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Miliband. Well, look, you know and I know I'm not from central casting. | :00:13. | :00:16. | |
You can find people who are more square jawed, who look less like | :00:17. | :00:24. | |
Wallis. The Labour leader lays bare his image problem and admits he's | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
awkward on camera. Will the public agree with him. The slowest recovery | :00:30. | :00:35. | |
for 100 years or the day they declare the economy booming. Are you | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
better off than you were six years ago. We talk to the Chancellor, | :00:39. | :00:43. | |
George Osborne. I'm the first to say today is not the day where we say | :00:44. | :00:47. | |
job done, it is the day we resolve to do more, so yes, people feel | :00:48. | :00:55. | |
prosperity. We have our Newsnight proms in the studio. | :00:56. | :01:16. | |
Good evening, telling people you look like a cartoon character was | :01:17. | :01:21. | |
always going to be gamble. Reminding people of awkward photo moments can | :01:22. | :01:25. | |
go both ways too. What Ed Miliband did today was brave, confronting his | :01:26. | :01:30. | |
critics face on, he admitted PR was not battle he often won. He said he | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
hoped people looked for more than chisel good looks from a Prime | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
Minister, the public have learned to like Labour's policy but will they | :01:41. | :01:47. | |
love Ed, will voters come away refreshed by his honesty, or hear a | :01:48. | :01:54. | |
man who hasn't convinced him he's a leader. | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
Plenty of people have said it before, Ed Miliband doesn't always | :02:01. | :02:03. | |
look good in a photo. He can come across a bit awkward, a bit, well, | :02:04. | :02:09. | |
strange. The strange thing today was not that someone was saying this | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
again, but that person was none other than Ed Miliband himself. This | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
was billed as an important speech launching Labour's summer campaign, | :02:21. | :02:23. | |
Ed Miliband looked pretty uncomfortable as he waited to go on. | :02:24. | :02:27. | |
This was afterall a bold move to focus on his failings in an attempt | :02:28. | :02:33. | |
to neutralise them. I'm not from central casting, you can find people | :02:34. | :02:40. | |
who are more square-jawed. More chiselled, who look less like | :02:41. | :02:48. | |
Wallace! And I even believe, I even believe that you could probably find | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
people who look better eating a bacon sandwich! If you want the | :02:55. | :03:05. | |
politician from central casting it's just not me. It's the other guy. | :03:06. | :03:11. | |
This was, of course a dig at David Cameron, Labour has long sought to | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
cast him as the slick insubstantial PR guy. But in the process Ed | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
Miliband is guarnteeing that every newspaper, bulletin and blog will | :03:21. | :03:25. | |
show endless unflattering photos of him portrayed at Wallace, or going | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
head-to-head with bacon sandwich and losing. Or any number of shots in | :03:31. | :03:33. | |
which he doesn't look like everyone's idea of a world's | :03:34. | :03:37. | |
statesman in waiting. Leaders with low personal ratings are caught in a | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
Catch 22 situation, they can either pretend they don't exist and get on | :03:42. | :03:44. | |
with it, but that doesn't work. Because it becomes a permanent | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
theme. Or they try to address it. And in trying to address it today I | :03:49. | :03:53. | |
think Ed Miliband did it quite effectively by framing the debate | :03:54. | :03:56. | |
about leadership between seriousness, him, and the guy who is | :03:57. | :04:02. | |
good at photo opportunities but is quite hypocritical in his values, | :04:03. | :04:08. | |
Cameron. Mr Miliband clearly believes the rehashing of all these | :04:09. | :04:11. | |
odd-looking pictures, here is another one, is a price worth | :04:12. | :04:15. | |
paying, if, as he told me in answer to a question after the speech he | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
can change the way we think about politics and leadership. You know | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
David the honest feeling I have about this is thank goodness, let's | :04:24. | :04:26. | |
have this debate, it is not just about me, frankly, this has been a | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
long time coming, and if we don't have this debate now we will have to | :04:32. | :04:34. | |
have it at some point. Is politics really in touch with what people | :04:35. | :04:37. | |
want from our politics. Other politicians have tried to neutralise | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
image problems too by acknowledging them. Iain Duncan Smith knew he | :04:42. | :04:47. | |
couldn't compete with the volume generated by Tony Blair, instead he | :04:48. | :04:50. | |
tried to cast himself as something different. Do not underestimate the | :04:51. | :05:01. | |
determination of a quiet man. Gordon Brown feared comparisons with | :05:02. | :05:04. | |
Mr Blair and David Cameron, his response, not flash, just Gordon, | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
and incidentally not successful. Will it work for Ed Miliband? It | :05:10. | :05:14. | |
will appeal to some people. But the bigger problems is that most people | :05:15. | :05:17. | |
have already decided, they have decided some time ago. You have been | :05:18. | :05:21. | |
in leader of the opposition for four or five years, they are not just | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
suddenly going to say, he has told me to look at him differently, now I | :05:25. | :05:32. | |
will. Of the The problem was put by Ronald Regan succinctly, if you are | :05:33. | :05:38. | |
explaining, you are losing. No more photo opportunities like this one, | :05:39. | :05:44. | |
we shall see. Time is not on Ed Miliband's side, just a few short | :05:45. | :05:47. | |
months to convince voters to change their assessment of him and what a | :05:48. | :05:50. | |
Prime Minister should look like. Joining us now is Lucy Powell a | :05:51. | :05:56. | |
Labour shadow minister who ran Ed Miliband's 2010 leadership campaign. | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
And Phil Collins of the Times, Tony Blair's former speech writer. As | :06:02. | :06:04. | |
David was saying it is a license for every broadcaster to run 100 bad | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
photos of Ed Miliband, do you think it will change anything Phil? I | :06:09. | :06:11. | |
doubt there are many people who haven't made up their mind about Ed | :06:12. | :06:15. | |
Miliband. I also think that it is never true that anyone who has an | :06:16. | :06:19. | |
image problem doesn't have a real problem underneath it I think the | :06:20. | :06:23. | |
idea that you can separate an image problem from an actual problem is an | :06:24. | :06:29. | |
illusion. The image is a convinced form of reality. What the image is | :06:30. | :06:33. | |
telling you is something genuine about the way people think. People | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
are not idiots, they don't fall for an image that is entirely false. So | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
when you get things like the bacon sandwich, it is not that anyone | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
thinks eating bacon sandwiches a test of political virility, they are | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
thinking this is a visual metaphor for significant thought already, | :06:50. | :06:57. | |
which is I don't regard this man as prime ministerial? Why? Not because | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
of the bacon sandwich, but the test that the Labour Party has to pass on | :07:02. | :07:04. | |
running the nation, in particular the economy. There was the Regan | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
phrase, if you are explaining you are losing, which in essence is what | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
Phil said, if you have to come on to a stage and say you are not very | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
good as a PR man, you have lost them already? The bulk of the speech was | :07:19. | :07:21. | |
talking about the positive things he brings to the table I think they are | :07:22. | :07:24. | |
the things that fundamentally are the things that people want to see | :07:25. | :07:27. | |
in a Prime Minister. You know what is it that we're actually asking for | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
from a Prime Minister? Do we want somebody who gets up every morning | :07:32. | :07:35. | |
thinking what can I do today to help Labour win the election and to | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
change the country or do we want somebody who will get up in the | :07:40. | :07:42. | |
morning and worry what they will look like in a contrived photo | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
opportunity situation that day? So I think what Ed offers, which is a big | :07:47. | :07:52. | |
vision, which is good policies about really fundamentally changing this | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
country so people who work two jobs don't have to go down to a foodbank | :07:57. | :08:01. | |
every day to get their meals. Or are we worried about how we eat a bacon | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
sandwich, which is ridiculous. You ran Ed Miliband's campaign, this was | :08:07. | :08:09. | |
what four years ago now, we are coming up to an election in May, did | :08:10. | :08:12. | |
you realise, did you ever spy that this might be a problem. That he is | :08:13. | :08:19. | |
now admitting, we're putting it out in the open, did you see that? This | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
is not different from what we have always known about Ed and what he | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
has said about himself. He is by his own admission that is a guy that is | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
more interested in policy, principle and conviction. When you are taking | :08:33. | :08:35. | |
on Phil's point there, that is what the public actually say about Ed, | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
they think he is a man of principle and man of conviction. They think he | :08:40. | :08:42. | |
is a man who has good policies and the right ideas. What about | :08:43. | :08:46. | |
authenticity, do they believe in him. Why does he become Labour | :08:47. | :08:49. | |
leader and then feel the urge to get married the next month? I don't | :08:50. | :08:56. | |
think it is true, Lucy, I think that nobody who supported Ed Miliband | :08:57. | :08:58. | |
would have thought that four years on he would have to make this | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
speech. If you remember at the time the thing about his leadership bid, | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
he was someone who could connect directly with the people. That is | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
turned out not to be true. I don't disagree what you said about the | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
substantive questions, the question is whether he can be the messenger | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
for the messages. I think it is clear that he clearly cannot. I | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
disagree, there are two reasons why I backed Ed Miliband to be leader | :09:27. | :09:28. | |
the Labour Party and so many other people did, firstly, I think he | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
understood better than any of the other contenders at the time about | :09:34. | :09:35. | |
the fundamental change we needed to see in our economy and politics in | :09:36. | :09:38. | |
this country which, I think other people thought we could just have | :09:39. | :09:42. | |
one more go, one more heave of the same with a new cast. When you look | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
at the policies and the poll, the policies do well, the leader does | :09:47. | :09:49. | |
not. Don't you feel you backed the wrong horse? I I absolutely do not, | :09:50. | :09:55. | |
I'm incredibly proud of what Ed has done over the last four years, I | :09:56. | :09:58. | |
know I will make extremely good Prime Minister. The issues he's | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
talking about are the issues that I get on the doorstep, they are the | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
issues people are interested in. Honestly are we really going to | :10:07. | :10:09. | |
decide who is the Prime Minister of this country on the basis of whether | :10:10. | :10:13. | |
you stand awkwardly when you are at a nursery or whether you are eating | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
a bacon sandwich. That is the question that is on tonight? Nobody | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
is thinking of it like that. It is unfortunate to say the least that he | :10:21. | :10:24. | |
made this speech on the day which the economy recovered to the size it | :10:25. | :10:30. | |
has since the 2008 crash. What the visual representations of his | :10:31. | :10:33. | |
weakness tell us is people don't think Labour can be trusted with the | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
economy. There are two weaknesses the Labour Party have had since Ed | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
became leader, one is the question of leadership and the second | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
economic competence. They are totally linked, this speech was an | :10:45. | :10:47. | |
attempt to separate the two, as if you can have leadership over there, | :10:48. | :10:50. | |
as if it is leadership not about anything in particular, it is | :10:51. | :10:53. | |
leadership about the economy. Labour is miles behind on the economy. | :10:54. | :10:57. | |
Until he does a second speech which is a me cull a on the economy, there | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
is no way this can have an impact. He's trying to separate it, did you | :11:03. | :11:06. | |
ever write Tony Blair a speech that put weaknesses on the table that | :11:07. | :11:10. | |
said, here you are. Yes, you do it all the time. I completely | :11:11. | :11:14. | |
understand the imperative behind the speech, I don't think it was a bad | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
speech in that sense, it was the right thing to do. What were the | :11:18. | :11:20. | |
weaknesses you laid bare for Tony Blair? There were loads of them, | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
they were ages ago and often economic. That is the one that is | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
what we are talking about tonight. Are you saying that a good speech | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
means you get away with it and people don't talk about it? A good | :11:33. | :11:35. | |
speech always confronts the weakness. It always cites the | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
opposing case. Like what? And puts it very strongly. Labour, you go | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
back to the beginning of Blair's time, Labour were considered to be | :11:45. | :11:47. | |
extremely weak on the economy, between them Blair and Brown | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
entirely neutralised that objection. On crime Labour did the same thing. | :11:53. | :11:55. | |
At the moment Labour is extremely weak on the economy of economic | :11:56. | :11:58. | |
competence, and you cannot have a speech about leadership which, | :11:59. | :12:01. | |
doesn't go straight to economic competence. This speech tried to | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
separate those two things. I don't think it did. And Ed Balls were was | :12:06. | :12:15. | |
the cabinet, Ed Balls was making mass plastacine figures at a school? | :12:16. | :12:18. | |
The fundamental debate in this country is about the economy, who is | :12:19. | :12:23. | |
sharing and benefitting in the proceeds of growth in the figure | :12:24. | :12:26. | |
West see today, is it a few at the top who are doing very nicely out of | :12:27. | :12:30. | |
this recovery, or is it ordinary people like I represent. It is not | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
ordinary people I represent, who have two incomes coming into the | :12:35. | :12:37. | |
household and can't afford to buy a school uniform for their kids. Or | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
who have a job and it is not a route out of poverty. Ed Miliband is | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
addressing these big issues, and I think that is something we want to | :12:45. | :12:47. | |
see in a Prime Minister. Not someone who is worried getting up in the | :12:48. | :12:51. | |
morning, and worrying about how they can contriumph a situation to make | :12:52. | :13:02. | |
them -- -- contrive a situation. Ronald Regan brought up the question | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
of how much better off are people when they wake up. The Chancellor's | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
figures say the economy is back to where it was in two OK 008, some | :13:12. | :13:17. | |
would say better. But there are stagnating wages and an on going | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
struggle about the deficit. How would you answer the Regan question | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
and how solid are the economics underneath. We interviewed the | :13:27. | :13:29. | |
Chancellor in Newcastle. GDP, the overall size of the economy | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
grew by zero. 8% in the most recent quarter, it is up three. 1% in the | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
last year, and yesterday the IMF forecast that this year the UK would | :13:40. | :13:42. | |
grow faster than any other advanced economy. The big news is that the | :13:43. | :13:49. | |
economy is finally returned to its prerecession peak. But the sector | :13:50. | :13:55. | |
level is a different story. Services passed the peak in 2013, but | :13:56. | :13:58. | |
construction and production are well below six years ago. While the | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
nation's income is back to its previous size, that is not yet the | :14:03. | :14:06. | |
case for individual incomes. That is simply because the money is spread | :14:07. | :14:09. | |
around a much larger population than it was six years ago. And compared | :14:10. | :14:15. | |
to the periods immediately after the 1980s and 1990s' recession, this | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
recovery has been historically slow. Why has it taken our economy so long | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
to return to where it was in 2008? Thanks to the hard work of the | :14:25. | :14:27. | |
British people we have reached a major milestone in our long-term | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
economic plan, but I'm the first to say that the job is isn't done. That | :14:31. | :14:36. | |
a great recession has had a huge impact on the United Kingdom, and | :14:37. | :14:40. | |
let us resolve not to repeat the mistakes of the past but go on | :14:41. | :14:43. | |
working to plan that is delivering greater economic security for | :14:44. | :14:46. | |
people, that is delivering a brighter future for all. If we look | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
at the public sector finance figures which came out earlier this week, we | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
see income tax receipts were up by less than 3% in the last year. But | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
stamp duty receipts were up more than ho %, 40 -- 40%, does that tell | :15:01. | :15:06. | |
us about the nature of the recovery? Jobs are created all over the | :15:07. | :15:09. | |
country. In the north-east of England we had the fastest rate of | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
job creation than any part of the country. 5,000 jobs, that is | :15:14. | :15:18. | |
economic security for families. Of -- 65,000 jobs. That is economic | :15:19. | :15:20. | |
security for families. The economy will grow and we can take a | :15:21. | :15:24. | |
realistic assessment of what the country can afford and the deficit | :15:25. | :15:27. | |
comes down. At the heart of the economic plan is restoring | :15:28. | :15:31. | |
confidence in the UK, creating jobs and growing our economy, but of | :15:32. | :15:34. | |
course there is much more to do. That fact that income tax is growing | :15:35. | :15:38. | |
so slowly, stamp duty associated with the housing market is growing | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
so quickly, it tells us something, it tells us that people's income | :15:43. | :15:46. | |
growth has been weak, but the housing market is up 20% in London, | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
10% nationwide, is this the kind of recovery we wanted? What I'm | :15:51. | :15:53. | |
passionate about is people having economic security, people who didn't | :15:54. | :15:56. | |
have jobs having jobs. That is what the recovery is delivering. But | :15:57. | :15:59. | |
Britain has got to earn its way in the future. We have to export more, | :16:00. | :16:03. | |
we have to invest more. We have to make sure that the business like | :16:04. | :16:09. | |
where I was yesterday in Stockton, that business, a small manufacturing | :16:10. | :16:12. | |
business is able to sell its wares all over the world. That is what I'm | :16:13. | :16:17. | |
working on. That is the long-term economic plan. As you said lots of | :16:18. | :16:21. | |
people in work, record numbers in employment, that is very, very good | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
news, but you know the downside has been productivity, output per hour, | :16:27. | :16:32. | |
how productive people have is weak since 2008, that is a big | :16:33. | :16:35. | |
medium-term challenge when you talk about the long-term plan. What are | :16:36. | :16:38. | |
you going to do about productivity? I agree with you, productivity is a | :16:39. | :16:46. | |
long-term plan, I would rather have the productivity challenge than the | :16:47. | :16:48. | |
long-term unemployment like in the past. In the end the country can | :16:49. | :16:53. | |
only be productive if we are improving skills and education, and | :16:54. | :16:56. | |
we are delivering that with reforms. If at the same time the economic | :16:57. | :17:00. | |
infrastructure of the country is being improved, cities like here in | :17:01. | :17:03. | |
Newcastle should be part of a northern powerhouse where we bring | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
real transport connections for the future here. So these are all the | :17:09. | :17:12. | |
things we can do to improve our productivity. But for me this is | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
further evidence of why we have to go on working through the plan. | :17:18. | :17:20. | |
Things like productivity, things like the imbalance in our economy, | :17:21. | :17:25. | |
things like the fact that our education system continues to need | :17:26. | :17:28. | |
to improve. These are all future challenges. Looks at the IMF | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
forecast yesterday, excellent news for the upgrades for the UK, but in | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
general global growth was revised down by the IMF, and big downward | :17:37. | :17:42. | |
revision, a lot of challenges in the world economy, Russia, Ukraine, | :17:43. | :17:47. | |
southern Europe, could this blow us off course? I thought the IMF | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
forecasts were revealing, because it said Britain was growing faster than | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
any other major western economy. That is due to the long-term plan we | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
are pursuing. But also, as you point out, in the rest of the world, | :18:00. | :18:03. | |
unfortunately, the economy is not as strong as we would hope. On the | :18:04. | :18:09. | |
continent of Europe, in the eurozone it is weak. That is a challenge for | :18:10. | :18:12. | |
the UK. We are an open and global economy. What it says do me is we | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
need to redouble our links with the Chinas, the Indias of this world, so | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
that we export more to the faster-growing parts of our economy. | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
In the world. That is what I'm determined to do, I was in India a | :18:27. | :18:29. | |
few weeks ago. That is how you deal with the challenge of a slower of | :18:30. | :18:36. | |
growing Europe. You said this week that the economic should be bearing | :18:37. | :18:42. | |
economic pain by imposing sanctions on Russia, how much pain should he | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
be prepared to bear? The situation in the Ukraine is troubling not just | :18:47. | :18:50. | |
for the people of Ukraine but the whole international community and | :18:51. | :18:53. | |
the UK. There is an economic cost from sanctions, I won't pretend | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
otherwise. You have to consider the economic cost of allowing a | :18:58. | :18:59. | |
situation where international borders are ignored. Where | :19:00. | :19:03. | |
commercial airlines and innocent people are shot out of the sky. That | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
is a much greater economic risk for the UK. We will act with our | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
European partners and American partners to impose sanctions where | :19:12. | :19:14. | |
they are necessary, to make sure that Russia complies with the norms | :19:15. | :19:20. | |
of international law. At this point in the Gaza crisis | :19:21. | :19:25. | |
even a 12-hour cease-fire has to be hard fought. As we came on air a | :19:26. | :19:30. | |
senior Israeli had told the BBC they were considering one day's truce | :19:31. | :19:35. | |
starting tomorrow, Hamas has ly agreed, we are reading that in the | :19:36. | :19:39. | |
last few minutes. John Kerry is pushing for seven days, an ambition | :19:40. | :19:44. | |
that seems elusive given the events of the last 18 days, on the day of | :19:45. | :19:50. | |
rage the death toll continued to rise, more in Gaza and the West | :19:51. | :19:55. | |
Bank. As Ramadan draws to a close, France will have a meeting to seek | :19:56. | :20:01. | |
peace. Turkey may hold the role that Egypt once held as mediators. John | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
Kerry said he still hoped for a seven-day humanitarian truce for | :20:07. | :20:12. | |
next week's Eid festival, but there was terminology to work through. | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
More than 800 Palestinians, mostly civilians and 36 Israelis have died | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
since the start of the conflict 18 days ago. | :20:23. | :20:25. | |
Palestinian leaders called for day of rage, in protest at the death of | :20:26. | :20:31. | |
civilians. Fighting continued throughout the day in Gaza and in | :20:32. | :20:36. | |
the West Bank. Hamas is yet to respond to the proposed cease-fire, | :20:37. | :20:39. | |
but its leaders have already said the group won't agree to a deal | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
without an end to Israel's blockade. In a statement tonight Israel's | :20:44. | :20:46. | |
Defence Minister said the country may soon broaden its ground | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
operation there. The efforts to broker a lasting cease-fire have | :20:52. | :20:54. | |
been complicated by the recent breakdown of the national unity | :20:55. | :21:01. | |
Government of Fatah and Hamas. Fatah's commission for international | :21:02. | :21:04. | |
relations join us from Ramallah. There is a small window for | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
optimisim, but do you look at Hamas and its position of strength and | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
think that their tactics appear to be working better? Let me state I'm | :21:13. | :21:22. | |
relieved for the 12 hours n our situation that would mean saving the | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
lives of tens and hundreds, primarily children. The UN | :21:28. | :21:32. | |
statistics today showed every hour we lose a Palestinian child because | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
of the Israeli bombardment and the guided missiles, so in these 12 | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
hours we would have saved 12 Palestinian children. As for the | :21:42. | :21:45. | |
long-term prospects for this, let me also state three crucial facts right | :21:46. | :21:48. | |
from the beginning. First this is not Israel's war against Hamas. This | :21:49. | :21:51. | |
is really Israel's war against the Palestinian people. It did not start | :21:52. | :21:58. | |
in Gaza but in the West Bank, and after that incident which still has | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
so many question marks next to it, the disappearance of the three | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
settlers. The second fact, this is not about really a truce here or a | :22:09. | :22:12. | |
truce there. Israel started and imposed this war on us in our | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
entirety, and lastly this is not about rockets it is about | :22:18. | :22:19. | |
occupation, it is about the denial of basic rights. And therefore to | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
put things into perspective, not to be lost in the details is important | :22:24. | :22:26. | |
for the discussion, please go ahead. Absolutely, I just want to look at | :22:27. | :22:30. | |
the role that Hamas is playing, they seem to be completely dominating | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
negotiations at the moment, and I wonder whether you think you are | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
moving towards the Hamas line now? No, I don't think the calculation is | :22:39. | :22:44. | |
such. This is not a rivalry between Fatah and Hamas, both Fatah and | :22:45. | :22:47. | |
Hamas are targeted, the Israeli missiles that come from the most | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
sophisticated army and the most sophisticated air force does not | :22:53. | :22:55. | |
really distinguish between this Hamas family or that Hamas or Fatah | :22:56. | :22:59. | |
family. They wipe out entire families and some of them or even | :23:00. | :23:04. | |
most of them are civilians non-Hamas and non-Fatah, some of them are | :23:05. | :23:09. | |
Fatah, all of us on the occupied terrorists realise this is | :23:10. | :23:12. | |
Netenyahu's onslaught on us, first it was Netenyahu's coup d'etat | :23:13. | :23:15. | |
against our national unity Government which was only struck a | :23:16. | :23:19. | |
few days before the Hebron incident. It was his attempt... The division, | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
from the outside world, people have looked at Fatah and said you can | :23:24. | :23:28. | |
negotiate better with Israel without Hamas being part of the | :23:29. | :23:31. | |
negotiations. Do you see yourself as more compromised now, you have to | :23:32. | :23:36. | |
move towards Hamas if you want solidarity for the Palestinian | :23:37. | :23:38. | |
people. You have to move towards Israel if you want peace? Emily your | :23:39. | :23:47. | |
question is the main point here is the Hamas-Fatah relationship, there | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
is no Hamas rockets in the West Bank and yet the Israeli army have reeked | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
havoc here in the last four or five weeks. Five Palestinians were | :23:57. | :24:06. | |
murdered today, an Israeli settler decided to spray those leaving the | :24:07. | :24:09. | |
mosque. There is no rockets in the West Bank, the only difference is in | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
the West Bank we have a sweeping colonisation, and theft of land | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
right in fronted of the cameras, this is not about Hamas. Thank you, | :24:20. | :24:24. | |
your point very well made. Thank you very much for joining us, we have | :24:25. | :24:31. | |
just run out of time. If you want to know what twitch ask | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
a 14-year-old. The gaming site is on the verge of being bought by Google | :24:37. | :24:42. | |
for $14 billion, it makes no sense until you realise the site has 45 | :24:43. | :24:47. | |
million dedicated gamers and more traffic than Amazon. It allows | :24:48. | :24:51. | |
others to watch others playing games. Why would you want to? This | :24:52. | :24:55. | |
is going well out of control. Who would want to watch teenagers just | :24:56. | :25:00. | |
clicking away, playing their video games all night. Good pass, just you | :25:01. | :25:06. | |
know so good. It turns out that number runs into millions. Twitch is | :25:07. | :25:10. | |
a service that lets gamers broadcast what is on their screen, live to | :25:11. | :25:14. | |
huge audiences around the world. Now Google is rumoured to be snapping it | :25:15. | :25:19. | |
up for a billion dollars. One of its largest-ever deals. Google already | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
owns YouTube and advertising on video, on-line on YouTube is already | :25:24. | :25:28. | |
a big business. It is just seeing that Twitch is growing like a weed | :25:29. | :25:33. | |
in the on-line video space. But cracking something that it has not | :25:34. | :25:37. | |
done before, which is this live streaming, it really wants a slice | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
of that pie to expand the YouTube business. It all might sound like a | :25:42. | :25:45. | |
silly amount of money, but the other numbers linked to Twitch are just as | :25:46. | :25:51. | |
impressive. Last year the site attracted 45 million viewers every | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
month. Making it by far the largest of its type. At one point it | :25:56. | :26:00. | |
accounted for 43% of all live streaming across the entire | :26:01. | :26:05. | |
internet. YouTube, by comparison, makes up just zero. 5%. But there is | :26:06. | :26:11. | |
another statistic that makes it incredibly attractive to | :26:12. | :26:15. | |
advertisers, more than 60% of its young viewers watch for more than 20 | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
hours a week. The kind of number that would make a middle-aged | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
television executive weep. If you said ten years ago that people would | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
be literally watching live as someone else played a video game, | :26:27. | :26:31. | |
and that would be an enormous video business, no-one would have believed | :26:32. | :26:34. | |
you. And yet it is enormous in Asia, that is why you haven't heard about | :26:35. | :26:38. | |
it much in the west. But it is part of a much wider global trend. Kids | :26:39. | :26:42. | |
today don't watch traditional television in the way they used to. | :26:43. | :26:46. | |
They are watching video games, like their real sports. Crazy stuff at | :26:47. | :26:55. | |
the University of Effort. But the success of Twitch tells us something | :26:56. | :26:59. | |
about how the media landscape is changing. The rise of streaming | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
sites has made stars of young video bloggers like JJ from Watford. I | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
thought I would be a bit more real this time. He has more than eight | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
million regular subscribers, making his work incredibly influential, | :27:12. | :27:14. | |
he's a big user of sites like Twitch. TV is boring, you can't | :27:15. | :27:23. | |
choose what you want to watch, you just see what you want to watch. | :27:24. | :27:26. | |
With the Internet you are able to pick what you want to watch. Choose | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
and you are able to choose what you want to watch at a certain time. But | :27:32. | :27:36. | |
Twitch doesn't just let gamers broadcast their video its be also | :27:37. | :27:43. | |
the leader in competitive gaming, a semiprofessional spectator sport | :27:44. | :27:46. | |
which is offering prize pools bigger than major golf tournaments. A World | :27:47. | :27:51. | |
Championship event was held in Seattle, boasting a prize pool | :27:52. | :27:56. | |
reaching more than $10 million. We love it, obviously in Asia they love | :27:57. | :28:05. | |
it like insane. That's why they are able to have e-sports events and | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
sell out arenas and have dollar 11 million prize spots. It is insane. | :28:12. | :28:16. | |
In way the purchase of Twitch is not gamble on the future. For millions | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
of young teenagers and gamers around the world, this is a major part of | :28:21. | :28:27. | |
their daily lives. Let me take you through tomorrow's papers before we | :28:28. | :28:31. | |
go. The times has a new missile threat. | :28:32. | :28:49. | |
That's all for tonight. We leave you with ruby Hughes, the celebrated | :28:50. | :28:58. | |
soprano performing at the Royal Albert Hall on Sunday. Though | :28:59. | :29:06. | |
performs the lullaby Nana. ?CLEAR | :29:07. | :29:40. | |
She performs Nana in Spanish) Another warm night ahead, but the | :29:41. | :31:11. | |
heat will ebb away this weekend. The mist low cloud in eastern areas | :31:12. | :31:15. | |
burning off quickly. Most of England and Wales having a dry, warm day. | :31:16. | :31:19. | |
Something a | :31:20. | :31:20. |