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The Games of the 30th Olympiad in 2012 are awarded


Our principle is to deliver a lasting, sporting legacy.


Our Olympics will give the East End of London the huge regenerative


It's a job creator, it's a growth generator.


Our aim is to inspire young people across Britain


and the world to take up sport.


The stadium will be a purpose-built home for athletics


I would say the legacy is a success on every level.


Two days to go until the Rio Olympics opens.


This time four years ago, the excitement and the trepidation and


the Yanks at that things would go well. It did. Was the economics


worth it and why are fewer cities coming forward to offer to host. We


will hear from Dame Kelly Holmes, Dame Tessa Jarrell when we ask if


London 2012 succeeded in inspiring a new generation into sport.


Inspire a generation became an mantra of the London 2012 Olympics.


Go back to 2005 and the promise lake at the heart of London's pitch to


host The Games. And it worked. With London overhauling its main rival,


Paris in the final vote. The 2012 organisers and the Coalition


Government made two specific promises. The first centred on


harnessing Britain's passion for sport to increase grassroots


participation and to encourage the whole population to be more


physically active. The other focused on promoting community engagement


and achieving participation across all groups in society through The


Games. Has the legacy been achieved? Keep your hand up higher. In 2011 in


Tower Hamlets, surrounded by Olympic venues, there was a sense of


optimism. In terms of Olympic legacy, it is here, we are


delivering it. In terms of the promises about youth and


participation, we are here doing it. That was christened Willits speaking


a year before London hosted The Games. Five years on, I went back to


ask him if the legacy had lived on. We had everything in place to be


able to deliver probably the best legacy there had been to any Olympic


Games ever. But since pretty much when the Olympics came into town,


we've just been fighting for survival. That sense of lost


opportunity is rooted in the scrapping of the school sports


partnership. ?162 million of annual government funding, which was


withdrawn shortly before The Games began. It has been partially


replaced, but critics point to the inconsistencies in house School


sport is now provided. In Tower Hamlets, there is pride access to


sport that the children is continuing and achieving tangible


success, despite the cuts. What is it about sport you like? I adore it,


it is my favourite thing in my life. I do sport a lot and this is the


best sports I have ever done. When you watched some of the Olympics on


TV, did it make you think you could definitely do that? Yes. When Tom


Daley did the dive and he landed on his back. That's not a recollection


Tom Daley would share, having won a bronze medal. These kids are


enjoying their school summer sports, but it is this kind of activity that


convinced the IOC in 2005 to give London the 2012 games. They were


convinced by the organisers' claims of creating a fitter, healthier


nation. But when you look back to when the bid was one, and then to


2012 when The Games took place. 15.8 million adults play sport or


exercise once a week. An extra 1.7 million to 2005. Since 2012, the


numbers have fallen by just under half of 1%. The biggest decline


among ethnic minorities and economically deprived groups. The


overall Olympic budget was ?9.3 billion. The huge proportion going


towards regenerating a large area of east London. Money was diverted


towards building a sporting legacy however, with 100 35mm pounds of


lottery funding spent on facilities, protecting playing fields and


volunteering programmes and extending access to Olympic sports.


Our ambition was sky-high, and so it should have been. The recession did


have an effect, but if you look at the picture across the piece, you


can't do anything but agree that the London Olympics was a huge success


for sport in this country. It transformed our reputation


internationally. The point of this was the future generations and it


was going to cost a lot of money, no doubt about that. It was going to be


quite disruptive in many ways. But the point was it would improve us as


a country. It provided a very nice summer party, and that is it. A ?9


billion party? At least. Persuading adults to take up sport is a


continuing process. Sport England's campaign has one post-Olympic


effort, said to have convinced around 1.6 million women to start


exercising. The lead sport is yielding significant results, Team


GB helps to win 48 medals at the Rio games. With 64% of over 16 is doing


no sport or exercise, it seems changing mindsets and delivering


London's promise for all, is still a long way off. But, there is always


hope. What do you watch and think, I can definitely do that? Going round


the track. I saw the great British runners running round and I thought,


I can definitely do that. Let's talk to Dame Tessa Jowell,


Dame Kelly Holmes and Debbie Jevans, Dame Kelly, this tag line was about


inspiring a new generation, did it do that? Is it too early to look


back and see if it has been achieved? I have always come to the


assumption that legacy is a long-term effect. Having been


interactive with lots of people in my years and especially in previous


years, I have seen a big impact over that time. I am somebody now who


isn't in elite sport, but wants to keep fit and active and I am trying


to engage with communities to do that. So the mass participation


events I have seen improve and get more people into sport, have been


something I have seen as an ongoing effect of what legacy is. So the


visibility is there of these high impact events, but what is your


sense, Tessa Jowell, we had from Hugh Robertson who said it is


impossible to disagree it was a huge success for sport in this country,


do you share that? I do in part. 19 major World Championships between


now and 2020 will be hosted in London. What we failed to do, what


the Coalition Government did, was to destroy the school sports programme


that was on course to seeing the majority of children playing at


least five hours of sport every week. Choosing from 14 different


sports, renewed facilities and proper coaching. So, we started in


2002, 20 5% of children playing two hours of sport a week. By the time


we got to 2010 and the change of government, 60% of children were


playing five hours or more and 98% of children were playing at least


two hours of sport. And that was the infrastructure to drive this


transformation of a generation through sport and the Coalition


Government dismantled it. When you look at the numbers, as sports


director of London 2012, we have plateaued and even fallen as a


nation and participation in sport, it is


incredible, isn't it? It is incredible, but it is good. If you


look at Athens, and what has happened in Sydney, the fact we have


maintained the levels we had in 2012 is a positive thing. Is that right,


no city in specs to increase their participation and our benchmark is


Athens? Our benchmark is 14 million. That is when the change of


investment started and Tessa was a part of that as well. We are up to


maintaining the levels we had in 2012. Tessa makes the point of what


happened in schools. That is vital we do continue to invest in those


and that is what is happening in line to the school games, which is


another thing that is important. If you dedicate the money, it is not


spent on sport, so you have to ring fenced it in schools and beyond. I


was a national school sport champion for three years 2005 to 2008 and I


saw how schools were empowering young people into sport. But with


2012, what happened for me, was the enormity of what school brought. The


set of it just being athletics, football and those high profile


sports, what happened from 2012 is it encourage people to see that


sport is for anybody. What you have seen the likes of handball, an


unknown sport has been rising out of the water because of 2012. Cycling,


as a sports. If you look back at 2008, it wasn't really well-known,


now you get a three days festival, which I have just done, ride London.


Shouldn't it worry you we are seeing a decline in economically deprived


groups, ethnic minority groups? It is also part of the legacy? I agree


with that, and there are barriers to entry in some communities. My trust


works with a lot of areas of depravation and they want to do it,


but they haven't got the resources or the funding. In some areas they


don't have the infrastructure. London is very lucky and privileged


as a city. We see other cities hosting big games, very privileged.


You go to other areas and they are not feeling it. Was the ambition too


high? It was sky-high, maybe RIBA unrealistic? The ambition was not


too high. Until 2010 everybody showed working together across


party, the ambition was achievable. Would it have been different under a


Labour government? I think it would have been different had the


Coalition Government been misguided. I don't want to make this too


partisan, had they not been so misguided and said, we will remove


the ring fence, the dedicated funding that goes into schools. I


accept the work being done at sport England, which I clearly believe is


excellent and we will not get into a debate. I was delivering The Games


when it was happening. But ?9,000 was going into every primary school,


there is still funding. What is important, if we look to an active


nation, which is what the ambition is now, it is also the way that


sport is being coached in schools. Kelly, you are a talented athlete,


you enjoyed it. A lot of children are put off. It is not just about


the money, it is about the way it is coached. It is an emphasis of the


child thinks that I can do it. It is a big part of what is being rolled


out now. We are going to talk about the money next.


A newly-reinvigorated sporting nation was not the only


There was also the promise of an East London renaissance.


The facilities, the housing, the regeneration.


The Olympic Park itself is well used and well liked -


Nor is it Montreal, the byword for post-Olympic financial disaster.


But a lot of the long-term plans for the area - West Ham moving


into the Olympic Stadium or UCL opening a new site in East London,


Chris Cook has been piecing together what we can say right now


about London 2012's long-term economic legacy.


7,000 pigeons circle the stadium before carrying the news


The Olympics can be a very expensive enterprise.


The Russian Sochi Winter Games in 2014, according


to official estimates, cost 51 billion US dollars.


The Beijing Summer Games in 2008, cost around 40 billion US dollars.


Compared to them, the cost of the London 2012 Games


The building of new offices and a higher education


campus in Stratford, for example, are still not complete.


One argument for the economic benefits of the Olympics


is they give political cover to do things that people


The Barcelona Games in 1992 were considered successful,


but they were used as a pretext to implant parts of an urban


redevelopment plan first drawn up in 1976.


In London's case though, we built some useful


things, like housing, but the Olympics where


things, like housing, but the Olympics were


the aim of much of our investment, not a pretext.


That might help explain why earnings are not improving fast


enough in the Olympic area to catch up with the rest of London.


Nor the employment rate, nor adult skill levels,


Barcelona had another economic advantage -


after years of being forgotten under Franco, Barcelona was a relatively


There were only 3.8 million tourist nights spent there in 1990.


20 years later, that stood at 15 million,


But by then, London was already a world city with 49 million tourist


Olympic marketing offered smaller opportunities to London than it


Indeed, the difficulty of emulating Barcelona may explain why a lot


of cities are now sceptical about hosting the Games.


Athens 2004 beat off 11 other applicant cities.


Tokyo is holding the 2020 Games and it beat just four other cities.


The London Olympics led to a lot of development and real


regeneration takes time, but maybe it's best to remember it


as a ?9 billion party, and anything else we get is a bonus.


Lets pick up again with Tessa Jowell,


What is emerging from that graphic is that there is less global


appetite now to actually host these events. Does that shock you? In a


way, no it doesn't. Because I think the economics have changed in the


world generally and it is very expensive. The IOC recognised that,


why they have their 2020 vision. The IOC didn't focus on the future until


post-2012 and now it makes the city think about the legacy and the


benefits. But it's enormously expensive and I think it's going to


need a rethink. I'm not sure in 20 or 30 years' time we will see the


Games in just one city, it could be in a whole country. We have set a


bar at ?9 billion which seems hugely unrealistic for anywhere smaller?


That is absolutely right. At domestic Lee what the investment of


?9.3 billion did it was to regenerate east London in six years


at a rate that would have otherwise taken 60 years. That regeneration is


still happening. But Debbie is absolutely right, you've got to be


very clear and ruthless about your legacy ambitions before ever


embarking on it. And we were absolutely clear that we had two


legacy ambitions, to regenerate east London, which was a wasteland, and


to transform a generation of young people through sport. Kelly is


absolutely right in what she said at the beginning coming you've got to


look at this over the long-term. I hope we can come back in ten years'


time and look at what's happening in these London. Demi just bring in


Cali. You are famed throughout the world feel sport but do you ever get


people here at home saying to you, we spent ?269 million on an Aquatics


Centre, its one swimming pool, how many kids can use that? Like I say,


I came on here and I was nervous about coming on the show, I have an


opinion about this because I do my thing and I am sporty but other


people on my Twitter for example have a completely different opinion.


I was very surprised that there were a lot of really positive responses.


I asked the question I was on Newsnight, talking about legacy,


what do you think? I was release apprised, I -- really surprised, I


saw a lot -- hike spec today lot of negative talk, people saying, you


spent tenderly hands, what did it for me? But I had a lot of positive


responses, some saying their children are so motivated and want


to be into sport. Others saying World Championship events are now


hosted in the UK and they get to go, others love the Olympic. For east


London we are creating a low busy and that is long-term. Are we doing


nationally? Not sure. Why are places like Toronto and Hamburg having to


ask through referendums whether there cities want to host the Games?


The world has changed, we just had our own referendum, and the economic


situation is very difficult. People are looking at that and maybe if we


asked about hosting the Games now we would not have had the same


response. I think there is a growing rebellion against what people


experience as the kind of imposition of big events like this. I think


there is a challenge for the International Olympic Committee in


really calibrating the ownership with the cities and the countries


that decide to host them. Probably to become less prescriptive, to be


less proprietorial about the Olympic brand. And I think very particularly


to decide whether the Olympic Games is going to continue to be a global


Games. When will we see an Olympic Games in Africa? Post-Rio, I think


we're going to have a lot of questions asked about how it has


affected the people who live there. Thank you very much indeed, all of


you. The London 2012 Opening Ceremony


portrayed a Britain of the NHS, of the Industrial Revolution,


of Isambard Kingdom Brunel, of Prospero, of Suffragettes,


immigrants and Chelsea Pensioners, of James Bond, of Corgis,


of the Queen and Mr Bean. It was broadly hailed as a triumph,


chaotic, bonkers, but brilliant, a stark contrast to an equally


commended but highly-regimented one So, does the Opening Ceremony tell


us anything about our country? Peter Hitchens and Sunder


Katwala have joined me. Let me throw that one open to both


of you. What did it tell us about the country and what did it say to


you? I love it. The world was watching, we had the Queen with


James Bond and Mr Bean and that were recognisable but it was a story


about us, us, full of in jokes about our national psyche and


conversation, the shipping forecast, the EastEnders theme tune. It's


about things we experience together, things we share, the shared


soundtrack of our lives. The fact that 27 million of us were watching


that night is quite rare in society today, doing something together on


that scale. Peter Hitchens. I just don't think that everyone at the


country thought at the time or things now that the 1960s were the


beginning of civilisation, that rap music was the best representation of


British culture... Certainly myself, I didn't find it particularly


appealing. I felt very much under pressure to say that I liked it and


when I said that I didn't, people could say we disagree -- people


didn't say we disagree with you, let's talk about this, they said it


was shocking that I didn't like it. I agree there was a monoculture at


the time, wasn't there? Why do you go back to the 1960s? The opening


ceremony went back to the industrial revolution and Shakespeare. It was


dominated hugely by the 60s theme, by rock music and punk and all this


garbage as far as I'm concerned which has no bearing on culture at


all and this is what they were clearly happiest with and what


dominated. The suffragettes? Well, the suffragettes were in their too.


Paul Flynn, who I like immensely who is a very good left-wing member of


Parliament enjoy it immensely because it was left wing. I'm not


left wing and I disliked the bits of it that were left wing. I'm not so


sure about that because in a way because it had a leftward reach and


a liberal reach for something that was patriotically at the history and


the roots were their too. I think you try to blend that. Cultural


voices were on stand-by to defend it and there was no biddy to defend it


against. Apart from anybody else, nobody can criticise the Olympics


for being multicultural while using language like that... It's a much


broader ownership than that. The clue is the 27 million people. If


you're one of the people in London who voted Remain and are very upset


about the referendum, it you would be thinking what have we lost, I


want my country back. If you are a Leave voter in the potteries, you


will beat thinking that explains the reason I voted leave, the Jarrow


marchers, the Industrial Revolution... People who disagree


politically shared these cultural moments. Unjustified confidence. The


Olympics are like a family on your street known for being heavily in


debt who can't make their mortgage payments who suddenly borrow


hundreds of thousands of pounds to stage an enormous party. That is


what we did. This is a country hugely in debt as a step and as a


people and we splashed 9 billion quid on this immense party, which we


didn't need to stage and we actually fought to stage. Austerity should


have been a gigantic plughole with George Osborne shovelling ?50 notes


in. This reminded people of everything we've achieved, the


Industrial Revolution, Shakespeare, Dickens, Harry pot, the Queen. It


gave us that, if you like, nation state confidence. We've soared


onwards and upwards ever since, of course (!) What does that mean? What


about Brexit's effect of the economy? It had no effect except


increasing our overdraft. It doesn't feature in the ground sweep after


Sergeant Pepper, you don't have Heath and Wilson taking us into


Europe. That process of change wasn't on the ballot paper in this


election, it wasn't do you want to live in 1962 or 2016? It was asking


do you like living in 2016 and 52% of the population said not really,


not very much. They still own that historic sweep which belongs to both


sides of the referendum. They said we don't like being ignored by the


kind of people who devise our opening ceremony. This is a bit too


short and I apologise, thank you very much indeed for coming in.


The father of a 21-year-old woman imprisoned in Saudi Arabia


has been ordered by a high court judge to return her to the UK.


Amina Al Jeffery, who grew up in Swansea and has dual British


and Saudi nationality, complained that her father had kept her locked


up in a cage because he disapproved of her Western lifestyle.


Her father claims he was trying to protect her.


Secunder Kermani has interviewed Amina's friend, who first raised


the alarm of her imprisonment, and has spoken to a charity who say


Imprisoned in her father's home for four years in Saudi Arabia without


being allowed to leave. 21-year-old Amina Al Jeffery


believes her family once heard dead. She was taken to Jeddah by her


ultraconservative parents who claimed she was taking drugs and


drinking. Through lawyers, she has been fighting to be able to return


to the UK. In court today, the judge said that the constraints placed on


Amina Al Jeffery by her father might be acceptable in Saudi Arabia but


they are not in Britain. He said she was being deprived of her right to


act as an independent adult and that she needed to be rescued. The judge


ruled that Amina's father must allow her to return to Britain by Sunday


the 11th of September. The question is whether her father, living in


Saudi Arabia, will pay any attention to the rulings of a court the UK.


Amina's lawyer has not been able to talk to her because of her father. I


would love to speak to Amina today to explain to her what the judge


said and how concerned he is for her well-being, that he considers her to


be under constraint and he used the word peril. Amina grew up here in


this quiet, mainly white Swansea a bird. We've spoken to a number of


her friends who extra I'm her -- who described her family as being


extremely socially conservative. Amina didn't fit into that, we have


been told that unlike her sisters she would take off her hijab at


times. She wanted to have a normal life but that brought her into


conflict with her father. She would take clothes to change into at


school. She didn't want to be dressing in skimpy clothes, she just


wanted to be dressed how she wanted to be dressed. Colourful blazers and


nice shoes and jewellery. She would stick jewellery on hand statement


necklaces. -- and statement necklaces. One charities say they


warned the police in 2011 that Amina was at risk of being taken to Saudi


Arabia by her family but nothing was done. The police say they received


no such warning and only got involved in April 2012 after Amina


had disappeared. I had a message saying she was going on holiday to


Morocco for two weeks. I didn't hear from her until three months later,


telling me she had been taken to Saudi Arabia. What did you say in


her messages to you? She just said I've been taken against my will, I


don't want to be here, you need to help me. She just didn't want to be


there. She said it was like prison, she couldn't get out. She wanted to


get on with her life. She wanted to get home, it wasn't where she


belonged. Her friend read out one of the many worrying messages she


received. "I'm Writing this story in case worse comes to worst people


know what happened. You don't know what I've been through the last


week. I have to tell you but I don't have time". Amina's mother and some


of her siblings Silicon Wales. We've spoken to members of the family who


say their brothers controlled their sister's actions. At the moment she


doesn't have any support from her siblings and her siblings have filed


evidence in support of her father's case. Amina is a jewel Saudi and


British national and that could come to eight things. The Foreign Office


say they are raising the matter with Saudi authorities but if her father


does not comply, it's not clear what the courts here can do.


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