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there are reports of many dead in Paris | :00:00. | :00:11. | |
in several major suspected terror attacks in the city. | :00:12. | :00:14. | |
There is an ongoing hostage situation at a Paris concert hall. | :00:15. | :00:16. | |
We'll have the latest news and analysis from Paris and London. | :00:17. | :00:20. | |
In Syria, two blows for ISIS, the likely death of the | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
British Kuwaiti Mohammed Emwazi, and their rout in Sinjar, So will | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
Isis be defeated by targetted drone strikes or hard fought combat? | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
And on Artsnight, Radio One DJ Clara Amfo looks | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
at how the celebrity machine works and meets one of the world's most | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
What is your interaction with the public like? You try to keep as far | :00:40. | :00:54. | |
away from the general public as possible, limit your interactions | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
with them, when you are successful and it is publicly noted, you become | :00:58. | :00:59. | |
a target. There is turmoil | :01:00. | :01:08. | |
in Paris tonight after suspected coordinated terror attacks that have | :01:09. | :01:11. | |
resulted in several deaths. French television is reporting | :01:12. | :01:18. | |
as many as 40 dead. There was a shootout in at least two | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
restaurants, one in the 10th arrondissement, and there were also | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
two explosions apparently caused by grenades in a bar near the Stade de | :01:25. | :01:26. | |
France, in the north of the city, where France was playing Germany | :01:27. | :01:30. | |
at football. But there are also reports that | :01:31. | :01:31. | |
there are hostages In the last few minutes David | :01:32. | :01:38. | |
Cameron has said, thoughts and prayers are with the French people, | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
we will do whatever we can to help. We will be looking at this | :01:43. | :01:49. | |
throughout the programme. We go over to Lucy Williamson, in Paris, first | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
of all, we are in the middle of all of this. There is reports of further | :01:54. | :02:00. | |
incidents at the Louvre. This situation is developing all of the | :02:01. | :02:03. | |
time, we now have confirmation we think of reports, we believe there | :02:04. | :02:12. | |
are fresh attacks taking place very recently in the last few minutes | :02:13. | :02:19. | |
tonight. As yet, we have no arrests, indeed, no shootings towards whoever | :02:20. | :02:25. | |
it was who cause the attacks. We certainly think the attackers are | :02:26. | :02:28. | |
still at large in Paris, no reports that they have been apprehended by | :02:29. | :02:32. | |
the police, and the security forces, as well as looking for those people, | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
are also trying to manage the hostage crisis that has unfolded at | :02:38. | :02:40. | |
a concert hall in the north-east of the city. We understand it is a jazz | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
concert Hall, packed on a Friday night, there is talk of 100 | :02:46. | :02:53. | |
hostages. From what you know, who has been deployed? Local police? Who | :02:54. | :02:59. | |
else? CRS That is the information we are not getting clarity on, the | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
police are tight-lipped about what is happening. But we are getting | :03:05. | :03:08. | |
these reports that there may be 100 people held inside, we are also | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
getting reports, unconfirmed, that there may be 35 or 40 people killed | :03:15. | :03:19. | |
in the attack on the concert hall. One witness, who was inside the | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
hall, she managed to escape, she spoke with local media confirming | :03:24. | :03:26. | |
she had seen an attacker shoots someone in front of her, she managed | :03:27. | :03:32. | |
to get out, apparently, before becoming part of the situation. Many | :03:33. | :03:38. | |
resources, a lot of focus, put on trying to resolve that situation. | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
Also, in terms of what is being used, we hear reports of grenades | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
and Kalashnikovs. Coming from eyewitnesses, yet to be confirmed, | :03:49. | :03:52. | |
but we have reports that the gunmen who attacked the Asian restaurant, | :03:53. | :03:57. | |
the first reports we had, may have used a semiautomatic weapon. To | :03:58. | :04:01. | |
attack the customers. Another witness, inside the national | :04:02. | :04:06. | |
stadium, told local media that he believed there was two or three | :04:07. | :04:09. | |
grenades set off, and at least one person had been killed. This is a | :04:10. | :04:13. | |
picture changing all of the time, the number of dead seems too has | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
risen, is rising rapidly, as we go through the night. Francois Hollande | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
was at the friendly match, between Germany and France, he was brought | :04:23. | :04:28. | |
back. Has he said anything yet? He has gone into a crisis meeting with | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
the interior minister and the Prime Minister, to try to work out a | :04:33. | :04:34. | |
strategy to get control of the situation. If these latest reports | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
are true and the new attacks have taken place, as reports say they are | :04:40. | :04:43. | |
doing, then it would be multiple attacks, in Paris, within an hour or | :04:44. | :04:48. | |
two of each other, mostly in the centre, in some of the most famous | :04:49. | :04:53. | |
spots in the capital. Six attacks, maybe five attacks, taking place | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
tonight. That is yet to be confirmed. If reports are to be | :04:58. | :05:01. | |
believed, this could be an incredibly complicated, one of the | :05:02. | :05:04. | |
most widespread attacks that Paris has ever seen. Ten months ago, | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
Charlie Hebdo, no link, as far as anybody could ascertain, to Isis, | :05:10. | :05:14. | |
does anybody yet believe that this is an attack led by Isis? At the | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
moment very little is being said about the motives of the attackers | :05:20. | :05:22. | |
but of course, the nature of the attacks is going to have everybody | :05:23. | :05:26. | |
thinking about parallels, about bringing back the memories of the | :05:27. | :05:30. | |
Charlie Hebdo attack, the hostage situation, the gunmen entering the | :05:31. | :05:34. | |
building, in central Paris. The shocking nature of the attacks | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
themselves. There has been a lot of talk recently about France's role in | :05:39. | :05:43. | |
the conflict in Syria and Iraq. France is worried about people | :05:44. | :05:46. | |
coming back to France from those conflicts and causing these kind of | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
problems at homes. -- at home. That is going to be one of the primary | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
areas of investigation, as police go forward. Thank you very much. | :05:56. | :06:04. | |
What sense are you getting from the picture? Since the attack in | :06:05. | :06:10. | |
Mumbai, people in other major world cities have feared this scenario | :06:11. | :06:13. | |
that we are now seeing unfolding in Paris tonight. Multiple terrorists, | :06:14. | :06:21. | |
sowing death in different parts of a city, bringing complete paralysis, | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
of course, many misleading reports, panic, all of these things. A | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
massive effect across the city. The British have trained, I have been | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
aware of certain aspects of this in the last couple of years, training | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
and preparation. The French have trained this kind of contingency, | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
especially since Charlie Hebdo. Now we see it unfolding, I think that we | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
can assume that some of these early death tolls will be on the low side. | :06:47. | :06:51. | |
We hear that at the theatre but we have also seen pictures on social | :06:52. | :06:54. | |
media of multiple courses in other places. It is a truly dreadful | :06:55. | :07:00. | |
situation. The other thing, of course, the terrorists, by going for | :07:01. | :07:06. | |
a major world city, they are seizing opportunities like the football | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
match between France and Germany, going on at the Stade de France, and | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
we can see footage of audio where we can see the first bomb going outside | :07:16. | :07:17. | |
the stadium. The reports from the Stade de France | :07:18. | :07:30. | |
in particular suggest a couple of bombs outside initially but later | :07:31. | :07:33. | |
reports suggest people throwing hand grenades inside of the stadium, and | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
fans going down onto the pitch to try to escape them. Chaos there, at | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
a major international sporting fixture, president Francois Hollande | :07:43. | :07:49. | |
was at the fixture and was taken away, then we have the shooting | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
incidents come using Kalashnikovs, a hallmark of the Charlie Hebdo and | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
Mumbai style attack, and then the hostage situation, at the theatre, | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
where, anything up to 100 people main lb taken. With multiple gunmen. | :08:02. | :08:08. | |
We are hearing that people, resumes, have been told to stay in doors and | :08:09. | :08:13. | |
stay at home. -- hearing that people, Parisiens. That's jazz club, | :08:14. | :08:20. | |
the movement of the Pompidou Centre and Les Halles Shopping Mall and the | :08:21. | :08:27. | |
Louvre. Looking at this, several possible interpretations, one is | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
that the gunmen, as also happened in Mumbai and Charlie Hebdo, were | :08:33. | :08:36. | |
moving around, and shooting people in different places. Clearly there | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
was more than their work, there were multiple gunmen. It may there was | :08:41. | :08:46. | |
two distinct waves. Once the theatre was surrounded, with some gunmen | :08:47. | :08:51. | |
inside it, follow one incidents seem to have occurred, at Les Halles | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
Shopping Mall and other places, which suggests there was a | :08:56. | :08:58. | |
deliberate second wave to the attack. We will come back to you | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
later, as soon as we get more intelligence on that. Joining me | :09:04. | :09:05. | |
now. Nabila Ramdani, a French Algerian | :09:06. | :09:12. | |
journalist who specialises in terrorism, Nadhim | :09:13. | :09:13. | |
Zahawi, the Conservative MP who sits on the foreign affairs select | :09:14. | :09:16. | |
committee, and the Syria expert and war correspondent Janine Di | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
Giovanni, I was at that restaurant last week, | :09:21. | :09:34. | |
Petit Cambodge, in the 11th, one of the attack sites, apparently. A lot | :09:35. | :09:41. | |
of young people would go there on a Friday night, outdoor seating, the | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
weather has been nice. It is shocking and horrible but in a | :09:46. | :09:48. | |
sense, I think that the people of Paris have been geared up for this | :09:49. | :09:53. | |
since January, since Charlie Hebdo. You think there has been an air of | :09:54. | :09:59. | |
tension? Definitely, and also, a lot of vigilance, the country has been | :10:00. | :10:04. | |
on high alert. All of the major rail stations, Metros, you see armed | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
police, all of the time. There has been much more a sense of people | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
taking care of wheel caution. And again, France's role against Isis. | :10:16. | :10:29. | |
France has the least effective record on integration of their | :10:30. | :10:37. | |
people. Do you see this daily, the lack of integration? Alienation? | :10:38. | :10:52. | |
Absolutely. Immigrants feel disenfranchised, they live only on | :10:53. | :10:58. | |
the outskirts of Harry, -- Paris. That is the case of the brothers in | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
the Charlie Hebdo attack. This is your area, your area of expertise. | :11:03. | :11:09. | |
As the story started, initially, one might have thought it could have | :11:10. | :11:12. | |
been the settling of scores between gangs, rivalry. Happens quite often | :11:13. | :11:21. | |
in the South of France, big cities like Marseille, drug gangs, less so | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
in Paris, it must be said. But as the death toll kept rising, and | :11:27. | :11:33. | |
indeed, we kept learning more, this is multiple attacks across Paris, | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
which is a small village in comparison with London, all | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
locations will be close by. They are inevitable. This has all the | :11:42. | :11:43. | |
hallmarks of a major terrorist attack. Long planned. Kalashnikov | :11:44. | :11:50. | |
wielding gunman, bomb at motions involving grenades, hostagetaking | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
situations, corpses strewn on the streets of Paris, ambulances and | :11:57. | :12:03. | |
fire engines. What is particularly horrific about the situation, the | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
people involved... The criminals involved... They seem to have gone | :12:09. | :12:13. | |
after soft targets, talking about targeting people who are out on a | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
Friday night, relaxed, restaurants, concert halls. More information, the | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
police are now saying, 100 hostages are inside the concert hall, what | :12:23. | :12:30. | |
you know about Bataclan? Famous jazz club, would have been packed. Mainly | :12:31. | :12:35. | |
frequented by young people, very cheap to get a ticket... Very | :12:36. | :12:42. | |
attractive place, not only for residents of Paris but for students | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
visiting, tourists as well. It would be, dare I say, the perfect target | :12:48. | :12:54. | |
for a major incident. In terms of preparation, since Charlie Hebdo, | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
and plans and cordon nation, we know that... -- and plans and | :13:00. | :13:05. | |
coordination. More evidence of police at stations. How do you think | :13:06. | :13:10. | |
there has been an idea of combating terror since Charlie Hebdo? Has | :13:11. | :13:16. | |
there been a big change of plans? There has been, since Charlie Hebdo, | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
no doubt that France has been on its highest alert ever. Not least of all | :13:22. | :13:27. | |
because it has been struck in the heart of the capital city. It is a | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
western capital city as well. France is also involved in major conflict | :13:34. | :13:38. | |
zones abroad, Francois Hollande may be a socialist at home, but he is a | :13:39. | :13:43. | |
hawk when it comes to foreign policy. That makes France a possible | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
target for revenge attacks stop what we will pause, because Barack Obama | :13:49. | :13:50. | |
has just been speaking: Once again, we have seen an | :13:51. | :13:58. | |
outrageous attempt to terrorise innocent civilians. This is an | :13:59. | :14:04. | |
attack not just an Paris, it is an attack not just an the people of | :14:05. | :14:09. | |
France, but this is an attack on all of humanity and the universal values | :14:10. | :14:20. | |
that we share. We stand prepared to provide whatever assistance is | :14:21. | :14:22. | |
needed by the people of France and the government, to respond. Barack | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
Obama speaking a few moments ago. What do you make of this? I echo | :14:28. | :14:33. | |
what David Cameron has said, thoughts and prayers must be with | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
the victims and those that have been held hostage. We must stand united | :14:38. | :14:41. | |
against this evil, David Cameron is right to say that we will do | :14:42. | :14:44. | |
everything we can to help in any way that we can. There is coordination | :14:45. | :14:50. | |
across Europe, an anti-terrorism, we were successful a few weeks ago, | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
with the arrests in Italy, if you remember. This is a spectacular... | :14:56. | :15:01. | |
In terms of planning and preparation and the failure to even get a wind | :15:02. | :15:05. | |
of this? ! It feels horrific, bloodcurdling. These people have got | :15:06. | :15:11. | |
to get lucky only once... Police forces have got to get lucky every | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
single day. We have a bill before Parliament to help police and | :15:16. | :15:19. | |
agencies track these people electronically, it is important | :15:20. | :15:23. | |
that, fiercely, we get the details of this, we understand what has | :15:24. | :15:27. | |
happened. Clearly, what happened, in the Sinai, in Egypt, with the | :15:28. | :15:32. | |
Russian airliner... There seems to be a North African connection, | :15:33. | :15:37. | |
possibly. Early days, but it is important that we work together and | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
cordon eight. David Cameron is right to say that we will do everything we | :15:42. | :15:45. | |
can to help. We have just heard that the French president has said that | :15:46. | :15:49. | |
this is a terrorist attack on France without precedent. | :15:50. | :15:56. | |
How do you deal with the threat? We have to get lucky every day. Theresa | :15:57. | :16:05. | |
May has talked about the number of incidents we have thwarted. Mark | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
wants to come in. Well, a key aspect of this, as it was in Charlie Hebdo, | :16:12. | :16:16. | |
was how do you bring military-style firearms into a city like Paris or | :16:17. | :16:22. | |
indeed London? I had a conversation with a senior counter-terrorist | :16:23. | :16:25. | |
figure in the UK after the Charlie Hebdo thing, saying what is to stop | :16:26. | :16:29. | |
that happening here? He expressed confidence that the number of | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
firearms, a couple of hundred that is in circulation with the | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
underworld as one understood but in France the situation was different. | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
Clearly tonight, something terrible has happened in terms of the | :16:43. | :16:45. | |
quantity of weapons and explosives that somebody has managed to get | :16:46. | :16:50. | |
into that city. We will of course come back to events in Paris | :16:51. | :16:52. | |
tonight, but to other news now. According to a US official, | :16:53. | :16:55. | |
one British drone and two American ones worked together intimately | :16:56. | :16:57. | |
in the operation that targeted Mohammad Emwazi, who appeared | :16:58. | :17:00. | |
in Isis execution videos. David Cameron called the attack | :17:01. | :17:02. | |
on the torturer known as Jihadi John in a car in the Northern Syrian town | :17:03. | :17:04. | |
of Raqqa as "a strike at Emwazi apparently killed seven | :17:05. | :17:08. | |
hostages, including British aid workers | :17:09. | :17:10. | |
David Haines and Alan Henning. But perhaps | :17:11. | :17:13. | |
the more significant story this week, in terms of the war on Islamic | :17:14. | :17:15. | |
State, has been the sustained gains being made against their territory - | :17:16. | :17:18. | |
not least today's reclaiming of So which is the better guide | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
to how this war might be won? Here's our | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
diplomatic editor Mark Urban. The intelligence gathering operation | :17:29. | :17:34. | |
to find and target Mohammed Emwazi took months | :17:35. | :17:36. | |
and considerable resources. Last night, three different drones, | :17:37. | :17:40. | |
one British, and two American, were tracking him before an American | :17:41. | :17:45. | |
drone launched a missile into a car. And let us never forget he | :17:46. | :17:51. | |
killed many, many Muslims too. And he was intent | :17:52. | :18:00. | |
on murdering many more people. Emwazi had been the ring master | :18:01. | :18:04. | |
for the televised murder of James Foley, Steven Sotloff, David Haines, | :18:05. | :18:11. | |
Alan Henning and Peter Kassig. Some | :18:12. | :18:17. | |
of the freed hostages also reported But tonight, | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
family members didn't give in. Just sad, and I think we have to be | :18:22. | :18:29. | |
careful, as an American media, not He's a sad individual, | :18:30. | :18:37. | |
filled with hate for us. The car believed to be carrying | :18:38. | :18:48. | |
Mohammed Emwazi was hit right in the middle of Raqqa, | :18:49. | :18:54. | |
capital of the self-proclaimed Caliphate, and just yards | :18:55. | :18:57. | |
from the clock tower where IS staged There is something bigger going | :18:58. | :19:00. | |
on here though. Islamic State is on the defensive | :19:01. | :19:11. | |
in several different places Clearly Isis at the moment is | :19:12. | :19:14. | |
in a situation where it is facing battles on lots of different fronts, | :19:15. | :19:20. | |
but if we look at what is happening in Sinjar, my understanding is that | :19:21. | :19:25. | |
hasn't completely severed If we look | :19:26. | :19:28. | |
at the Russians hitting them in some places, it is not the sort | :19:29. | :19:34. | |
of overwhelming push we are seeing. What we are seeing is | :19:35. | :19:37. | |
a situation where they are dealing with pressure on multiple fronts, | :19:38. | :19:40. | |
but I don't think we can say it is On Sinjar, | :19:41. | :19:43. | |
Kurdish troops supported by British Special Forces, and more than 250 | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
air strikes in the past month, have driven back IS, cutting the group's | :19:49. | :19:54. | |
key route between Raqqa and Mosul. Unfortunately the process for the | :19:55. | :19:59. | |
liberation of Mosul was delayed. Therefore, we were obliged | :20:00. | :20:05. | |
in order to make sure that step by step we would liberate | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
the areas which are important. Of course, the victory that was | :20:10. | :20:15. | |
achieved in Sinjar is very important, it is significant, | :20:16. | :20:17. | |
this is our response, and it is our revenge on the Isis and the | :20:18. | :20:20. | |
crimes they committed last year. The atrocities that were committed | :20:21. | :20:23. | |
by the Isis terrorists, and the crimes that were committed | :20:24. | :20:26. | |
amount to genocide. Therefore we are very pleased | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
today Sinjar was liberated. Across the border, a co-ordinated | :20:31. | :20:35. | |
push by the Syrian democratic forces, Kurdish-led but with | :20:36. | :20:42. | |
American special operators, have cleared 500 square kilometres of | :20:43. | :20:45. | |
Islamic State fighters in the past few weeks, and then over further | :20:46. | :20:48. | |
west, the Syrian Army with Iranian ground support and Russian backing | :20:49. | :20:51. | |
from the air, has broken the IS It all adds up to | :20:52. | :20:55. | |
significant pressure. Nobody thinks this week's | :20:56. | :21:10. | |
blows mark the end of IS. It's shown itself a fierce | :21:11. | :21:12. | |
and resilient adversary, but it's thought to have lost | :21:13. | :21:16. | |
its chief propagandist and is under pressure on multiple fronts now, | :21:17. | :21:19. | |
from the air and on the ground. The co-ordinateded attacks in Paris, | :21:20. | :21:39. | |
we have just heard that Francois Hollande has called a state of | :21:40. | :21:43. | |
emergency in France, and closed the French border. I mean, this is | :21:44. | :21:48. | |
absolutely huge, I mean clearly, either the intelligence is that | :21:49. | :21:51. | |
there is more to come, or it is stop people escaping. I think if we saw | :21:52. | :21:56. | |
what happened after the Charlie Hebdo events in Jan, there was a | :21:57. | :22:00. | |
series of event that went foreign a couple of days as people tried to | :22:01. | :22:04. | |
track down those responsible. If this is a bigger and more complex at | :22:05. | :22:09. | |
a tack there could be a wider web of people. France is in the most | :22:10. | :22:14. | |
difficult situation tonight, Presidents Holland took this step of | :22:15. | :22:20. | |
standing front and sentence in the alliance, since September, the | :22:21. | :22:23. | |
country has been bombing Syria, as well as Iraq, something few other | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
European countries wanted to do. His has taken this very difficult step | :22:29. | :22:31. | |
politically, and tonight, he is in the middle of this fresh crisis. I | :22:32. | :22:38. | |
saw one unconfirmed ifficult step politically, and tonight, he is in | :22:39. | :22:40. | |
the middle of this fresh crisis. I saw one unconfirmed report of | :22:41. | :22:42. | |
someone shouting "This is for Syria." We have seen reports people | :22:43. | :22:47. | |
said this was for Syria, and we have seen reports of people shouting aloo | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
alAqabar. At this moment, I don't think can't regard those as | :22:53. | :22:59. | |
definitive. We are joined by another two guests. | :23:00. | :23:09. | |
We will soon by joined by the former deputy editor of Liberation -- | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
liberation. We no we are dealing with a substantial terrorist attack. | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
We have multiple targets struck, we have people using automatic weapons | :23:20. | :23:24. | |
and explosive devices. No arrests? We don't really know. It is an | :23:25. | :23:30. | |
unfolding situation. We have heard incidents going off all over the | :23:31. | :23:34. | |
placings, we don't know if we are dealing with five separate incidents | :23:35. | :23:37. | |
or groups who are mobile, who are making one journey to another in | :23:38. | :23:40. | |
vehicles or something else. It's a fluid situation, so we don't know | :23:41. | :23:44. | |
defintively what we are looking at, but what we know is we are looking | :23:45. | :23:49. | |
at people who have training to make explosive, training to use gun, and | :23:50. | :23:53. | |
obviously, a lot of preparation to do some sort of sub Stan shallot | :23:54. | :24:00. | |
attack like this. Let us go ever to the former deputy editor of | :24:01. | :24:03. | |
Liberation. What do you make of the announcement where you are in a | :24:04. | :24:11. | |
state of emergency? Well, it is obviously taking into account, the | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
shock the country is in, you should have seen the streets of Paris it is | :24:15. | :24:21. | |
really panic, and great anxiety. The President wanted to show that he is | :24:22. | :24:24. | |
still in charge, that the authorities are do whatever they | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
can, and that exceptional measures are taken to deal with an | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
exceptional and unprecedented situation. He announced that the | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
borders are closed, that the army has been called in reinforcement, to | :24:39. | :24:44. | |
secure the capital, so it is really a kind of war situation, that has | :24:45. | :24:48. | |
suddenly, you know, fallen on our heads. We can see that from the | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
shots we are seeing now, from outside that restaurant earlier, | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
people are being attended to in the streets, people being carried away. | :24:58. | :25:00. | |
What can you tell us, if you can tell us any more about what is | :25:01. | :25:04. | |
happening at the Bataclan concert place? There has been a lot of | :25:05. | :25:11. | |
hostages inside, people are talking about 60-80 hostages and the | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
President in his statement said that the situation was still under way, | :25:16. | :25:22. | |
and that assault was being given by the police, the elite forces of the | :25:23. | :25:26. | |
police have been called in, and there is a lot of shooting, so the | :25:27. | :25:31. | |
situation, the situationing is still ongoing, and probably the number of | :25:32. | :25:34. | |
dead will be much higher than it is already. We can see now what | :25:35. | :25:40. | |
happened. We can see scenes from inside Stade de France where there | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
are recorded images of people moving on to the pitch know not knowing | :25:45. | :25:49. | |
what would happen. The players, a the first explosion went off and we | :25:50. | :25:52. | |
heard reports that there were grenades thrown inside the stadium. | :25:53. | :25:55. | |
Can you tell us any more about that? No, it doesn't seem to have been | :25:56. | :26:02. | |
taking place inside the stadium, because the commentators, sports | :26:03. | :26:05. | |
commentators all telling us that the football match went on as if nothing | :26:06. | :26:10. | |
has happened, and people didn't react to the explosions thinking it | :26:11. | :26:15. | |
was just celebrations or atmosphere. But the thing about the staid de | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
France, people are probably still there and people won't want to get | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
on the trains back in to Paris because they don't know about the | :26:23. | :26:29. | |
trains either. Absolutely. Public transport will be massively watched | :26:30. | :26:32. | |
by French police. It has to be said that the French Government seems to, | :26:33. | :26:36. | |
you know, take to realise the absolute scale of this tragedy, not | :26:37. | :26:41. | |
only through its announcement, earlier we heard the French | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
President talking about multiple scenes of violence and then it went | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
to him describing the attacks as unprecedented attacks and then | :26:50. | :26:52. | |
declaring a state of emergency, and then going as far as mobilising the | :26:53. | :26:59. | |
army, so, in its wordings, but in its actions he is talking to his | :27:00. | :27:05. | |
close you know, advisers, and indeed his holding the equivalent of what | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
would be a Cobra meeting in transto catch the terrorists at an early | :27:11. | :27:15. | |
stage. We can go to a telephone call with Jonathan Hill who saw one of | :27:16. | :27:19. | |
the gunmen. What did you see and where are you? Currently the signal | :27:20. | :27:24. | |
is not great. I am on the Metro trying to get away from the area. I | :27:25. | :27:36. | |
was coming out of the Metro station, collecting cash from an ATM, 40, 50 | :27:37. | :27:42. | |
yards away myself and two other friends heard two distinctive shots. | :27:43. | :27:48. | |
There was a guy... Very largely built. In the middle of the street, | :27:49. | :27:58. | |
shouting Allez, to get people in the restaurants. | :27:59. | :28:03. | |
With that... I am afraid the signal is very bad on the Metro so we have | :28:04. | :28:12. | |
to leave him but we can go to a recording of President Hollande. | :28:13. | :28:17. | |
TRANSLATION: My dear country Americas as I speak terrorist | :28:18. | :28:20. | |
attacks on an unprecedented scale are taking place in the Paris | :28:21. | :28:25. | |
region. There are several dozen dead, lots more wounded. It is | :28:26. | :28:29. | |
horrific. We have on my orders mobilised all the forces we can | :28:30. | :28:33. | |
muster in order to neutralise the terrorist threat, and to secure all | :28:34. | :28:38. | |
the affected areas. I have asked for military reinforcements, they too | :28:39. | :28:42. | |
are in the Paris area to make sure no new attack can take place. | :28:43. | :28:50. | |
Tell me though, you have a particular view of how Paris and the | :28:51. | :28:54. | |
French regard security? Well, its has to be said, mine it is evident | :28:55. | :28:58. | |
that France has massive security failure as we have seen with the | :28:59. | :29:02. | |
Charlie Hebdo incident. The Charlie Hebdo offices were a clear target. | :29:03. | :29:07. | |
They had been targeted by firebombs before, they clearly were supposed | :29:08. | :29:10. | |
to be under police security. It turned out they weren't. After the | :29:11. | :29:14. | |
attacks happened, we have seen police officers standing up on bike, | :29:15. | :29:19. | |
with no arms, and that is how the police reacted to a terrorist attack | :29:20. | :29:23. | |
in central Paris. We don't have much time here, but I want to ask you | :29:24. | :29:26. | |
what you think will be the reaction of other European countries, | :29:27. | :29:30. | |
particularly ones that are leading the battle against Isis. You can see | :29:31. | :29:34. | |
a ratcheting up of security across the continent. People have been | :29:35. | :29:37. | |
worried about this sort of at tack for some time. Your can look far | :29:38. | :29:43. | |
back as 2010 when people worried about a Mumbai-style attack. Now we | :29:44. | :29:46. | |
have seen it happening after the Charlie Hebdo attack, you saw | :29:47. | :29:50. | |
European forces looking at this could happen to them and training | :29:51. | :29:53. | |
for it, so you will see that as well. I think on the Continent in | :29:54. | :29:57. | |
particular, you will start to see people really starting... Because we | :29:58. | :30:02. | |
have open borders but tonight France has closed its borders as much as it | :30:03. | :30:07. | |
can. It has had to close its borders in response to this situation. We | :30:08. | :30:11. | |
can see the situation earlier in year in Belgium, where a plot, a | :30:12. | :30:15. | |
network that looked like it might have been trying to do something | :30:16. | :30:21. | |
similar was disrupted. We have seen other networks happening round the | :30:22. | :30:23. | |
Continent that going in this direction, when you see an incident | :30:24. | :30:27. | |
like this you will see others who will be inspired and try to stand on | :30:28. | :30:31. | |
the shoulders of giants and launch an attack on their own. What is the | :30:32. | :30:35. | |
latest Mark? Simply that the scale of this is immense, as you say, | :30:36. | :30:39. | |
France effectively is locked down now. I think the assessment is still | :30:40. | :30:47. | |
going on. I wouldn't be surprised in that French Government meeting if | :30:48. | :30:51. | |
security chiefs can't give Francois Hollande straight answers how many | :30:52. | :30:54. | |
were there, how many might still be at large on the streets. So, as we | :30:55. | :30:58. | |
lever you tonight, we are still in the middle of a situation in Paris, | :30:59. | :31:03. | |
there are more than 100 hostages in a jazz club, and also more than 40 | :31:04. | :31:07. | |
people dead apparently, perhaps at the jazz club and more at the | :31:08. | :31:13. | |
restaurant. Francois Hollande has called a state of merge, is, the | :31:14. | :31:17. | |
borders are closed and in Paris the army are being deployed. People are | :31:18. | :31:21. | |
being told to stay at home. There is no identity, no notion of the | :31:22. | :31:24. | |
identity of the attackers or where they might strike necks. More on the | :31:25. | :31:28. | |
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