high command? You are in the | :46:38. | :46:43. | |
constant space of being blamed. You are in the constant space of risk | :46:43. | :46:48. | |
to reputation and career. You're in the constant space of catastrophic | :46:48. | :46:54. | |
failure. So, you know, this is a big deal. But our expectations | :46:54. | :46:59. | |
should be and should continue to be, that we look to the very highest of | :46:59. | :47:06. | |
standards of those individuals, and continue to expect that of them. | :47:06. | :47:11. | |
But, when they stumble and fall, as many will surely do, and David, | :47:11. | :47:14. | |
General David is an example of that, we want to be a little careful in | :47:14. | :47:18. | |
just being too harsh in our judgments. What was once a private | :47:18. | :47:23. | |
matter, between a man and his wife, has brought down a celebrated | :47:23. | :47:28. | |
American hero. But, the model of the modern general, has to be | :47:28. | :47:34. | |
morally impecable as well as skilled on the battlefield. | :47:34. | :47:38. |