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(explosion) No-one has accepted responsibility for the bombs which | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
killed three people and injured 170 others at the Boston Marathon | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
yesterday. How do you go about finding the perpetrators of an | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
outrage like this. The spirit of this city is today | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
defiant, with people determined not to yield a victory to whoever | 0:00:24 | 0:00:34 | |
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brought terror to the marathon. We will speak to a former FBI export | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
and a surgeon who has treated many of the victims. In a moment the | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
photographer covering a happy sporting event who found himself in | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
the middle of a warzone. We speak to the man who took these pictures. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
Also tonight, David Cameron believes this man can save the | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
National Health Service. We talk to him about how such a massive | 0:00:57 | 0:01:03 | |
organisation can ever be made to work perfectly. What proposals will | 0:01:03 | 0:01:09 | |
he consider to introduce some greater consistency in sentencing. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:15 | |
It is a wonderful pleasure to be back here at the Labour club in the | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
Sedgefield constituency. Why do privileged public school boys think | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
that talking estuary gives them authority. What is happening to our | 0:01:22 | 0:01:32 | |
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accents? We have learned a little more about the Boston bombs that | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
killed three people last night. We have learned that one of those | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
murdered was an eight-year-old boy. We have learned that the bombs were | 0:01:42 | 0:01:49 | |
packed with schrapnal and nails. But we haven't learned who the | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
callous individuals were who planted the bombs, not by what | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
perversion of reasons they thought maiming people would advance any | 0:01:58 | 0:02:07 | |
cause of my kind. We're in Boston. Of course the city was shocked by | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
what happened yesterday. You mentioned the loss of the eight- | 0:02:10 | 0:02:17 | |
year-old boy, tonight just before we went on air, another victim, 29- | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
year-old Crystal Campbell was also named from a nearby suburb of the | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
city. It is interesting talking to people here that you do get a sense | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
of their determination to carry on and to deny whoever did it any kind | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
of victory. That, I think is an interesting contrast with this | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
country for example after 9/11. Clearly a much greater and more | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
shocking event. But you get the sense in some ways that America has | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
been inyou are ined to violence to some degree over the intervening | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
years, a decade of counter terrorism, also the traumatic | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
experience of some of these shootings that have happened here, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
in schools for example. One of which was being commemorated at | 0:02:59 | 0:03:08 | |
yesterday's event. The crime scene is the subject of minute | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
investigation as detectives search for fragments of the bombs that | 0:03:11 | 0:03:16 | |
might identify who made them. Huge numbers of images are also being | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
sifted, trying to find the moment the perpetrator planted them. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:27 | |
has to be hundreds, if not thousands of photographs or videos | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
or observations made down at that finish line yesterday. They are | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
sitting down there amongst everyone watching this event this morning. I | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
would encourage you to bring forward anything. You might not | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
think it is significant but it might add value to this | 0:03:44 | 0:03:50 | |
investigation. At the scene today the emergency services' union | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
representative came to offer a $50,000 reward for information and | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
to insist they will find who is responsible. Whoever this person is | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
or whatever this person is he will be brought to justice. We will find | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
him, we find everybody. We found Osama Bin Laden, we will find this | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
person. We will bring him to justice the American way. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
President was briefed by his counter terrorism team but was | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
candid enough to admit there is much that is still unknown. What I | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
have indicated to you is what we know now. We know there were bombs | 0:04:24 | 0:04:31 | |
that were set off. We know that obviously they did severe damage. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
We do not who did them. We do not whether this was an act of an | 0:04:36 | 0:04:42 | |
organisation or an individual or individuals. We don't have a sense | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
of motive yet. Everything else at this point is speculation. But as | 0:04:46 | 0:04:51 | |
we receive more information, as the FBI has more information, as the | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
counter terrorism teams have more information, we will make sure to | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
keep you and the American people posted. We do know more today that | 0:04:57 | 0:05:03 | |
there were two bombs rather than the several originally reported, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
but the low explosive was used, possibly old fashioned gun powder | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
and the devices could have been encased in pressure cookers, widely | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
available T points to a radicalised individual or small group rather | 0:05:16 | 0:05:22 | |
than some grand international conspiracy. One runner, captured | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
yesterday's scenes as the blast killed three and wounded 170. The | 0:05:27 | 0:05:33 | |
end of the 26-mile course. The eight-year-old boy who died, Martin | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
Richard, had been waiting to see his father cross the finishing line. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
The boy's mother and sister waiting with him were also seriously | 0:05:42 | 0:05:49 | |
wounded by the blast. And how today have people reacted to it? We found | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
a quiet determination to deny the perpetrators their benefit. I don't | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
think it really affects people in terms of what they or who they | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
think this was at this point. Weeks to months to years down the road | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
the person or people who did this may impact more global sentiment, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:15 | |
but I think at an individual level people generally are just horrified | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
and it really doesn't matter who it was that did this. Many highlight | 0:06:20 | 0:06:27 | |
Boston's symbolic role as the place where the struggle for American | 0:06:27 | 0:06:35 | |
independence started. As a reason why it was targeted and might be | 0:06:35 | 0:06:41 | |
target targeting is the reason they won't be cowed. I have been here | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
many years and there was symbols in 9/11 and there is symbols in this | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
event. This is the cradle of liberty, it is the city of Boston, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:53 | |
where it all began. Even today there have been strenuous efforts | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
to clear the marathon debris and reduce the size of the exclusion | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
zone around the bomb sites. Boston's answer to the bomber or | 0:07:00 | 0:07:06 | |
bombers is defiant, a yearning to deny whatever capital was sought by | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
an act of terror. Mark, are the authorities as in the | 0:07:11 | 0:07:21 | |
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dark as they suggest about who perpetrated it this? There hasn't | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
been a breakthrough. We know they went up a false investigative alley | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
yesterday. There was a report that a middle eastern man was one of the | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
wounded. Possibly had he been the man that placed the bomb. This was | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
a hypothesis they looked at for a while, they raided his flat and | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
spoke to the people he lived with, he was judged not to be connected | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
with it in any way. One thing that was clear is if they do find leads | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
and they begin to act on them, there is likely to be a lag for | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
quite understandable reasons between them beginning to act on | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
them and what they actually tell the wider public. Thinking back to | 0:07:58 | 0:08:03 | |
some of the previous incidents, after the Oklahoma bombings, the | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
best part of 20 years ago, in that case they were also saying they | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
knew very little as the news helicopters were going live to the | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
scene of raids in Michigan as they descended on suspects that they had | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
actually very quickly followed up on. So at the moment no | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
breakthrough. But watch this space, as they say. An expectation | 0:08:23 | 0:08:30 | |
presumably it will be a pretty drawn out investigation? It could | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
be but you know the view here seems to be that a forensic sifting, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
particularly of the imagery around the sites where the bombs were | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
planted ought to yield something. CCTV cameras obviously on the day | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
of the marathon, many thousands of people taking photographs. In the | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
past in some of these investigations, we have seen this | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
in the UK after the called Brixton pipe bomber struck, individual | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
cameras, the images were linked in order to follow a person back along | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
the route they had travelled. To build a bigger picture and get | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
better images of that person's face. So all of that could be going on | 0:09:06 | 0:09:11 | |
and when this does yield clue it is may well be that we see action. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
Thank you. And we are going to be exploring some of that methodology | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
of that sort of investigation in a few moments with the former FBI | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
investigator. The horror of yesterday's attack though has been | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
laid bare and dramatic, moving and stills images of the explosions. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:34 | |
Some of the most dramatic scenes of the chaos which ensued in the | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
aftermath of the twin bombs was taken by the local newspaper | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
photographer, John Tlumacki. He was picturing runners coming across the | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
line for his newspaper, the boss done Globe, when the explosions | 0:09:46 | 0:09:52 | |
occurred. He quickly found himself capturing the rescue effort. I | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
spoke to him before we came on air and asked what happened when the | 0:09:56 | 0:10:03 | |
bomb went off. I had my camera raised, I was photographing | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
families coming across. The explosion went off. Right in front | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
of me was a gentleman who fell to the ground. I instinctually ran | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
towards the scene of the first explosion and saw what had happened, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:24 | |
the carnage and the devastation. How did people react? People | 0:10:24 | 0:10:30 | |
reacted shocked. People were in disbelief. They were yelling "oh my | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
good", this is Boston t can't happen. There was a moment of | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
silence, I don't think people knew what to do. The first responders | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
were there and looking at each other. They were having a difficult | 0:10:40 | 0:10:45 | |
time moving the barricades away. It was a sense of like, not so much | 0:10:45 | 0:10:51 | |
panic, but what do we do? What are the rescuers going to do? There was | 0:10:51 | 0:10:59 | |
such mass casualties. I witnessed two women with their legs blown off. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
They were obviously in grave danger. You know there was moments where I | 0:11:02 | 0:11:08 | |
walked around and I had to walk through pools of blood and I don't | 0:11:08 | 0:11:13 | |
know it is inscribable. I hope nobody sees that ever again. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:18 | |
you feel at all awkward yourself going around taking photographs | 0:11:18 | 0:11:26 | |
instead of helping people? I was asked that a couple of times. I'm a | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
professional photographer, I work for a newspaper. I'm not trained to | 0:11:30 | 0:11:37 | |
help, I'm not a paramedic. I think if I was a spectator I would have | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
helped but because I'm there to record the event nobody else is | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
there that was with me. I felt it was my obligation to show the world | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
what really happened. It is not a normal response though is it when | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
an explosion happens to run towards it? The normal response would be to | 0:11:56 | 0:12:02 | |
run away? I know, I know. Maybe it was stupid on my part but in | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
retrospect I guess it was a dangerous thing to do. Especially | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
when a police officer was yelling at me to get out of here and not | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
knowing that he was thinking another bomb might be going off. I | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
had a lot of emotions running through me. I think it is an | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
adrenaline thing. I ran towards it. I think a lot of journalists would | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
have done the same thing. That's what you are trained to do. Have | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
you been able to find out anything about some of the badly injured | 0:12:30 | 0:12:37 | |
people you photographed? I know that several of them are in surgery, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
one of the women who I have in the photograph has passed away. I | 0:12:42 | 0:12:49 | |
believe she lives in Me dford. I knew that the two women that were | 0:12:49 | 0:12:55 | |
seriously hurt with their fatal injuries there was a policeman | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
standing over them and he had fingers on each one of their necks | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
checking their pulses. When I got back and looked at the photos I | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
tried to be discreet about showing their faces. Did you ever imagine | 0:13:06 | 0:13:12 | |
you would see anything like this in your own country? I never thought I | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
would see it in Boston. I know it has happened in other parts of our | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
country. I mean it was a festive day. I have covered the marathon or | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
20 years and that location for five years. The streets are aligned with | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
flags from every nation. To see that in the end people were being | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
wheeled over the finish line in stretchers that were injured, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
rather than the glorious occasion where people are jubilant crossing | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
the finish line because they ran all that distance and they trained | 0:13:40 | 0:13:46 | |
all year. I never thought I would see that. I hope nobody ever sees | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
that and it never happens again. I'm lucky I wasn't injured it is | 0:13:51 | 0:13:59 | |
life, I guess now in Boston. Boston's police chief today | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
confirmed that 176 victims of yesterday as attack were treated in | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
hospitals around the city. I'm joined now by Dr Alisdair Conn the | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
chief of emergency services at the Massachusetts General Hospital, 32 | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
patients were admitted there yesterday. Eight of them remain in | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
intensive care. Dr Conn thank you for joining us. What sort of wounds | 0:14:20 | 0:14:29 | |
did they have? Most of them were lower extremity words. The most | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
seriously had basically traumatic amputations. Their lower legs were | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
sort of completely shattered and almost completely removed by the | 0:14:39 | 0:14:47 | |
explosion. All we did is basically completed those amputations. The | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
other critical ones had lower extremity wounds. We were able to | 0:14:52 | 0:14:57 | |
do a blood vessel reconstruction and keep, we are hoping to salvage | 0:14:57 | 0:15:05 | |
that limb. But then again we had a lot of wounds in which the small | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
ball bearings and metal fragments in the arms and legs and abdomen of | 0:15:09 | 0:15:14 | |
some patients. These were ball bearings and other pieces of metal | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
that had presumably been driven by the force of the blast, they were | 0:15:17 | 0:15:23 | |
in the bomb or something? That's what we think. The first time I saw | 0:15:23 | 0:15:30 | |
the gras and the CTs scan -- X-rays and the CT scans we noted how many | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
of the small metal fragments there were. We wondered if they were | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
enclosed in some sort of device and used to produce a lot of damage. As | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
you probably know when you have an explosion these small fragments act | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
like little bullets and can penetrate theish tues and provide a | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
lot of damage to the tissues -- tissues, and provide a lot of | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
damage to the tissues. difficult is it for a doctor to | 0:15:56 | 0:16:04 | |
deal with? It depends in these patients we had to take them to the | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
operating room and try to remove any dead or damaged tissue. When we | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
did that we were able to remove some of the metal fragments and | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
obviously gave them to the FBI and the appropriate authorities. We are | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
hoping they can use this to perhaps determine where these metal | 0:16:21 | 0:16:27 | |
fragments came from, perhaps give us a lead in terms of who caused | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
this tragedy. Some of the patients will need to go back to the | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
operating room over the next few days and have further dressings of | 0:16:33 | 0:16:39 | |
the wounds. These wounds were mainly you say in the lower part of | 0:16:39 | 0:16:48 | |
their bodies? Yes. The vast number of patients who came in had | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
devastating injuries to their lower exfremties. As far as you could | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
tell from -- extremities. As far as you could tell from the remains of | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
their clothing were they mainly spectators or runners or what? | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
of the patients we received and admitted to the hospital were | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
spectators. Obviously fairly close to the finish line and were caught | 0:17:10 | 0:17:16 | |
in the explosion when it occurred. We did treat some runners. But | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
those were from heat exshaugs and dehydration. None of the patients | 0:17:21 | 0:17:30 | |
we received had drawatic injuries that were runners. -- Traumatic | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
injuries that were runners. Did all your patients survive? We still | 0:17:35 | 0:17:41 | |
have seven critical patients but we are hopeful that all of them will | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
survive. Four of them have unfortunately traumatic amputations | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
of one of the lower extremities. None of the patients at the | 0:17:51 | 0:18:01 | |
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Massachusetts General have had both legs needed to be amputated. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
joined by Chris Swecker, formerly number three at the FBI and has | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
experience with bombings in the US and the Middle East. With us is | 0:18:12 | 0:18:18 | |
Jane Harman, a Democrat, former Congresswoman who served on all of | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
Congress's national security committees, and now sits on the | 0:18:21 | 0:18:28 | |
Pentagon's defence review board. Mr Swecker, how do you go about | 0:18:28 | 0:18:38 | |
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discovering what happened from what's left afterwards? It is a | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
methodical forensic investigation. They will look out the entire area | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
of the street and look at every inch of territory there. They are | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
looking for tiny fragments of mettleal. They are looking for | 0:18:48 | 0:18:54 | |
evidence of a detonation device. There are, there is an extensive | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
library of these types of impro- advised explosive devices. They can | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
do a lot with that material. important is the first 48 hours or | 0:19:02 | 0:19:08 | |
so of an investigation like this? Very critical. Usually there are | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
very good leads developed in the first 48 hours, if not the first 24 | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
hours. I had high hopes that some video would have been produced by | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
now that would have shown some things. At least had a suspect out | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
to the public, a photo out to the public at this point. I'm taking | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
that to mean they are still going through the video and haven't found | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
anything significant yet. I will come to you in a second | 0:19:31 | 0:19:37 | |
Congresswoman, in I may, I just want to check, what they are doing | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
Mr Swecker is asking people to send in any pictures, any images at all | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
they may have. By that it means you build up a comprehensive picture, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:52 | |
is that what's going on? Yes it is. They are even canvasing people if | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
they are leaving at the airport to see if they might have video or | 0:19:55 | 0:20:00 | |
pictures that might be helpful. Apparently they did get some good | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
forensic evidence in terms of understanding what kind of | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
container was utilised. Apparently it was pressure cookers. We have | 0:20:06 | 0:20:15 | |
seen that before. What conclusions do you draw? Well we no that the | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
Inspire Magazine that was produced in English by Samir Khan on the | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
Internet and touted at open source Jihad provided these very | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
directions on how to build a bomb out of every day kitchen devices | 0:20:30 | 0:20:36 | |
and materials. So in particular reference was made to pressure | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
cookers. Is this the new information you just referred to | 0:20:39 | 0:20:45 | |
about the nature of the containers, pressure bookers? That's correct. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
What can you tell us about that? They are reporting in the US the | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
recent press conference in the last 20 minutes. They reported that they | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
had some evidence that some pressure cookers were, the | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
containers for the bombs. In other words you can create a bomb by | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
putting schrapnal, material, ball bearings and that sort of thing | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
inside a pot and creating a detonation device and you have got | 0:21:11 | 0:21:17 | |
a homemade bomb. Now Jane Harman, Mr Swecker was referring to the | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
press conference, the news conference. There were a very large | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
number of representatives of different organisations on the | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
podium there. How much of a problem is that in this sort of | 0:21:28 | 0:21:37 | |
investigation? I don't think it is a problem. In fact there is a whole | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
Government approach to investigating this crime. That is | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
what we want. I was in Congress during 9/11 and I watched agencies | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
of Government operate in their own silos, and in fact 9/11 was an | 0:21:48 | 0:21:54 | |
example of that. We had the firefighters climbing the towers in | 0:21:54 | 0:22:00 | |
New York as they were glowing red with the NWPD respects overhead and | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
they couldn't communicate with each other. We lost additional lives | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
because of that. I want to comment on the Internet material, I have an | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
example, this is from this Inspire Magazine. This is how to build a | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
bomb in the kitchen. Hold it a bit more in front of you, we can't | 0:22:16 | 0:22:21 | |
quite see it, that's it, fine. That's the pressure cooker and here | 0:22:21 | 0:22:26 | |
is the detonator, it is on here too. Here it is which is a typical clock | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
which may have been used. One of the things I want to say about this | 0:22:30 | 0:22:40 | |
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this is not ...put the clock back? No, we want to see your face now we | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
have seen the pictures. Thank you, this is not the only source of | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
material, something called the Anarchist Cook Book, prepared in | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
the early 70 by somebody offended by the Vietnam War, an American. | 0:22:54 | 0:23:01 | |
Let's not assume that if these materials were used and if they | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
were, because they are easily available on the Internet that | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
there is a connection necessarily to some Yemeni terrorist, there may | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
not be. Unfortunately these materials are widely available, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
even if you don't buy the hoax cuss poke cuss at the front end telling | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
you why you should follow Jihad, you might just follow the | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
instructions for a different reason. We have to be careful not to leap | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
to conclusions about who did this and why they might have done it. It | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
seems as though a back pack contained a pressure cooker bomb or | 0:23:35 | 0:23:40 | |
series of bombs with some kind of timer and it was dropped in trash | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
cans or something of that nature. We have seen this before. I wanted | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
today say that pipe bombs, a variation of this were used in | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
Atlanta during the Olympics in the mid-1990s. It took seven years to | 0:23:51 | 0:23:57 | |
find the guy who did it. We first false low accused somebody else. It | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
took -- falsely accused somebody else. The only way we found him was | 0:24:02 | 0:24:07 | |
he used pipe bombs in other states similar to the Atlanta bombs. We | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
will find out who did this, but it is not an easy problem to solve. If | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
they were acting alone particularly. It is striking that no-one has | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
attempted to claim responsibility for it yet? That is true. That is a | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
hallmark of international terrorist organisations. They are very proud | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
of their work, they are very quick to take credit for their work. That | 0:24:27 | 0:24:34 | |
is the point of terrorism. To strike here in people and target | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
iconic events like this. That is an interesting angle. The former | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
Congresswoman is correct. This could very well be domestic | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
terrorism. I don't believe anybody has taken their eye off that | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
possibility. What is your experience as a former senior FBI | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
figure about the number of agencies that are involved in an | 0:24:53 | 0:24:59 | |
investigation of this kind. What is your experience? Well there are | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
joint terrorism task forces across the country. There are only a few | 0:25:03 | 0:25:09 | |
prior to 9/11. There are over 100 of them now post 9/11. They are | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
designed to create an interagency environment and eliminate all of | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
that getting to know you, who is in charge sort of thing. That should | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
not be happening here. It looks to me like this is very harmonious. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
There is great co-operation here and I think they have worked well | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
together in the past. This is not the first time they have had to | 0:25:27 | 0:25:33 | |
work together. It is striking I think looking at President Obama's | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
comments that he has been very, very measured in what he has said, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
hasn't he? This is President Obama, let's understand he's a highly | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
trained lawyer, he used to teach constitutional law. It was | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
interesting he gave a press conference last night and did not | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
call what happened terrorism, he gave one this morning and did call | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
it terrorism. I think by any garden variety definition of terrorism | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
this was terrorism. The question is by whom and for what motive? I'm | 0:26:00 | 0:26:05 | |
cautioning again that we need to be very careful before we stigmatise a | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
group or engage in some very discriminatory behaviour, because | 0:26:10 | 0:26:15 | |
we could be wrong. Mr Swecker does this lead to brief politicians on | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
what is happening. How difficult is that for an investigator? Well, as | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
you saw at the press conference there it is a cast of thousands. It | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
is quite difficult to try to run an investigation and keep local | 0:26:28 | 0:26:34 | |
politicians up to speed on what's going on. But you know they are | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
used to doing this. The agent is charge is very competent. He has | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
been down this road before. I don't think it is particularly | 0:26:43 | 0:26:48 | |
troublesome at this point. Thank you very much. Yes, please, Jane | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
Harman? I argue it is important to keep politicians briefed, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
especially Congress. These are voices that can assure people who | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
are enormously anxious. The Mayor of Boston is a beloved figure, he | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
has served longer than any other mayor in Massachusetts history, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:10 | |
having him leave his hospital bed, he is apparently quite ill and have | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
him preside over a press conference means a lot to those who were just | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
deaf vase tated by yesterday as attacks. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
Later on Newsnight the rain in Spain has nothing much to do with | 0:27:22 | 0:27:28 | |
it. Why are Posh and Becks getting posher, while ministers want to | 0:27:28 | 0:27:35 | |
talk like barrow boys? It ought to be the first thing you are entitled | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
to expect when putting yourself in the hands of doctors and nurse, as | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
Hippocrates put it, "first that they do no harm ". A succession of | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
scandals in the National Health Service, most recently the | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
appalling and unnecessary suffering of hundreds of people at Stafford | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
Hospital has shown how that promise has been betrayed in this country. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
The principle of zero harm is an objective in companies across the | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
land. How to achieve it in an organisation as vast as the | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
National Health Service? David Cameron has given answering that | 0:28:06 | 0:28:16 | |
question to President Obama's favourite healthcare expert, Donald | 0:28:16 | 0:28:26 | |
0:28:26 | 0:28:26 | ||
Boawick. This is a safety huddle. At the | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
start of every shift here at Salford Royal Hospital the ward | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
sister makes sure everybody knows which patients need a little extra | 0:28:34 | 0:28:41 | |
help. Ulcers bed 11. Staff here say the safety huddle is one of the | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
ways they have managed to make this one of the safest hospitals in the | 0:28:44 | 0:28:50 | |
UK. Ward sisters are also promoted to ward matron if they meet set | 0:28:50 | 0:28:56 | |
standards. Salford Royal is a beacon hospital. They claim the | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
fifth-lowest mortality rate in the country. And 98% of patients would | 0:29:00 | 0:29:08 | |
recommend to family and friends. David Cameron visited in January | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
last year. And the director of nursing and chief executive here | 0:29:11 | 0:29:16 | |
are part of a team helping the Government work out how other | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
hospitals can improve patient safety. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
The public inquiry into patient neglect at Mid Staffs said the | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
culture of the NHS must change to put the patient first. And with the | 0:29:28 | 0:29:34 | |
central ten knit of "zero tolerance" of harm. -- tenet of | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
"zero tolerance" of harm. You have to start by respecting the staff on | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
the frontline. Most of the solutions to reducing harm are | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
going to be found in our ward and clinical environments amongst the | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
staff who work there. They are not going to be found in a chief | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
executive's office. One of the most devisive issues to | 0:29:53 | 0:30:01 | |
be resolved is how best to ensure that poor care is corrected. Making | 0:30:01 | 0:30:06 | |
sure staff feel they are able to report instances of harm and they | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
know no blame will be associated with them if they do report. It has | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
been open to our patients and families if things go wrong, and | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
occasionally they do, that we should immediately say that. We | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
should apologise for it and seek an explanation. We should learn from | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
what went wrong. Director of nursing, Elaine | 0:30:25 | 0:30:32 | |
Inglesby-Burke showed us the safety board of key stas at the entrance | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
of each ward -- statistics at the entrance of each ward. It tells me | 0:30:36 | 0:30:42 | |
how safe the ward is and how safe the ward is for patients and | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
families. We have MRSA infections, it is over a year since one has | 0:30:46 | 0:30:52 | |
been acquired on the ward. We have falls, which you do experience in | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
an elderly care facility. We are working really hard to reduce them. | 0:30:55 | 0:31:00 | |
It has been one day. Previously I was up here last week it was 19 | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
days since they had a fall. From a ward perspective, from the staff, | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
this is really, really important to them that this is publicly | 0:31:07 | 0:31:17 | |
displayed. They are accountable for the safe care in this area. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
Good morning Cliff, are you feeling OK today? Staff here say something | 0:31:21 | 0:31:26 | |
called intentional rounding is also key. That's doing regular checks on | 0:31:26 | 0:31:32 | |
patients to pre-empt problems. As the percentage of the population | 0:31:32 | 0:31:37 | |
aged over 65 rises, care will become more complex. About a | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
quarter of hospital beds are currently occupied by people with | 0:31:41 | 0:31:51 | |
0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | ||
dementia. Would you like a fork or spoon? We went to the Friarage | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
Hospital near Middlesborough, they are reaching out to local | 0:31:56 | 0:32:01 | |
volunteers to help when demands are high, such as meal times. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
I wonder what you think about the idea of having volunteers in | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
hospitals? Very good idea. think it is sensible? I think so, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
yes. How about the idea that you are not worried they are not | 0:32:11 | 0:32:20 | |
nurses? I thought you might be asking that. Yes, no I don't it | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
will bother. They have the sense to say hang about and dash off and get | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
a nurse haven't they. If you didn't have that help would you it be | 0:32:28 | 0:32:34 | |
quite a struggle? I could manage myself. I do have a bit of struggle | 0:32:34 | 0:32:44 | |
0:32:44 | 0:32:44 | ||
with the cream to get the corner off. I stab -- the salad cream | 0:32:44 | 0:32:49 | |
packet to get the corner off, I stab it with the fork. Some people | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
just want a chat, we hold their hands if they want to talk. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
Johnson has seen hospital care from both side. She's a former nurse, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:03 | |
she's 59 now and was diagnosed with early on set Alzheimer's seven | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
years ago. What have you found most difficult about being in hospital | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
yourself? They should assess a patient to see what the patient | 0:33:11 | 0:33:16 | |
needs help with. For example Ann what do you need? I have problems | 0:33:16 | 0:33:22 | |
with things like tap. Some you lift, some you turn, some you push. What | 0:33:22 | 0:33:27 | |
do I do with the tap, how do I flush the toilet. They should | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
assess the patient needs taking to the toilet and bringing back. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:37 | |
Sometimes what's needed is simple. Dignity and respect is so important. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:44 | |
Just love me for who I am and that will go a long way. This is a | 0:33:44 | 0:33:49 | |
generational opportunity out of tragedy for nursing to stand up, be | 0:33:49 | 0:33:54 | |
bold and to reclaim their territory, if you like. To actually prove to | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
the country that care and compassion is at the heart of | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
everything we do. Many hospitals are not as glowing | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
as Salford Royal and have a long journey before they can be | 0:34:05 | 0:34:11 | |
confident they are not causing patients harm. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
The Professor advising the Government on how to improve | 0:34:14 | 0:34:19 | |
patient safety is here with me now. First of all, what is it you are | 0:34:19 | 0:34:25 | |
seeking? I was asked by the Government and service to form a | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
committee to take under advisement the detailed and impressive report | 0:34:29 | 0:34:34 | |
that has already been done on Mid Staffordshire, and digest them into | 0:34:34 | 0:34:39 | |
some actionable recommendations. This target of zero harm, what is | 0:34:39 | 0:34:45 | |
zero harm? It is an aspiration. As you said when we go to get help in | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
healthcare we should have an expectation that everything that | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
can be done to help us can be done, and nothing will be done to harm us. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:58 | |
Harm is almost always unintentional. But the correct safety system is | 0:34:58 | 0:35:03 | |
one which everyone at work every day takes no harm as inevitable. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
achievable? It is important to hold the aspiration. Whether it is | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
achievable over any period of time I can't say. There are places that | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
have achieved remarkable results, you saw some in the initial opening | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
week. We can go a year without certain kinds of infections, that | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
is good. It is an enormous enterprise the National Health | 0:35:22 | 0:35:27 | |
Service. You are never going to get all of it at zero harm are you? | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
Probably not. But the minute one admits to any harm is inevitable | 0:35:32 | 0:35:39 | |
the game is lost. The attitude in a culture or complex system is to | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
work and everything every day to make it safe. Harm is inevitable | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
isn't it? It depends on the exact kind of harm we are talking about. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:52 | |
It depends on the degree of energy that one puts into actually | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
intercepting the harm. Error is inevitable, we are all human, not | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
every error has to result in injury. What has gone wrong in the NHS that | 0:36:00 | 0:36:05 | |
we can't take zero harm for granted? I think gone wrong in the | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
NHS is not how I would think about it, it is what can the NHS improve. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:16 | |
How can we be better every day. Something has gone wrong if you | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
can't be certain of zero harm? Something has gone wrong when | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
leaders and the work force don't intend every day and try every day | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
to achieve safer care. Something can be set right. It is possible | 0:36:27 | 0:36:32 | |
with proper leadership and the energy we see in the best of the | 0:36:32 | 0:36:40 | |
NHS to ri chief -- achieve astounding results. To a layman is | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
seems remarkable this situation could have come about. There was | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
one particular scandal here at Stafford Hospital that has | 0:36:47 | 0:36:52 | |
horrified many, many people. It is clearly not unique. Unique on that | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
scale perhaps, but it is not unique that things go wrong, there are | 0:36:56 | 0:37:03 | |
errors, harm is done. Yet you have said publicly you love the NHS? It | 0:37:03 | 0:37:08 | |
is a romance for you? I don't know how you reconcile these two things? | 0:37:08 | 0:37:14 | |
When the NHS was founded in this country you made a magnificent step | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
towards establishing healthcare as a human right, I deeply respect | 0:37:17 | 0:37:23 | |
that. This is a nation completely committed to the NHS as a service. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
It is large undertaking and it is never done. You are on a continuous | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
process to making the NHS ever better. Isn't part of the problem | 0:37:31 | 0:37:36 | |
that in this country it is almost treated a secular religion? People | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
value it in all countries, especially in this country. I | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
notice the degree of embrace of the NHS. You saw it in those remarkable | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
Olympic ceremonies as your counselrated. Danny boil has | 0:37:50 | 0:37:55 | |
exactly the same religion you have -- Danny Boyle has the same | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
religion you have got, he loves the NHS? I deeply respect it, when you | 0:37:59 | 0:38:05 | |
have an enterprise of 1.4 million employees and serving a country of | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
millions, you have to work very hard, it is not automatic. Isn't | 0:38:09 | 0:38:18 | |
that where the complace sense comes in? -- Complace cy comes in? | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
Sometimes things go wrong and the attention of leaders is needed | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
every day to maintain excellence and see it improves. Let me ask you | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
about another aspect that has come up recently this duty of candour. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
The proposal is that be applied at an institutional level, should it | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
apply to individuals? I had the privilege of chairing a committee | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
whose report is due in July, I won't prejudice their answer. We | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
are lucky to have a remarkable group of experts deeply committed | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
to understanding what to do. Our report will speak to that. My own | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
view right now is based on the science of safety and improvement. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
What we know is in order to have a safe environment whether it is a. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
Ho, a nuclear power plant or an aircraft carrier, you have to have | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
openness, people have to be able to say what they see and be encouraged | 0:39:02 | 0:39:08 | |
and celebrated to do it, even to report their own mistakes. If duty | 0:39:08 | 0:39:14 | |
of candour means a bias towards sharing information, absolutely. As | 0:39:14 | 0:39:19 | |
an essential property. Not if it make them liable to their own | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
mistakes? Leadership needs to build an environment that means people | 0:39:22 | 0:39:27 | |
aren't fearful to speak up. You may see something today and if you are | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
frightened we have a problem. The idea is transparency and openness. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
You are with the Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt? I don't know which | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
aspect of his position you are talking about. Afterall we have a | 0:39:38 | 0:39:43 | |
committee at work to decide what to do. What I am sure about from the | 0:39:43 | 0:39:48 | |
science of safety is that a safe environment is by definition an | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
open one, where we can talk about what we see. But if it renders | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
somebody personally liable, that's a big issue, isn't it? People do | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
what makes sense, if it takes sense to speak up and share what one sees | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
if that is valued by one's peers and culture one will do that. If | 0:40:06 | 0:40:12 | |
peer isam beeent and people are frightened --am beeant and people | 0:40:12 | 0:40:18 | |
are frightened when they speak you will get the situation that comes | 0:40:19 | 0:40:26 | |
from that. You have seen and more of the N sh. S, warts and all, I'm | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
not suggesting you didn't know previously. Has it affected how you | 0:40:29 | 0:40:36 | |
feel about it at an emotional level? Nobody can read the Mid | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
Staffordshire report without empathy and sympathy for the | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
patients, carers and staff that suffered. People really suffered, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:47 | |
it tears your heart out. Maybe it gives me more energy that I have | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
had before to say no. We can be better than that, you can be and | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
have a service that is devoted every single day for safety. We | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
know technically how to do that. It has refuelled my tank. It hasn't | 0:40:59 | 0:41:08 | |
made you feel any less of it? a great human endeavour, I would | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
love to see this country succeed with healthcare that sets a | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
standard for the whole world. Linguist students at Manchester | 0:41:17 | 0:41:22 | |
University proudly announced today that they discovered that David and | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
Victoria Beckham are talking more posh than they used. They have | 0:41:26 | 0:41:32 | |
changed their hair colour and tattoo, why not accents. Received | 0:41:32 | 0:41:37 | |
pronunciation, as it used to be called, signified a higher class | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
than a different accent. That is where Margaret Thatcher went on to | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
sound like the Duchess of Devonshire. When a public schoolboy | 0:41:45 | 0:41:55 | |
0:41:55 | 0:42:00 | ||
gets to Downing Street he wants to "tall loi tha". | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
Elocution, articulate, social mobility. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
# You say either # I say either | 0:42:08 | 0:42:14 | |
# You say neither # I say neither | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
High spirits at the BBC deportment college, did you spot Fiona Bruce. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
Manners make the man and woman. What about speech? People with no | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
shortage of time on their hands reckon David Beckham is talking | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
posher now. REPORTER: David are you happy to go to Real Madrid? Yeah. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:36 | |
Let's see for ourselves. If we play well and I play well we could beat | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
them, we knew we was the better team. We done that and we come back | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
from the 1-0 deficit and the character shone through. It is a | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
special moment for the country, for the team and a special moment for | 0:42:49 | 0:42:57 | |
myself to be involved in this. This programme's worthless if it | 0:42:57 | 0:43:06 | |
isn't an analytical tool, we turned to the director of the London | 0:43:06 | 0:43:16 | |
Speech Workshop. Something instead somethin, and "t "on the end of | 0:43:16 | 0:43:21 | |
words. I think he sound better in the second clip. It has been | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
exciting and honouring and touching. The impression he makes has changed | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
an awful lot. That is the key thing. It is pretty obvious that is his | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
purpose in doing voice work, which I'm fairly sure he has done. Is to | 0:43:32 | 0:43:37 | |
actually change the impression he makes. Let's look at how some other | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
great voices of these islands have changed, and what that might tell | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
us. I nearly went over the edge I was down on the floor with ten | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
people on top of me and looking down on this crowd I was seething | 0:43:48 | 0:43:53 | |
underneath. What would be your favourite spot | 0:43:53 | 0:44:00 | |
in the UK? The silly Isles looks lovely, you can't get any further | 0:44:00 | 0:44:07 | |
west than "tha". My strong suspicion is in private Sir Mick | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
Jagger sounds not unlike our blessed Prime Minister, or somebody | 0:44:11 | 0:44:16 | |
like that. The travelling preacher of social observation on the | 0:44:16 | 0:44:23 | |
Rolling Stones frontman Mick Jagger. He is obliged, in his public | 0:44:23 | 0:44:28 | |
persona to maintain something of the sort of mockney nasal whine | 0:44:28 | 0:44:32 | |
that he developed as a suburban London middle-class boy who had | 0:44:32 | 0:44:39 | |
gone to the LSE. He developed that in order to be a popstar. Eggs | 0:44:39 | 0:44:43 | |
specially for myself and my brother, you ain't ever going to find | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
someone to jump into the position they would hold, simple as that. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:53 | |
think the way Prince Harry sounds is today's sort of Sloane sound, | 0:44:53 | 0:45:01 | |
which is more knocked back than a previous cohort of Sloanes and | 0:45:01 | 0:45:06 | |
people from his class. I think that there is also the requirement to be | 0:45:06 | 0:45:15 | |
"one of the lads". It is a lowering, not a raising? Enough is enough. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:20 | |
that's it. To say to the Government of the day, enough is enough. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
the eve of her funeral, we have to mention Baroness Thatcher and her | 0:45:24 | 0:45:29 | |
voice coaching. What did she say was her greatest achievement? Oh | 0:45:29 | 0:45:35 | |
yes, new Labour! Some treated with relative leniency, others in the | 0:45:35 | 0:45:40 | |
Norfolk case with some severity. tell you what I like, I'd like one | 0:45:40 | 0:45:49 | |
of those. He has gone from very posh and heightened up, to this | 0:45:49 | 0:45:58 | |
nasal trail, "severity", and this "a" on the end instead of "e", to | 0:45:58 | 0:46:04 | |
almost Cockney, "I tell you what I loike". For too long we have a | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
system where people who do the right thing, who get up in the | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
morning and work hard felt penalised for them. Out of all of | 0:46:11 | 0:46:21 | |
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them that's the most painful. Why?'S Dropping his "h", "we've ah". | 0:46:21 | 0:46:26 | |
David Beckham felt authentic but that feels inauthentic for me. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:33 | |
one of our vocally madeover politician put it, it is all about | 0:46:33 | 0:46:43 | |
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"elocution, elocution elocution". "elocution, elocution elocution". | 0:47:06 | 0:47:12 | |
That's all, innit, bye! Good evening, more windy weather over | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
the next couple of days. Some strong wind on Wednesday, | 0:47:15 | 0:47:19 | |
especially to the north and west. We have got some rain, again it is | 0:47:19 | 0:47:24 | |
Northern Ireland, Scotland starting off with the wettest as the weather | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
moving slowly northwards by the afternoon. A few showers in | 0:47:27 | 0:47:32 | |
Northern Ireland by 4.00pm. Temperatures about 123. Outbreak of | 0:47:32 | 0:47:37 | |
rain for parts of Scotland. Temperatures through the central | 0:47:37 | 0:47:43 | |
lowlands up to 11. The rain heavy in Galloway by the afternoon and | 0:47:43 | 0:47:47 | |
affecting Cumbria. Further south it should be dryer. Sunshine for | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
Yorkshire, Lincolnshire. Through the East Midlands and temperatures | 0:47:50 | 0:47:55 | |
to the south-east could lift around 19, 20 degrees. A small chance of a | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
shower, most places missing those and staying dry. A little more | 0:47:58 | 0:48:03 | |
cloud across south-west England. Here a fine afternoon. For Wales | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
the wettest of the weather around guard began bay. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
Temperatures really a little bit above average on Wednesday, despite | 0:48:10 | 0:48:18 | |
those strong wind. They drop back on Thursday, more typical array of | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
temperatures, a mixture of sunshine and showers. The showers heaviest | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
the further north and west you are being blown in by another strong | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 |