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A tonight the companies employing our teenagers for no wages. The new | :00:09. | :00:16. | |
reality of the jobs market or state-sanctioned exploitation. | :00:16. | :00:19. | |
Remember this? Tonight all will be revealed, it is called the Internet | :00:19. | :00:22. | |
of things, and it is going to change your life. And...Hello | :00:22. | :00:31. | |
Newsnight, I'm Usain Bolt, I'm a phenomenon and a legend. | :00:31. | :00:43. | |
Hello good evening. We will have a look at the explosives new | :00:43. | :00:49. | |
biography Kevin McBride. First this programme has learned that one of | :00:49. | :00:54. | |
the best new repair firms for cars is using a Government scheme to | :00:55. | :01:00. | |
recruit workers for free. Kwik Fit has offered young people work for | :01:00. | :01:10. | |
nothing. The company gets £1600 for each rainy, they get nothing. -- | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
trainee. How do you see it? Cars are my passion, always has | :01:15. | :01:21. | |
been, ever since I was a little boy. When it comes to cars the best way | :01:21. | :01:26. | |
of learning is hands on, that is probably, my favourite way. For | :01:26. | :01:30. | |
thousands of teenager, this is the very first step on a very long | :01:30. | :01:37. | |
ladder. These apprentices are the lucky one, with youth unemployment | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
still nudging in a million, it is harder than ever to get nearer that | :01:41. | :01:48. | |
dream job. It is hard to get jobs, it is hard to like us to get into | :01:48. | :01:52. | |
the apprenticeship we got in to, it was hard to get. For years the | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
the apprenticeship we got in to, it traditional route for a car | :01:56. | :02:00. | |
mechanic, chef or nursery nurse has been through an apprenticeship | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
scheme, you study at college at the same time earning money in a proper | :02:04. | :02:08. | |
job, if only at £2.65 an hour. There is, though, still a large | :02:08. | :02:12. | |
group of young people who struggle to get this far. The answer, says | :02:12. | :02:16. | |
the Government, is a new type of scheme, designed to help the most | :02:16. | :02:22. | |
disadvantaged. Traineeships are meant to combine work experience | :02:22. | :02:23. | |
disadvantaged. Traineeships are with classes in English and maths, | :02:23. | :02:27. | |
plus general skills like CV writing, they run for up to five months, but | :02:27. | :02:33. | |
they are exempt from minimum wage legislation. Over 100 firms have | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
said they are interested in taking part, with a big push by the | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
Government expected this autumn. One of the first high street brands | :02:40. | :02:45. | |
to sign up to the scheme is the car repair firm Kwik Fit, it is already | :02:45. | :02:50. | |
advertising traineeships on-line. They read very much like any normal | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
job advert, the position is advertised for five months, the | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
working week is up to 39 hours, Tuesday to Saturday. All this is | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
completely voluntary, but also completely unpaid. Nick has been | :03:02. | :03:09. | |
closely watching the further education sector for years, he | :03:09. | :03:13. | |
first spotted the Kwik Fit advert this week and a number of others | :03:13. | :03:17. | |
like it? Traineeships have been the opportunity to be a fantastic | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
programme for young people to get into work and a full-time job. Here | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
we are talking about young people unpaid working up to 900 or more | :03:23. | :03:31. | |
hours, for a big employer with multimillion pound profits, they | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
need to pay for the benefit of having employees. In this case they | :03:35. | :03:39. | |
are not. Kwik Fit is already a big employer of apprentices, and denies | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
this new scheme is anything like exploitation. There is no | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
suggestion the firm is breaking the rules, but it is getting £1600 per | :03:46. | :03:51. | |
trainee from the Government. In statement the company said: | :03:51. | :04:10. | |
The Government has had its own problems with work experience. Last | :04:10. | :04:16. | |
year there was sitdown protests, after it tried to introduce | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
benefits sanctions for people who refused to sign up to the schemes. | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
Ministers are though convinced that these kinds of programmes can be | :04:23. | :04:29. | |
affective. Crucial -- Effective. Crucially work experience works, I | :04:29. | :04:35. | |
want to tackle youth unemployment, all the experience shows that | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
working, English and maths are the three crucial things for young | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
people to get maths. That is why we have designed traineeships in this | :04:41. | :04:47. | |
way, especially where they can lead into apprenticeships which help | :04:47. | :04:50. | |
people get more skills in work in a job and help tackle youth | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
unemployment. For some of today's teenagers it is a tough choice, | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
work for free or don't work at all. When I went to my interview for the | :04:59. | :05:05. | |
job I said I couldn't care less I was getting paid because cars I are | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
all I want to do. You should expect to be paid, if you are putting | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
yourself out you need to be rewarded with something. | :05:12. | :05:17. | |
Tonight after questions from Newsnight Kwik Fit withdrew its job | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
advertisment and replaced with a new version. It now says that | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
although its work experience programme is expected to last five | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
months, it may well finish sooner, it says there will now be a | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
guaranteed job interview for every trainee at the end of the process. | :05:32. | :05:39. | |
Is it a convenient way to get kids to work for nothing, or is it just | :05:39. | :05:43. | |
the new reality in a jobs market that is tight. With me is Toby | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
Perkins, shadow Business Minister, and Lottie Dexter, who campaigns | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
for jobs for young people. The One Million Campaign. You heard the | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
young guy there say he couldn't care less if he got paid because | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
this is what he wants to. Do I guess of any kind is better than no | :05:59. | :06:04. | |
work? It is. But it is a pretty sad reflection on the state of our | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
economy and the way that the Government are making us into a | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
low-wage economy that people are now going to be working for five | :06:09. | :06:13. | |
months on the bays that they will then, if they make the grade, be | :06:13. | :06:18. | |
given an opportunity to go for an interview, in order to go on to an | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
apprenticeship, to work for below minimum wage for two years. What it | :06:23. | :06:24. | |
apprenticeship, to work for below really shows you is, yes it is a | :06:24. | :06:31. | |
new reality for people in Cameron's Britain. You have made up that | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
trajectory, they are working for five months for free, which many | :06:34. | :06:39. | |
people would call training, apprenticeship? People would call | :06:39. | :06:40. | |
it that. Apprenticeships are a low- apprenticeship? People would call | :06:40. | :06:47. | |
income way of a company having a qi quid pro quo, where at the same | :06:47. | :06:52. | |
time that you are developing you are developing your skills and you | :06:52. | :06:56. | |
are working. Now we have a qualification period to get on to | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
the apprenticeship. When I was 17 I was on £35 a week on a YTS, he | :07:00. | :07:06. | |
never thought that many years later £35 was too much to pay young | :07:06. | :07:10. | |
people. Are we selling young people down the plughole? We have far too | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
many young people leaving school without the experience or skills | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
needed to get an actual job, we have nearly one million young | :07:17. | :07:22. | |
people unemployed, traineeships bridge what is very often a very | :07:22. | :07:28. | |
scary and dicey journey from school into work. You would say to people | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
go and do this, it doesn't matter if you have a five-day a week | :07:32. | :07:38. | |
without being paid go and do it? I have run a lobby group for jobs for | :07:38. | :07:43. | |
young people, we have spoken to a group before going on this | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
programme, they say they would prefer to go working in a real | :07:46. | :07:50. | |
garage with real mechanics and interacting with customers, than | :07:50. | :07:56. | |
they would sitting behind a desk and being force fed by teachers, we | :07:56. | :08:00. | |
shouldn't write these off. Are you saying that employers shouldn't put | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
these out? You can't blame them if they have this opportunity. What is | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
your message to Kwik Fit? My message is that we have got | :08:08. | :08:11. | |
apprenticeships there, they are really valuable tool. A the lot of | :08:11. | :08:18. | |
young people aren't ready for apprenticeships, that is why we | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
need traineeships, because they have been failed by an education | :08:21. | :08:26. | |
system that isn't working. The whole point of the apprenticeships | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
is people came out of school and earned a low wage at the time the | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
company were spending time with them and getting ready for a job | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
market and they can't be paid for doing that. Pbgt aweren't tisships | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
are great and perform very well, but they are not. Apprenticeships | :08:41. | :08:47. | |
are great and perform well, there are a group of people unable to | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
take them up and not ready, and that was because education failed | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
under the Labour Government. Where you have a kid with one of these | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
training schemes who wakes up with a hangover who thinks, you know | :08:58. | :09:00. | |
training schemes who wakes up with what I'm not getting paid any way, | :09:00. | :09:04. | |
I might not go this week or whatever, you don't get that sense | :09:04. | :09:07. | |
of what you are actually working towards, do you? For a traineeship, | :09:07. | :09:12. | |
that is the point, it instills work ethic, it builds an attitude, | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
rather than going to school you are going in and interacting with | :09:15. | :09:17. | |
colleagues, you are meeting your boss, you are taking on that | :09:17. | :09:19. | |
responsibility. That is the point of a traineeship. It is to get the | :09:19. | :09:24. | |
hardest to help, the most vulnerable young people who are the | :09:24. | :09:27. | |
furthest away from the jobs market a link from school into a training | :09:27. | :09:32. | |
scheme, into an apprenticeship, which are very important. It does | :09:32. | :09:37. | |
seem odd, Labour has already taken us down this workfare path, what is | :09:37. | :09:41. | |
your argument when this was started really under Tony Blair? This | :09:41. | :09:44. | |
wasn't started under Tony Blair, we have a plan in terms of the long- | :09:44. | :09:49. | |
term unemployed with the job sharing. You did the Primark | :09:50. | :09:53. | |
schemes? We have the Future Jobs Fund which this Government | :09:53. | :09:57. | |
abolished, they have abolished mandatory work experience, we heard | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
the minister say that work experience is important. They have | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
cut back on the careers service, they have further education, a key | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
part in all of this, massive cuts. Let's go back to what you would do | :10:06. | :10:11. | |
at this point. Would you actually go out please don't take the | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
Government up on these schemes, do not offer these five-month schemes, | :10:16. | :10:20. | |
what would you do? I'm not saying to employers that they shouldn't | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
take it up. Why aren't you if you feel so strongly? The point is the | :10:24. | :10:28. | |
Government is creating a low- skilled, low-wage economy, because | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
their entire strategy is around getting people to work either for | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
free or nothing. They have a minimum wage, but at the same time | :10:35. | :10:38. | |
they keep kinding ways to not do that. Traineeships are important, | :10:38. | :10:42. | |
we need them. Thank you very much both of you. | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
With two days to go to the Labour conference, an explosive new tone | :10:45. | :10:50. | |
to add to your pile of new Labour memoirs, Damian McBride has written | :10:50. | :10:58. | |
his account of his time in power, it is promising to be a tell-all, | :10:58. | :11:03. | |
smears and all sorts only read about in fiction. It is serialised | :11:03. | :11:08. | |
in the Mail exclusively from tomorrow. We have it hot off the | :11:08. | :11:12. | |
press. What is in the book? It doesn't promise it is. These two | :11:12. | :11:18. | |
pages in it have a series of assassinations, he admits himself | :11:18. | :11:22. | |
he took down John Reid, Charles Clarke, Ivan, we have a few quotes. | :11:22. | :11:30. | |
He talks about how he's this inversion of a priest, people come | :11:30. | :11:36. | |
to him, tell him the sins of people they don't like in the hope that he | :11:36. | :11:40. | |
publicises them more widely. He's very honest about what he did. It | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
is one of the most honest and gruesome accounts of being a spin | :11:44. | :11:47. | |
doctor that I do actually think one of the last implications could be | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
that it does shock quite a few viewers/readers, it exposes how | :11:52. | :11:55. | |
people do politics at the top of Westminster. In case we thought | :11:55. | :11:59. | |
that politic was clean and lovely! Indeed, most people thought it was | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
pretty hardcore. Except he details, goes through exactly how you hack | :12:03. | :12:05. | |
into a Government account, exactly Despite the comfortable familiarity, | :12:05. | :15:57. | |
they say there are problems that Despite the comfortable familiarity, | :15:58. | :16:03. | |
come with this. The borough is now 17% white British. Loads of people | :16:03. | :16:08. | |
living in our streets were English people, but over the years, 34-macro | :16:09. | :16:19. | |
years, -- three or four years, I have been people coming in from | :16:19. | :16:23. | |
other communities and settling down. The couple admit that it is | :16:23. | :16:27. | |
largely Indian is that they spend their time with, rather than | :16:27. | :16:29. | |
largely Indian is that they spend widening their social group. And it | :16:29. | :16:33. | |
is this instinct that the mayor wants to counter. As this borough | :16:33. | :16:38. | |
becomes increasingly diverse, the mayor has introduced a series of | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
fairly bold measures aimed at holding on to some of the | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
Britishness. In libraries, he has removed foreign language newspapers | :16:47. | :16:51. | |
and withdrawn translation services. He will no longer fund a single | :16:51. | :16:56. | |
community events. Sir Robin Wales has been the directly elected mayor | :16:56. | :17:01. | |
since 2002. Before that, he was council leader here. We don't make | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
people integrate we just encourage it. We can't make anybody do | :17:07. | :17:11. | |
anything. People spent time with their own ethnic group and religion | :17:11. | :17:16. | |
and that is great, and often they contribute to a community | :17:16. | :17:18. | |
tremendously and do good things, but we say that if we are doing | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
something we will support people coming together. I am strongly of | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
the view that if you try to segregate people into different | :17:26. | :17:29. | |
groups and keep them separate, that is not only bad for individuals but | :17:29. | :17:36. | |
the community that you do it too. Apartheid was wrong in South Africa | :17:36. | :17:40. | |
and it would be wrong here. Keeping people separate must be a bad thing. | :17:40. | :17:51. | |
It was also the first local authority in England to introduce | :17:51. | :17:58. | |
landlord regulations, and they have to release convictions and live up | :17:58. | :18:02. | |
to British standards here. Counsel police officers are looking for a | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
rogue landlords and an acceptable living conditions, things like whole | :18:06. | :18:11. | |
families living in one room, which the mayor would consider unBritish. | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
Also if they find suspected illegal immigrants on the raid, they will be | :18:15. | :18:20. | |
handed over. The Mayor wants to know how many houses in his borough are | :18:20. | :18:26. | |
like this one. The landlords that these tenants pay their rent to does | :18:26. | :18:33. | |
not have a licence from the councils they will be subject to a fine. | :18:33. | :18:40. | |
Altogether 15 people live in this three-bedroom house. Everybody is | :18:40. | :18:42. | |
aware of the conditions and the law and they are being exploited, but | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
still they have to take it the hard way because they have no other | :18:46. | :18:54. | |
chance. Very few people object to cracking down on poor housing | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
conditions, but the Mayor's overall agenda is divisive. Absolutely | :18:57. | :19:02. | |
people should integrate but they should not be forced to assimilate. | :19:02. | :19:05. | |
people should integrate but they I can understand if you are not | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
using your translation services and I can understand if you are not | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
at a time when local authorities have to save money and you realised | :19:11. | :19:15. | |
some of the services are not value for money that you could remove | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
them. But if you are removing them from vulnerable people that need | :19:19. | :19:24. | |
them, for ideological reasons, then that starts to make you question | :19:24. | :19:27. | |
what the values are of the people doing it. Newham recently rejected | :19:27. | :19:39. | |
plans to build the biggest mosque in the borough. Critics argue this was | :19:39. | :19:43. | |
another ideological decision. The mayor insists that it was simply not | :19:43. | :19:48. | |
the right place for it. Some people find your policy is offensive. They | :19:48. | :19:53. | |
say you are denying people's heritage and ignore it. Never, | :19:53. | :19:57. | |
never. I think it is wonderful when people remember their heritage and | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
where they come from and I celebrate that. But the council should not be | :20:01. | :20:06. | |
paying for it. Do you think these policies could transfer to other | :20:06. | :20:10. | |
parts of the UK, this tough approach? I don't accept that it is | :20:10. | :20:14. | |
tougher. Most people would say it is a tough time, we have to save | :20:14. | :20:32. | |
money, we are currently experimenting with a range of ways | :20:32. | :20:37. | |
of providing cheaper, free English language. What we do is provide | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
free English language teaching for anybody that wants to work. | :20:41. | :20:46. | |
Within the borough of Newham and right next door to the Olympic Park | :20:46. | :20:50. | |
sits Stratford Market, most of the traders have been here for decades. | :20:50. | :20:54. | |
I ask what they make of the integration agenda? When in Rome do | :20:54. | :21:00. | |
what the Romans do. If you live in England and you have made this your | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
home, then yes, you should learn to speak English. Wherever they live | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
in their part of Newham, wherever it may be, there will be more poles | :21:09. | :21:17. | |
-- Poles or Bangladeshis, and they revert back, whether they have | :21:17. | :21:20. | |
taken the papers or translators away, it isn't going to change | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
nothing. The minute you should the door, it is back to normal for them. | :21:23. | :21:30. | |
Same as it is for us. Before Newham hosts another | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
citizenship ceremony I met this man, who is about to get his British | :21:34. | :21:40. | |
passport. He has been in the UK 18 years already and he says he can't | :21:40. | :21:45. | |
wait. I want citizenship, I have lived a long time in England. Jo it | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
is like a dream, I live in the UK but not citizen or British, my | :21:49. | :21:55. | |
passport is Bangladeshi. To everyone the passport is a British | :21:55. | :21:57. | |
citizen. Do you guys ever have to everyone the passport is a British | :21:57. | :22:02. | |
use translators, have you used translators? Sometimes, some | :22:02. | :22:07. | |
problems with the doctor, I'm not understanding and they are not | :22:07. | :22:12. | |
talking to the doctor. For them it is not as simple as saying of | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
learning the language, he didn't feel his English was good enough to | :22:16. | :22:22. | |
explain why. TRANSLATION: I have tried a lot for 18 years, I have | :22:22. | :22:26. | |
been to college and worked with English people, understanding is | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
not a problem. It doesn't stay in my head, I'm older now, if I was | :22:30. | :22:35. | |
younger it would have stayed. Back at East Ham Town Hall, two weeks | :22:35. | :22:41. | |
after Mini and Shibu became British, it is Amiral's turn, he joins 15 | :22:41. | :22:51. | |
other people. Amiral Islam from Bangladesh please. Wife Jackia | :22:51. | :22:56. | |
can't stop smiling. He proudly stands in front of the Union Jack | :22:56. | :23:03. | |
he tells me is now his flag. Sir Robin's critics say he wants fewer | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
new arrivals and more middle-class white people living in the borough. | :23:07. | :23:11. | |
The question for the other new citizens in the room is whether | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
they can fit into the mayor's vision for Newham. Congratulations | :23:14. | :23:20. | |
you are free to go. You can hear the full documentary, | :23:20. | :23:26. | |
Naturalising Newham by heading to the BBC Asian Network website. We | :23:26. | :23:36. | |
have Sir Robin Wales and Claire Fox. What is wrong with the individual | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
moves? I'm not here to be critical of the individual moves, want to | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
take a step back. I get a bit nervous when we say, I think we | :23:44. | :23:48. | |
probably agree on this, there is a problem with some of the | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
multicultural policies of the past that were very devisive that made | :23:52. | :23:57. | |
people identify with their cultural identity rather than a broader | :23:57. | :24:00. | |
project. For me some of the things that have been put forward seem to | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
be very technical, very narrow and I don't thing you are going to get | :24:04. | :24:09. | |
people buying into a broader sense of western values and entightenedle | :24:09. | :24:15. | |
values when saying you have to speak English. Is this to save | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
money? No, we value the diversity, I have lived in Newham for 35 years, | :24:19. | :24:24. | |
why would I live in a place that is the most diverse place in the world. | :24:24. | :24:27. | |
When we are spending public money our task is to try to bring people | :24:27. | :24:32. | |
together. For that we spend a lot on English language classes, this | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
Government cut 40% of the funding for English language classes, we | :24:36. | :24:40. | |
think that is wrong. We want people to speak English to get jobs and | :24:40. | :24:43. | |
access the whole cultural offer that is here in London, the | :24:43. | :24:46. | |
greatest capital city in the world, you can access some of that. | :24:46. | :24:49. | |
Bringing people together is surely the task of a local Government. Why | :24:49. | :24:54. | |
does that actually bring people together, why does taking away | :24:54. | :24:56. | |
individual funding bring people together? No, there is lots of | :24:56. | :25:00. | |
other things we do. This is a few small things. We don't cut all | :25:00. | :25:03. | |
translation, if translation is needed for statutory services and | :25:03. | :25:07. | |
support we do that, of course we do. Then what we do is have a series of | :25:07. | :25:12. | |
events where people come together, last year and this year too we gave | :25:12. | :25:17. | |
everyone £250 if they want to run something with neighbours, street | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
parties, we had 1,000 last year with 180,000 people taking part. | :25:21. | :25:25. | |
That is getting to meet other people. The problem if you stay in | :25:25. | :25:29. | |
a community is that we know that people who work have broader | :25:29. | :25:33. | |
networks and it gives them better opportunities to access jobs, our | :25:33. | :25:37. | |
job is to support that with public funds. While recognising the value | :25:37. | :25:42. | |
of culture. Let as try to take a step back then, for me one of the | :25:42. | :25:45. | |
problems is there is a danger, certainly the way the media has | :25:45. | :25:50. | |
picked it up more broadly, not necessarily tonight. Is the | :25:50. | :25:54. | |
accusatory finger is pointed at immigrants as though they are the | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
problem, won't they integrate in, that is the way it is pick up. They | :25:58. | :26:03. | |
have to learn English. For me the greater crisis I think you | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
underestimate the crisis, the biggest problem for me is I don't | :26:07. | :26:12. | |
think in Britain we don't know what people should integrate to. We | :26:12. | :26:16. | |
define ourselves about what people aren't doing. We have to be honest | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
about the whole values system of what Britain stands for, of why | :26:19. | :26:27. | |
when you move into this country you buy in to. But there is the flag | :26:27. | :26:33. | |
and all of that? We have a few symbols. In America people would | :26:33. | :26:35. | |
move, they didn't always learn how to speak English, by the way, what | :26:35. | :26:39. | |
they identified with, millions of people of the American dream. Where | :26:39. | :26:43. | |
is the British dream today. There is none, so we point our finger at | :26:43. | :26:47. | |
them. We are not trying to say, that we look for tolerance and | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
respect. I'm a British Scot, we had somebody earlier today saying they | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
are English, of course we have given backgrounds, what -- | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
backgrounds, when you ask communities they want jobs, | :26:58. | :27:01. | |
education for kids, safe streets. Every community wants the same | :27:01. | :27:05. | |
thing. That is what we want to provide while encouraging people to | :27:05. | :27:09. | |
meet other people that live beside them. Why has Newham gone from 33% | :27:09. | :27:17. | |
white British to 16.7%, is this a response to the marginalised white | :27:17. | :27:20. | |
British?. It is London, people moving into London, the East End is | :27:20. | :27:24. | |
always where people come. Interestingly we are seeing changes. | :27:24. | :27:27. | |
The Olympic largely held in our borough, we are beginning to see | :27:27. | :27:30. | |
changes you no one of our problems is we will have people moving in | :27:30. | :27:40. | |
and gentrifying we want to make sure that they can make a life. We | :27:40. | :27:45. | |
have to recognise there has been incredible damage done by | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
multiculturalism as a policy. I'm an open borders policy. You should | :27:49. | :27:54. | |
welcome this? There are parts of it, I'm not here to attack this, we are | :27:54. | :27:58. | |
having a broader discussion in a way. My problem is with | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
multiculturalism is that it has been devisive, it has said to | :28:02. | :28:09. | |
people don't come in here and be a human being but be ethnic. I agree | :28:09. | :28:13. | |
on that level, the danger is we end up blaming immigrants for the | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
problems of what was a British policy. I think that is damaging | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
and you have to be careful of that Robin. Thank you very much. The new | :28:20. | :28:27. | |
Iranian President has said his country is not trying to make a | :28:27. | :28:33. | |
nuclear bomb and never was. Speaking to US television, | :28:33. | :28:36. | |
President Rouhani said he had the full authority, sufficient | :28:36. | :28:39. | |
political latitude to resolve a stand-off with the west. There | :28:39. | :28:43. | |
seems to be this buzz about the interview tonight and the message | :28:43. | :28:46. | |
it conveys? There is a buzz, absolutely, the wider context, | :28:46. | :28:50. | |
political prisoners released yesterday. Some suggestions that | :28:50. | :28:54. | |
Iran might be about to liberalise restrictions on social media. The | :28:54. | :28:57. | |
President going to the UN General Assembly next week in New York. It | :28:57. | :29:00. | |
has been announced that President Holder of France will meet him | :29:00. | :29:06. | |
there. Also -- President Hollande of France will meet him there. And | :29:06. | :29:12. | |
remarks from the Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei suggesting | :29:12. | :29:14. | |
this could be a time for leniency, and renouncing a claim that they | :29:15. | :29:22. | |
want WMDs, this is what he said. TRANSLATION: We do not believe in | :29:22. | :29:25. | |
nuclear weapons because of our beliefs, not for the sake of the US | :29:26. | :29:29. | |
or other countries. When we say that no country should possess | :29:29. | :29:35. | |
nuclear weapons, we ourselves are not definitely trying to possess | :29:35. | :29:41. | |
them. Is there a sense that Rouhani is | :29:41. | :29:45. | |
different? Well the problem is, for those who are sceptical the sense | :29:45. | :29:54. | |
of deja vu. Between 1997 and 2005, that pd was a liberal figure, he | :29:54. | :30:00. | |
was liberal on the nuclear issue and the democratisation issue, it | :30:00. | :30:02. | |
was liberal on the nuclear issue was seen at that time he was | :30:02. | :30:06. | |
gradually underlined by more hardline figures crucially the aia | :30:06. | :30:16. | |
Tola, and the ground was -- Ayatolla Khomenie, and he was | :30:16. | :30:20. | |
replaced by the last President. The new man has the backing of | :30:20. | :30:24. | |
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and he said that last night on NBC news. | :30:24. | :30:31. | |
TRANSLATION: In its nuclear programme this Government enters | :30:31. | :30:35. | |
with full power and has complete authority. I have given the nuclear | :30:35. | :30:39. | |
negotiations portfolio to the Foreign Ministry. The problem won't | :30:39. | :30:42. | |
be from our side. We have sufficient political latitude to | :30:42. | :30:46. | |
solve this problem. This is being seen as a more serious attempt to | :30:46. | :30:50. | |
negotiate. It has been taken seriously? It is being taken | :30:50. | :30:53. | |
seriously. The big question is will President Obama also meet him next | :30:53. | :30:57. | |
week in New York, there is a definite diplomatic opportunity | :30:57. | :31:01. | |
here. A sense that this new apparent willingness to deal should | :31:01. | :31:06. | |
be properly tested and that sanctions, economic sanctions, may | :31:06. | :31:09. | |
have given the Iranians a seriousness about this that was | :31:09. | :31:14. | |
lacking, that was not there under the President years ago, this time | :31:15. | :31:18. | |
they really want to do something to lessen the economic impact of | :31:18. | :31:21. | |
sanctions and they are prepared to deal on the nuclear question. | :31:21. | :31:25. | |
Those of you who stayed up long enough to see a shot of an empty | :31:25. | :31:29. | |
chair last night and went to bed none the wiser, let's just say this | :31:29. | :31:32. | |
one is for you. Imagine a world where the Internet connected not | :31:32. | :31:36. | |
just people but objects, where a tiny computer of found in | :31:36. | :31:40. | |
everything, from cars to fridge, md sins, even cattle. The potential | :31:40. | :31:45. | |
for gleaning information becomes phenomenal. It is call the interin | :31:45. | :31:49. | |
the of things. Who cares what it is called, it will -- internet of | :31:49. | :31:53. | |
things, who cares what it is called it will change lives forever. | :31:53. | :32:02. | |
The Internet has changed our world so profoundly it is hard to argue | :32:02. | :32:05. | |
with the idea that we are now living through an age as | :32:05. | :32:09. | |
transformative as extraordinary as the agricultural or Industrial | :32:09. | :32:14. | |
Revolution. Our revolution, computer revolution | :32:14. | :32:18. | |
has barely got started. Up to now we have had an internet largely | :32:18. | :32:23. | |
made up of people. It is people who post photographs or write e-mails | :32:23. | :32:26. | |
or do any of the other things we all do with our computer, but the | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
number of things on the Internet is going to be vast low bigger than | :32:30. | :32:35. | |
the number of people. When the things take over well our lives | :32:35. | :32:38. | |
will change completely. Today we are somewhere in the region of 10- | :32:38. | :32:43. | |
15 billion things connected to the interin the. They all range from | :32:43. | :32:48. | |
the traditional things such -- the Internet, they all range from | :32:48. | :32:51. | |
traditional things such as smartphones and laptops, they will | :32:51. | :32:56. | |
move to things we aren't familiar with being connected. Cattle for | :32:56. | :32:59. | |
one example, checking the well being of them out in the field, | :32:59. | :33:04. | |
through to trees that monitor the environment around them. Right away | :33:04. | :33:09. | |
through to connected cars. We estimate the number of things | :33:09. | :33:13. | |
connected to the Internet will grow to 50 billion devices by the year | :33:13. | :33:18. | |
2020. What is driving this is a tiny cheap sensor, and computers | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
linked via the Internet to vast cloud servers, the uses are pretty | :33:23. | :33:28. | |
limitless. Imagine your front door is on-line and someone turns up | :33:28. | :33:32. | |
unexpectedly from out of town, no problem, you can let them in. | :33:32. | :33:37. | |
Imagine a pot plant that tweets you to tell you it needs watering. | :33:37. | :33:41. | |
Imagine a coffee maker connect today the Internet that brews up | :33:41. | :33:45. | |
the perfect cup of coffee because it has sensed you walked out. | :33:46. | :33:51. | |
Sensors that know when you go out so turning the heating down and | :33:51. | :33:56. | |
lights out. One thing as simple as the asthma inhaler, very valuable | :33:56. | :34:01. | |
to the person using it, essentially a dumb device. Now the opportunity | :34:01. | :34:06. | |
to connect that to the Internet starts to bring together some | :34:06. | :34:09. | |
really interesting data set, and information about its use. This it | :34:09. | :34:12. | |
is a at the advice that is connected to the Internet, it has | :34:12. | :34:19. | |
GPS -- it is a device that is qebgted to the Internet, it is GPS, | :34:19. | :34:23. | |
and it allows people to understand why where and how they are using it. | :34:23. | :34:27. | |
It produces interesting data and information around how it is being | :34:27. | :34:30. | |
used. Potentially pointing to some environmental conditions in a | :34:30. | :34:34. | |
particular area. So how easy is it to put a thing on | :34:34. | :34:38. | |
the Internet of things. First we are going to need a thing, so how | :34:38. | :34:43. | |
about the Newsnight presenter's chair, I'm going to need to borrow | :34:43. | :34:54. | |
it for a few hours. I found a company near London's | :34:54. | :34:57. | |
silicone round about that says it can put up a chair on the Internet. | :34:58. | :35:08. | |
Hi Chad, how are you doing? How are you. We want our chair on the | :35:08. | :35:12. | |
Internet. OK, I think we can help you out with that. How would we go | :35:12. | :35:16. | |
about it, what do we need to do to our chair, it is a very nice chair, | :35:16. | :35:21. | |
but at the end of the day it is a chair. What do we do? Let's see, | :35:21. | :35:25. | |
the first thing we need is a pressure sensor, I think. So we | :35:25. | :35:30. | |
have got a pressure pad here, basically it allows you to detect | :35:30. | :35:35. | |
are you on it or are you not? A bit like a whoop pee cushion, the | :35:35. | :35:44. | |
presenters are used to that. We are able to take it to this sensor and | :35:44. | :35:50. | |
application board. This sensor says someone is on me or not. We have a | :35:50. | :35:57. | |
USP port to put power in to, we have a spot for the little board. | :35:57. | :36:00. | |
What is on this little thing here is actually the processor, it is a | :36:01. | :36:06. | |
whole Wi-Fi connection defies. So the normal Wi-Fi you connect your | :36:06. | :36:08. | |
whole Wi-Fi connection defies. So phone or computer in to, this will | :36:08. | :36:12. | |
allow you to connect into it as well. That, the size of a postage | :36:12. | :36:16. | |
stamp is a computer? Exactly. A computer capable of connecting to | :36:16. | :36:21. | |
the Internet? Absolutely. That just slots in there. So we tie this in, | :36:21. | :36:28. | |
boom, it is connected in, as soon as it is done it is connected to | :36:28. | :36:33. | |
Wi-Fi and the interin the. Chad Jones is CEO of a company that | :36:33. | :36:38. | |
helps product designers get stuff on-line. When it is finished our | :36:38. | :36:43. | |
presenters chair will be able to tell when somebody stand up or sit | :36:43. | :36:49. | |
down and tell the world via Twitter. By the Internet connecting the | :36:49. | :36:53. | |
chair it seems mundane, sit down, stand up, it tells you sat down and | :36:53. | :36:58. | |
stood up for how long. If you start thinking about that from a | :36:58. | :37:01. | |
healthcare perspective, what if we put that inside a granny's bed, | :37:01. | :37:05. | |
inside her home. Imagine if we can look into that home and see is she | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
in bed, when is she in bed, how long is she in bed for, if she's | :37:09. | :37:13. | |
not in bed where is she and what's she doing. If she's 2.00 and out of | :37:13. | :37:18. | |
bed for an hour-and-a-half there might be a problem. You need to | :37:18. | :37:21. | |
understand that. One of the constraints to the spread of the | :37:21. | :37:25. | |
internet of things is power. Batteries need either charging or | :37:25. | :37:30. | |
changing. But, research from the University of washing has proved | :37:30. | :37:34. | |
the feasiblilty of a technology called ambient back scater. That is | :37:34. | :37:39. | |
drawing the tiny amounts of power needed to run devices from | :37:39. | :37:42. | |
surrounding radio, TV or Wi-Fi significantle thats. It means that | :37:42. | :37:46. | |
you could bury these sensor into wall, into into clothe, in short, | :37:47. | :37:54. | |
into anything. It seems there is no way of avoiding this technology, | :37:54. | :37:59. | |
our homes will be joining the Internet of things whether we like | :37:59. | :38:04. | |
it or not. Smart energy metres are rolled out from 2015, these have | :38:04. | :38:08. | |
the ability to provide the most extraordinary data of our energy | :38:08. | :38:13. | |
use, right down toe theed models of devices we are using. -- right down | :38:13. | :38:18. | |
to the model of devices we are using? Privacy is a big issue, do | :38:18. | :38:22. | |
you know what your telephone or smart metre is transmitting back. A | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
great point of realised in Germany, where the company behind the smart | :38:26. | :38:29. | |
metre were able to determine, not only what devices were being run in | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
the consumers home, but also what films they were watching. What | :38:33. | :38:39. | |
films they were watching on their television? Absolutely. In man | :38:39. | :38:44. | |
cases consumers are blind to it, they look at the -- in many cases | :38:44. | :38:48. | |
consumers are blind to it, they don't look at the features of being | :38:48. | :38:51. | |
connected to the Internet. The Government says they would have to | :38:51. | :38:55. | |
consent to giving up smart metre data, but they wouldn't be | :38:55. | :38:57. | |
consulted before the police or Intelligence Services got their | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
hands on it. Indeed the former director of the CIA says this kind | :39:01. | :39:05. | |
of data will revolutionise the trade craft of spying. In the | :39:05. | :39:09. | |
future, it seems, your dishwasher will be working for the CIA. The | :39:09. | :39:17. | |
opportunities for terrorists and criminals will clearly expand. In | :39:17. | :39:25. | |
the 2009 American drama, Homeland, the US Vice President is | :39:25. | :39:31. | |
assassinated when his internet connected pacemaker is hacked. It | :39:31. | :39:33. | |
assassinated when his internet seems fiction is becoming reality. | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
In 2011 the New Zealand security expert and hacker, Barnaby Jack | :39:37. | :39:44. | |
showed how an insulin pump could be hacked and deliver a fatal dose. He | :39:44. | :39:52. | |
was due to appear at a Conference Talking about how a pacemaker could | :39:52. | :39:57. | |
be hacked when he mysteriously dyed. Medical manufacturers have been | :39:57. | :40:00. | |
told to beef up their security. Other areas are vulnerable too. The | :40:00. | :40:04. | |
suspicion is that internet- connected prison doors in Florida | :40:04. | :40:08. | |
were opened by an outside hacker. And on a more mundane level, we | :40:08. | :40:12. | |
have seen an internet connected baby monitor hacked as well. We | :40:12. | :40:16. | |
have this consuspect called the attack sur as if, in terms of what | :40:16. | :40:22. | |
are the number of system -- attack surface, in terms of what are the | :40:22. | :40:26. | |
number of systems you can attack. With more data the attack surface | :40:27. | :40:31. | |
is getting bigger and wider. For the cybercriminal out there, it | :40:31. | :40:35. | |
really does potentially become a field day. The Internet of things | :40:35. | :40:39. | |
is already here and will evently dwarf the Internet of people. We | :40:39. | :40:43. | |
will all need to think about security and privacy, but one | :40:43. | :40:46. | |
option we don't have is stopping all of this. Some believe we are | :40:46. | :40:50. | |
option we don't have is stopping now entering a new phase in the | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
evolution of our planet, when the Internet take its place as another | :40:54. | :40:59. | |
life form. Sleep well. Thanks for that. Here is the chair. | :40:59. | :41:04. | |
The Internet-connected chair, question. We have it patched into a | :41:04. | :41:10. | |
Twitter feed, Newsnight chair, if you want to have a seat we will see | :41:10. | :41:13. | |
if this thing work, we have the Twitter feed on the tablet and if I | :41:14. | :41:19. | |
refresh is it. Yes it says the Newsnight presenter has sat down at | :41:19. | :41:27. | |
23:14:05 in the Internet chair. If you stand up we will refresh it | :41:27. | :41:31. | |
again. There it is. The Newsnight presenter has stood up after | :41:31. | :41:37. | |
sitting for ten seconds in the Internet-connected chair. It | :41:37. | :41:40. | |
doesn't direct message does it? Not that I'm aware. Fascinating it is, | :41:40. | :41:44. | |
more widely? This in itself doesn't have that many uses, you could | :41:45. | :41:50. | |
perhaps have a game of musical chairs with hundreds of | :41:50. | :41:52. | |
participants in lots of different countries, asupering you don't want | :41:53. | :41:57. | |
to do that. We are talk -- assuming you don't want to do that. We are | :41:57. | :42:03. | |
talking about connecting with our environment, tiny little sensors | :42:03. | :42:07. | |
you could put them on pets and cow, it could revolutionise elderly care, | :42:07. | :42:11. | |
as explained in the film. It could allow people to stay in homes for a | :42:11. | :42:15. | |
lot longer. It will put far more data out there. One of the excite | :42:15. | :42:19. | |
things is being able to cross reference lots of different data | :42:19. | :42:26. | |
set and draw non-intuitive comparisons between those. Pretty | :42:26. | :42:31. | |
invasive? That kind of data will be common place about lots of | :42:31. | :42:36. | |
different aspect of our lives. What temperature our therplgs statistic | :42:36. | :42:41. | |
is, whether we have -- thermostat is, whether we have left the house. | :42:41. | :42:45. | |
If we want to take our privacy seriously we have to guard all that. | :42:45. | :42:49. | |
Away from sedentary matters, the fastest man in the world took an | :42:49. | :42:53. | |
awfully long time to arrive. He says he doesn't do anything quickly, | :42:53. | :42:57. | |
except run. I was given four-and-a- half minutes to talk to him, long | :42:57. | :43:04. | |
enough for the sprinter to have run the 100ms 28 times. We packed a lot | :43:04. | :43:07. | |
in, including flash photography. You are a man of God, what do you | :43:07. | :43:12. | |
think in the ten seconds before the race starts? For me it is focusing, | :43:12. | :43:16. | |
ten seconds my start is all about taking deep breath, relaxing and | :43:16. | :43:20. | |
trying to clear my mind as much as possible. You have to listen to | :43:20. | :43:23. | |
that gun. If you don't you will be left in the blocks like I am a lot | :43:23. | :43:28. | |
of times. Sow the start is the worst bit? It is the worst bit of | :43:28. | :43:31. | |
my race. I work on it every day, sometimes you hit it, sometimes you | :43:31. | :43:37. | |
don't. A number of athletes from the Jamaican team have tested | :43:37. | :43:40. | |
positive for banned substance, is that a particular problem there, or | :43:40. | :43:45. | |
is the list too long? For me I'm an individual, I have to be vigilent | :43:45. | :43:49. | |
and be very careful in what put in my body, and focus on what I can do. | :43:49. | :43:54. | |
I can't talk about other athletes, they are also individuals, I have | :43:54. | :43:59. | |
to do what I have to do. Would it help Jamaica and the team if there | :43:59. | :44:04. | |
was more regular testing from the authorities there? I always work on | :44:04. | :44:09. | |
testing, and say if they want to test me every day come and do it. | :44:09. | :44:14. | |
Every athlete will be OK if they test for regularly. Do you think | :44:14. | :44:21. | |
test testing positive is a life- time ban? That is not my area. Your | :44:21. | :44:25. | |
gut feeling? As an athlete there are rules in everything you do, in | :44:25. | :44:29. | |
life, in every different sport, for me that is the whole point, if you | :44:29. | :44:33. | |
have rules, I don't make them I abide by them. He He takes the gold | :44:33. | :44:44. | |
medal again. When you finally start to consider retirement, and it is a | :44:44. | :44:48. | |
long way off. Would it be football? Yeah, something I want to try, when | :44:48. | :44:53. | |
I sit and watch football I always say I can do this, you never know, | :44:53. | :44:59. | |
I want it try when I retire to see if it would be possible. We will | :44:59. | :45:04. | |
see what happens, I'm a big Manchester United fan and hopefully | :45:04. | :45:10. | |
I can get a spot on. Have they approached you? When Alex Ferguson | :45:10. | :45:14. | |
was in charge he said I could come and train whenever I want. I never | :45:14. | :45:18. | |
got the opportunity. When I meet David Moyes hopefully I will get | :45:18. | :45:22. | |
opportunity to train with them. You could imagine yourself playing for | :45:22. | :45:25. | |
Manchester United? Definite low. You skroib yourself as a Definitely. | :45:25. | :45:29. | |
You describe yourself as a at the You skroib yourself as a Definitely. | :45:29. | :45:33. | |
no mam number and a legend. I look at your confidence and I think and | :45:33. | :45:44. | |
there must be some area of your life where the confidence is not | :45:44. | :45:48. | |
there. What puts you in a cold sweat? Nobody, I'm so laid back | :45:48. | :45:51. | |
about everything really. I'm very sweat? Nobody, I'm so laid back | :45:51. | :45:55. | |
competitive, I'm always confident in whatever I do, one thing you | :45:55. | :45:59. | |
learn, if you go into anything doubting yourself it doesn't make | :45:59. | :46:02. | |
sense, you do it. There is nothing you do slowly or without | :46:02. | :46:06. | |
competitiveness? I do everything slow, except running. | :46:06. | :46:23. | |
The Newsnight chair has now almost 500 follower, before we go, we hail | :46:23. | :46:30. | |
the visionary Hiroshima Yamochi who died today. You have not heard of | :46:30. | :46:34. | |
him but you have probably played him and your children still do. We | :46:34. | :46:39. | |
leave but the seven ages of Mario. | :46:39. | :46:40. |