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07/11/2013

Can we trust the spy agencies? Testimony from Tamil rape victims in Sri Lanka. Is Twitter a business or a bubble? And is Kensington and Chelsea the new Monaco?


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Trust me I'm a spy. Put as baldly as that it may not carry the ring of

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complete confidence, but that was in essence The pitch of the three most

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senior officials today as they appeared before a group of

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politicians. They say this man's revelations about

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politicians. They say this man's a profit. Is it a business or a

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bubble? As the Commonwealth RDZ itself to

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meet in Sri Lanka, we hear from Tamil who is say they have been

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raped and tortured by Sri Lankan authorities as recently as this

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Kensington and Chelsea, welcome to some of the most real estate in

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Britain. Are parts of this country like nothing so much now as another

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country. Desbanker, banker, banker, and I can't tell them apart, they

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have the wives that go like this and a motorcycle that they put their

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children in. The skinny women! MI five and GCHQ testified thus

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before a Parliamentary Committee today. We have to take their word

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for what they say has occurred, which itself rather points up the

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problem of trying to maintain political surveillance on

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intelligence surveillance. We eavesdropped on it all. It has

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taken a long journey out of the shadows to something like shadows.

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Successive chiefs and DGs of MI6 and MI5, fought a rear guard action

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against coming into the light. Clearly openness is something that

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we're moving down the road on. It is now over 20 years that we have

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we're moving down the road on. It is demonstration, I believe, of the

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Government's commitment both to the need for the sort of intelligence

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that we can provide and their confidence in the service as it now

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is. The MI6 boss spoke on the record,

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but off camera. I was at that press conference 20 years ago and

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incidentally we journalists haven't had another chance to cross-examine

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heads of MI6 and GCHQ on the record since then. But the thing that

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really sticks in my mind about that meeting was the degree to which the

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heads of those agencies thought they could limit their public exposure,

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they didn't want to be photographed, and they thought that the new

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commitmenty being established at that time, and which -- committee

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being established at that time and that met again today could be kept

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out of any scrutiny of their operations. Today

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out of any scrutiny of their hindsight we were not configured in

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2001 for the scale of the terrorist threat that this country faced after

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9/11. Our people weren't trained for it, we didn't have the experience

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for it or the resources for it. It took us some time to adapt to the

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scale of the threat we faced. This committee was set up 20 years ago,

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but its powers have expanded considerably. Even so there were

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signs today that the recent disclosures about the extent of

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electronic surveillance came as news to some members.

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We weren't ware of the intricacies, whilst we appreciate a lot of this

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is a very confidential nature and the co-operation that you have with

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other -- aware with the intricacies, we appreciate a lot of this is very

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confidential the co-operation you have with others. Can we have a

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commitment that you will give us the e-mails of the vast majority,

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that would not be proportional or legal we do not do it. It would be

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nice if terrorists or criminals used a particular method of communication

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and everybody else used something else. That is not the case. It would

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be very nice if we knew who all the terrorists and serious criminals

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were, but the Internet is a great way of making those anonymous. The

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moves towards making MI5 more open, and were prepared to make occasional

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speeches but not cross-examined. Secret organisations need to say

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secret, even if we present an occasion public face as I am doing

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today. Today they showed they also learned the value of a public

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platform, launching attacks on those who had published Edward Snowden's

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revelation, alleging grave damage to national security. The

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lapping it up. We have seen terrorist groups in south Asia and

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other places discussing the revelations in terms of the

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communication packages they use and they wish to move to. There are

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budgets to justify too, MI5 has twice the people it had at the end

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of the Cold War, and justifies why it thinks that is right. Since 7/7

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there have been 34 plots against this country at all sizes and

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stages. I have referred publicly and my predecessors have that one or two

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of those are major plots aimed at mass casualty that have been

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attempted each year. The hearing ended with many feeling they heard

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the start of a conversation that will now go on in closed session.

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The accountability question likewise has

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The accountability question likewise the word of the Intelligence

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Services on trust? Well it is part of a democracy, and it is why it is

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so important as I was saying in the Guardian earlier this week. That we

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built trust in the system. Because once people lose that trust then

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they are not just sceptical, which is healthy, but they become cynical,

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which isn't, because then they would preclude the Security Services from

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being able to develop the measures in taking on new technology and

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rapid change in the use of new technology which will save us from

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all sorts of threats including cyber.

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But you also suggested in that article that we needed a breath of

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scepticism. What did you mean? I believe that we need to challenge as

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ministers and in believe that we need to challenge as

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you ever feel you were misled during your time at the Home Office? I felt

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that there were times, I have to be very careful here there were times

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when the enthusiasm for doing the job, the commitment, sometimes

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overrode judgment which is why, although politicians are rarely

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trusted, it is important to have politicians asking the kind of

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questions that you would expect to ask yourself, Jeremy, and the public

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would ask of themselves. And on many occasions we had robust discussions

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and sometimes I was persuaded and on occasions I wasn't Do you think on

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some occasions you might have been persuaded too easily? I think there

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is danger when you come into a serious job like home or Foreign

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Secretary, that you come in, serious job like home or Foreign

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have had the case overstated to you or you have been misled. I think

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there is always a danger in public life that case is overstated to make

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a point. A case is overstated because people are so committed,

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they are so carried away with what they know that they want you to

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believe. We're all occasionally guilty of doing this. In something

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as important as the security of our country you have to believe that

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these people know what they are doing but something as important as

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civil liberties and our rights, you have to be prepared to ask the

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awkward question when it would be easier simply to go along with it.

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Do you aDWREE with the head of MI six I6 that what -- MI6 that what

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Edward Snowden disclosed will six I6 that what -- MI6 that what

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example who it should be that makes the final judgment on such sensitive

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material. Should it be even the most well informed and sensitive editor

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of a newspaper or should we have a better system within the democratic

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political agreen Take That allows -- arena that aLOETS that -- allows

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that to take place. With people like you and the intelligence agencies,

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the cards haven't been dealt evenly, there will be a point in the

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conversation where they could say to you "you will just have to trust

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us"? I think there will be occasions and when you err on the side of

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caution and caution would be back to that preset that the first and most

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fundamental that preset that the first and most

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disposal. These are such difficult delicate issues that I think the

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debate is a good one. But the solution has to be something better

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than people stealing material and then presuming that they know best

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in terms of what should be put in the public arena. David Blunkett,

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thank you. With us now is Sir Francis Richard,

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former director of GCHQ, the Guardian columnist, Simon Jenkins

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and Hazel Blears, former counter terrorism minister. Francis

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Richards, were you one of those whose enthusiasm and commitment

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overrode your judgment? I didn't think so. There is no purpose to

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having secret intelligence agencies if they don't tell the truth to

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power. That is what they are there for. Ever come a point in a

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conversation then certainly, I confessed. But you

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were happy in principle to tell them virtually everything you knew about

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your suspicions on the basis of your evidence? Yes, that is what we are

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there for. Hazel Blears did you know, as a member of the

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intelligence oversight committee did you know the extent of GCHQ

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surveillance in Britain? Yes, I would say that the committee did

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have a broad understanding of what the capabilities of GCHQ were. And

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do you judge that was all right? We have been looking at them for threy,

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we have been on several visits. We have had very confidential briefings

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about what the capabilities were and obviously we were satisfied that

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they were operating within our legal framework. The question I put to

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Iain Lobban today was quite a tough question, I asked him to guarantee

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that he wasn't conducting any operations that weren't covered by

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the British legal framework and he gave

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the British legal framework and he what they can do and what they were

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doing, in terms of being able to select information. The point that

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was made sod is they could collect that information but in order to go

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further and look at content or data they have to have a target set of

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people of interest. So the rest of the population are not people of

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interest. You knew about Tempora then? We didn't know the names of

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these projects and I'm sure the exact same situation applies in

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America. In terms of broad capabilities we did. We also heard

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that Iain Lobban confirm that when we are in private session and we

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meet every single week in private session he certainly will go into

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more detail both about the damage that has been done and also about

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the broad capabilities as well. In that case you knew precisely how big

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a sham the communications data bill was, didn't you? No, the

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Communications Data Bill was about trying to put on a

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keep the data you can't interrogate it. Do you think if the committee

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knew what was going on why didn't they tell you? More to the point,

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this is the biggest lapse in intelligence security of our

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generation, since the war, it is a colossal lapse. That is not the

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point, I'm asking about oversight? The claps was oversight, you would

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assume someone would have said you distribute

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assume someone would have said you Francis you at least accept had it

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not been for Edward Snowden and those disclosures we wouldn't see

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those three people before a Parliamentary Committee? I don't

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think that is necessarily right, I don't think it would have happened

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today but that is the direction which things are moving. The

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position of the agencies has changed enormously in the last ten years, as

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the chief security threats to this country have become covert. That

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means that they have moved from the rear of the country's defences into

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the front line. They cannot operate without trust and that trust is

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going to demand a much closer relationship both for them and the

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oversight with the public. The reason why I stayed and did this,

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Edward Snowden was not a disloyal enemy of security, the reason he did

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it is he simply saw his bosses lying to Congress over and over again. The

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monitoring system to Congress over and over again. The

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unbelievably lucky that he didn't put it all on the Internet or give

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it to an enemy. He gave it to a newspaper and they have published

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less than 1% of the material. You are perfectly happy that a newspaper

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editor is competent to judge what may or may not be safely made

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public? In this case, every story is matter of trust on the part of the

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editor. In this case a tiny percentage of it was considered in

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the public interest, it was all shown to security officials before

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it was published, a lot was deDAKTed as a result of that. It was as

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precise an exercise as you could have performed. What is your

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analysis? I think Edward Snowden has placed the information in places

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where it was inevitable. It has been given wider circulation by those

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capable of accessing it. Do you think the newspapers acted

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responsibly in this case? Can I think the newspapers acted

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the act. For the first time we have powers to go into the agencies and

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look at their documents and see primary intelligence materials.

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Oversight is never going to be perfect, but actually it is an awful

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lot more stringent than it used to be.

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GCHQ were boasting in their own documents that they had an easier

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life as they were concerned than the Americans were having. That is what

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they call the unique selling proposition of GCHQ service, they

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were selling to NSA, they were utterly insecure. It is insecure.

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Francis Richards how worried were you by Edward Snowden's disclosures?

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Very worried. Intelligence only works if you can do things that your

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targets, those who threaten national security don't know you can do. If

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you put out a huge quantity of what you have

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you put out a huge quantity of what never going to leak? I'm not

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responsible for American oversight and nor is the Intelligence and

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Security Committee. I don't think we are talking about that. All of your

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material was accessible to NSA, they had access to the material and were

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clearly unable to keep it safe. That in my mind is the security threat?

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We are talking about British oversight here, not about American.

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How secure is this information that you have not in the Guardian

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disclosed? It is locked in a room. It is locked in a room is it? It is

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not in the keeping of Glenn Greenwald. No, it is locked in a

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room. Where? In America. Are you certain? Yeah. Why is Mr Greenwald's

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partner flying around the world with a computer

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partner flying around the world with catastrophe, not the Guardian's

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fault. Given a good story I think we did the most responsible thing we

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did given a good story is to work out which was in the public

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interest. Which is what we did do. You have this information, it is

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your problem? To that extent you are right. And you are asking us to

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trust you that you will make a sensible judgment in the best

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interests of people w are the sworn enemies of others to whom this will

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be used? We are safer custodians of it than GCHQ and NSA were. Almost a

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million people had access to this material, the wicky leaks has access

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for -- Wikileaks has access to it. A man flying around the world with a

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computer full of the most secret information that there is to have,

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with password on a piece information that there is to have,

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effect en Clair. What do you make of the judgment, many would say the

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Guardian did act responsibly in deciding not to release everything?

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You heard from Iain Lobban today that he has evidence, direct

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evidence of groups of terrorists who would seek to harm our country, now

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discussing the specific revelations and how they might change their

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operating techniques to evade scrutiny in the future. He has

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promised in a private session he will give us more information about,

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that the actual evidence we can see, and I very much look forward to

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being able to drill down into that. I think this is matter of major

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concern for the country, if groups are seeking to evade our scrutiny

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then that could result in harm. This is a cat and mouse game all the time

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with the technology, the terrorists with the technology, the terrorists

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changing the way they behave. I wasn't very surprised, it shows GCHQ

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is doing its job. Were you worried, distressed? It seemed to confirm

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what the most alarmist reports indicated? It confirmed what one

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already knew to be the case. It would be very surprising if, given

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the scale of the revelations that have been made, our enemies were not

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making arrangements to use more secure methods of communication that

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they don't think we can access. Do you think, Simon, we are ever going

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to get to a point where you can have and we can get beyond saying you are

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just going to have to trust me on this? It is like a haystack, we

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just going to have to trust me on want your society to surrender all

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its PRIFies and freedoms in the interests -- PRIF sees, and in the

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interests of stopping not that many terrorists. How many lives do you

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think it is worth? It is not world war that could break out? It could

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be a very serious terrorist incident? It is not a world war that

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will break out a very serious terrorist incident? It is not a

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world war that will break out. Ruby Wax rubbishes the neighbours. It is

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a cat and mouse game, how rich are you? Represents of the Governments

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of the Commonwealth meet next week in Sri Lanka to discuss good

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governance, democracy and mutual aid. Those worthy values seem to

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many of those aid. Those worthy values seem to

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distressing images and some of the interviewees names have been changed

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NIER protection. This is what the Sri Lankan Government wants you to

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see, an Indian Ocean paradise recovering from decades of war.

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But there is also dark side to this beautiful island. Four years after

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the conflict ended terrible things are still going on. I have now

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collected compelling evidence from 12 people, both men and women who

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say they have been raped in decontinuation by members of the Sri

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Lankan security forces this year. It is impossible toor rob rate every

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detail of each person's story, but I have spoken to doctor, seen medical

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reports and in some cases people have been granted asylum in Europe

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on the In 2009 the Sri Lankan army slushed

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-- army crushed the Tamil Tigers. They used child soldiers and

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assassinated prime ministers and Presidents. The United Nations

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accused the Government and tigers of committing war crimes and crimes

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against humanity in the final months of the war. Acoring to the UN, up to

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70 thou civilians were killed, the majority

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70 thou civilians were killed, the photographs, believed to have been

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taken by Government soldiers at the end of the war appear to show dead

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Tamil women. The UN said these images demonstrated a strong

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inference that rape or sexual violence may have occurred either

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prior to or after execution. It is rare for Tamil women to talk about

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sexual abuse. But with no hope of justice, some women are now starting

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to speak out in the hope of stopping this happening to others. To our

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knowledge this is the first Tamil rape survivor to recount her ordeal

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in public. Nandini says she was abducted and raped this year. But it

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is not just women who talk of sexual abuse. Ravi says he was forced to

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join the Tamil Tiger rebels for the last six months of the war. Before

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being detained for nearly four years last six months of the war. Before

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ex-rebels. Stories like these are only emerging now, because it has

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taken years for former Tamil Tigers, like Ravi to escape abroad and be

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able to speak out. We found six Tamils in the UK who also alleged

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torture in the rehabilitation programme. Four of them have

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Government documentation to prove they were in the camps and

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independent medical reports establishing torture. This British

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doctor has seen many Sri Lankans branded

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doctor has seen many Sri Lankans former rebel was detained and badly

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tortured, right in the heart of the capital. He has official documents

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to prove where and when he was held. His doctor says he will never fully

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recover. Seva himself despairs of ever getting justice. We shared the

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evidence in this film of on going rape and torture with a leading

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British lawyer. The cases you have gathered are striking in that they

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have common features in relation to how the victims are picked up, what

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happens to them, particularly there is evidence of cigarettes being used

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to burn the victims in order to get compliance. And basically to carry

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out torture. The use of cigarettes has long been held to be within the

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definition of torture. So there is absolutely no dispute upon that.

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definition of torture. So there is looking at them being referred to

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the International Criminal Court for further investigation. We asked the

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Sri Lankan Government for a response. The High Commision in

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London said it was not fair to expect them to respond fully to

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allegations contained in anonymous testimony. Their written statements

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suggested our interviewees could have been paid to discredit Sri

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Lanka or even tortured in the past by the Tamil Tigers

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Next week Prince Charles, the Prime Minister and the Foreign Secretary

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will be in Sri Lanka for the Commonwealth meeting. Canada is the

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lone voice of dissent, its leaders boycotting because they say they are

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not in the business of accommodating evil.

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In a statement to the BBC evil.

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on the BBC News channel this weekend on Saturday and Sunday evening at

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9.30pm. Twitter shares put on sale, market goes nuts, there in 140

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characters is the story of what happened on the New York Stock

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Exchange today. It often seems everybody is on it, Twitter has yet

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to make a profit. That didn't put off buyers, and soon the cost of a

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single share had getting on for doubled its price. Don't anyone

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mention the dotcom bubble or the Dutch TU little mania of 1637.

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Gillian Tett won't or she might. Can you understand it? I think many

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people would think what happened today is completely bonkers.

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Basically Twitters' shares have doubled. The market cap is bigger

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than Yahoo, Time doubled. The market cap is bigger

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global equity markets awash with cash from central banks and you

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don't actually have that many companies who have a good growth

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story to tell. The story of Twitter is incredible. Not only do so many

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people use it, it is a story of a bunch of scrappy entrepeneur, who

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used innovation and came back from failure to build a great story, it

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is a kind of story that American investors love to look at. That is a

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fable, it is not a profit base? It is a future Hollywood film I'm sure.

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Can these returns ever be justified? Well the Twitter team, the current

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CEO said he's looking at acquisitions and getting very savvy.

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Using advertising to try to build a revenue stream. One of the big

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questions is are people who use Twitter going to accept having

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advertising coming into their messages or not?

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bubble? I think the more important parallel is actually with the IT

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bubble. The DT combubble? -- the dotcom bubble? You had a lot of

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shares growing rapidly and there was hype and excitement, many companies

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later suffered badly. More recently though you can look to companies

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like Linkedin and they have had a good run and cop TRAS with Groupon

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and Zing who had excitement at the start and didn't deliver. It is

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whether people will be willing to let advertisers use their data for

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those on Twitter. Would you? Only time will tell. I won't answer that

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question! Thank you very much. Now a story from one of this country's

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ghettos, it has been revealed that the poor, and that is undoubtedly

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the wrong world, the poor people of the borrowing of Kensington and

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Chelsea are -- the borrowing of Kensington and

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tax may not bother the natives and Russian royal barons of the borough.

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But as we discovered the property market in London has created an

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extraordinary neighbourhood. Hings like tax may not bother the natives

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and Russian royal barons of the borough. But as we discovered the

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property market in London has created an extraordinary

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neighbourhood. Welcome to Britain's very own Monoco. This is the London

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Borough of Kensington and Chelsea, home to some of the richest people

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in the world. More likely second, third or fourth home. Many of them,

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like in Monaco, pay very little tax. They mix with each other but they

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don't engage much with the wider society around them. And here in

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Knightsbridge property prices at ?2400 per square foot have caught up

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with Monaco. The average price of ?2400 per square foot have caught up

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take was bigger than Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, the

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north-east, the North West, Yorkshire and the Humber put

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together. There has been a massive influx of intnational buyers, they

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are coming from all over the place, the breath of the range of different

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-- breadth and range of nationalities is greater than it has

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ever been. Property prices are so high in this part of London it has

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become become hollowed out, only the very rich or council houses are

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moving in. The ones who aren't super-rich are those who have lived

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there a long time. This is the new Beverly Hills, who would have thunk.

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It started off as coach house, there is no eccentrics now, they got rid

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of those, it is banker, banker, banker, I can't tell them apart.

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They have the wives with the hair that goes like this

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They have the wives with the hair annual income in the borough ?128

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,000 is the highest in the country. Here in Notting Hill in the north of

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the borough, it used to be full of bohemium and artistic types, now it

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is choc full of bankers and the shops that service them. You can

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spend ?3 on a loaf of bred here. You can buy it cheaper round the corner

:41:44.:41:47.

in Portabello Market and the stall holders there remember the area the

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way it used to be. This was a real poor area, real poor. People were

:41:52.:41:58.

fighting in them days to get out of this I can't remember. Now they are

:41:59.:42:03.

fighting to get into this I can't remember. I was born 100 yard up the

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road from here in the little mews. And mum and dad and my sister we

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used to live in a little mews flat there. Dad used to pay

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their fruit on-line and they are in a fruit market. There is no

:42:32.:42:37.

community now. Where there is a shortage of space and lots of demand

:42:38.:42:43.

people have to build. In Monaco they are building up in ever-higher

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skyscrapers to the fury of many locals.

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# Down Down # Deeper and down Here in Kensington

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and Chelsea they are digging down, creating huge basement, sometimes on

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many levels. I have been given a sneak preview of this house in one

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of the swankyist squares in Knightsbridge, on the market for ?11

:43:10.:43:15.

million. The owner has dug a sub-basement below the existing one

:43:16.:43:19.

to house another sitting room and what estate agents now like to call

:43:20.:43:21.

"a media room". But some people what estate agents now like to call

:43:22.:43:43.

should contain into a small, narrow London terraced home. Some of these

:43:44.:43:48.

are called "icebergs" because they have more below ground than above.

:43:49.:43:52.

Under another house in the same square they are digging a huge

:43:53.:43:58.

sub-basement. The hole is so big you can see it on Google Earth. As in

:43:59.:44:03.

Monaco the neighbours of the basement diggers are incanned

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desSANT, the endless drilling, the dust the lorries are driving them

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mad. I only know drill, I have had silicone implants not to hear the

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drilling. It is a competition who can build low Er. It is about --

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lower. It is how rich are you, some are hitting the crust of the earth.

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More than half of residents were born

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More than half of residents were -- to London, the capital has low

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taxes on expensive house, less than half of New York's and a third of

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Hong Kong's. And some of these houses are barely lived in, their

:45:00.:45:03.

owners see them as investments. Even if they do live here full-time, a

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lot of them don't have much stake in society. They tend to avoid state

:45:08.:45:11.

schools and the NHS and public transport. Some of them even club

:45:12.:45:15.

together and hire private security guards to patrol their streets. It

:45:16.:45:19.

is as if they are living in a bubble separate from the rest of us and

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only mixing with other extremely rich people. So what affect does

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this have on the the area they live in. Dorling is a doing fee -- Danny

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Dorling is a goingy prove yes, sir SOR and has been studying that. The

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rich don't see much back for their taxes so don't like to pay them. The

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rich don't see much back for their just social, the area has been

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hollowed out physically too, with all the giant sub-basements being

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dug, there is a honeycomb of holes under the clay under Kensington and

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Chelsea's seats. You can almost imagine the disaster movie ending as

:46:15.:46:18.

the borough collapses into a sink hole of its own making.

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That's it for tonight, the short list for the least wanted writing

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award, the Literary Review's Bad Sex Award was announced today. Unlike

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last year when our late Economics Editor was gutted not to win for his

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depiction of bonking on horse back. Not even Mark Urban have been

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nominated. We are tipping this book. Not even Mark Urban have been

:46:51.:47:13.

with mine remains. We streak like superheroes past suns and Solar

:47:14.:47:23.

System, we dive through shoals of atomic nuclei, in our breakthrough

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to the fourth star statisticians across the universe rejoice.

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