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$:/STARTFEED. What sort of a country are we? On the eve of | :00:12. | :00:18. | |
elections the Prime Minister gets stick for appointing cronies to his | :00:18. | :00:24. | |
top team. Labour is accused again of being the trades unions catspaw, | :00:24. | :00:31. | |
and UKIP shout "vote for us we are not part of the establishment". | :00:31. | :00:34. | |
Times have changed yet old customs have survived. Just the | :00:34. | :00:39. | |
establishment even exist any longer, and if not, why does the Prime | :00:39. | :00:43. | |
Minister keep adding more products of Eton to his team. We go skiing | :00:43. | :00:48. | |
with the wounding of America's wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
discover what the promise of mobility means. I'm too proud to | :00:51. | :00:55. | |
take my life. But for a long time it didn't sound like a bad idea. | :00:55. | :01:00. | |
years on screen, now the actor Bill Roache is named as a suspected | :01:00. | :01:04. | |
rapist. Should those accused of such crimes be entitled to the same | :01:04. | :01:10. | |
anonymity as the victims of the crimes? And the great director, | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
Peter Brook, talks life and literature and why people should | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
stop questioning Shakespeare's authorship. I wanted to write a | :01:18. | :01:25. | |
short little pamphlet to make fun, once and for all and destroy this | :01:25. | :01:33. | |
idiotic idea that somebody else wrote Shakespeare. | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
Who runs this place? It is the question any reporter worth their | :01:36. | :01:41. | |
salt ought to ask when they pitch up somewhere. But supposing this | :01:41. | :01:46. | |
reporter was to be deposited in Britain, if he or she picked up the | :01:46. | :01:49. | |
newspapers they might well conclude that the introduction of | :01:49. | :01:54. | |
universally free education in the 1940s hadn't changed much. On the | :01:54. | :01:57. | |
eve of local elections David Cameron is having to fight | :01:57. | :02:02. | |
accusations that his Government is some sort of make work scheme for | :02:02. | :02:07. | |
the products of Eton. Although it is not entirely true that | :02:07. | :02:11. | |
Methuselah was an eat tonia, the argument has been around for a | :02:11. | :02:17. | |
while. It is 50 years since a senior Tory talked about a magic | :02:17. | :02:20. | |
circle of Etonians making prime ministers. | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
Campaigning in the local elections the Prime Minister is keen to show | :02:23. | :02:28. | |
how in touch he is with regular folk. See for example how he eats | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
cheese! But increasingly he's having to answer charge that he and | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
his inner circle are some what a breed apart. But what he leads is | :02:36. | :02:42. | |
not so much a Government as a chum- ocracy. I appoint people because | :02:42. | :02:46. | |
they are good enough to do a job and they are the right people for | :02:46. | :02:49. | |
that job. I have people around me with all sorts of different | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
backgrounds and schooling, but the most important thing is are you | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
going to be good enough to do the job? So who is this supposedly cosy | :02:57. | :03:02. | |
group of chums? Well, the latest name in the frame is Christopher | :03:02. | :03:08. | |
Lookwood, he's just been appointed as the latest member of David | :03:08. | :03:12. | |
Cameron's policy unit, they are pals he and the Prime Minister, | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
they holidayed in Tuscany, he's also a pal of George Osborne. An | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
old school friend. From the elegality St Paul's public school. | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
Another recent apppointee is Joe Johnson, the brother of Boris | :03:24. | :03:29. | |
Johnson, both men, of course, attended Eton at the same time as | :03:29. | :03:36. | |
David Cameron. Coincidently so did David Cameron's Chief of Staff, Ed | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
Llewlyn, and another apppointee, Jessie Norman, also went to Eton. | :03:40. | :03:44. | |
That may leave Andrew Fellman feeling left out. He only knows the | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
Prime Minister from their days at Oxford together. It doesn't leave | :03:48. | :03:52. | |
much room for women, who of course don't get to go to Eton. But does | :03:52. | :04:01. | |
this really matter if this pool of talent is, from a small source. | :04:01. | :04:05. | |
This whole thing about a chum- ocracy has two negative effects. | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
There is the obvious one that people look at the Prime Minister's | :04:08. | :04:11. | |
operation and think it is completely staffed by his friends, | :04:11. | :04:16. | |
people from very good private schools. There is the perception | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
problem. I think the deeper problem is that actually it means that you | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
have a Downing Street operation which has such a narrow experience | :04:23. | :04:29. | |
of the country that it doesn't produce such good policy. It isn't | :04:29. | :04:31. | |
so effective politically at understanding the country. It is | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
that second problem that I think is the bigger one. And what about | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
Labour? Well they have their own inner circle in the shape of some | :04:39. | :04:48. | |
of the trades unions, Billy Hayes has donated money from his union to | :04:48. | :04:56. | |
Ed Balls. The head of the other trade unions gives money to Chuka | :04:56. | :05:00. | |
Umunna's office. As for Ed Miliband, the unions have signed up to | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
support him, he has received money from the GMB and the most powerful | :05:04. | :05:11. | |
union of all, Unite, led by Len McClues key. We should remember the | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
trades union movement founded the Labour Party in the first place. | :05:14. | :05:18. | |
Even so the Electoral Commission's data has shown they have given more | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
generously in the last two years, and given a greater total of | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
donations to the party. One former trade union official says all | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
unions are not equal, that Unite has become dominant in Labour | :05:30. | :05:37. | |
politics. Obviously Awe night are very influential in terms of the -- | :05:37. | :05:41. | |
obviously Unite are very influential in terms of what they | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
give. They have a total political strategy, it is not just about | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
tweaking the purse strings. They are training up candidates, | :05:49. | :05:52. | |
training policy, and running independent campaigns, they have a | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
strategy outside of the TUC. In a sense they are not saying "your | :05:55. | :06:00. | |
money or your life", they are basically establishing an entirely | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
independent Labour movement if you like. What about those other | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
centres of power outside Westminster? The European Union for | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
example. These are some of their big players. You probably don't | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
recognise all that many of them. Estimates on the extent of EU | :06:16. | :06:21. | |
influence on the UK vary widely. But the House of Commons library | :06:21. | :06:28. | |
has calculated that between 1997 and 2009, only 6.8% of primary | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
legislation, acts of parliament, and 14.1% of secondary legislation, | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
those are the regulation that is implement law, came from the EU. | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
Clearly European regulations have an effect. Devolution certainly has | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
a big effect in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Less of an impact | :06:44. | :06:48. | |
in England, apart from the areas that have elected mayors. Even | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
despite all that it is still a pretty centralised society. There | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
is still a lot a Prime Minister with the proper backing and | :06:54. | :07:00. | |
organisation and will can do. was in 1440 that Henry VI founded | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
Eton College. Maybe it is significant that so many in British | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
public life come from such a narrow circle. But whether voters care, | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
whether it will make the slightest bit of difference to tomorrow's | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
elections in England and Wales, well that's another question. To | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
talk about this we have Sarah Wollaston, who is a Conservative MP, | :07:19. | :07:22. | |
who has questioned the number of old Etonians in Government. She | :07:22. | :07:27. | |
joins us from Exeter where the sun is apparently still shining. Dr | :07:27. | :07:33. | |
Milton Celiz is a political historian and -- Dr Anthony Seldon | :07:33. | :07:38. | |
is a political historian. Harry Mount is a journalist on the public | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
schools system, and Toni Pearce is the newly elected President of the | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
National Union of students. When she takes up her post in the summer | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
she will become the first leader in the organisation who hasn't been to | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
university. What do you think this appointments | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
policy looks like? I don't think it looks very good, does it? It is not | :07:56. | :08:01. | |
just from one sector of education, the public schools, it is from one | :08:01. | :08:06. | |
particular school. We have been a democracy for getting on for two | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
centuries, so it is bound to provoke all kinds of questions | :08:09. | :08:14. | |
about exactly how fair is Britain today? What do you think, Harry? | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
doesn't look great and they certainly are an elite, but what | :08:17. | :08:25. | |
they really are is an intellectual elite. For what it is worth Joe | :08:25. | :08:32. | |
Johnson got a first, Jessie Norman has written an intellectual | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
biography of Edmund Burke. I know some of them, not just because they | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
are friends. The more important thing is they are intellectual as | :08:39. | :08:42. | |
opposed they have been to a certain school or university. They are all | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
men, of course, Sarah Wollaston, what does it feel like to you? | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
other commentators have said it is about the appearance that it gives. | :08:50. | :08:53. | |
It is not just the message we give, it is the messenger that delivers | :08:54. | :08:59. | |
it that is important. About being much more inclusive. Go on? I think | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
also it is something about patronage. This is the heart of | :09:02. | :09:05. | |
this. We are also hearing about the problem within the Labour Party, | :09:05. | :09:11. | |
and if you take, for example, when David Miliband left for New York, | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
Ed commented if I'm Prime Minister I will make sure one way or another | :09:14. | :09:18. | |
that he service this country. What is that if it is not patronage. It | :09:18. | :09:23. | |
is about how we tackle how patronage operates throughout | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
Westminster. Toni Pearce you took at it from a different generation | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
and different background, what does it look like to you? It has a huge | :09:30. | :09:34. | |
impact on the way that people in this country see politics. And | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
their view of politics. This idea that politics is some sort of elite | :09:39. | :09:42. | |
club where only men who went to a certain school or university | :09:42. | :09:46. | |
together can get in and lead the country. I think it is really | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
concerning actually. It says a lot about the way this Government are | :09:50. | :09:56. | |
running the country, I think. Actually but that goes and is | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
symptomatic of a wider problem in the political system. And not | :10:00. | :10:05. | |
exclusive to the Conservative Party because the Labour Party is in the | :10:05. | :10:07. | |
same kind of boat? This idea it is full of different clubs of | :10:08. | :10:11. | |
different types of people who give jobs to people that they grew up | :10:11. | :10:17. | |
with or are friends W I take your point that these people -- I take | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
your point that niece people are intellectual elite. You get that | :10:21. | :10:25. | |
through a certain way and through privilege. Going somewhere like | :10:25. | :10:29. | |
Eton probably allows you to become an intellectual elite that going to | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
other places you get less of that opportunity. That is certainly true. | :10:33. | :10:37. | |
What is extremely unfair is the school system in this country that | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
the independent schools are some of the best schools in the world. The | :10:40. | :10:43. | |
state schools are some of the worst schools in Europe. So you will end | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
up with this situation. You don't mean all state schools, you mean | :10:47. | :10:49. | |
some state schools, and some private sector schools are very, | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
very good. Some of them are very bad too. There is a reason why you | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
end up with a skewed result of having the country run by public | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
school boys, which it is, it is because those public schools are | :11:02. | :11:05. | |
extremely good at teaching. There are some fantastic state schools in | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
Britain achieving not just great results but also doing some of what | :11:09. | :11:15. | |
the public schools do so well, which is to teach character and | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
attitude and determination to make a mark, to make a change. As | :11:20. | :11:25. | |
opposed to what, sadly, Governments left and right have imposed on | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
schools which is to render them little more than exam factories, | :11:29. | :11:33. | |
making the teachers and students feel that the passing of exams is | :11:33. | :11:37. | |
all that matters. That is not why Etonians get to the top, it is | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
because they have a confidence and connections, and everything that | :11:41. | :11:46. | |
Toni was talking about, it is more than just that. A bigger point here | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
is Eton teaches something else, which is boys, they don't teach | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
women. I don't take the point at all that these people are by nature | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
the most capable people in the country. They may well be, that | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
could be complete coincidence, I find it very hard to believe that | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
the six most talented people in the country are men and they went to | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
Eton. It could be, but it would be a great coincidence. Sarah | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
Wollaston the interesting question, David Cameron is a highly | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
intelligent man, if he knows, as he must know what this looks like, why | :12:17. | :12:22. | |
does he keep on doing it? I do not know. I think it has to change. It | :12:22. | :12:28. | |
could be so different. Today I met with the head of science and | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
technology from a fantastic state Community College in my | :12:33. | :12:36. | |
constituency, and he was appointed by interview. That's what the | :12:36. | :12:40. | |
public would expect. Would Government expect him to be | :12:40. | :12:43. | |
appointed by patronage? Think we would be outrageed if that happened | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
in the state sector, we wouldn't want surgeons appointed by | :12:47. | :12:55. | |
patronage. Does it matter, is it damaging? If Joe Johnson turns out | :12:55. | :13:01. | |
to be exactly what Cameron is looking for, if he gives the | :13:01. | :13:06. | |
Conservative Government a coherence that Cameron is rather lack to date, | :13:06. | :13:11. | |
then I think people will forget where he's come from. But if it is | :13:11. | :13:15. | |
just more of the same then I think it will really matter. Yes it does | :13:15. | :13:20. | |
matter. I think that there should be perhaps more people, more of an | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
open process, I think we also have to remember that all leaders tend | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
to, in China and Russia, tend to appoint people they know. Because | :13:27. | :13:32. | |
heeders are highly exposed and you like -- leaders are highly exposed | :13:32. | :13:36. | |
and you like to appoint people you know and trust or who share the | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
same kind of assumptions you do. Previous politicians have done | :13:39. | :13:46. | |
exactly the same thing. When Tony Blair appointed Charlie Faulkner | :13:46. | :13:54. | |
his old flatmate, or Derry Ervine the old barrister in his chambers. | :13:54. | :13:58. | |
The moment you appoint a 40-year- old, former journalist on the FT | :13:58. | :14:01. | |
with a first from Oxford, no-one would have questioned that until | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
suddenly you hear he went to Eton, it is appalling therefore. There | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
are trigger words we think some how it is awful because of being | :14:08. | :14:14. | |
associated with certain places. That is a form of reverse snobbery. | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
That would be true if every other cabinet we had ever seen wasn't | :14:18. | :14:23. | |
made up of this kind of political elite. It is a problem when every | :14:23. | :14:29. | |
time we see a cabinet formed we see more men than women, we see | :14:29. | :14:32. | |
increasing number of people going to private school, not just in the | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
cabinet but wider politics, particularly at the highest levels | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
across different political parties, I do think it does matter when | :14:38. | :14:42. | |
people are more disenfranchised than ever with the political system, | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
it bears huge importance. If we want people to participate in | :14:46. | :14:52. | |
democracy and get involved in civil society. It turns you off politics? | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
It turns me off wanting to be involved in politics or thinking | :14:55. | :15:00. | |
that I'm going to be leading civil society. Because I'm not a man, I | :15:00. | :15:05. | |
didn't go to Eton, I have not been to university and that's already | :15:05. | :15:10. | |
kind of sets me apart from these people. There is no barrier actual | :15:10. | :15:16. | |
lie holding back these people, I mean -- actually holding back these | :15:16. | :15:21. | |
people, I mean one of the most powerful women died a few weeks ago | :15:21. | :15:26. | |
and she wasn't held back because she didn't go to Eton. Those | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
barriers aren't there saying because you didn't go to Eton? | :15:29. | :15:34. | |
not sure that isn't there in 2013. I'm more with Toni, we are a | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
democracy we not only have to be fairer but be seen to be fairer to | :15:38. | :15:43. | |
women to all kinds of minority groups. What about quotas, wouldn't | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
it be crazy to appoint a woman to the job because she's a woman | :15:48. | :15:51. | |
rather than brilliant. We have to do much more than we are doing at | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
the moment. This country is not becoming more fair or more open to | :15:56. | :16:00. | |
minority groups and to people from ordinary backgrounds, it is | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
becoming if anything less. This is worrying. I think that schooling is | :16:05. | :16:09. | |
absolutely fundamental. We need to be doing for more our state schools, | :16:09. | :16:12. | |
not just to teach them really well, which the Government is trying to | :16:12. | :16:21. | |
do. But to give them the kind of confidences that Toni has. | :16:21. | :16:25. | |
unfairness is in the schools system. You can teach character and | :16:25. | :16:30. | |
confidence. I think we can also give these people more connections, | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
more of a sense of a leg-up and then we can have a society that | :16:34. | :16:38. | |
many people don't feel alienated from. Sarah Wollaston do you feel | :16:38. | :16:43. | |
excluded? No, I don't feel excluded. The point is Government works | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
better without patronage. Look at what happens to select committees, | :16:47. | :16:51. | |
they are more effective since we got rid of the whips appointing | :16:51. | :16:54. | |
them. They are more effective at challenging and holding Government | :16:54. | :16:58. | |
to account. That is why it is so important to get rid of patronage, | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
we will be better off for it. Some of the best advice any of us get is | :17:01. | :17:05. | |
from people who have a different world view and who we don't agree | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
with. This point about class, this obsession we have with class, you | :17:09. | :17:16. | |
are absolutely right, it is the mention of that magic word "Eton" | :17:16. | :17:21. | |
that conjures up all sorts of illusions. Are we getting over | :17:21. | :17:27. | |
that? Eton is and is opening an academy, it is trying to reach out | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
T has lots of bursaries. I think many more public schools could | :17:31. | :17:36. | |
follow Eton's lead. But many more other schools could follow the kind | :17:36. | :17:40. | |
of confidence building and the sense almost of entitlement to have | :17:40. | :17:45. | |
a good job. But public schools generally, and Eton particularly, | :17:46. | :17:50. | |
people in this kind of elite, they are a million miles away from the | :17:50. | :17:53. | |
majority of people who live in this country. That is the real problem | :17:53. | :17:57. | |
here. Actually I don't want my Government to feel a million miles | :17:57. | :18:01. | |
away from my experiences and my life. I know that the people I grew | :18:01. | :18:05. | |
up with, where I group up in the south west absolutely wouldn't want | :18:05. | :18:10. | |
their Government to feel a million miles away, and yet they do. There | :18:10. | :18:13. | |
is no way they could have that idea? I don't disagree with you. I | :18:14. | :18:19. | |
think something has to happen to make Britain a fairb irand a more | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
democratic -- fairer and more democratic country. If these people, | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
regardless of where they come from can institute changes to achieve | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
that and get voter turnout and participation in politics and civil | :18:30. | :18:33. | |
society, which afterall is the closest they have ever had to an | :18:33. | :18:38. | |
idea with their Big Society! If all this actually means something then | :18:38. | :18:40. | |
maybe these people will have achieved something. I'm not going | :18:40. | :18:47. | |
to ask you with what the fees are at your school? A lot. Thank you | :18:47. | :18:52. | |
all very much. Coming up, should people accused of | :18:52. | :18:56. | |
sex crimes remain anonymous until proven guilty. We talk to the | :18:56. | :19:01. | |
theatre director, Peter Brook. Theatre cannot be a mass medium and | :19:01. | :19:06. | |
thank good television has taken its place. | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
Many tributes were paid today to three British soldiers who were | :19:10. | :19:19. | |
killed in a bomb explosion in Helmand Province, Afghanistan. They | :19:19. | :19:26. | |
bring the total number of daeds to well over 1,000. Modern medicine | :19:26. | :19:29. | |
has aided many who once would have doid from their wounds to survive. | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
What happens to those young men and women after the noise of battle has | :19:32. | :19:39. | |
died, and they have had to rebuild their lives in new bodies. We have | :19:39. | :19:44. | |
been to Colorado where several hundred disabled veterans have come | :19:44. | :19:50. | |
together to learn how to ski as part of their rehabilitation. This | :19:50. | :19:55. | |
report contains some graphic images, and they talk as soldiers talk, in | :19:55. | :20:05. | |
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pretty direct language. The Colorado mountains. | :20:16. | :20:21. | |
400 disabled American veterans from all conflicts arrive for a week of | :20:21. | :20:27. | |
skiing and rehabilitation. Thank you so much for your service to our | :20:27. | :20:32. | |
country. Thank you for thanking us. Come closer, I like it when the | :20:32. | :20:37. | |
guys come closer. Alan Babin, a battlefield medic was seriously | :20:37. | :20:45. | |
injured during the invasion of Iraq. It was one of the fiercest battles | :20:45. | :20:50. | |
that the 82ndair bourne had been in since World War II. During the | :20:50. | :20:56. | |
battle, about three hours into it, one of his fellow paratroopers was | :20:56. | :21:03. | |
on the bridge and raised up to look and see what was coming. He was hit | :21:03. | :21:09. | |
with a gunshot wound to the head. A call for a medic rang out. Alan | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
left the safety of a covered position and ran through effective | :21:12. | :21:19. | |
gunfire to render aid. When he was hit. It was a gunshot wound to the | :21:19. | :21:25. | |
abdomen, through and through shot by an AK 47, however Alan lost 90% | :21:25. | :21:35. | |
of his stomach, his spleen, part of his pan crease, it grazed his liver | :21:35. | :21:39. | |
and diaphragm. The battle was so severe they couldn't extract him, | :21:39. | :21:45. | |
he lay on the hood of a gun truck for three-and-a-half hours. For me | :21:45. | :21:50. | |
first there is no thinking, when someone needs your help, you are | :21:50. | :21:59. | |
there to help, that's that. I just knew I had to be somewhere because | :21:59. | :22:06. | |
somebody needed me. Alan's wounds from the battlefield were very | :22:06. | :22:13. | |
severe, but when he got to Walter Reed, April 26th and started | :22:13. | :22:16. | |
undergoing more surgeries, he started to improve a little bit. | :22:16. | :22:22. | |
But the weekend of May 10th Alan contracted meningitis and suffered | :22:22. | :22:32. | |
:22:32. | :22:35. | ||
a stroke. Then for about two years Alan existed. Since 2001, almost | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
7,000 American service personnel have been killed in Iraq and | :22:39. | :22:48. | |
Afghanistan, 50,000 more wounded. Tell me what all this is? Ask him. | :22:48. | :22:55. | |
One of the event's big donors and architect of America's foreign | :22:55. | :23:01. | |
policy is America's former deputy secretary of defence. This is a | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
demanding version of boot camp. They are pushed to do things they | :23:04. | :23:08. | |
are afraid of and they thought they would never do before. Having done | :23:08. | :23:13. | |
that it keeps them going through the year. When I was no longer | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
having any official status to allow me to come I thought I want to | :23:16. | :23:22. | |
still come but I can't come and say I was a former X, Y or Z. I thought | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
the easist way is to be a sponsor. I could be a sponsor just giving | :23:26. | :23:36. | |
:23:36. | :23:41. | ||
money and not turning up. I turn up because I find it very satisfying. | :23:41. | :23:45. | |
Sergeant Dino Cedeno lost his leg eight month ago. I grew up in | :23:45. | :23:50. | |
Queens all my life. When we were attacked it changed lives. I was a | :23:50. | :23:53. | |
New Yorker and I felt there was a debt to be paid. One way or another | :23:53. | :23:58. | |
I could have done more than donate sandwiches and donate blood. We | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
knew we were going for Afghanistan after we got back from Iraq, it was | :24:01. | :24:06. | |
a matter of time. On a routine foot patrol his platoon entered the | :24:06. | :24:10. | |
village, he could see the ground had been disturbed, all the signs | :24:10. | :24:15. | |
of an IED. When I scanned and moved I couldn't find it t I know it is | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
right there, it is so obvious, unless they are trying to trick you | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
to come over here to mess around somewhere else. The next thing I | :24:22. | :24:30. | |
know I wake up Stateside and in a world of pain. Back in the states | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
Dino struggled with his injuries. I'm too proud to take my life. But | :24:34. | :24:44. | |
:24:44. | :24:45. | ||
for a long time it didn't sound like a bad idea. I didn't, I knew | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
my left leg could be amputated right to the hip. I didn't know my | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
near future, what it was. I begged my wife to get a divorce, she | :24:52. | :24:57. | |
doesn't deserve this. I felt like I failed her, I failed my friend, I | :24:57. | :25:01. | |
failed my buddies. Because they are over there fighting and I'm over | :25:01. | :25:06. | |
here trying to piece myself together, I guess. I thought it was | :25:06. | :25:16. | |
:25:16. | :25:17. | ||
over. I did have a falling through with alcoholism but I realiseed it | :25:17. | :25:25. | |
is not, I can't do it. It is no excuse for it. I can only cry so | :25:25. | :25:35. | |
:25:35. | :25:36. | ||
much. I can only look myself in a room and think woe is me for so | :25:36. | :25:41. | |
long, I have to keep going. Slowly the process of healing began. | :25:41. | :25:46. | |
very first or second day I was terrified, she popped me on the | :25:46. | :25:49. | |
Walker and put that belt on me and literally kicked me, go, you will | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
walk with one leg, you will hop. Want you to remember what it is | :25:53. | :26:03. | |
:26:03. | :26:04. | ||
like to be tall again. I wanted to quit. Previously a keen snowboarder, | :26:04. | :26:10. | |
today is Dino's first time back on the slopes as an amputee. We are | :26:10. | :26:18. | |
going to this way, we don't care, we are snowboarders, we are chill | :26:18. | :26:24. | |
td axed we don't wear ski suits et cetera. Lock no. Confident, don't | :26:24. | :26:34. | |
:26:34. | :26:54. | ||
Heel side turn right from the start. When the opportunity came for me to | :26:54. | :27:02. | |
starting to snowboarding I was thrilled, I was excited. But when | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
it had the realisation kicking in that I'm an amputee, and it is no | :27:07. | :27:13. | |
longer the same as it has been for the last 20 years I became angry. I | :27:13. | :27:19. | |
was frustrated. Because now I have to relearn something I have loved | :27:19. | :27:29. | |
:27:29. | :27:30. | ||
doing. For crying out loud, my leg just popped off! The knee has | :27:30. | :27:35. | |
several gyroscopes and microprocessors to constantly think | :27:35. | :27:41. | |
I can go from a slow crawl to a full sprint. I can go up the stairs, | :27:41. | :27:46. | |
down the stairs, down the hill, it knows the angles. I'm still | :27:46. | :27:50. | |
learning how to use it. There is so many features behind it. It brought | :27:50. | :28:00. | |
:28:00. | :28:09. | ||
back a sense of normality to me. was nervous about coming here. I | :28:09. | :28:16. | |
didn't know who these people were and I didn't know if they knew me | :28:16. | :28:25. | |
or my situation so I was pretty much sceptical about this whole | :28:25. | :28:35. | |
:28:35. | :28:37. | ||
thing. We arrived not prepared for the emotions that we were going to | :28:37. | :28:43. | |
experience watching, not just Alan ski, but blind skiiers on the side | :28:43. | :28:52. | |
of the mountain and amputees. Saturday morning, before we got | :28:52. | :28:56. | |
ready to leave I asked him what his favourite part of the clinic had | :28:56. | :29:06. | |
:29:06. | :29:06. | ||
been, fully expecting him to choose an activity. He said I felt normal. | :29:06. | :29:12. | |
For a mother with his level of injuries and the impact that it had | :29:12. | :29:17. | |
on our lives it was huge because for Alan to suddenly feel normal I | :29:17. | :29:21. | |
was going to do whatever it took to get him involved in these types of | :29:21. | :29:31. | |
:29:31. | :29:33. | ||
things. At the end of the week I was feeling so much better about | :29:33. | :29:43. | |
:29:43. | :29:44. | ||
who I was. Yeah! How ya doing! consequences of war are highly | :29:44. | :29:49. | |
visible here, what about those who make the decisions to go to war? | :29:49. | :29:53. | |
have heard too much glib commentary that people who make these | :29:53. | :29:58. | |
decisions don't appreciate what is involved. I think the people I have | :29:58. | :30:02. | |
known who have had to make them, whether it was about Desert Storm | :30:02. | :30:07. | |
20 years ago or about Afghanistan and Iraq Wars more recently are | :30:07. | :30:13. | |
quite aware of how terrible it is. But they have to weigh the | :30:13. | :30:19. | |
consequences of taking on those risks and dangers with the | :30:19. | :30:22. | |
consequences of not taking them on. What I have gained in the last few | :30:22. | :30:26. | |
days will give me the right ammunition to keep the fight at my | :30:26. | :30:34. | |
job, to feel me, to physically push me out there. There isn't anything | :30:34. | :30:41. | |
that this is going to stop me. is just day one of another 31 more | :30:41. | :30:51. | |
:30:51. | :30:51. | ||
years to go. It is a whole other way to start it. We're out of here. | :30:51. | :31:01. | |
These are the cards I was dealt so I'm going to play my hand. I don't | :31:01. | :31:05. | |
think any of us anticipated the level of injuries that some of | :31:05. | :31:10. | |
these men and women were going to be coming home with. The impact | :31:10. | :31:16. | |
that it would have on the rest of our lives because for us the war | :31:16. | :31:26. | |
:31:26. | :31:27. | ||
continues on a daily basis. That report from Jonathan Bell. The | :31:27. | :31:33. | |
formal police statement just said that an 81-year-old man had been | :31:33. | :31:37. | |
arrested in connection with the rape of a girl that occurred 41 | :31:37. | :31:44. | |
years ago, everyone knows the man is Bill Roache, the world's | :31:44. | :31:47. | |
longest-serving soap car, playing Ken Barlow, he was tonight charged | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
with two counts of rape. Are we entitled to know that before a | :31:50. | :31:54. | |
single word has been heard in court. Recently Mr Roache recently claimed | :31:54. | :32:00. | |
that anyone accused of rape should be entitled to the same anonymity | :32:00. | :32:04. | |
grant today their alleged victims. Anybody can make an allegation, | :32:04. | :32:07. | |
until an allegation is proven or going to court there should be | :32:07. | :32:12. | |
anonymity for both parties. These people are instantly stigmatised, | :32:12. | :32:16. | |
some will be innocent and some will not. Until such time as it is | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
proven there should be anonymity for both. Let's discuss this now | :32:20. | :32:24. | |
with Christine Hamilton, who along with her husband, the former MP | :32:24. | :32:30. | |
Neil Hamilton were both falsely charged of sexual offences and with | :32:30. | :32:36. | |
Sarah Green from the Campaign Group End Violence Against Women. You | :32:36. | :32:39. | |
were falsely accused, you were never even charged, how long- | :32:39. | :32:44. | |
lasting was the damage? We were accused of actual rape, not just a | :32:44. | :32:46. | |
sexual offence. We were held at Barkingside Police Station, and | :32:46. | :32:50. | |
that is when we were accused, for five hours. Which was a pretty | :32:50. | :32:54. | |
horrendous experience. By the time we came out of the Police Station | :32:54. | :32:58. | |
we were told we were being asked to go to Barkingside because nobody | :32:58. | :33:04. | |
would know we were there. By the time we came out the whole media | :33:04. | :33:07. | |
were there. Somebody told them they were there. We were on bail for two | :33:07. | :33:10. | |
weeks before the police backed down and accepted that we had never even | :33:10. | :33:14. | |
met the girl in question. I don't feel that our names should ever | :33:14. | :33:17. | |
have been out there. The only reason that the world, if they | :33:17. | :33:21. | |
wished to know, knows who she is, is because she sold her anonymity | :33:21. | :33:29. | |
to the News of the World. I think what she did, her name is Nadine | :33:29. | :33:32. | |
Milroy Sloane, I can say that because she took �50,000 in | :33:32. | :33:36. | |
exchange for revealing her name from the News of the World, she did | :33:36. | :33:41. | |
a massive disservice to genuine rape Vic tills, because any time a | :33:41. | :33:45. | |
-- victim, because any time a girl like her calls wolf it makes it | :33:45. | :33:51. | |
more difficult for a genuine victim to be heard. Let's loaf aside the | :33:51. | :33:55. | |
particular circumstance of that particular -- leave aside a | :33:55. | :33:59. | |
particular circumstance of a circumstance woman. This was a | :33:59. | :34:04. | |
woman falsely accused and held up to public approbium and nothing | :34:04. | :34:08. | |
happened? It is terrible to be accused of a crime that you haven't | :34:08. | :34:12. | |
committed. There are provisions in place, including restricted | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
reporting and contempt of court. Fundamentally the presumption of | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
innocence, because it is not a conviction, it is about your name | :34:18. | :34:22. | |
being known in the public sphere. We need to go right down to the | :34:22. | :34:26. | |
legal basic, why do we know who is accused of a crime. In our legal | :34:26. | :34:29. | |
system in the open justice system, part of our democratic ways of | :34:29. | :34:32. | |
doing things, we know when someone is accused of a crime. The state | :34:32. | :34:35. | |
makes that known in order that somebody who might be able to | :34:35. | :34:39. | |
coroborate, somebody who might give extra testimony can come forward. | :34:39. | :34:43. | |
Equally so somebody who can refute it and say no, that person didn't | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
do it because they were with me that night. That is why we make the | :34:46. | :34:50. | |
names of the accused known. We have a special exemption of victims of | :34:50. | :34:53. | |
sexual offences, I think the mistake really comes in when we | :34:53. | :34:56. | |
start saying there is parity between the two sides. There isn't | :34:56. | :35:00. | |
parity between those accused of crimes and victims. We will come to | :35:00. | :35:04. | |
the victims in a moment or two. What do you make of the argument | :35:04. | :35:09. | |
that it service justice? In the vast majority of rape cases the two | :35:09. | :35:13. | |
people concerned they know each other, there is usually absolutely | :35:13. | :35:16. | |
no evidence whatsoever, it comes down to one person's word against | :35:16. | :35:19. | |
another. If you say you need to name the alleged perpetrator | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
because then other people will come forward. First of all you are | :35:22. | :35:26. | |
assuming they are guilty. I don't like this phrase. It is not a | :35:26. | :35:29. | |
presumption you are guilty, it is letting the community know that | :35:29. | :35:32. | |
somebody has been ayes cues of a very serious crime. What is known | :35:32. | :35:39. | |
about rape of the What if it is a tissue of lies. Our own criminal | :35:39. | :35:41. | |
justice statistics show those who commit rape commit it again and | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
again, and interviews with men who admit to committing rape show men | :35:45. | :35:48. | |
commit it again and again. It is something we have to have on record. | :35:48. | :35:52. | |
You are making the assumption that every man accused of rape is guilty | :35:52. | :35:57. | |
of rape. I'm not making that presumption. The man unjustly | :35:57. | :36:03. | |
accused of rape, let's take Bill Roache, I have to idea, let's sume | :36:03. | :36:07. | |
he's 100% innocent, he's an internationally known star, his | :36:07. | :36:10. | |
name is around the world, even if he's completely cleared at the end | :36:10. | :36:13. | |
of the day and totally 100% innocent, there will always be a | :36:13. | :36:17. | |
huge number of people who will think no smoke without fire. The | :36:17. | :36:22. | |
person who accused him we will never know who they are. We have to | :36:22. | :36:25. | |
depend in our open society with open justice we have to have the | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
presumption of innocence. You were never convicted of everything. | :36:29. | :36:32. | |
don't have open justice in this. You have to remember the protection | :36:32. | :36:37. | |
is there for the victims. It don't apply in any other crime. It is a | :36:37. | :36:41. | |
special crime, because of what rape and sexual offences are, because of | :36:41. | :36:47. | |
who commits them and why and how. It should apply to the perpetrator? | :36:47. | :36:51. | |
They are not equal parties, state is accusing someone of a crime, the | :36:51. | :36:55. | |
witness is a person in their own place. The person is protected | :36:55. | :36:59. | |
because of the known shame around sexual offences and many victims | :36:59. | :37:03. | |
wouldn't report. There is no shame about being accused falsely? It is | :37:03. | :37:09. | |
not the same. We only have to talk about Jimmy Savile and the evidence | :37:09. | :37:13. | |
that emerged. The case in Rochdale and child grooming prosecutions | :37:13. | :37:15. | |
where you have perpetrators committing many crimes against many | :37:15. | :37:19. | |
victim who is are targeted usually because of their vulnerability. | :37:19. | :37:25. | |
Girls and so on. They are not equal parties, they are not the same. | :37:25. | :37:29. | |
have turned the whole basis of British justice on the head, ever | :37:29. | :37:34. | |
since Magna Carta, the whole basis of the system is the accused and | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
accuser should face each other in open court. It is not what happens, | :37:37. | :37:42. | |
the state faces those accused. fully understand why people who | :37:42. | :37:45. | |
have been raped want anonymity, I'm not saying they shouldn't have it. | :37:45. | :37:51. | |
I just think, it used to be the case that everybody was named, or | :37:51. | :37:54. | |
everybody was anonymous, I think the pendulum has swung too far. | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
There are plenty of cases, I'm not going to name them, where the men | :37:58. | :38:02. | |
have been accused and hung out to try and they have been proved to be | :38:02. | :38:06. | |
innocent. We know who they are. If you name them you add to their | :38:06. | :38:09. | |
agony. If the consequence of the change in the law you seek was that | :38:09. | :38:13. | |
fewer rapists were convicted, would you think it was a good thing? | :38:13. | :38:16. | |
is why the Government has thrown it out. The coalition Government | :38:16. | :38:20. | |
looked at this and looked at the arguments made for having anonymity | :38:20. | :38:23. | |
for those accused, they were deemed less significant than the damage | :38:23. | :38:26. | |
that would be done by having anonymity. Let her answer the | :38:26. | :38:30. | |
question. There is no law that you can frame that will be right in | :38:30. | :38:32. | |
every circumstance, of course there isn't. It is not going to be | :38:32. | :38:37. | |
possible to do that. I just feel that of course some men will get | :38:37. | :38:40. | |
away with rape, of course they will. Men get away with it every day. | :38:40. | :38:47. | |
can do something about it. Some women, we know they cry wolf. | :38:47. | :38:50. | |
just in March the CPS published a very authoritative and | :38:50. | :38:53. | |
comprehensive report on called false allegations, it looked at 18 | :38:53. | :38:56. | |
months of cases, a really interesting report and well | :38:56. | :39:00. | |
reported, it looked at the fact that false allegations for rape are | :39:00. | :39:03. | |
no different than they are for any other crime, they are single- | :39:03. | :39:06. | |
significant statistics, it is a myth and very damaging rape myth | :39:06. | :39:10. | |
that women make it up. It is not the case. Those who do, who are | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
actually accused and found for doing false allegations tend to be | :39:13. | :39:16. | |
very vulnerable people. It is almost impossible to come up with | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
any statistics that are foolproof, by definition we don't know do we. | :39:20. | :39:26. | |
I know the statistic that only 6% of rapes are coming to conviction, | :39:26. | :39:31. | |
it is 6% of reported rapes. The CPS decides, it is not because a woman | :39:31. | :39:34. | |
is lying it is just because the evidence is perhaps flimsy and they | :39:34. | :39:39. | |
are not going to get a conviction. That is not why a lot of cases | :39:39. | :39:44. | |
don't reach it is because victims have to pull out. Now for something | :39:44. | :39:47. | |
entirely familiar, did Shakespeare write Shakespeare. People have been | :39:47. | :39:52. | |
claiming that he was a front or a fraud for 150 years and really his | :39:52. | :39:57. | |
plays were written by Francis Bacon, Christopher Marlowe, the Earl of | :39:57. | :40:03. | |
Oxford, Lord Lucan, Shergar or Dale Winton. Now, forgive the very sub- | :40:03. | :40:06. | |
Shakespearian cliche, one of the grand old men of theatre has told | :40:06. | :40:10. | |
everyone to snap out of it. When Peter Brook speaks, people tend to | :40:10. | :40:16. | |
listen, Stephen Smith certainly did. I just wanted to write a short | :40:16. | :40:24. | |
little familiar flet to make fun and destroy it by a -- pamphlet to | :40:24. | :40:27. | |
make fun and destroy for once and for all that someone else wrote | :40:27. | :40:33. | |
Shakespeare. While Peter Brook ought to know, the veteran director | :40:33. | :40:37. | |
of Shakespeare, this was his Tempest, he's taking on the | :40:37. | :40:40. | |
stubborn conspiracy theory surrounding the Bard. If he was a | :40:40. | :40:47. | |
phoney, and didn't write the plays he would be derided by his rivals. | :40:47. | :40:53. | |
There were many other writers and they were as bitchy and gelous as | :40:53. | :40:58. | |
all writers were. Here was a successful writer, but nobody wrote | :40:58. | :41:01. | |
a pamphlet, left a little note or stood at a street corner or stood | :41:01. | :41:08. | |
up in a pub to say this guy is a fake. And it took two centuries | :41:08. | :41:13. | |
before it suddenly occurred to somebody and that was this man with | :41:13. | :41:22. | |
this good-given name of Mr Lun ee who defended Shakespeare. I know a | :41:22. | :41:30. | |
bank where the wild thyme blows, where oxslips and the wild valleys | :41:30. | :41:37. | |
grow. When plays like A Midsummer Night's Dream were put on, a | :41:37. | :41:44. | |
century before the didgeridoos were added, Shakespeare must have been | :41:44. | :41:49. | |
on hand to cover the awkward moments. When I did my first | :41:49. | :41:54. | |
production at Stratford, in the middle of the first scene change, | :41:54. | :41:59. | |
they were out on where the curtains closed, there was an enormous clash, | :41:59. | :42:05. | |
all the scenery had collapsed. But he knew immediately that he had to | :42:05. | :42:09. | |
find ways of improvising and filling in five minutes. Were you | :42:09. | :42:13. | |
watching what was going through your mind? I was just hoping that | :42:14. | :42:22. | |
he could go on filling it. He did it by, he had a little front stage | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
speech to do, he did it by marvellous pauses, and filling them | :42:26. | :42:33. | |
with a look and a smile. Brook directed this acclaimed adaptation | :42:33. | :42:37. | |
of the Lord of the Flies. And the job before this was a musical in | :42:37. | :42:46. | |
the West End, if you can believe it. But his reputation is as a prophet | :42:46. | :42:50. | |
in the wildness, turning his back on easy hits, in favour of | :42:50. | :42:55. | |
exploring Shakespeare in Africa, the Middle East and the Australian | :42:55. | :42:59. | |
bush. There are directors who stay in this country who do very well, | :42:59. | :43:05. | |
who accept various gongs and so on, and from their perspective you were | :43:06. | :43:12. | |
roughing it out, you were out in the back of beyond sometimes. | :43:12. | :43:16. | |
Because I mean all that is secondary. Never, never to be | :43:16. | :43:21. | |
imprisoned by that need to do the next play, to make a hit, because | :43:21. | :43:26. | |
you are in a series of hit and you have to continue with it. Never to | :43:26. | :43:33. | |
this day have I done that. The rise and fall of President | :43:33. | :43:36. | |
Hollande, unpopular with the French because of unemployment and the | :43:36. | :43:39. | |
economy has been followed with interest by Peter Brook, who has | :43:39. | :43:47. | |
lived and worked in Paris for many years. He is in very, very great | :43:47. | :43:55. | |
trouble. Only time will show whether what a lot of people said | :43:55. | :44:00. | |
before he was elected, which was that while he was apparently a | :44:00. | :44:07. | |
charming, intelligent, witty cultivated man in every day life | :44:07. | :44:12. | |
and had been secretary of the party for a long time, he never had any | :44:12. | :44:16. | |
administrative expowerence at all in Government. | :44:16. | :44:20. | |
Peter Brook, during his most recent excursion on to the London boards, | :44:20. | :44:25. | |
he says he now favours the most strict back production possible. | :44:25. | :44:32. | |
He's still a true believer in the power of theatre. Theatre cannot be | :44:32. | :44:37. | |
a mass medium, and thank good television has taken its place. So | :44:37. | :44:44. | |
it is no longer elitist to say that a theatre with 500 seats is doing a | :44:44. | :44:50. | |
very valuable service to the 500 people who prefer to go there than | :44:50. | :44:57. | |
to do 100 other things. What about the old country? How is that | :44:57. | :45:04. | |
looking from the other end of the Eurostar tunnel? My impression is | :45:04. | :45:09. | |
that what is strong in England, very strongly in London, very | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
strongly in everything that's creative is that there is, once | :45:12. | :45:19. | |
again, a tremendous vitality, a tremendous surge of creativity. | :45:19. | :45:23. | |
People say that this was the conference of the Olympic Games, | :45:23. | :45:31. | |
that is too easy an answer, but in the flux of time, this is returning. | :45:31. | :45:36. | |
So England, I don't feel at the moment, is a defeated country. | :45:36. | :45:40. | |
Although the problems are as big as anywhere in the continent. So the | :45:40. | :45:45. | |
moment is ripe for you to return here, Peter? Maybe, why not. | :45:45. | :45:50. | |
not. Why stay over there, why deny us. Because I have got so much | :45:50. | :46:00. | |
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going on! Tomorrow morning's front That's it, let us leave you with | :46:23. | :46:26. | |
something rather astonishing, a clever bunch of people at IBM have | :46:26. | :46:32. | |
made the smallest movie ever produced. They have manipulated | :46:32. | :46:37. | |
individual atoms in a top-frame film. If you want to try it at home | :46:37. | :46:40. | |
you need magnification of 100 million or so. This is individual | :46:41. | :46:50. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 40 seconds | :46:51. | :47:31. | |
atoms, the very smallest particles Good evening. Tomorrow most places | :47:31. | :47:36. | |
will begin on a dry, some what chilly note. We have got a bit more | :47:36. | :47:38. | |
cloud to the south-east and the North West corner, but inbetween | :47:38. | :47:42. | |
some sunny spells developing, across Scotland some rain generally, | :47:42. | :47:46. | |
maybe a bit of hill snow mixed in there as well. A few rain showers | :47:46. | :47:49. | |
by the afternoon, scattered across Northern Ireland. The rain could be | :47:49. | :47:55. | |
quite heavy for the Western Isles, and temperatures in tornaway really | :47:56. | :47:59. | |
struggling. -- Stornaway really struggling. Looking at highs and | :47:59. | :48:03. | |
lows of 13, it might be a grey day. A better chance of keeping some | :48:03. | :48:08. | |
sunshine for England and Wales. There is a small chance of a shower | :48:08. | :48:12. | |
developing, you will be unlucky if you do catch un. 15-16 degrees | :48:12. | :48:17. | |
could be possible, a few degrees higher in a few place, 17-18. For | :48:17. | :48:21. | |
south-west England, the south coast having cloud. For North Devon and | :48:21. | :48:24. | |
Cornwall we will keep hold of sunshine. A small risk of a shower | :48:24. | :48:29. | |
for Wales. But overall it is dry and it is bright. On Friday the | :48:29. | :48:32. | |
cloud increases to the North West, across Scotland and Northern | :48:32. | :48:36. | |
Ireland, that rainband turns heavier and starts to move its way | :48:36. | :48:39. | |
further south. Although it will cloud over across England and Wales, | :48:39. | :48:43. | |
we are still just about keeping hold of sunshine for south-east | :48:43. | :48:47. |