02/08/2016 Newsnight


02/08/2016

In-depth investigation and analysis with Emily Maitlis. Topics include George Osborne's legacy, EU migrants in Corby, Turkey and the old British passport.


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Once he was the High Vis Chancellor, now he's been disappeared.

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Is the PM intending to cut George Osborne's

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We've learned that Theresa May may abandon his language of a Golden Era

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between China and the UK - will the change of tone

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If we're resetting China downwards, and we're resetting Europe

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downwards, and we're faced with the possibility of Mr Trump

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in the United States, who are we going to reset upwards?

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Just I get Coca-Cola to my face.

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And swearing at me, in the middle of the day.

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They say, "You BLEEP refugee, why are you speaking your

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A month after Brexit, the migrants of Corby

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are waiting to hear their fate, and whether they're

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And remember this token of a bygone age?

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The British passport wasn't so much something you presented

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for inspection by some grubby little border policeman,

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These days they have something smaller and flimsier

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and looking like a passbook of the Nuneaton Building Society.

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Is it time for the British passport to make a dignified comeback?

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There's sacking a man, and then there's dismantling his

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entire decade's work - and right now, it's not

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entirely clear which path Theresa May will chose.

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But the signs over the past couple of weeks suggest she was no fan

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of George Osborne or his policies in government.

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The Prime Minister has launched an industrial strategy,

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which some are reading as a reversal of many of her former colleague's

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priorities: Her instant rejection of the austerity project,

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her calculated pause over Hinckley Point, her reconfiguration

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of the Northern Powerhouse to include all UK cities.

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Osborne is rumoured to have said he was prepared to be the most

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unpopular man in Britain to get things done.

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For a while every tweet he sent out seemed to confirm that ambition

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But what if his legacy is now being used -

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by the new PM - to take economic policy in a whole new directio,

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even resetting the relationship with China?

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In office he heralded the march of the makers, but the one-time maker

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in chief is now a mere bystander, as his legacy is unceremoniously

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marched off stage. Today marks the moment when Theresa May moved on

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from Osborne economics as she summoned ministers for a new Cabinet

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committee which will set her government's overall approach on the

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economy. That rather 1970s notion of an industrial strategy is back, and

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relations with China have taken a bit of a hit, after a review was

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announced into the Hinckley know -- nuclear power plant. Downing Street

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insists the delay with Hinkley Point is to allow the new Prime Minister

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to study the details of such a mammoth project, but Newsnight

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understands that Theresa May intends, at the very least, to

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oversee a modest resetting of Britain's relations with Beijing.

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Officials speak of a tonal change, in which there will be no more talk

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of a golden era in which, as George Osborne used to say, Britain would

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act as China's best partner in the West.

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I don't think that Theresa May and Philip Hammond come from quite the

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same angle that George Osborne did on this. May, coming from a Home

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Office angle, might have a little more concerned about some of the

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human rights types of questions associated with China, and I think

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that George Osborne saw China, China's ambition to get into the

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European Union via the UK as an important part of his own strategy.

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That isn't going to happen now in the same way, so I think there is

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some rethink about what the nature of the engagement with China is. But

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former ministers have told Newsnight they are surprised that the new

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Prime Minister is willing to risk Britain's reputation as a stable

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investment destination by such an abrupt move on Hinkley Point.

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I certainly don't think we should be grovelling, should be kowtowing. We

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should treat the Chinese with respect and expect them to do the

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same here, which is broadly what has happened so far. If we're resetting

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China downwards, and we're resetting Europe downwards and web based with

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the possibility of Mr Trump in the United States, who are we going to

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reset upwards? This is a question worrying quite a lot of people,

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probably. Theresa May believes one of the key challenges for Britain

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outside the EU lies in rebalancing the economy and improving

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productivity, by revising two words rarely heard since the days of the

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coalition, industrial strategy. It is welcome Theresa May is reviving

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industrial strategy, it is something we did in the coalition, it was very

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popular with the business community, particularly people in manufacturing

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and creative industries. It gives long-term confidence to our

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industries here and it's a way by which government and business can

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work together. I was very sad that it fell into decline when the Tories

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took power, but if Mrs May wants to revive it, that's very welcome.

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George Osborne's pet project, creating a Northern Powerhouse, has

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been reconfigured as the new Cabinet committee made clear it aims to

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boost all parts of the country. There is some anxiety in the North

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of England, as to whether the new Prime Minister is as committed to it

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as George Osborne was. He had a northern seat and it was one of the

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themes he had. We will soon see how sincere they are.

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Members of the regime are bruised by the speed of change, but there is a

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crumb of comfort. One of the main brains behind George Osborne's

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Northern Powerhouse has been given a seat in the heart of Downing Street,

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drawing up the government's new industrial strategy.

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Revisionism may put a very different spin onto Osbornomics

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The long terms legacy of his work will not be fully

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But how will the reset button - if that's what it is -

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Here to discuss are Anne Pettifor, economist and member of Labours

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economic advisory committee, and Dia Chakravorty

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It is lovely to have you both here. We should start by saying that

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actually, when you look at the Osborne legacy, in terms of

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employment numbers and business creation and that pension

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liberalisation, some of his achievements word truly remarkable.

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The longer and weakest recovery in history. If you want to look at

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public debt, which continues to rise, despite massive fiscal

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consolidation, it started off it was going to be five years and turned

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into ten. He just had bigger ambitions, is that the crime? That

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-- debt continues to rise. There is that and low wages, low

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productivity, about which he has done very little, did very little.

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There is the fact wages are so low and he did respond to that with the

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minimum wage, but a little too late, too little too late. What else is

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there? Low investment. What is interesting is at the beginning of

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his role as Chancellor, he delivered a lecture, and nice lecture, in

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which he talks about imbalances in the economy, global imbalances, and

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then never talked about it again. Would you choose any of those points

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as criticisms of Osborne? Would you say it was wrong of him to go after

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cutting the deficit and after austerity?

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One thing and points out is true, debt went from 1.3 trillion to 1.6

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trillion. Was that he is doing his failure to manage expectations? It

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was his failure to do enough to bring it down, but to be fair to

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him... I have spent most of my career attacking George Osborne's

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policies, but his legacy is very much a mixed bag. There are some

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good things come as bad things sounds OK things. If you look at the

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good side of it, he did inherit an ailing economy, which he never tired

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of reminding us about. But he did inherit that and he did bring

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deficit down from 10% of GDP to 4% of GDP. What would you say to the

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minimum wage being raised over ?9 or the number of jobs? At the end of

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the day he realised real low wages, lower than they were before the

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crisis ten years ago, were harming the economy. He woke up to that very

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late in the day. Even then he has done very little about it. For

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example, today the cleaners in HMRC are going on strike because although

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they have been granted this new minimum wage of ?9, they are told

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they will have fewer hours. Theresa May now talking in explicit terms

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about an industrial strategy, not a phrase we have heard for 20 years or

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whatever. Is that the right way to go, to forget the Northern

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Powerhouse, to say is about every city, is it deliverable? The

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Northern Powerhouse always sounded like a gimmick, a desperate attempt

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to hold onto something... We needed a powerhouse everywhere across the

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country. It didn't make much sense to me. One thing I would say that I

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would like to see is scrapping of vanity projects like HS2, which is a

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massively expensive project which is about to hit 90 billion by our own

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research. We focus those on infrastructure policies which are

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actually going to benefit people, because this is a pernicious project

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which is bankrupting the transport infrastructure budget as a whole.

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Things like that are really important and now with a good

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opportunity. Really important that you shouldn't follow these things?

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Exactly, take the opportunity of the new administration. Doesn't that

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waste millions of pounds, millions of hours of work, in constantly

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recalibrating what might have been a good idea? If it isn't a good idea

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and you still see it through, you end up wasting more money in the

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long run. You have to be smart. The trouble with the idea of an

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industrial strategy as it needs financing and unless we address the

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issues facing the City of London, and the City of London doesn't act

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as a servant to the economy but master of the economy, does little

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about that. He allowed the City of London to carry on as before the

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crisis. This is what has happened since the crisis, banks have not

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lent into the real economy. Is Theresa May going to make a

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difference or have her first row with the city question that will she

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take them on question I doubt it, that's why don't think an industrial

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strategy will work. Where does your industrial committee sit at the

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moment, does it this question mark it does exist, activities are

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suspended until after the leadership election. We're waiting for the

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leadership election to stop do you feel when you listen to Theresa May

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now that she is an Labour territory, speaking your language? Or do you

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immediately want to push back? Definitely she is trying to switch

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the Tory party away from this kind of elitism which existed under

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Cameron. She has been quite ruthless. Some really bold moves,

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and I'd expect, in terms of removing some of the old personalities and

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the old ideologies. And China? Resetting that? Interesting to see

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what to choose sex with China. More kowtowing less? It has to be a

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balance. -- choose what she does with China foster I think she had

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shown a lot of grit and I think that's what she needs to continue to

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show. We are out of time, thank you both for coming in.

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Well, more than a month after the Brexit vote,

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life has gone as normal for the vast majority of people in the country.

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One group, though, who are anxiously awaiting the details

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of our disentanglement are migrants from the EU who are fearful

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about what will happen to them and anxious about whether

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they are still welcome in post-Brexit Britain.

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Secunder Kermani has been to the Midlands town of Corby

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to hear about their experiences since June 23rd.

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There's some strong language in his report.

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Corby steelworks attracted hundreds of migrant workers from Scotland

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Today steel has been replaced by food processing plants

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And the migrants coming to work there are Poles,

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But nearly two thirds of voters here backed Brexit.

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Over a month on from the referendum, this group of Polish students

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growing up in the town are clear it's had an impact on relations.

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I think the most general comment would be, "foreigners".

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That's the most common that I would hear.

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What would you say when you heard someone say that?

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I'd just turn around and they'd be like, oh no, that's

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Who else are you saying it to when there is no one

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"I wish all foreigners went back to their country."

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And I was the only foreigner in the class.

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The vote has affected what people say.

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I think people find that it's more acceptable to say that now,

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Four years ago I've been in school and I've been bitten like three

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So now I'm not in school, I'm in the workplace,

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and I find working with English and British people,

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it's better than going to school with little kids.

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My friend used to go out with me all the time and play football,

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And after the referendum he told me he was scared to go

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out because something might happen to him.

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You've lived here for ten years, you're only 13, I guess Britain

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Does it still feel like where you belong?

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It does, but I'm feeling more distant to it now.

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It makes me feel sad, because I lived here for six years,

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And if I had the choice to stay here or go back to Poland,

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At the Euro market, others say they've also been targeted

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in the rise in hate crime reported since the referendum.

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Like Lena, originally from Lithuania, who has been

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One time it happened that I was speaking in my own language

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with my grandma from Lithuania and just I get Coca-Cola to my face.

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And swearing at me, in the middle of the day.

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They say, "you fucking refugee, why are you speaking your

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Has anything like this ever happened to you before?

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I have three kids who even speak better English

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Hard times because it's not safe any more, I think.

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The government has announced new measures against hate crime,

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but hasn't guaranteed EU citizens already here their rights

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I really don't want to go back to Poland, I wish to stay here.

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But what is going to be, you never know.

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Under current rules, EU migrants who have spent

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five years in Britain, qualify for permanent residence.

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That's part of the reason why some aren't so worried

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Others without families here say they can easily go elsewhere.

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I feel I'm welcome here, I stay.

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I feel I'm not welcome here, I go home.

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For even the first country, I think Germany.

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Because a lot of people are coming here to get benefits.

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Many of the EU migrants in Corby find work through

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The Home Affairs Select Committee has said there could be a surge

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But they haven't seen any evidence of that here.

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Rather than a surge, at the moment many EU migrants seem

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to be questioning their future in the new Britain.

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It's hard when you know that you've come here to live a better life

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and you're working like other people, you're paying bills,

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And they start to treat you like that.

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Like rubbish, you feel like rubbish, it's that simple.

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Two weeks on from the attempted coup in Turkey, President Erdogan will be

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able to use powers granted by the three month state

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of emergency to issue direct orders to his military -

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talking to heads of his army, air force and navy - himself.

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The coup attempt involved only 1.5 percent of the armed forces -

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according to Turkish media - but the plotters used

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Turkish ministers say this overhaul to the military command structure

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But it comes at a time when the country is deeply divided

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and many fear the move could create more hate and distrust.

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Today the President once again blasted western powers for what he

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called support for the coup - and suggested it was 'supporting

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terrorism' by not leaping to his defence.

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Three weeks ago on the night of the 15th of July the world

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watched as an attempted coup was televised.

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The Turkish military issued a statement saying

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Istanbul's bridges were blocked, TV stations closed,

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President Erdogan's FaceTime plea for supporters to take

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Civilians fought back, the coup had failed,

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Erdogan returned to Istanbul and to his jubilant supporters.

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He blamed the American-based cleric Fethullah Gulen for the dissent

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and started to weed out those considered to be his dissenters.

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Turkey is now under a state of emergency.

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3,000 military officers have been dismissed and 160

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3,000 judges and prosecutors have been pushed out,

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over 100 media organisations have been closed, 40

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So far all in all, more than 60,000 people in the military, judiciary,

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civil service and schools have been either detained,

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Talip Kucukcan is on the Foreign Relations Committee

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Thank you for coming in. Your president we stated today that this

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coup against him was supported by the West and intimated that the West

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was supporting terrorism. Do you stand by those words? What we see in

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Turkey is a threat to Turkish democracy and elected government and

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we have seen that people were killed who defended their democratically

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elected government. When you look at the gravity of the problem and those

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involved in the coup attempt, they might be a conspiracy theory but

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also there are facts on the ground if you look at the testimony of

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those people, they indicate there are certain groups behind that.

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Particularly the Fethullah Gulen movement. The exiled cleric. The

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exiled cleric. If you look at the testimony of those involved in the

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coup attempt they said they were members and they were given the job

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of listening to the army people, the president, the chief of staff. When

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you spoke about Western powers supporting terrorism, that is not

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quite the same thing. What Turkey expected from the Western powers is

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to be with Turkey when there was such a big threat to Turkish

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democracy. It is not only the coup attempt that Turkey is based, in

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recent years and especially in the last decades we have seen a threat

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from the PKK to Turkey, then the threat from Daesh and the Syrian

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crisis. I think Turkey expected a firmer stand for the Turkish

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democracy, for Turkish civil liberties. I think this in my

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understanding on the part of Erdogan, he wanted to become part of

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Europe, that is the story of Turkey since he came to power in 2002. You

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remember all those reforms for Turkey to become part of the EU. So

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heart -- how our relationship between Turkey and the EU and how

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does the migrants deal now stand? As far as I can see the deal is still

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on the table and Jackie really has been carrying out its own

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commitments because of the three main objectives to the deal, want to

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stop the death of people on the Aegean Sea. This is not put you off?

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If you look at the deal, Turkey is carrying out its responsibilities.

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One was taking refugees illegally arrived on the Greek islands and

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that is taking place but when it comes to Visa liberalisation, that

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is not resolved. And looking at burden sharing, this also has not

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been carried out by the European partners. When the West looks at

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Turkey and its response, and they may have been sympathy for Erdogan

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against the coup, but when you look at what has happened now, the purge

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of 60,000 people, the tensions in Ankara, 1500 university deans told

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to step down, the academics, the journalists, the imprisonment of

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people who clearly did not have any part in that coup itself, it looks

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like Turkey is not a democracy that the West can deal with. We

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understand the concerns of our Western partners, of course. But if

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you look... So you say we should not done it? They might of course be

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some concerns and voices, but when we look at the state of emergency in

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Turkey as I have just explained, the enormity of the threat that we have

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been facing, it is not just the academics and the deans, but an

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organisation whose members have been infiltrating into the state system.

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The judiciary, the army and intelligence. So there might be

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more? There might be more. We now have to see, when the dust settles

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we will see things case-by-case. At the moment you have 60,000 in

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prison, do think that the number will rise question mark no, not in

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prison, the numbers you talk about include those people suspended from

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their work, it does not mean that they are in prison. How hard could

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the number rise? I have no idea at the moment, I cannot say, but if you

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want to work in state institutions you have to take sensually organised

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tests. What we know today is that questions were stolen by the members

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of this Fethullah Gulen organisation. And now we will find

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out who these people where when they wanted to become judges,

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prosecutors, policemen, intelligence. We know Erdogan does

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not tolerate dissent against him even in the form of best satirical

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poem. One such poem was written by Boris Johnson, our Foreign

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Secretary, I wonder how well received he would be in Turkey now.

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Of course he will be received well because Turkey and the UK have been

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allies for a long time. If you look at the relation between Turkey and

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the UK, there is a lot of trade between the two countries, many

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British companies are active in Turkey with a lot of investment. I

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think these are issues that we've got to look at rather than the

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perception. Thank you for coming in. Now that we've voted

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to leave the European Union, do we have any further use

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for our EU passports? Post Brexit, some are calling

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for a return to the sturdy, personalised, navy passports of old,

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personally signed by the monarch and - no less importantly -

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weighted with the endorsement of previous presenters

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of this programme. So would this be a welcome

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restoration of a proud national institution -or a return to good

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old days of the british rail buffet Stephen Smith - who,

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confusingly lists his occupation as 'journalist' in his passport -

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throws the deabte - # Come fly with me, let's

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fly, let's fly away #. Oh, the golden days of travel -

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the cabin trunks, the silver service,

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the monogrammed sick bags... In the days when the sun never set

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on the British Empire, it seemed the holder of a British

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passport never had It wouldn't last forever,

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as this evenhanded piece by a young The British passport wasn't so much

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something you presented for inspection by some grubby

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little border policeman, It was solid, sturdy

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and understated, like the front door of number ten, the radiator grille

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of a Rolls-Royce or the These days people still

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want to travel in style, but they have to do so on something

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smaller and flimsier, and looking like a passbook

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of the Nuneaton Building Society. Today the Sun called for the return

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of the navy blue British passport, saying, "The Government must make

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plans to reintroduce the blue ones, We'll be the first in

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the queue for a new blue." CHANITNG: "WE WANT

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OUR COUNTRY BACK!" This was former Ukip leader

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Nigel Farage during Nobody's over keen on their passport

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photo, good luck to this loser But what do people feel

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about the passport itself? I feel like I'm being interrogated

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by the Bulgarian secret police... The director of the Design Museum

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never leaves the house without his. If you open it up, you find

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those immortal words about her Britannic Majesty requests

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and requires us to leave, If you actually look

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at a contemporary passport, it's full of feel-good

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notions of Britishness. This looks like the Wind

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In The Willows deep down. There's a dragon fly

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in there somewhere, and strangely, isobars, which I guess

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is about the weather. My family came from a country

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that no longer exists, They arrived in the 1930s,

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and for a long time they had to have their Yugoslav passport

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with its blazing flags of communism and its star of socialism,

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stamped with the words, For my parents, getting their first

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blue British passport What about the thoughts of a travel

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writer, forever crossing frontiers, collecting exotic stamps

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in their passport? We found one who's just

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been using hers to get I don't have any romantic attachment

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to it, and I think that the idea of going back to the old passport

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is pure jingoism with no The last thing we need at the moment

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is to be more inward looking. We need to find ways of connecting

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with Europe at this time. For families trying to get away

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on holiday this summer, kipping in their cars at Dover,

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uppermost on their minds has been Our current passport isn't

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beautiful, it's functional. When I looked at the thing

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in the Sun, the blue one, it's even clunkier, a clunky

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passport, not beautiful at all. We've got to start thinking

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of beauty, and that can be done... There's a big difference

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between funky and beauty, and design can make something

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beautiful, and that sums up Now, where's that bloke

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in the arrivals hall, holding up Hello. Wednesday's weather brings

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with it a day of contrasts. We will see some dry, sunny and windy

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weather across England and

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In-depth investigation and analysis of the stories behind the day's headlines with Emily Maitlis. Topics include George Osborne's legacy, EU migrants in Corby, Turkey and the old British passport.


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