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Thank you very much indeed, Liverpool.
He can still attract a big crowd - Jeremy Corbyn rallies his troops
But in Westminster, the chatter has been very different.
They're not talking about it in public, but behind the scenes
Labour's warring factions have been trying to answer a vital question -
can the MPs unilaterally dump Corbyn and have their own leader
Rebel Labour MPs have been thinking about their options
should Jeremy Corbyn win the Labour leadership again in September.
Newsnight has learnt that MPs on both sides have been in touch
with parliamentary officials to discuss the mechanics
of a declaration of independence at Westminster from
The veteran MP Greville Janner may have died last year,
but allegations of child sexual exploitation have not gone away.
His family are determined to defend him.
Dad is dead, and so there's not the possibility of the other side
It's the people making the accusations' word,
We're in the food queues in Venezuela, where something
It's hard not to view the goings on in the Labour Party this summer
without thinking that this is more than a fleeting domestic row.
Can it carry on into next summer too?
Well, it's been said that the two wings of the party are like a couple
who want a divorce, but can't bring themselves to separate,
because neither can afford to move out.
Publicly of course, no-one in Labour yet wants to talk about a split.
But it turns out there have been conversations
about what could happen if Mr Corbyn wins again.
What the implications might be of MPs detaching themselves
Is this a solution, or an aggravation
Nick Watt has been looking at the rebel MPs options.
It is hard lay summer of -- hardly a summer of love in the Labour Party.
Jeremy Corbyn has lost the confidence of his MPs, but tonight
thousands of supporters turned out for him in Liverpool. His
challenger, Owen Smith, is putting up a fight. But thoughts are turning
to life under a rejuvenated Jeremy Corbyn. A full split is being
discussed on the fringes of the party, by the two historic splits in
the Labour Party have left a painful legacy. For the moment, a full split
is seen as a step too far. This unhappiness with Jeremy and people
are worried about the general election, but I don't see any
inclination for a split. I don't hear colleagues talking about it. I
don't think it will happen. I think it is a media fixation. With a full
split unlikely, some MPs are exploring other avenues. Some of
Jeremy Corbyn's Labour opponents have been dusting down the
Parliamentary rule books to see if they could be called the opposition
if they can command greater support at Westminster. We understand both
sides from Labour's war have been in touch with Parliamentary officials
to see whether this is a realistic prospect. The rules it would appear
are somewhat opaque. If a large breakaway group wanted to go to the
speaker and claim to be the opposition, without breaking away
officially from the Labour Party, that could place the Speaker in a
difficult position. That in effect he would be making a judgment as to
whether the Labour Party continued in its current form. In the shadows
some Labour figures are looking at clipping Jeremy Corbyn's wings, by
reviving the tradition of holding elections to the Shadow Cabinet.
Labour MPs who are opposed to him would have the first say on changing
the rules. If they were voting in Shadow Cabinet elections I imagine
they would choose members they saw as more moderate and so you would
have a party leader from one faction of the party and a Shadow Cabinet
representing an alternative point of view. It is hard to see that they
would be electing many Jeremy Corbyn supporters. That would change
things. Reviving Shadow Cabinet elections would involve changing
party rules, I would have to be approved by the national executive
committee and the Labour Party conference. The most likely outcome
may be a continuing stand off between Labour's opposing factions.
We have spoke on the senior figures opposed to Jeremy Corbyn who say
their best hope is for Theresa May to go back on her word and call an
early general election to gain a mandate for the EU renegotiate
shuns. Who would have thought that Labour MPs would look to a Tory
Prime Minister to challenge their leader for them. Nick is with me.
Let us focus on the conversations with The Speaker's office. If they
concluded that can't work? It is interesting that the distrust is so
great that the two factions have been holding separate informal
meetings. What this shows about the Corbyn camp is they're so worried
about their control of party, they're saying could this happen sta
message they're getting is it is a matter in the hands of the Speaker
the anti-Corbyn people say can we pull this off, because they're
determined to marginalise Jeremy Corbyn. It comes down on the side of
he or she who holds the title deeds of Labour Party, that will be Jeremy
Corbyn and that explains why we are moving away from splits and
breakaways. 75% of MPs said they didn't have confidence in Jeremy
Corbyn. How many of them are serious enough to up the ante, as opposed we
don't have confidence in him, but if the party want him we will stick
with him. How many of those are there? That 80% figure looks good on
Pape e but one of Jeremy Corbyn's opponents said it is a flimsy
figure. This person said 60 who said they had no confidence in Jeremy
Corbyn will rediscover their confidence if he is elected leader
and you will have a functioning front bench. 30 will hunker down and
MPs. And there may be a core group hostile, that was the phrase in the
internal Jeremy Corbyn office group and this person said s as for us, we
will be progressively picked off with deselections. This is why you
came down this idea of stand off. What does that mean? Perhaps it mean
another Tory government. What can it mean you have a disagreement between
the leader and the bulk of his or her own MPs. It may see our
favourite verb come back, that is unresignations, those who resigned
will unresign and come back. Difficult for senior people to do
that. Because we can play back what they said on these programmes. So
that is the first thing. I think the second thing that will happen is the
shadow, Shadow Cabinet. It is difficult to revive the rules and
you may have a parallel op ocean where senior figures will stand up
and say their own things. But some of those most ardent opponents of
Jeremy Corbyn are saying weirdly their best hope is in Theresa May
finding herself having to go back on her word and call a general election
if she runs into difficulties over an EU mandate, because they say
Jeremy Corbyn would struggle to do well there and then hopefully that
would be their chance. But by then, you may have a very different Labour
Party and many more MPs from the left. Thank you.
The dead can't defend themselves, but their families can.
And the family of the late Greville Janner, the long serving
Labour MP for Leicester West and later a peer, are certainly
fighting back against the numerous allegations that he sexually
He died last year, after several years with dementia, having never
He had been questioned in 1991, and there had been subsequent
investigations into him, but without any action taken.
Then last year, in the post-Saville era, his case shot to the fore.
The Director of Public Prosecutions for England and Wales said
that she thought there had been enough evidence in the past
Despite her reservations and despite his illness,
Janner made a brief, confused appearance in court
However, the case against Greville Janner is down
to be one topic of the huge Independent Inquiry
into Child Sexual Abuse, under Justice Lowell Goddard.
And that has annoyed the Janner family.
To them he was a loving father who tried to help, not
I sat down with Lord Janner's daughter Marion this
afternoon, at her - and what had been his - home.
I asked how aware of the allegation he was in the year before he died.
Completely unaware, because he didn't have the cognitive
understanding to grasp what was going on.
So in fact, we had a news blackout in the house,
so he had absolutely no idea - which was one of the
The family have felt absolutely, 100% behind him all the way.
You were personally obviously very loyal, you looked
I wonder whether, at any point in that, you've
had your own doubts or questions, or whether you have thought
at any stage, did he abuse children in his past?
No, no, absolutely not, because we have the evidence
We know, so it's not a sort of blind loyalty
because he was a wonderful dad, it just wasn't like that.
It's the facts, we have had evidence, which is
There are investigative journalists who have done some
fantastic discovery work, and we know that he cannot have
Let's focus on one case, which is actually the one, I think,
in which most of the evidence has been accumulated and talked about.
It's an interesting one, because obviously the facts
Your father befriended the boy, he was a teenager,
he was in a children's home and he saw quite a lot
of your father, and your father wrote to him, love Greville letters,
so there's no question about the relationship.
And then this boy said it was a sexual relationship.
Do, at the very least, you ever think to yourself,
was that a bit weird, that relationship?
It's not strange for somebody of dad's generation or for our family.
My grandparents, dad's parents, had an open house during the war,
so anyone could come and stay with them.
We were a family who has a family of sort of history of rescuing
people, and dad was fired up with a sense of social justice,
and he was just really committed to helping people whose lives
And because we have such a loving family, I think dad really fell
for people who didn't have a family at all,
and were stuck in a children's home, so it seemed, at the
Looking back you think, that was naive, risky,
courageous, but at the time it just seemed like the right thing to do.
It seemed absolutely the right thing to do.
One of the facts, and I think it's disputed, is whether or not your
father spent the night alone with this chap over some periods.
He claims it was at the Holiday Inn in Leicester, with your father,
The Scottish case has been looked at, hasn't it?
Are you convinced there were no points at which your father
actually spent the night with this complainant?
I've absolutely no idea, but if he did, it would have been
Obviously, we now regret that he put himself in a position
where he was open to accusation, but it was done out
What do you think of the process now?
We've got a country that has obviously become greatly more
concerned about these issues than it used to be.
Justice Lowell Goddard is leading an inquiry into child abuse,
and your father is one stream of this inquiry.
It's an outrage, it's an absolute outrage.
The other 12 strands are all institutions,
big institutions - the NHS, the church -
and there's one strand on one individual who was never convicted,
and at the time, at this round of accusations,
had severe dementia so couldn't defend himself, and is now dead.
It doesn't contain within it the possibility of justice.
It goes against everything that the British believe in.
There's not the possibility of the other side of
It's the people making the accusations' word,
against a corpse, which doesn't work.
It cannot be just, it cannot be right.
The numbers and the persistence of cases and chatter,
It's been well described by other people who've been
proved false accusations, and they've come out the other end
That actually, if you're in a situation where you can make
such a serious allegation about someone, and be
I mean, frankly you don't have a lot to lose.
Justice Lowell Goddard is presumably an intelligent and bright person,
and a bit worldwide and who will make judgments about the evidence
and isn't just going to hear it all in a completely naive way
and just write it down and say, here's what happened.
Presumably this is now the first time someone is going, in public,
to sit down and pronounce in a kind of objective way, listening to all
How can it be all sides of the argument, with dad dead?
And also, the individuals can't be cross-examined, because
People are being automatically believed, so anyone can
come forward and say, this person did this to me,
this person did that to me, or Greville Janner did this to me,
and will be automatically believed, so the process is grotesque
Marion Janner, thank you very much
In response to that interview today lawyers for Lord Janner's alleged
victim says they cannot have been waiting years for justice.
You don't have to go back far to remember Hugo Chavez's Venezuela
being hailed as a beacon of socialist success -
a country that had rejected western imposed neo-liberalism and carved
Well, it's not a beacon of anything at the moment.
It has gone badly wrong in the post-Chavez years,
and they are not keen on people
In essence, when oil prices fell, the money ran out.
BBC reporter Vladimir Hernandez grew up in Venezuela and has been
there with film-maker Greg Brosnan, looking at what that means
This is what a trip to the supermarket looks like in Venezuela.
A lot of people have come up to us and told us how angry they are,
because they've been here for over 12 hours and they've not been able
This man in blue warns us, they've seen you.
And then we're surrounded by soldiers.
Welcome to my country, Venezuela, a country of food queues
that the government doesn't want us filming, a country
As soon as we get out the car, people have started shouting
and telling us that they're hungry, really.
They told me they have been protesting for three days
Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro faces an economic crisis unlike any
The socialist experiment his predecessor, Hugo Chavez,
began 17 years ago is failing, triggering massive food
Maduro inherited Chavez's socialist experiment,
but not the high oil prices that financed his public spending.
This man is blind and relies on government food aid.
This woman is feeding her baby with sugared water.
She said she can't produce breastmilk, she's too malnourished.
She was eating three times a day when she took this picture a year
ago. There is some food on sale, but most
people can't afford to buy it. Venezuela has the highest inflation
in the world and it's hitting the poor hardest. The government has
made some staples like flour and rice available at pre-inflation
prices, but there's not enough to go around. That is the supermarket, and
those queues of people, who have been there since the early hours,
been told there is flour today. These cues literally go round all of
the building, going downstairs into the basement, and then come up again
until they are finally able to get into the supermarket, hoping to get
flour. President Maduro took over when the long serving President Hugo
Chavez died three years ago to stop his popularity has plunged, as many
Venezuelans claimed their hunger on his economic mismanagement. The
government says it's not to blame, but the victim of an economic war,
waged by speculators and foreign powers intent on regime change in
Venezuela. This is where the Venezuelan
government shows its military strength, with missile launchers,
this is a country that rises, but here they are trying to show they
are still strong. President Maduro's official term
lasts until 2019. A movement is pushing for a referendum and to
remove him from office early. For now, Venezuelans will have to wait
in line. Vladimir Hernandez reporting,
and he was working with There's a longer
version on the iPlayer. Look for the Our World documentary
series and you'll see You get quite a lot of perks
as a Prime Minister - the house, the cat, the opportunity to mingle
with world leaders and the chance to pretend you might
detonate a nuclear weapon. But you also get some
power to bestow honours David Cameron's farewell honours
list has been leaked, and it seems an an OBE is in store
for Samantha's stylist, and a Companion of Honour
for George Osborne. One or two useful funders
get a gong, and a few The list has aroused howls
of outrage and surprise - although it's hardly the first time
a Prime Minister's use the power The basic question is whether it's
right the PM should have some slips in a pocket
or handbag, to offer people. I'm joined by Lord Bell, Tim Bell,
who was knighted in the Thatcher resignation honours and became
a peer later on, and writer Good evening to you both. Yasmin,
you had an MBE at one stage? I did. It's one of the things I most
regret, accepting. I did return it over the Iraq war. It's so easy, I
can't describe to you how easy it is to feel incredibly, foolishly
flattered. That you will be more precious and important than the
others. And MBE as well? Yes, but even so, it's so easy, so I do
understand what it means. Did it mean a lot to you, when you got the
knighthood in that that Shell resignation, what did that mean to
you? I was extremely grateful. And very flattered, and it meant a great
deal to me, it still does. It didn't mean anything to anybody else, but
so what? What did you get it for, do you think? I got it for services to
the former Prime Minister. I worked for her for 15 years, for nothing
and I thoroughly enjoyed myself, I had a wonderful time. I met lots of
people I liked, I had a great time, I was given a night to it, I was
very proud of it, I Worrallo with pride and I will continue to do so.
I'm interested. It seemed right that she should express her gratitude in
some way. A handwritten note would be... I suppose the controversy is
whether the Prime Minister should have the power to use our honour,
our respect and bestow that upon you with a public,. Would you think of
that? It seems a bit strange, really. You were working for her as
a political ally. Yes? As an adviser, actually. Yes, I don't
think it means anything at all. It's like being given a box of
chocolates. It doesn't carry any weight whatsoever. The peerage is
slightly different, because I get a chance to speak in the legislature
and I can help pass laws and end laws, its a different concept. I was
a elected as a peer, which means have a vote in the House of Lords,
and that's another job, and I get paid for it. That's different. How
outrageous is it, do you think about the Prime Minister does have this
right? Prime ministers need to get things done, basically. This is like
billionaires getting goody bags, it's like that. Lord Bell was very
successful and had a lot of power and a lot of influence. Why did you
need this damp, this goody bag, on top of it? And it isn't personal.
Like I said, I didn't want to take it but I was enormously flattered. I
understand. It's just wrong for any political leader to use it as a gift
bag for their friends. Lord Bell? You say it was impersonal, it was
entirely personal. It was given to me in her resignation less. No me,
I'm not being personal. I just want to push you on this, Yasmin Alibai
Brown, the argument has been put this is the least corrupt way of
Prime Minister 's rewarding loyalty and being nice to friends, and if
you take away these little things they can give away then you start
getting brown envelopes. Most people who get these are incredibly
powerful and many of them are incredibly rich. They don't need
anything extra. Look, I don't know of a single care worker who is a
Dame, there isn't one. They go to certain kinds of people. I own
means, the political parties can have their own reward system, they
can take them on holidays, that's fine. We're talking about the
difference between the political parties and the nation and we need
something that doesn't have a stench bust up Lord Bal, the question is...
Stench? I am not worth anything. And I don't have fortunes of money and
everything I've got I worked for. None of it was given to me by
anybody. You can have the envy argument, but it is pointless. In
your experience, does actually motivate people? A backbench MP,
been a bit of a troublemaker in the past and then the Prime Minister
wants you to come onside and come on matey Foster explained to me how it
works? Is it explicit? I don't recognise the example you gave me.
I'm sure it can be imagined, I'm sure people can dream it up, but I'm
not aware of it. I wasn't a troublesome backbencher, I was very
much at the forefront of the campaign is, and I got rewarded for
the things I've done. I was very grateful for it. I thought it was a
very nice gesture by Mrs Thatcher and the people who approved it. It
doesn't make any difference what anybody else says, it won't make any
difference to how proud I am. That's fine, but there is a very serious
argument to be had here. People still like to think there is no
corruption in Britain. There are subtle forms of corruption. I
personally know of people, two men who played paper money and got an
MBE and then got a higher something and then got into the Lords. It was
a very systematic thing. And it worked. Now there is something wrong
here. I like them very much as individuals, but there is something
wrong, where there is this perception that things can be
bought, these things can be bought. In fairness we have known this for
quite a while going back to the 1920s. You know that you don't need
to respect Lord Bell and his honour, but if you want to you can. We need
a good, clean, honours system which isn't dependent on patronage from
the political leaders and I would go further, that not even patronage
from the Royal family. It needs to be independent, it needs to be
something that everybody feels they can get.
Lord Bell enjoy your Hon hours. I don't have the faintest, how you
create the system. We need to leave it there. Thank you both.
You know it's August by the way, not just because it's been raining,
but because we're down to a shorter duration for 30 minutes
The Government announced today that the license fee will be
extended to the iPlayer from September 1st.
We're not quite sure if the semi-mythical TV detector
vans will be able to enforce this, or if indeed they still exist.
Yes, there is a TV set at No 5. It is in the front room. And they're
watching Columbo. If you don't have a TV licence it won't take us long
to find you.
Will Labour split? Greville Janner's daughter defends her father. Plus a look at the food queues of Venezuela and Cameron's honours.
With Evan Davis.