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13/12/2013

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Remember this? It is the right thing to do, not to go ahead with the

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third runway at Heathrow. Except now Heathrow expansion is firmly back on

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the cards. Well a report out next week give thepm cover for a U-turn?

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When it comes to airport expansion it looks like the Government is

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heading for a bit of political turbulence. Goldsmith is here.

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Removed from office on Sunday, executed on Thursday, what is North

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Korea telling us about the way it deals with dissent. We talk to

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someone who spent years in the hermit kingdom. I expect to make

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anywhere from ten to 100 times my money back on those if I'm

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successful. So marijuana has been very good to me so far. If you're

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over 21 marijuana is now legal in Colorado and Washington state, is it

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also becoming a normal way to earn a living? So it is agreed we should

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return? I don't know anything about the gold standard I'm afraid, but I

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do love little kitten, they are so soft and furry. Is this the template

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for a successful marriage afterall, we have someone willing to argue

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that it could be. Hello and good evening, our goal is

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to make Heathrow better not bigger, we will stop the third runway,

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proclaimed the Conservative election manifesto of 2010, three years on

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there is a strong chance that vote-winner of a pledge may be

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quietly forgotten, this programme understands that expansion at

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Heathrow Airport is looking increasingly likely, with a

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publication of a report early next week. Three of the favoured option,

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including construction, have a new runway in there. If true it will

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prompt a fight between David Cameron and some of his MPs. We will talk to

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one of them in a moment. First we have this. The captain has very

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definitely put the seatbelt sign on, politically this could all get very

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bumpy. Since the last election the Government's aviation policy has

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been in something of a holding pattern, doing lazy figures of eight

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across the skies of the south of England. Now, well it's about, if

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not to come into land, at least give us an indication of where we might

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be heading. With an eye perhaps on the precious marginal seats in west

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London and beyond, in opposition the Conservatives campaigned hard

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against expanding Heathrow. High-speed rail, said Mr Cameron

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made it unnecessary. So when our economy is overheating in the

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south-east, but investment is still required in the north, it is the

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right thing to do not to go ahead with the third runway at Heathrow,

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but instead to build a high-speed rail network. David Cameron has

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little room to manoeuvre on this, not east because of pressure from

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the London mayor, Boris Johnson. I think you have heard him today, hold

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on, we will do this. I want to make one final point that is relevant to

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this area. And there it is, you can hear it, I will not support, in fact

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I will oppose a third runway... After the election, the coalition

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agreement ruled out a third Heathrow runway. But there were still urgent

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questions to answer on airport provision. To answer these the

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Government appointed an expert commission under Sir Howard Davies.

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Well there has been so much politics as far as concerns of airport

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capacity, particularly hub airport capacity in the UK. There was a

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White Paper under the Labour administration in 2003. The current

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Government issued its own White Paper, but the discussion continued

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at political level. Finally you could say common sense prevailed.

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But an independent commission was set up with experts taking the

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political sting out of it so that a neutral, well informed, well

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researched conclusion could be reached. The commission was -- is

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expected suggest next week that expanding Heathrow is a serious

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option that should be considered. The huge expansion in the numbers of

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people using air travel is testament to the fact that lots of people love

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flying, they love going somewhere exciting. What they are less keen

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on, of course, is having a runway or flight path near them. Boris

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Johnson's solution, a Thames Estuary airport to replace Heathrow, it is

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unlikely, believe commentators, to give Boris Island clearance for

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take-off. There is to credibility in establishing a brand new airport in

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the eyes of the airport community, those who operate the hub model,

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because it takes too long. The complexity of running an airport,

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the specialist skills in the work force at an airport, you can't close

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the doors of one hub airport overnight and the next morning open

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a brand new one elsewhere. According to Heathrow's owners this is what

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the third runway option looks like, without the extra capacity London

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and Britain could start losing business. Labour's position too is

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politically tricky. As climate secretary, Ed Miliband, threatened

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to resign from the Brown cabinet if a third Heathrow runway was

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approved. Now, according to reports at least, he and Ed Balls are more

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worried about economic growth. Whatever this review suggests next

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week, well the Government isn't exactly going to be rushing towards

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the final destination, this is only an interim report coming out. The

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final report, when is that due again? Zac Goldsmith, the story MP

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who has long campaigned against Heathrow expansion is here. That may

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be the truth, we won't know what the final decision will be for some

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time, if what we are hearing about Tuesday is correct there could be

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several options on the table and most of these roads are now leading

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towards Heathrow expansion? That was certainly the case a few days ago.

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This review we have just heard about was always supposed to be an

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independent, arms length review. It seems very clear now it is nothing

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of the sort. It looks very much like George Osborne, in particular, has

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been knocking it about in the last few days, so that what finally

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emerges on Tuesday will not just be about Heathrow expansion, and we

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will have a few synthetic options thrown in to allow the Government to

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maintain ambiguity, cynically until after the election I believe. Why do

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you think that? We will have to wait and see onture, but very, very

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compelling sources are saying that there has been massive activity in

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the last few days. And the three options you have identified, which

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are absolutely in the report, will be supplemented by a few extra

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non-Heathrow-based options as well. The idea of that is this is not

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genuinely to expand the choice, this is about enabling, I think, all

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three party leaders to defer any kind of decision making until after

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the election. None of them, frankly, have the courage to front up the

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voters before the election when it really matters. It could just be

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that the case is now overwhelming, that Heathrow expansion is looking

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commercially like the most sensible thing to do. Your argument is

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bluntly discredited? I think there are a growing number of voices, I

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would say majority voice, both from within business, and I'm not just

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talking about people like myself who could be described as him in bees,

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-- NIMBYs. The idea is not to double the size of Heathrow, there is

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congestion nobody has looked at, 50 million extra passenger journeys

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every year backwards and forwards from Heathrow, it is impossible to

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look at that working out. People say it is impossible to create a

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foreign-owned monopoly on the edge of the city. It would create a

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monopoly, when we see competition has liberated Gatwick, it is a good

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airport and doing things we were told it couldn't. Stanstead is a

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good airport. Why not have a multicompetitive and ait delivers

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more choice every time for customers. Will we not know this

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until after the general election? Because we know what was in the

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original first draft of the report. Irrespective of what is produced on

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Tuesday, we know if the parties accept this report in general they

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are accepting Heathrow expansion, they need to come clean about that.

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What will you do if that is the case? I have always said to my

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constituents if the Government changes its position, which it

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hasn't yet, if it changes its position on Heathrow expansion I

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would trigger a by-election. If it happens in the manifesto in the next

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election, I wouldn't stand as a Conservative. This is a massive

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issue for people in my parish. You have always talked about the need

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for this to be this positive tension between backbenchers and the

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Government. Why don't you stay around to enact that now? David

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Cameron himself has to take, has to really think very carefully about

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this, politically a U-turn on this issue would be catastrophic for him.

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You have to remember it wasn't just a few party speech, David Cameron

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went to every single constituency effected, he stood up and said no

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ifs, buts, there will be no Heathrow expansion. It was not a throwaway

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line at the end of a speech, he went to places like Richmond and

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delivered that one line. People voted for him on the back of it to

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give him a chance. If he does a U-turn on this, it will be an off

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the scale betrayal, he will never be forgiven in west London, people

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outside west London, even if you don't care about Heathrow, they will

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take note, they will wonder how many promises can be trusted, how much

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can the Prime Minister himself be trusted if he's willing to break a

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promise so crystal clear. It is a big deal for David Cameron, he will

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have to think about this. This is close to your heart, when you became

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an MP, the green dream was all the rage for the Tories. I'm wondering

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if you feel slightly used? I think there are a lot of things said by

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all parties before elections that turn out to be synthetic, it is one

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of the reasons people don't like politicians or attach a lot of

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significance or importance to manifesto promises because they are

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broken so easily. I do think in certain respects the things that

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were promised in our manifesto in relation to energy, for example, we

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are more or less delivering, I think the language that has been used by

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the Prime Minister, reported low, and other people at the top of the

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Government, has been very loose and has done some harm in terms of

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investor confidence. In signalling a potential change of policy. What

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about the green side of energy, any of the green issues? I'm not sure,

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if you want to criticise the Government in terms of its green

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energy issues, which is what you are talking about, you don't look at the

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policies. In terms of policy we are doing what we said we would do. We

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are, it stands up to scrutiny, we are not doing enough, some of our

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policies haven't worked as well as they should have done. Green Deal

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could have been boosted in my view, we are doing what we said we would

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do. The problem is the language, when you have loose talk between the

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Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition and you hear reports in

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the Sun of words I'm not allowed to use on this programme in terms of

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green policies, I think the investors out there are beginning to

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panic. If it is the case we need ?120 billion just to get our energy

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infrastructure up to scratch. You won't achieve that creating the

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uncertainty when you use the loose language we have heard. A lot of it

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is politic rather than policy and I think, I hope the Prime Minister has

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taken that on board. ??FORCEDWHI. Perhaps it was the speed rather than

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the event itself that shocked the world fours days after North Korea's

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second-most powerful politician was removed from his post. He was, we

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ups, machine gunned to death, for state treachery. It mark as

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humiliating fall from grace It mark as humiliating fall from grace. It

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was an announcement that was in keeping with the flour I had --

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florid language used in Korean state media. A man has been executed,

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described as a dog, despicable scum, words used to describe South Korean

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leaders. No-one, not even family has immunity against the leader's wrath.

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Found guilty of a military coup, Jang Song Thaek was accused of

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trying to overthrow, Kim Jong Un, it is a far cry from when he was at the

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side of his nephew, not just at state events, but also guiding him

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when in power. He was considered the chief architect of economic policy,

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focussing on partnering his country with its neighbour and ally, China.

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He ascended to a post that put him second in power only to Kim. His

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Petersburg is being watched by allies and those with serious

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concerns. Already removed from official document TREESHGS either

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the message of no mercy is being sent, or some analysts believe

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serious instability may be around the corner.

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My guest was in North Korea for ten years and worked to produce

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sanctions against the country. Even by North Korea's standard this is

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pretty extreme, isn't it, do you understand what has gone on? They

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have never done this before. They have purged people in the past, but

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purging people in public like this, with state television showing his

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removal from a party meeting and then we see him absolutely at the

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tribunal on the front page of the paper. North Koreans must be aghast

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at what is going on. They are calling this reverse perestroika, a

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buttoning, a battening down maybe of the hatches. Was this a show for the

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outside world rather than North Korea itself? I think it was a show

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for both. It was a show for North Koreans so THAEFSH knows, not just

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Jang Song Thaek the man is dead, but also the vision he stood for, of a

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less closed North Korea, of a North Korea that earned some money by

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trading rather than trying to manufacture everything by itself,

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which he was severely criticised in the indictments. He was what we

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might call a moderate in North Korean terms? He was less

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conservative than many of his colleagues, let's put it that way. I

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wouldn't paint him as a saint everythings an unpleasant man, but

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he believed the best interests lay in a more open economy. This put him

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on a foothold with the Chinese. He was the closest that China had to an

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ally in the Government. The Chinese regarded Jang Song Thaek as their

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man at Kim's court. Their reaction after his sudden purge has been very

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telling. Firstly you had a stunned silence, then a statement and then

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military exercises on the border of North Korea. Maybe nervous about a

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flood of refugees. What about this submission to his alleged crimes. Is

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there any truth in the kind of things they were accusing him about?

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Parts of it may well be true. We know for a fact that some of the

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trade referred to there did indeed take place. They did, for example,

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sell the Chinese a five-year lease on parts of the zone. That is not a

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crime, but he did it. It is rare for show trials in North Korea that

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people convicted are found to be plotting against the Government. How

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far any of that is true we really don't know. But interestingly, and

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importantly, he is accused not just of plotting against Kim Jong Un, but

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of doing so in contact with senior military officers who were appointed

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by Kim Jong Un's father and grandfather. They are not going to

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sleep now? Not for a long time. You think essentially a purge is on the

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way for anyone who he has talked to? How does it work, the language, the

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handshake of the banquets, how do you have the conversations and

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taking people aside? People purged in North Korea find their friends

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desert them, nobody answers their phone calls and their e-mails are

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scrubbed. And people cross the street to avoid them, when it

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happens you know you are in deep trouble. I suspect that is precisely

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what is happening to a lot of Jang Song Thaek's former confidents. They

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will be blacklisted? Yes and eventually court martials by the

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military, and made just disappear. A lot of people will be very

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frightened right now. We look at this country with something like

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purance, trying to get a sense of what it is about. Does anything that

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has happened bear any relation to our own safety or our own position.

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All the west cares about is nuclear might? It does affect the rest of

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the world. We ament what the North Korean Government does to its own

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people, but there is a serious risk that in trying to cover up his own

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weakness, and clearly a purge this weak shows a big split in the North

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Korean regime. But North Korean will seek a foreign diversion. We have to

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remember that in 2010 North Korean sank a South Korean cor vet, and an

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island. We have been watching the helicopters fly to the southern sea

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board. There is a risk, I think that we may be in for further

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provocation, we can't be sure that South Korea will treat them with the

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patience th did in 2010! . A year ago this week in two of

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America's United States marijuana was legalised for the over 21, the

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change has meant not simply that authorities are burning a blind eye

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to those using it but that many in Colorado and Washington are looking

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to this new found freedom as a business opportunity to make a

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livelihood. We have been to Seattle to see how the state has ponded

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responded a year on and whether it means the war on drugs is dead.

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Public enemy number one in the United States is drug abuse. In

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order to fight and defeat this enemy, it is necessary to wage a

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new, all-out offensive. How things are changing in America. For more

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than 40 years the only answer to drugs has been declaring war on

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them. And then, all of a sudden, legalisation came along. It

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literally happened overnight, for us dinosaurs it takes a lot more to get

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our mind around it than the brand-new younger officers. With the

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new law comes a lot of new opportunities. I'm no crusade e I'm

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in it for the money. I view it as buying distilleries and breweries

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right before prohibition ended. The last time I was in a room like this

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it was on a police raid. But the growing of marijuana is emerging

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from the shadows. It has been legalised, not just for medicinal,

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but recreational use, in Colorado and in Washington state where a huge

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experiment is going on and a multibillion dollar industry is

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blooming. This particular strain is great for variety of things,

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headaches, cramps, anything with pain. Can you make comparison

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between this and let's say alcohol in terms of strength? Yes, so these

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are going to be more like a light beer, OK this is going to be more

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like a whiskey. Angel is in the medical marijuana business, as soon

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as her license comes through she will sell it for recreational use.

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She used to be avid anti-cannabis, her daughter had lifelong digestion

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problems, but it only improved when her college friend gave her hash

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cookies. I was very upset, explaining her how horrible an idea

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it was, she would lose our scholarship and all the wonderful

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things in life. The plant was not nearly as lethal as I was led to

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believe. Legalisation of cannabis means people know how strong the

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dose is, however they take it. There will be licensed producers and

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retailers, it will be taxed heavily, 25% at every level. And this is what

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legalised recreational cannabis looks like. A career to the day

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since voters backed a ballot measure, proposed by marijuana

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activists, they hosted party. The first time they were ever given a

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permit to smoke dope in public. Well, in a big tent, out of view and

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a long way from the nearest school. There have been many challenges for

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those tasked with creating a legal industry without of something that

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was illegal. And as far as the federal Government is concerned it

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is still a category I controlled substance, like heroin or cocaine.

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It is a crime under US federal law to lawneder money and introduce the

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proceeds of criminal activity into the banking system. Since cannabis

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growing is a criminal offence under federal law, banks are refusing to

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open accounts for cannabis stores. It means the customers can't use

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credit cards, and the store can't deposit receipts at the end of the

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day. Washington State has had a liberal approach to marijuana for a

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decade, as the police reclassified it as the lowest priority. In the

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city where the first ever Starbucks opened, there are now twice as many

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outlets for dope. Loopholes around its legality is attracted all sorts

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of entrepeneurs and investors. We used to fly planes. Jim used to fly

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for the Navy, chasing drug shipments across America, he never touched

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drugs and voted against legalisation. Then realised there

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was money in it. It never occurred to me that I would be an investor at

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this industry at the time when we were trying to put the people in

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jail. The irony of that, the supreme irony of that cannot be missed.

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Security systems, software to help businesses keep track of tax,

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Jimmy's found a whole variety of new investment opportunities.. When I

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earn money it is at least 18% return, and my bank is paying me 1%.

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My investments in these two start-up companies, I expect to make anywhere

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from one to ten-times my money if I'm successful. -- 10-100-times my

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money, marijuana has been very good to you. For somebody who knows

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nothing about marijuana, it has been very good to me. It has been a huge

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change for the police to deal with, both in the mind set of officers,

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and also the public. As many people still believe cannabis should be

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illegal. We are, whether we want to be or not, on the forefront of some

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what of a, if not a revolution, at least a pretty quick low-moving

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evolution. We don't know where we're going to be in a year let alone five

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years. Do you think this marks an indicator that the war on drugs has

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been a failure? The way we have addressed it, yes. The majority of

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the people that we have addressed are people who are addicted. In the

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old war on drugs it was only how many people have we put in prison,

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how many pounds or kilos have we seized. That did nothing towards the

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prevention side and nothing towards the addiction. The green revolution

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is accelerating fast, but there are still things to iron out F it is too

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cheap or too expensive, it could spark illegal trade over state

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borders. Medical users want to keep growing their own, and tax dollars

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have to be spent properly on keeping it out of the hands of the under

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21s. The big challenge remaining is how to prevent a big increase in

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drug abuse, given that you are making a drug cheaper and easily

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available and taking awhat the legal end and social stigma. That's going

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to have to be addressed. How is that done? Maintaining price, limiting

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marketing, providing consumer information that will help people

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behave reasonably. In the extreme that is not something either state

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has considered yet, I would urge them to consider it. Require every

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consumer to register as a consumer and to set a personal quota. There

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is a lot more to this than just people who have been smoking dope

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for years doing it legally. It costs a huge amount of money to put and

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keep tens of thousands of people in prison because of marijuana

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offences. Over half of America supports legalisation, which state

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wouldn't want the tax, like booze there is a lot of money in

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marijuana. This is one battle the war on drugs has lost. A new book

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about submission between the sexes has hit the best seller list. It has

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nothing to do with Fifty Shades of Grey. Casate y Se Sumisa, Marry and

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Submit Yourself is proving to be a hit in Spain and Italy where it sold

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more than 100,000 copies. It is a how-to manual for newly-married

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women, teaching them to accept criticism of their cooking and house

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keeping and how to keep the peace in the marital home. What to make of

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it, the author joins me now. Explain to us submission, it is a

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provocative word in English, what do you mean by that? First of all I'm

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sorry for my English. I'm just starting with my four children I'm

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at lesson number two, so the English is not great. I don't know the

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colouring the word has in English but I don't use it in a negative

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way. It is a word taken from the letters to St Paul to Ephesian, it

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is not to be a dormat for your husband. It is about being

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underneath, providing the support like a column supports a roof.

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Because we as women we are stronger, we are able to put people in

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relation, St Paul wrote the woman has the genius and the talent of the

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relationship. We are able to be the head, the heart, not the head, the

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heart of the family and submission is something very, very good for a

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woman. Why then has the Spanish Health Minister tried to ban your

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book? She wants it withdrawn? I really don't know because I thought

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it was because of the word "submission", but I found that there

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are many books with the word "submission" in the title sold in

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Spanish shops. Like (titles in Italian) I think the problem is with

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the word "marry", because I think that being submitted to a husband is

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felt like something terrible. I don't know why, because I think

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that, I have to say that I have also written a book for the men we can

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translate "marry her and die for her", I think that the main flow,

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the main temptation for women is to subjugate men and dominate. Do you

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understand why the book has made so many women around the world angry? I

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think because maybe we are not free from the need to be recognised from

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an outer eye. I think that when a woman is completely at peace with

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herself, is completely fulfilled, she doesn't need to be recognised

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and she can make a step back, not in the sense of being a doormat, but of

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being completely able to be the column. Is the thrust of your book

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that feminism, that freedom of work, has damaged marriage? I'm a worker,

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I work as a journalist during the day, and I write books during the

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night. And I have four children. I think that women who ask the same

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rights as men are lacking in imagination and in ambition, because

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we are so different from men. We don't need to ask the same rights,

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we need different rights. Because we can have all, but in a different

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way. And we can also say that in some periods... Of our life. I'm

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sorry we have to end it there I'm very impressed with lesson two,

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thank you very much indeed. Just before we go we will take you

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through the front pages of tomorrow's

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That's just about it from us this evening. We don't on this programme

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pay lip service to mumbo jumbo superstition about Friday 13th,

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indeed we urge people out there to take a leap out of our book, but it

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is reassuring to know we got to the end of the day without any

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catastrophes, from all of you, we wish you good night!

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Can the government resist calls to expand Heathrow? Why was North Korea's second most powerful man executed? Cannabis legalisation in Colorado and Washington State. And is marital submission a recipe for success?


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