17/01/2014 Newsnight


17/01/2014

Should NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden be pardoned? Why did the IPCC get it so wrong about the death of Mark Duggan? Getting back in shape with Nimrod Kamer.


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Today even as President Obama ordered new limits to US

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surveillance practice, he was still defending the National Security

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Agency. It may seem sometimes that America is being held to a different

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standard. And I will admit the readiness of some to assume the

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worst motives by our Government can be frustrating. Is it now time to

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give an amnesty to the man who triggered all of this, Edward

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Snowden. We will hear from Noam Chomsky, a former head of the Civil

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Service, and a key person who monitors our terror laws. The riots,

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why did the Police Complaints Authority falsely claim a victim had

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shot a policeman, and why did it take so long to detract it. The fact

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they knew and let the story run for days, should have led to serious

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resignations. Just how far will people go to get fit in January. Our

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man, Nimrod Khamer, goes the distance. Good evening. President

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Obama today made it official, Edward Snowden's revelations about the

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actions about the National Security Agency have changed US Government

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policy on surveillance. The President announced changes to the

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way phone records are collected and also promised that if he wanted to

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know what world leaders and close friends and allies were thinking he

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would lift the phone rather than monitor their calls. Has this

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exposed a deficiency in oversight and surveillance in Britain?

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President Obama's spying programme has caused shock at home and outrage

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abroad. He has been under pressure to act ever since Edward Snowden

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started revealing just how sweeping US surveillance powers have become.

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Americans are alarmed that the Government's been hoarding

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information about their phone calls. Allies like Germany's Angela Merkel

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are infuriated that America has been tapping their calls. But the

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President is also under pressure from Anne tell begins community

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warning him not to limit their power. So, which President Obama was

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at work today? The former constitutional scholar or the

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Commander-in-Chief? He criticised Edward Snowden for aiding America's

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adversaries, but said he didn't want to dwell on Snowden's actions.

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Regardless of how we got here though, the task before us now is

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greater than simply repairing the damage done to our operations or

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preventing more disclosures from taking place in the future. Instead

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we have to make some important decisions about how to protect

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ourselves and sustain our leadership in the world while upholding the

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civil liberties and privacy protections that our ideals and

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constitution require. The President stopped short to demanding an end to

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the bulk collection of American phone data. What he did promise was

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to stop the National Security Agency from holding phone records. But

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where they will be stored is up for consultation. It means the agencies

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will have to get permission from a secret intelligence court to access

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the data. And there's to be a public advocate to represent privacy

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concerns in those courts. He's also restricting America's ability to spy

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on foreign leaders. I thought it was a remarkably good speech and well

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balanced. Of course it won't please people, the most vehement critics on

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either side, but you never can. I think he has displayed an enormous

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growth of understanding of what intelligence agencies do and why

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they are important in the time he has been in office. You know when

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you actually are responsible for protecting people you behave

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differently than when all you have to do is talk about T he's

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responsible now. Today there were yet more leaks from Edward Snowden.

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This time concerning an NSA programme called Dishfire, documents

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seen by the Guardian and Channel four News reveal that the NHS has

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collected 200 million text messages a day from around the world.

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Apparently enabling the agency to track people's where abouts,

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contacts and bank details. According to the reports, GCHQ is also able to

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access the database and to access information they wouldn't normally

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be legally entitled to see. So do these revelations mean it is time

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that the Government here followed President Obama's lead and

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introduced new checks on the country's spies. Ministers refuse to

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comment on the details. The Foreign Secretary said he had seen no

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evidence of breaches of individuals' privacy, but there are calls for a

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review of the law. GCHQ contends and indeed the Foreign Secretary has

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confirmed it already today that it has always acting within a proper,

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legal framework. That being so, the question for us now is whether that

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legal framework is adequate to take account of the enormous

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technological change which has taken place since the present legislation

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of put in place. My God bless the United States of America. Thank you.

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President Obama was determined not to give Edward Snowden any credit

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today. But would the President even have made this speech if it hadn't

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been for Snowden's revelations. Many say not. They think it is time this

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exiled spy was given amnesty. I spoke to MIT professor, Noam

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Chomsky, earlier this evening, who is a supporter of Edward Snowden. I

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asked him whether he thought the whistleblower's actions have had an

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influence on foreign policy? Not foreign policy except indirectly,

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they have had a major impact on public awareness and opinion. They

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have led to the exposure of many, actually literally falsehoods about

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the nature of the policy and what it is alleged to have achieved. You

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have called for an amnesty for Edward Snowden, but President Obama

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made it pretty clear in his speech today that he thinks that the

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actions of Edward Snowden will have some far reaching consequences in

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relation to your adversaries, that may not be known for many years. I

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have gone along with the amnesty proposals but I don't think I agree

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with them. I think he should be honoured for what he did. We might

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ask for amnesty for the various people engaged in major war crimes,

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could easily name some, but you don't give amnesty to someone who

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has done the right thing. You praise him for it. Will we know in several

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years that there are negative consequences? President Obama

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doesn't know any more about that than I do. Realistically there is

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absolutely, I would have thought, no chance of Edward Snowden being

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honoured. But on the other side, do you think there is a chance that he

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will have to live out his days in Russia? Well, his coming To the end

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of his Russian visa soon, we don't know what will happen then. There

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might be other countries that might be willing to accept him, maybe

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Brazil. It is pretty clear that most of the world is pretty frightened of

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the United States. That became very obvious in the scandalous case of

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the Ava Morales presidential plane travelling back to from Russia,

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where European countries wouldn't allow the plane to enter their

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airspace, no doubt out of fear of the United States. Which is a

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vindictive power. It has made it clear at the highest level that they

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are going to do anything they can to get hold of him. Noam Chomsky. Well

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Lord Butler butt, the former Cabinet Secretary, chaired an inquiry into

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the use of intelligence in the lead up to the Iraq War, and now sits on

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the Intelligence and Security Committee. David Anderson QC is the

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independent reviewer of terrorism legislation and they are with me

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now. Edward Snowden has done the world a service, President Obama, as

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good as admitted it in the fact that they are changing the law? If all he

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had done was to draw attention to the capabilities of the intelligence

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agencies and started a debate, yes, I think that is a service. It could

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have happened before because actually these things had been

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debated in parliament. What he has done is drawn attention to it. What

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he did was to download many thousands of actual intelligence

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reports and go off to Russia and China with them. We don't know that

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anything adverse has happened as a result of that to US citizen,

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British citizens or anybody, we don't know anything? We don't know,

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but I don't think you will find the Russians and the Chinese haven't

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studied these carefully or terrorists haven't studied these

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carefully. Noam Chomsky said that you he would like to see him

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honoured, that won't happen I don't think. What about an amnesty? I

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think it is very important that in any organisation for people who come

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across genuine criminality they should have the opportunity to blow

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the whistle. I believe actually there are procedures in our

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intelligence agencies that allow that to happen. What we can't end up

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with, it seems to me, is a situation in which the likes of Mr Snowden or

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indeed the editor of the Guardian, are the people who are ultimately

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determining what it is the public can see and what is too secret for

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them to see because of the damage caused to national security. You

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think he should be charged? That is for the Americans, I don't want to

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get in to what should happen to Mr Snowden. President Obama is making

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clear that in a time of rapidly changing technology then privacy and

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civil liberties have to be protected. Let's look at your

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Intelligence Security Committee, when MI5, MI6 and GCHQ came in front

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of your committee for the first time, they knew what the questions

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were, why should the public have faith in that? It was the first time

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they had come in front of us in public. They knew the general

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subjects, but actually I thought some interesting things came out of

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that. They knew the territory, they knew the questions? It hadn't been

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rehearsed. No. One of the interesting things that came out was

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that they said they got actual evidence of the way in which

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terrorists on the basis of what Edward Snowden had revealed were

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changing their habits. They say that, but why should the public have

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any faith, if you are going to say you are putting the MI5 and MI6 and

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GCHQ in front of a committee on accountability and you tell them

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what they will be asked, where is the faith in that? It was good they

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came before the committee. Part of this is the intelligence agencies

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themselves showing a bit more transparency. Should they? I think

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they should. So far as the Intelligence and Security Committee

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is concerned, it is facing a real test. It has produced two reports in

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recent years that I think people have perceived as underwhelming. One

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on rendition, where I don't think they got to the bottom of t and one

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on 7/7, where the inquest showed there were some things they missed.

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They have an extraordinary triple now, they have got the investigation

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of Woolich, that is a detailed one. They have got the whole

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investigation of surveillance and the balance between liberty and

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security, to top that off they have also now got the againson Inquiry

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into possible complicity in torture. Those are all huge jobs. The members

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of the Intelligence and Security Committee have other things do,

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constituencies and parliamentary activities. I hope they are

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resourced to do that. Interesting, you have been underwhelming? I can't

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speak for previous committees. Have you got too much on your plate? We

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have a great deal on our plate. Is it too much? Time will tell. We are

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just finishing the Woolich inquiry, we have asked for evidence on the

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Snowden relations and the balance between liberty and security. We're

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taking on the staff that were serving the againson committee, we

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will have extra staff -- Gibson committee.

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The allegations about Dishfire, we know that it is incredibly complex,

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the allegation is that GCHQ have circumvented UK laws by taking these

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200 million texts daily, stored in the US. Our spies have accessed this

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stuff which is essentially against British law. Do they have access to

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Dishfire? I can't comment on that. Are you concerned about that? We

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will look at it, we look at all these things. But what I can remind

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you of is that during the summer it was said that GCHQ had evaded the

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law by using Prism. We did look into that, and every case in which the

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GCHQ had asked for information from NSA through Prism, there was a

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proper warrant for it. We confirmed that. So they had always acted

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within the law. Now these allegations today, I don't know, but

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we will look into it. As a matter of urgency? Well yeah, of course. But

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the problem with that is we actually don't know. If GCHQ is acting, as it

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were, outside the law, we don't know. Are you concerned about that?

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I think everybody should be concerned. I think equally they will

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be wrong to think that we're dealing here with organisations that are out

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of control. We don't just rely on the Intelligence and Security

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Committee. We also have two intelligence commissioners who are

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formidable former Court of Appeal judges who have quite respective

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low-sized staffs and who spend quite a lot of their time looking into the

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activities of GCHQ and other agencies, and coming to their own

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conclusion that is they publish, and very few people read. Thank you very

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much. Today the family of Mark Duggan,

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shot dead by police in north London in 2011 received an apology from the

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Independent Police Complaints Commisssion. The police watchdog

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said it had wrongly told the media that he had fired at the police

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before he was shot. In a damning admission, the IPCC said it knew

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that the Duggan family's confidence in the commission and investigation

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was damaged by mistakes made at an early stage. Where did the IPCC put

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out than I correct information and why didn't it correct the record as

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soon as it realised it was wrong. Here is Jim Reid.

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His death sparked the worst riots in a generation. Last week a court

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found police acted within the law when they shot and killed Mark

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Duggan. But serious questions remain about the way the authorities

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handled this case. Today the police watchdog, the IPCC, apologised to

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the Duggan family for putting out misleading information in the

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aftermath of the shooting. That information continuity out not just

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-- turned Knott -- turned out not just to be false but inflammatory.

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To look at the significance you have to look at the way events unfolded.

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Mark Duggan was shot dead at six. 15pm on August fourth. A police

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officer was taken to hospital after a bullet was found stuck in his

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radio. Almost immediately the police watchdog was called to investigate.

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The press started to call about the story. A late night spokesman at the

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IPCC told the reporter that they didn't know the order in which the

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shots were fired. We understand the officer was shot first before the

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male was shot. A clear impression was given that gunfire had been

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exchanged that evening. That a shoot out of some kind had taken place on

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the streets of Tottenham. One of the reporters given that information was

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from the Press Association, the news agency whose material is then sent

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on to every broadcaster and newspaper in the country. The same

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news was flashed up on 24-hour TV channel, that worried IPCC

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investigator Colin Sparrow, at the firearms unit HQ in Whitechapel East

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London. He told The next day the ballistics came

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out. The bullet in the radio was a police bullet, not from the gun of

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Mark Duggan, there was no dramatic firefight. But nothing was done to

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correct the false impression there was a shoot out that night. Some

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newspapers continued to say there had been. That afternoon Mark

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Duggan's family and supporters walked to Tottenham Police Station

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to protest peacefully. To put out all this misinformation, to put out

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this idea that there was a shoot out when there absolutely wasn't a shoot

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out and they knew. To refusing to to the family home to inform them.

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These are the only reasons and sole reasons we went to Tottenham Police

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Station, had they done the things they were supposed to have done we

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wouldn't have gone there. Tottenham, there wouldn't have been a riot

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there, and I would imagine there wouldn't have been riots in all

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those other areas of London where there were riots. As riots took hold

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across England the IPCC decided not to correct the full story of a shoot

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out. It took another three days until the watchdog released the

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results of those ballistic tests. The fact that they knew and let the

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story persist should have led to resignations, seems to me. There are

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two roles for IPCC in statute, one is police scrutiny and the other is

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public guardianship, on both counts they failed. So, if the police

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watchdog knew something was wrong, knew that false and inflammatory

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information was still being reported, why didn't it do something

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about it? Well, on Sunday August seventh after the first night of

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rioting, it did issue a statement, warning people to ignore rumours

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that Mark Duggan had been executed by police. But it didn't even

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mention those false reports of a firefight. The IPCC has told

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Newsnight it didn't want the results of those ballistics tests to be made

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public until its own investigators could take evidence from the

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firearms officers involved. That same afternoon 11 members of the

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Met's elite CO-19 team sat together in a room for eight hours before

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giving written statements, something allowed under the current

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guidelines. The officers involved have always denied they broke any

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rules or colluded inappropriately. It is a concern that has been raised

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before. Most notably after the shooting of Jean Charles DeMenezes.

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I think we need a team of investigative lawyers leading

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investigations. We need an Independent Police Complaints

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Commisssion that is more like the Crown Prosecution Service, only that

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can get confidence back. Today the IPCC said armed police should be

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separated after a shooting and banned from conferring. Officers

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involved in the Duggan case, will also be told to answer the

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watchdog's questions at an interview, something they have so

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far refused to do. We asked the IPCC to come on to Newsnight tonight, but

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they said they cannot be interviewed by the shooting of Mark Duggan,

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until their own investigation is complete. Jeremy Clarkson is a

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notorious and prodigious tweeter, more than two million people follow

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him on-line. Many will see the photo of him seemingly asleep on the

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plane, surrounded by Top Gear colleagues, next to a piece of paper

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with a message scrawled on it, which some would find offensive. "Sadly I

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fell asleep on the plane" when the image was shared on-line. He later

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deleted the tweet and wanted to apologise to anyone who was upset by

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the tweet. Joining me is the rugby player turned Strictly star and

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anti-bullying campaigner. You have seen the picture, what do you think

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of it? Initially I was shocked at the word "gay" used in an offensive

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manner. The horrible swear word offensive to women any way. It was

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disappointing to see that. Again you know, we know that Clarkson is very

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close to the bone in the stuff he Does. And the power of social media

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and why we are here talking about it. He has to be a role model and

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can't be seen to be doing the wrong thing. Personally I think we need to

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educate the next beginlation to understand what gay means, and not

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in a casual homophobic way with him sleeping on a plane alongside

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offensive wear words. Again, he's in the public eye, on one of the

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biggest TV shows in England with Top Gear. You know, it is a shame that

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you know it has come to this point of him being smeared across the

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papers. But I think that personally he has afollow -- apologised, and

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how can we draw the positives out in some respects and use what he has

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done to educate people about it and say he has done wrong and apologised

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and taken it off Twitter. Now we need to use that and say that's not

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acceptable in a social media environment. It wasn't exactly a

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fulsome apology. What I wonder is you are very acutely aware of

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bullying, I wondered if you were the son of a father who was a big Top

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Gear fan and you saw that, and you were a son that was gay and perhaps

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hadn't come out. What impact a tweet like that would have. Clarkson's

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followers are also kids? Yeah, absolutely. You know not only in

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this country, you know Top Gear is global. Ultimately you know the word

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"gay" at the moment, especially in playgrounds is used in casual way,

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casual homophobia in playgrounds is rife, it can be "faggot", "homo" or

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"gay". If you are the father of a child in the closet or mother, one

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you probably might not know, for that reason, when that child might

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not want to come out and think actually if I come out what will I

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be subjected to. If it all right to see star on TV doing that, he's

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portraying that is OK and perreceiving that is OK. It is the

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knock-on effects it has. Bearing in mind we have come a long way. 20

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years ago it was racism and it has taken that next generation to drive

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a cultural change. Homophobia is where racism was 20 years ago. There

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is a lot of work to be done. And it does start by educating the next

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generation of youngsters. That is how I perceive it. Do you think he

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should do a bit of penance? I can't hear you. Do you think he should do

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penance? I can't hear you, sorry, good night.

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We wanted to talk to Jeremy Clarkson tonight but we were unable to

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contact him. January is traditionally the month

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when people sometimes make rash decisions to go dry, go low-carb,

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get fit fast. The Sunday supplements are full of fitness programmes

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promising to change your life and the clothes and gears to go with it.

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The new fad is Extreme Fittness, we sent Nimrod Khamer out to look at

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four of the latest crazes. Hydrospining, which combines cycling

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and swimming is huge in France, and only just now arrived in the UK. I

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went to check it out. The resistance is 12-times higher than with air,

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because you are inside the water. So you burn much more calories, now you

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are inside the water, I want you to go much quicker. Go on. She gave me

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a challenge to hit the record speed of 60 kms per hour. I'm not sure you

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have the perfect position. It was a little bit tougher than I thought.

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40. 50 if you want to challenge. You want to maybe film the numbers!

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After all that exercise, I needed something less strenuous and more

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relaxing, like yoga with your dog. Doga! So the dog was chosen because

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he is the most comfortable? He's man's best friend and they like to

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be touched and they are very complimentry to the owner. This is

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the breed that I -- breathing that I use. You have to lift your eyes and

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go "hah", "hah". Lift him up. : I'm not going to lie it was weird and it

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got even weirder. Row, row, row the boat

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# Gently down the stream... . What are you doing with your feet

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Breathe into your waistline. Use that breath. Just stay still, let's

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do it again, I'm going to give you a little squash and we're going to

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breathe together. Breathe, push your hips up. Inhale! Lift up, lift up,

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lift up. There, push into your arms, straighten t arms. I had a good

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time, but my sternest test was still to come.

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I went to a session called Vikings and Valkaries, designed to separate

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the men from the boys. Take it up with momentum push. Down, down,

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down. Try the technique. Just pretend I'm wrecking it. You have to

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grab both hands. We have some big kit and see great results for people

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who come not being able to lift the tyre within an inch, and within a

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few weeks they are flipping it five or six times up and down the track.

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Heave, heave. Heave. I had held my own against some seriously big guy,

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but wanted to try something more cardiovascular. The new tip after

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work activity all Overgrown town, is exercise and raving, Raveosise. She

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showed us the move and we had to copy her. There is no alcohol, it is

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healthy and it is a fun thing to do after work and it gets you fit

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really. I had loads of fun, but after a long day of extreme exercise

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I felt raved out. But I guess that's the point. Nimrod Khamer, clearly

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loved Doga the best. Tomorrow morning's front

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25 leading charities urge David Cameron to open Britain's doors to

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its share of the most vulnerable refugees. And finally on the

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That's it for tonight. Jeremy back on Monday. We leave you the work of

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the University of Queensland's Global University Institute, they

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spent years filming coral and then speeding the images

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Good evening, today's heavy showers have cleared away,

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