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Ceasefire in Syria - but not for Islamic State | :00:00. | :00:08. | |
and the jihadists formerly known as Nusra Front. | :00:09. | :00:12. | |
A leading figure exclusively tells Newsnight that America and Russia | :00:13. | :00:14. | |
can't carry out their plan to hit them without hitting | :00:15. | :00:16. | |
It's not uncommon to have one family with members from several groups | :00:17. | :00:23. | |
They go fight and they come back to their houses, with their | :00:24. | :00:28. | |
JFS is deeply embedded in society and cannot be singled | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
And can this really alleviate the suffering? | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
We film an extraodinary operation in Aleppo guided | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
Hilary Clinton is unwell - she cancels campaigning | :00:43. | :00:48. | |
because of a bout of pneumonia, diagnosed but not | :00:49. | :00:50. | |
Now Donald Trump is to release his medical records. | :00:51. | :00:55. | |
We hear from former candidate Howard Dean. | :00:56. | :00:58. | |
Well, that's what the press does, the press doesn't like people's | :00:59. | :01:02. | |
privacy, as we say on this side of the Atlantic, so they resent it. | :01:03. | :01:07. | |
But if you had Hillary Clinton with the experience of the press, | :01:08. | :01:09. | |
The founder of the Daily Beast, Tina Brown, is here to | :01:10. | :01:14. | |
I can't believe this has happened to me! | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
It's all gone horribly wrong for the BBC. | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
Bake Off, which delivered ten million viewers and headlines | :01:22. | :01:23. | |
galore, is leaving the broadcaster for the Channel 4 kitchen | :01:24. | :01:26. | |
First Top Gear, then The Voice, now this. | :01:27. | :01:30. | |
Should the BBC do what it takes to keep their best show, | :01:31. | :01:37. | |
or is there a limit to the money? We'll ask former BBC One controller | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
executive Lorraine Hegassy what she would have done. | :01:41. | :01:51. | |
Just before the ceasefire in Syria which started six hours ago | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
President Assad vowed to take back the whole of Syria from rebel groups | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
in an interview broadcast on state media. | :02:00. | :02:02. | |
The seven day ceasefire includes improved humanitarian access | :02:03. | :02:05. | |
and joint US Russian targeting of hardline extremists, | :02:06. | :02:12. | |
but a big challenge is how to separate nationalist rebels | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
from jihadists, especially as the grouping formerly | :02:17. | :02:18. | |
known as the Nusra Front, which has been playing a vital role | :02:19. | :02:21. | |
Our reporter Secunder Kermani has had an exclusive interview | :02:22. | :02:26. | |
with a representative of the jihadi group. | :02:27. | :02:29. | |
On the Muslim festival of sackrifies more bloodshed as regime planes | :02:30. | :02:42. | |
bombed rebel held Aleppo, ahead of the ceasefire coming into effect. | :02:43. | :02:48. | |
A deal is meant to bring a week of peace allowing aid into besieged | :02:49. | :02:51. | |
areas. It is no long-term solution though. | :02:52. | :02:57. | |
Assad performed triumph fall prayers in a district newly captured from | :02:58. | :03:00. | |
rebels. And vowed to take the entire | :03:01. | :03:06. | |
country. Opposition representatives haven't formally signed a deal, and | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
many in rebel areas, while glad of any pause in fighting are sceptical. | :03:12. | :03:17. | |
One of the key elms in the deal is if the ceasefire holds for a week, | :03:18. | :03:22. | |
instead of Assad's Air Force America and Russia will set up a joint | :03:23. | :03:30. | |
command, they say to target Isis, and the Jihadist group JFS. | :03:31. | :03:37. | |
JFS were until recently called Nusra and were Al-Qaeda's affiliate in | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
Syria. They officially severed ties with | :03:42. | :03:49. | |
Al-Qaeda. Unlike Isis, they fought a long side mainstream rebel groups | :03:50. | :03:53. | |
and have been key in breaking the regime siege of Aleppo. JFS | :03:54. | :03:56. | |
spokesman answered questions I e-mails to him about the plans to | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
target them. The question is where do they think it exists? They are | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
not on another planet. They are parliament of the Syrian society. It | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
is not uncommon to have one family with members from several groups | :04:11. | :04:13. | |
living in the same house. They go fight and come back to their house, | :04:14. | :04:19. | |
with their family, with civilians. JFS is deeply embedded in society, | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
and cannot be singled out in any way. They don't govern, and area on | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
their own, they are not exclusive to any particular location. America and | :04:30. | :04:35. | |
Russia know this very very well. This map shows areas under control | :04:36. | :04:44. | |
by different factions in Syria. Isis territory is demarcated but JFS | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
jointly controlled areas alongside rebel groups and that ignored the | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
complicated aligns in many place, it seems the US is trying to split the | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
other rebels away from JFS but they are seen as a powerful ally It is | :04:59. | :05:02. | |
seen as a Syrian movement, standing up for Syrians and fighting the | :05:03. | :05:09. | |
regime. They are effective particularly in recent offensives in | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
Aleppo. It makes no sense to peel away from them. In some ways some of | :05:14. | :05:19. | |
the rebel groups could see this as divide and rule by the great powers | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
and ignore it. JFS has concentrated on attacking | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
the Assad regime but some say despite the official break, they are | :05:31. | :05:35. | |
still Al-Qaeda and still a danger. Something their spokesman denies. We | :05:36. | :05:38. | |
have been very clear about our split but I will say it again, JFS is not | :05:39. | :05:45. | |
an affiliate of Al-Qaeda. We are an independent body working to | :05:46. | :05:48. | |
establish the common goals of the revolutionary forces in Syria. | :05:49. | :05:52. | |
I asked if that means they oppose events like 9/11? As for 9/11 that | :05:53. | :05:58. | |
happened 15 years ago, and is completely irrelevant to what is | :05:59. | :06:04. | |
happening in Syrian today. Would you ask Obama to be responsible for | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
policies that the United States had in Japan, or Vietnam, or South | :06:10. | :06:12. | |
America under previous admin straights? Obviously not. Our | :06:13. | :06:18. | |
policies are clear, and that is all that matters. | :06:19. | :06:22. | |
The coalition of other rebel groups have tonight indicated they will | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
abide by the ceasefire. But they have also strongly criticised the | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
plans to attack JFS, this could be one of the key flaws that leads to | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
the ceasefire's downfall. JFS was not established to fight | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
anyone except the Assad regime and whoever allies with him. Who are the | :06:40. | :06:45. | |
terrorists? Hezbollah and the PKK both terrorist organisations, | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
according to the US, and they are actively and opening fighting in | :06:50. | :06:54. | |
Syria, why are they not targeted For now the ceasefire appears to be | :06:55. | :06:59. | |
holding but for many in city like Aleppo, a temporary peace is not | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
enough. My wife told me that after sunset we | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
will go out, because it is a ceasefire. Now we are able to, I can | :07:08. | :07:13. | |
go with you and our daughter without being afraid, or scared about, a bit | :07:14. | :07:19. | |
of life, but in general, we want better, we want, what we want, it is | :07:20. | :07:25. | |
freedom, OK, to remove Assad. Families tonight have some respite | :07:26. | :07:27. | |
from the bombs but for how long? What happens in rebel held parts of | :07:28. | :07:36. | |
Syria when hospital doctors are under constant pressure from | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
bombing, lack of equipment, and even lack of experience. Well, in Aleppo, | :07:40. | :07:45. | |
they call for David knot, the British doctor who specialises in | :07:46. | :07:48. | |
emergency scare in war zones and training doctors under fire, this | :07:49. | :07:54. | |
week, however, he lent a hand remotely, advising in an operation | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
via Skype. John Sweeney was there as he oversaw the reconstruction of a | :08:00. | :08:06. | |
man's jaw after an attack. Under ground and under siege. A rare | :08:07. | :08:12. | |
glimpse into an operating theatre in Aleppo. Hollywood doesn't do the | :08:13. | :08:16. | |
reality of war, so this is what it looks like. When a man has his jaw | :08:17. | :08:23. | |
blown off. In rebel held Syria, being a doctor is a dangerous game. | :08:24. | :08:29. | |
754 doctors have been actively killed in the north of Syria, since | :08:30. | :08:35. | |
the conflict started in 2011, and it suggested that being a medic or even | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
a patient in a hospital is probably the worst place you possibly can be | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
in, because hospitals are targeted constantly, doctors are targeted | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
constantly. Mohammed was hit they say by a Russian bomb which also | :08:49. | :08:54. | |
killed two of his friends. They have never done a jaw reconstruction | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
before, but if they don't, the chances for this father of three are | :08:59. | :09:04. | |
slim. David Knot is a London surgeon who went to Aleppo two years ago to | :09:05. | :09:09. | |
train surgeon, now they have asked him to direct the jaw operation via | :09:10. | :09:15. | |
Skype and what's app. How exciting is this? It is one of the most | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
exciting things I have done. Being able to direct surgeons who are I | :09:22. | :09:24. | |
have trained, I have trained them when I was this in Syria, they know | :09:25. | :09:27. | |
me and they have confidence in me that I know them, I have confidence | :09:28. | :09:32. | |
in them, I know what they can do, sow between the two of us, we can do | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
this operation. -- so. We believe this is a world | :09:36. | :09:43. | |
first. A selfie stick being used to transport an eminent London surgeon | :09:44. | :09:46. | |
into a basement hospital in a besieged city. I want you to take an | :09:47. | :09:54. | |
incision which goes to take the whole of the major muscle, so I want | :09:55. | :10:03. | |
you to make an incision, laterally, below the laterally below the | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
nipple, to start to mobilise the major muscle. OK? | :10:09. | :10:19. | |
What about the nipple. I make two flaps and mobilise. That is fine. | :10:20. | :10:28. | |
The challenge is that the doctors are young and enthusiastic but they | :10:29. | :10:32. | |
are inexperienced. David Knot, he knows what he is doing, and the two | :10:33. | :10:38. | |
sets of doctors are connecting with the latest in our amazing digital | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
technology, but of course batteries go down. The line drops out. It is | :10:44. | :10:51. | |
difficult, but nevertheless the two sets of doctors are breaking the | :10:52. | :10:55. | |
siege of Aleppo. There is a small problem here. OK. | :10:56. | :11:05. | |
We can't put two screws... The doctors solve their problem then | :11:06. | :11:08. | |
David explained to me the complexity of the operation. This is the | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
muscle, and this is the muscle which has an artery comes off just below | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
the collarbone, so we preserve that artery, to this muscle, we have put | :11:19. | :11:22. | |
an area of skin on here as well, so we are going to move that right up | :11:23. | :11:27. | |
into the man's jaw, and we are going to put it underneath the metal plate | :11:28. | :11:32. | |
and then the skin goes over the top, so the skin will come here, and the | :11:33. | :11:36. | |
muscle will cover the plate. So you won't know when you look at him he | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
has a plate in his mouth? Correct. You have done a wonderful job today. | :11:42. | :11:49. | |
Thanks to you. How good as Dr Knot been in terms of helping you do this | :11:50. | :11:55. | |
operation? How valuable has been his help, is the question? We are very | :11:56. | :12:02. | |
thankful for Dr Knot, because it's a very difficult and complex | :12:03. | :12:13. | |
operation. We can't do it alone. We need some help, and we can't go | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
outside of Aleppo. We must do it here. This was never about just | :12:18. | :12:23. | |
saving the life of one man. Now that the doctors in Aleppo know the | :12:24. | :12:27. | |
technique, they can operate on other patients. But it is also about | :12:28. | :12:32. | |
reminding them and their patients, that the world has not quite | :12:33. | :12:34. | |
forgotten Aleppo. Joining me now from Washington | :12:35. | :12:40. | |
DC is Farah al Atassi, a spokeswoman for | :12:41. | :12:42. | |
the Syrian opposition Good evening to you. Can we talk | :12:43. | :12:52. | |
about what you make of the ceasefire, do you think the deal is | :12:53. | :13:01. | |
a good one? First of all, they did not receive an official copy of the | :13:02. | :13:07. | |
US-Russian agreement yet, we cannot comment on it in an official way, we | :13:08. | :13:12. | |
need a copy of this agreement so we can analyse it, we can discuss any | :13:13. | :13:17. | |
defaults, in terms of enforcement measurements and then we can give an | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
official statement and response about how do we view this agreement? | :13:23. | :13:27. | |
However, from previous agreements between the Russian and the | :13:28. | :13:34. | |
American, the HNC and other Syrian opposition group responds positively | :13:35. | :13:37. | |
towards any international efforts that will really halt violence in | :13:38. | :13:42. | |
Syria, particularly putting pressure on the Assad regime and his allies | :13:43. | :13:50. | |
in stopping the bombardment and air strikes against civilian targets, | :13:51. | :13:54. | |
including the Russians themselves, so if this agreement really enforced | :13:55. | :13:57. | |
fully by the regime, absolutely we welcome it. And we saw you, images | :13:58. | :14:05. | |
of children out playing on swings tonight, just the inStans youly | :14:06. | :14:09. | |
different feeling they have -- instantaneously feeling they have, I | :14:10. | :14:14. | |
wonder what you think will be the progress of this, what do you think | :14:15. | :14:21. | |
the Russians intention is? As I said, from previous experience of | :14:22. | :14:24. | |
prior agreements between the Russians and the American, it was | :14:25. | :14:28. | |
the Russians who breached the agreements they made themselves, | :14:29. | :14:34. | |
even the day after the agreement was announced, the Russian conducted an | :14:35. | :14:40. | |
air strikes on the suburb of Idlib, and we have around 15 Syrian | :14:41. | :14:46. | |
civilians were killed in that by the Russians themselves, so I said it is | :14:47. | :14:49. | |
premature to assess how this agreement will be workable on the | :14:50. | :14:54. | |
ground, we hope it is will workable on the ground, we we pray it will be | :14:55. | :14:58. | |
workable on the ground, even secretary Carey -- Kerry today he | :14:59. | :15:04. | |
raised some suspicions and he said it might not work well, but we have | :15:05. | :15:10. | |
to wait, just, we need to see how the regime will abide with this | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
agreement, the Armed Forces they always welcomed the channel of the | :15:16. | :15:19. | |
humanitarian aid, and they say they are ready to protect the channel of | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
the humanitarian aid, and they will reflect positively towards this. | :15:25. | :15:29. | |
Earlier in the programme we had a representative of the former Nusra | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
front JFS on the programme, saying that actually because they were very | :15:34. | :15:36. | |
much in the forefront of in the battle for 11 and that I are as it | :15:37. | :15:41. | |
were embedded in different napes and so forth, that the idea of | :15:42. | :15:46. | |
separating them out as a legitimate target, as opposed to moderate | :15:47. | :15:49. | |
opposition is impossible. What do you say to that? I am not a military | :15:50. | :15:59. | |
expert. I can comment on political issue, however, gee graph Che and | :16:00. | :16:03. | |
strategically that statement is true. And realistic because it is so | :16:04. | :16:10. | |
hard to really isolate the civilians places because a lot of this places | :16:11. | :16:15. | |
and areas are besieged by the Syrian regime and Iranian militia, so you | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
cannot really recognise the Free Syrian Army from other armed, you | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
know, maybe for fanatic groups so they are somehow, it is intertwined, | :16:27. | :16:32. | |
that is why we read today a statement by most of the military | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
armed groups on the ground, an article number eight, they are | :16:38. | :16:44. | |
saying clearly that the agreement excludes some forces from the | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
agreement, however, they did not talk about other militia fighting, | :16:49. | :16:54. | |
or militia fighting beside the regime, like Hezbollah, like... | :16:55. | :17:01. | |
All of these forces are on the ground and all of them are | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
intertwined. Thank you for joining us tonight. | :17:08. | :17:09. | |
Now if you caught Newsnight pretty much any night last week you'll know | :17:10. | :17:12. | |
we have taken a keen interest in the progress - or lack of it - | :17:13. | :17:16. | |
of a report by MPs into the use of UK arms by Saudi Arabia | :17:17. | :17:19. | |
Last Tuesday, Gabriel Gatehouse obtained a draft of the report | :17:20. | :17:22. | |
which was highly critical of the Saudis. | :17:23. | :17:24. | |
It found that it was "inevitable" that British weapons had been | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
involved in violations of international law and that arms | :17:28. | :17:31. | |
sales to Saudi were "very possibly in contravention | :17:32. | :17:34. | |
The report called for arms sales to Saudi Arabia | :17:35. | :17:43. | |
But some MPs had other ideas - a second leak revealed how two | :17:44. | :17:47. | |
pro-Saudi MPs were attempting to water down the report. | :17:48. | :17:50. | |
Here's how the report would change if amendments tabled by John Spellar | :17:51. | :17:55. | |
and Crispin Blunt, the influential chair of the Foreign Affairs | :17:56. | :17:57. | |
Last Thursday Blunt came on Newsnight to explain why | :17:58. | :18:05. | |
I also asked him if he'd walked out of the committee to freeze its work | :18:06. | :18:15. | |
That portrays a misunderstanding of how this particular... | :18:16. | :18:28. | |
...collection of four committee's works. | :18:29. | :18:30. | |
Whatever comes out of this particular, of the oversight of arms | :18:31. | :18:36. | |
Did you walk out last night, Crispin Blunt? | :18:37. | :18:39. | |
I am not going to talk about a committee process | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
over the lengths Blunt has gone to in order to - | :18:44. | :18:54. | |
Yes, Crispin Blunt is not giving up. He has provided a new report and | :18:55. | :19:10. | |
essentially his acknowledging he will not get the numbers he wants to | :19:11. | :19:14. | |
soften the criticisms of Saudi Arabia and pull back on a ban on | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
arms sales to the kingdom. He is writing what he is describing as an | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
alternative report and he is planning to put that to the | :19:23. | :19:26. | |
committee he chairs, the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, tomorrow | :19:27. | :19:28. | |
afternoon, and he will essentially say to the members of that | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
committee, let's agree to this and tack it onto the end of the report | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
when he is not going to get his way. He may get it just about past his | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
committee but he certainly will not get unanimous agreement for that. | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
And that is not all he is talking about? He says the arms committee, | :19:47. | :19:52. | |
which has defence, foreign affairs, International affairs and the | :19:53. | :19:55. | |
business committee is not working, and he says there should be one | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
select committee that does that work... His? No, he is a senseless | :20:00. | :20:08. | |
chap, he says it should be a new committee. Now, the members of that | :20:09. | :20:12. | |
committee may think the most important thing is to look at the | :20:13. | :20:15. | |
number of exports, rather than ethical questions about arms sales | :20:16. | :20:19. | |
to Saudi Arabia. This evening I spoke to Crispin Blunt and this is | :20:20. | :20:22. | |
what he told me. I have no comment on the private | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
proceeding of my committee or other select committees. When we are in a | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
position to say something publicly then of course I'd be happy to do | :20:33. | :20:35. | |
so. Nick, thank you. | :20:36. | :20:38. | |
How big a deal to American voters is Hilary Clinton's bout | :20:39. | :20:41. | |
of "walking pneumonia", - in other words a mild | :20:42. | :20:43. | |
Donald Trump speaking this morning on Fox News said he hopes | :20:44. | :20:46. | |
the Democrat candidate gets well soon, and then immediately announced | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
he that was going to release his own medical records. | :20:50. | :20:51. | |
Health, he says, is an issue in the campaign, and he'll be | :20:52. | :20:54. | |
releasing what he calls "very specific numbers". | :20:55. | :20:56. | |
So everything, it seems, is fair game | :20:57. | :20:57. | |
Will Hillary be accused of hiding her health history - | :20:58. | :21:05. | |
diagnosed on Friday, forced to reveal it on Sunday | :21:06. | :21:08. | |
Here is Emily. This is the Hillary she wants you to | :21:09. | :21:19. | |
know, the fighter, the woman of strength. And this is the Hillary | :21:20. | :21:24. | |
you will have seen a lot of today, played silently on a loop. The woozy | :21:25. | :21:29. | |
wobble as she struggles to stay upright, even losing issue as she | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
crumples into the car. The decision from the campaign to attract Hillary | :21:35. | :21:40. | |
from the 9/11 memorial service without telling any reporters for | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
about 90 minutes was incredibly short-sighted and foolish, given | :21:46. | :21:48. | |
that there were all these conspiracy theories already swirling about her | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
health. Her emergency exit from the memorial service was followed by 90 | :21:54. | :21:56. | |
minutes where nobody knew what to think. Unexpectedly left early | :21:57. | :22:05. | |
because of what appears to be a medical episode... And then the | :22:06. | :22:08. | |
revelation she had been diagnosed two days earlier with pneumonia. | :22:09. | :22:15. | |
We're breaking news on Hillary Clinton's health. Something which | :22:16. | :22:18. | |
seemed retrospectively to explain this. A Cleveland coughing fit, | :22:19. | :22:26. | |
rescued at the 11th hour with a stab at a joke. Every time I think about | :22:27. | :22:37. | |
Trump, I get a coughing fit. Was this cover-up a mistake? The press | :22:38. | :22:53. | |
does not like people's privacy but... Here is the man you might | :22:54. | :23:00. | |
remember from this moment, the Iowa caucus of 2004. The screen that | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
spells the sound of his own presidential hopes slipping away. | :23:05. | :23:07. | |
The whole thing did not slip away from a because of the I have a | :23:08. | :23:12. | |
scream speech, the whole thing slipped away because we were not | :23:13. | :23:15. | |
organised. This is not slipping away from Hillary Clinton, it is not | :23:16. | :23:20. | |
going to slip away from Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton will be the | :23:21. | :23:25. | |
next president of the United States because the alternative is | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
unthinkable. Unthinkable to Democrats but the whole thing will | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
give credence to something of a trump conspiracy, that Hillary was | :23:35. | :23:40. | |
too ill to stand. This evening he revealed his own medical records | :23:41. | :23:46. | |
live on TV. I took a physical and I will be revealing the numbers when | :23:47. | :23:49. | |
they come in. Hopefully they will be good, I feel great. Clinton will | :23:50. | :23:57. | |
miss a couple of days of campaigning to rest. Somewhere lurks the | :23:58. | :24:04. | |
question they cannot ask, her constitutional contingency plan if | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
the nominee herself cannot stand. Tisbury difficult in the United | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
States whereby presidents and presidential candidates have an | :24:14. | :24:16. | |
existence which is separated from the party because it is a | :24:17. | :24:20. | |
presidential system rather than a parliamentary system. We have not | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
had such close to horse race for some time so the sound as people | :24:25. | :24:27. | |
would claim that Bernie had a legitimate right to be on the | :24:28. | :24:35. | |
ticket, even if only as a vice president running mate because Kane | :24:36. | :24:41. | |
would have to nominate someone and how would it have to be approved? It | :24:42. | :24:47. | |
would have to be done by some sort of process approved by the | :24:48. | :24:52. | |
Democratic National committee. Clinton has seen something of a | :24:53. | :24:55. | |
narrowing in the polls in recent days. She is still ahead nationally | :24:56. | :24:59. | |
and in most of the battle ground states. Convincing the public she is | :25:00. | :25:05. | |
fit might be the work of antibiotics and a few days in bed. But | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
convincing the public she has nothing to hide, that is a battle | :25:11. | :25:14. | |
she has been fighting for two and a half decades and it probably will | :25:15. | :25:17. | |
not disappear when the cough does. Tina Brown is the former editor | :25:18. | :25:23. | |
of Vanity Fair, The New Yorker, I asked her if Hillary had done | :25:24. | :25:35. | |
damage by being secretive? Does question about who she has done | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
damage with. Politically it gives rise to another round of lack of | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
transparency. Why didn't she reveal it before? With the public, I am not | :25:45. | :25:50. | |
so sure. I think there will be a lot of sympathy for a woman who has been | :25:51. | :25:55. | |
brutally pummelled from one whole year on the campaign trail. And when | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
people learn she was diagnosed Friday and yet she went on and did | :26:00. | :26:03. | |
it to our national security meeting, she went to Barbra Streisand | :26:04. | :26:06. | |
fundraiser, she did another fundraiser, she went to the 9/11 | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
event, she was trying to soldier on. In many ways people will say this | :26:12. | :26:16. | |
woman is valiant and why is everybody on her case? Howard Dean | :26:17. | :26:20. | |
said to us, why doesn't she just do things on Skype? Why does she use | :26:21. | :26:26. | |
social media more? Why does she have to be ever present? On the other | :26:27. | :26:33. | |
hand, a whole bunch of people on CNN were saying why didn't she go to | :26:34. | :26:38. | |
talk to people more, why was she raising money in the Hamptons in | :26:39. | :26:40. | |
August when she could have done stuff like this? I think Hillary | :26:41. | :26:45. | |
does feel that connecting with real people and hearing what they have to | :26:46. | :26:52. | |
say is as important to her as them talking -- is heard talking to them. | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
That is why she goes out on the trail will stop does this matter to | :26:58. | :27:02. | |
the voters? If she becomes ill again, does this build a picture? It | :27:03. | :27:09. | |
does, unfortunately. Only 35% of Americans polled by CNN in the last | :27:10. | :27:14. | |
poll said they thought she was honest or trustworthy. 50% amazingly | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
think Trump is honest or trustworthy. It is not a great | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
figure for either of them but it is remarkable because pretty much | :27:24. | :27:26. | |
everything comes out of Donald Trump is that mouth is fallacious and he | :27:27. | :27:30. | |
has a higher trust rating than Hillary Clinton. Only 80% think what | :27:31. | :27:35. | |
Trump says is true whereas 50% is true. It is a very difficult thing | :27:36. | :27:44. | |
for her. And unfortunately this has taken root. What have we come to | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
where we will have the disclosure of Donald Trump's medical records which | :27:49. | :27:53. | |
will be very specific and detailed, and actually, to run as a | :27:54. | :27:57. | |
presidential candidate, you have to have full health disclosure? What is | :27:58. | :28:03. | |
amusing with Donald Trump is he did one disclosure but it was by a | :28:04. | :28:09. | |
giggling gastroenterologist who said his health was unbelievably terrific | :28:10. | :28:13. | |
or awesomely amazing or some unlikely adjective. But | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
unfortunately, yes, everyone will basically have to reveal how much | :28:18. | :28:21. | |
under an head they have for the public scrutiny and be told that is | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
relevant. It is absolutely grotesque. It has become the most | :28:26. | :28:31. | |
brutal gladiatorial blood fest. If she is feeling ill right now, who | :28:32. | :28:38. | |
can blame her? Does seem strange. Roosevelt was in a wheelchair, it | :28:39. | :28:44. | |
did not make him a lesser president. People make judgments and here we | :28:45. | :28:47. | |
are in the middle of the Paralympics. I could not agree more. | :28:48. | :28:52. | |
The one thing you could not accuse Hillary Clinton of is lack of | :28:53. | :28:57. | |
stamina. The woman is an unbelievable Sherman tank in energy. | :28:58. | :29:01. | |
She wore down Obama to the bone crisp in the last election. She went | :29:02. | :29:05. | |
to the bitter end. And then she turned around having lost, and did | :29:06. | :29:11. | |
250 fundraisers for Obama without so much as a weekend. To use the | :29:12. | :29:17. | |
stamina point with Hillary is. You may dislike her but she can out run | :29:18. | :29:22. | |
anyone. And should age be an issue at all? In this moment, I did think | :29:23. | :29:29. | |
either of the candidates really are old to run for president because we | :29:30. | :29:34. | |
live in a different era. Trump is 70 and Hillary is 68. They are both | :29:35. | :29:38. | |
getting up there. We have had a much younger president in Obama but we | :29:39. | :29:42. | |
have also had all the presidents with Reagan. I think in this era, | :29:43. | :29:47. | |
this age is not too old to run for president but I think it is | :29:48. | :29:51. | |
enormously the key game and you cannot do it without very good | :29:52. | :29:55. | |
health. I think Hillary's health is fine. She's very exhausted now and | :29:56. | :30:00. | |
she has had this cough which has plagued her and has perhaps been | :30:01. | :30:03. | |
wrongly diagnosed. I do know. That is the point we're most interested | :30:04. | :30:07. | |
in. Tina Brown, thank you for joining us. | :30:08. | :30:10. | |
Ron Christie is CEO of Christie Strategies | :30:11. | :30:11. | |
which is a political strategy firm and he is a former senior | :30:12. | :30:14. | |
Good evening, first of all, is Donald Trump right to make hay out | :30:15. | :30:22. | |
of Hillary Clinton's health scare? I don't think so, I think this is the | :30:23. | :30:27. | |
time where you look at the former Secretary of State and you say you | :30:28. | :30:31. | |
wish her well, you want the see her back on the campaign trail. Mr Trump | :30:32. | :30:35. | |
was very subdued talking art her health today, that is where it | :30:36. | :30:39. | |
should be. He was subdued at fist but he announced he would be | :30:40. | :30:43. | |
releasing his very specific medical records, he said and apparently he | :30:44. | :30:47. | |
will be doing it live on television. So he is making a deal out of it. | :30:48. | :30:55. | |
Well, with Donald Trump seefrmgs to be reality TV show, he said he had | :30:56. | :30:59. | |
his physical taken last week, it shows he has a physical because the | :31:00. | :31:04. | |
Secretary of State had her incident yet, it is very important for the | :31:05. | :31:07. | |
American people to understand the health of their next President of | :31:08. | :31:10. | |
the United States, and to ascertain whether north they have the stamina, | :31:11. | :31:13. | |
they have the Fitzpatrick #k58 ability to do the job. -- physical | :31:14. | :31:16. | |
ability to do the job. I can tell you it is gruelling at the staff | :31:17. | :31:20. | |
level, it is more brutal for the President and the Vice President. | :31:21. | :31:25. | |
You heard Tina Brown saying Hillary Clinton has the stamina of a Sherman | :31:26. | :31:30. | |
tank, she did fund-raisers for Barack Obama, do you think there are | :31:31. | :31:35. | |
doubts about her staying power if she were to become President, | :31:36. | :31:39. | |
really? Yes, really. I am very worried about her health, she has | :31:40. | :31:43. | |
not been very healthy this year, she is the first one to tell you that, | :31:44. | :31:47. | |
the Secretary of State needs to come out and this is one of the reasons I | :31:48. | :31:52. | |
think her disapproval numbers are so high, her trustworthiness numbers | :31:53. | :31:55. | |
are so low, with the Clintons it is a drip, drip, drip. As a former | :31:56. | :32:01. | |
Obama, the Obama administration official said set it out there, | :32:02. | :32:04. | |
level with the American people, say here is my health condition, here is | :32:05. | :32:08. | |
how I am feeling, I am feeling great. Put it behind her, the longer | :32:09. | :32:12. | |
it takes for the Secretary of State to come out with her medical | :32:13. | :32:16. | |
condition the ling doubts Americans have. Interestingly, what is the | :32:17. | :32:21. | |
hierarchy of health is this we know there is lots of American have for | :32:22. | :32:28. | |
example die Beattie, if Donald Trump was, to have that, do you think | :32:29. | :32:33. | |
there would be a problem as it affects so much of the population | :32:34. | :32:40. | |
She has a diagnosis of pneumonia, I almost died of pneumonia, I was out | :32:41. | :32:46. | |
for several months in his 20, if I almost died in my 20, you have a | :32:47. | :32:53. | |
68-year-old candidate who has been campaigning rerentlessly, people | :32:54. | :32:55. | |
need to know the extent of what type she had and whether she is on the | :32:56. | :32:58. | |
mend. I would say one other thing, given the fact she was here at | :32:59. | :33:02. | |
Ground Zero yesterday, she was shaking hands with people, kissing | :33:03. | :33:07. | |
baby, it is a extraordinarily contagious disease, if she had | :33:08. | :33:11. | |
pneumonia why would she put people at risk? That is the question people | :33:12. | :33:15. | |
want to know. Thank you very much for joining us. | :33:16. | :33:16. | |
Bake Off, a British phenomenon, and a show that delivered the BBC | :33:17. | :33:22. | |
10 million viewers on BBC One, is going to Channel Four. | :33:23. | :33:25. | |
Will there be no more Mary and Paul, Mel and Sue on the Beeb? | :33:26. | :33:28. | |
Love Productions, who make the programme for BBC, | :33:29. | :33:30. | |
said that it is with regret that they have been unable | :33:31. | :33:33. | |
to reach agreement on terms to renew the commission. | :33:34. | :33:35. | |
So what will happen to a show which built up from a low audience | :33:36. | :33:38. | |
on BBC Two six years ago to a raging success, and made Mary Berry | :33:39. | :33:42. | |
and Paul Hollywood, and the most recent winner, | :33:43. | :33:44. | |
Will Bake Off rise once more on Channel Four | :33:45. | :33:47. | |
And is that the kind of fare Channel Four was set up to deliver? | :33:48. | :33:52. | |
Here's our resident baker's boy Stephen Smith. | :33:53. | :34:05. | |
Bake Off is the jewel in the crown of the BBC's schedules, | :34:06. | :34:08. | |
or at least the glazed sultana in Auntie's Chelsea bun. | :34:09. | :34:19. | |
This is your chance to get your dough prodded | :34:20. | :34:21. | |
It is perfect comfort telly with its recipe | :34:22. | :34:30. | |
of mildly salty banter, and 1950s WI resourcefulness. | :34:31. | :34:32. | |
Carry On meets "Keep calm and carry on." | :34:33. | :34:35. | |
It generates 10 million viewers a week and it is prime content. | :34:36. | :34:49. | |
The BBC played a big role in helping that success. | :34:50. | :34:51. | |
There is no question it is a blow to them. | :34:52. | :34:53. | |
But I think there was an air of inevitability of bout it | :34:54. | :34:56. | |
because as the price for premium content gets higher and higher, | :34:57. | :34:59. | |
with increased competition with the likes of Amazon, Netflix, | :35:00. | :35:02. | |
ITV, Sky and Channel 4 in the mix, it will become harder | :35:03. | :35:04. | |
and harder for the BBC to bid for these types of rights. | :35:05. | :35:11. | |
From modest beginnings on this channel, Bake Off has made stars | :35:12. | :35:22. | |
But the BBC said tonight it was a considerable distance apart | :35:23. | :35:25. | |
from the programme makers Love Productions over money. | :35:26. | :35:34. | |
That is a scrapbook of our careers from the very beginning. | :35:35. | :35:42. | |
All the nice things that people said about us? | :35:43. | :35:44. | |
What about the nasty things people said about us? | :35:45. | :35:47. | |
It is an ancient piece of showbiz wisdom known as Chiles' law, | :35:48. | :35:52. | |
that popular presenters jump ship from the Beeb at their peril. | :35:53. | :35:55. | |
A plane carrying 15 tonnes of rhubarb. | :35:56. | :35:56. | |
Eric and Ernie were never the same on commercial TV. | :35:57. | :36:11. | |
The BBC will back themselves to create another great hit | :36:12. | :36:13. | |
like Bake Off, or at least to be part of creating this | :36:14. | :36:16. | |
great successful show, and really that is the BBC's remit, | :36:17. | :36:18. | |
and at a time when there is such scrutiny on its charter, | :36:19. | :36:21. | |
with the new draft charter being published on Thursday | :36:22. | :36:23. | |
by the Government, it knows really that it has to prove | :36:24. | :36:26. | |
that it is distinctive and coming up with new content. | :36:27. | :36:38. | |
So you'll still be able to enjoy a version of this programme | :36:39. | :36:41. | |
on another channel somewhere up the dial, but for the BBC, | :36:42. | :36:43. | |
Here tonight is Lorraine Heggessey, former controller of BBC One and | :36:44. | :36:49. | |
head of the TV production company Talkback Thames. | :36:50. | :36:57. | |
First of all, we understand that it is three, three series and it could | :36:58. | :37:04. | |
be 25 million a series, more than double what the BBC, should the BBC | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
have paid up? They couldn't pay up, they haven't got enough money to pay | :37:10. | :37:13. | |
up, probe, they had to decide where to draw a line, I think this is one | :37:14. | :37:18. | |
of the issues that the BBC faces, because commercial broadcasts can go | :37:19. | :37:22. | |
for value pricinger the more successful a show is, the more | :37:23. | :37:25. | |
advertising ref few, the more they can afford to pay. Of course on | :37:26. | :37:30. | |
Channel 4 they can do all sorts of product placement that I can. They | :37:31. | :37:36. | |
can commercially exploit the programme than perhaps you can on | :37:37. | :37:39. | |
the BBC where there are lots of rules. Will it be, we don't know | :37:40. | :37:44. | |
anything yet, can it be the great British Bake Off? Let me just tell | :37:45. | :37:50. | |
you what Channel 4, you will know this well was charged with, | :37:51. | :37:56. | |
innovative, experiment and and distinctive so you nick a BBC | :37:57. | :38:00. | |
success hit to be innovative and experimental? Well, obviously | :38:01. | :38:03. | |
Channel 4 has to fight for its place as well, and my understanding is | :38:04. | :38:08. | |
that talks broke down between the BBC and Love Productions. At 3.00, | :38:09. | :38:14. | |
they signed with Channel 4 at seven. A coincidence! In my day there were | :38:15. | :38:19. | |
often tough negotiations over programme budgets, over budget for | :38:20. | :38:22. | |
talent, but in the end there was an unwritten rule you did not walk away | :38:23. | :38:26. | |
and take your show somewhere else. Now, you have got a plethora of | :38:27. | :38:31. | |
channel, you have Jeremy Clarkson about to be on Amazon, you have Sky | :38:32. | :38:36. | |
owning Love Productions. Before we knew it was going to Channel 4, I | :38:37. | :38:41. | |
thought it more likely it would go to ITV because with the amount of | :38:42. | :38:45. | |
audience it get, which is much more than Channel 4 gets for any show, so | :38:46. | :38:49. | |
normally you would escalate up the change, if you see what I mean. | :38:50. | :38:52. | |
There is no doubt that ITV is looking for a baking show but it | :38:53. | :38:56. | |
didn't offer for the show. Or they wanted the show knowing that the | :38:57. | :38:59. | |
talent was signed up, and my understanding is the talent isn't | :39:00. | :39:03. | |
signed up, and maybe Channel 4's prepared to take the risk of not | :39:04. | :39:07. | |
having the talent. Why not do a completely new baking show with | :39:08. | :39:10. | |
their own talent and leave The Great British Bake Off on BBC? It sounds | :39:11. | :39:14. | |
like Love Productions were going to go any way, that is the thing, that | :39:15. | :39:18. | |
is what worries me really, because the BBC has invested a huge amount | :39:19. | :39:22. | |
of license fee payer's money in growing this show, and you know, no | :39:23. | :39:27. | |
one person is ever responsible for a show, the Commissioner, the | :39:28. | :39:31. | |
controller, the talent, the writer, everybody contributes to making it a | :39:32. | :39:35. | |
success, and one of the advantages that the BBC has over other channels | :39:36. | :39:39. | |
is they have BBC Two, which gets a substantial audience, but is a much | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
coastier place if you like, a safer place, to grow a show, so this show, | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
they took the risk on it on a new format, who thought that baking | :39:49. | :39:51. | |
cakes would become a prime time success? It wasn't a done deal, and | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
then they agree it on BBC Two, they moved it to BBC One, they further | :39:57. | :40:00. | |
expanded it with Comic Relief and the spin off show. So the BBC has | :40:01. | :40:04. | |
just got to be a place to nurture things and it might go out to other | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
channel, because what... But that is dangerous for the BBC, isn't it, | :40:09. | :40:12. | |
because the BBC has to have a mixed ecology, you can't only be | :40:13. | :40:15. | |
experimenting with shows that haven't yet grown an audience, you | :40:16. | :40:18. | |
need the shows that have the audience to bring to the shows. But | :40:19. | :40:24. | |
tell me, you know, how does this deal for public service | :40:25. | :40:26. | |
broadcasting? Channel 4 possibly will be privatised. Surely they will | :40:27. | :40:33. | |
slap wads of money down. Maybe it was worried it would go ITV and that | :40:34. | :40:42. | |
would put it as a come petstive disadvantage, because -- competitive | :40:43. | :40:47. | |
disadvantage. There may be be a new show on the BBC? Will it? Will it | :40:48. | :40:54. | |
ever be as good as Bake Off, will it be as good on Channel 4? There is | :40:55. | :41:01. | |
something BBC about it, middle England, middle class, quite nice | :41:02. | :41:04. | |
and Channel 4 has usually, a lot more edge. Thank you. | :41:05. | :41:10. | |
That it is for tonight. The day David Cameron announced he is | :41:11. | :41:13. | |
leaving Parliament it was reported that George Osborne's constituency | :41:14. | :41:16. | |
is to disappear at the next election. | :41:17. | :41:19. | |
We'll always remember them as impossibly young backbenchers, | :41:20. | :41:21. | |
together orchestrating Michael Howard's PMQs. | :41:22. | :41:22. | |
Do you think you've got a killer blow? | :41:23. | :41:26. | |
It is something that is in the news and is very current, | :41:27. | :41:32. | |
and affects lots of people and is something that we actually | :41:33. | :41:34. | |
believe in terms of police paperwork, | :41:35. | :41:36. | |
Hello, many parts of the United Kingdom are turning unusually warm | :41:37. | :42:13. | |
to hot for the time of year. That is away from the weather front to the | :42:14. | :42:16. | |
west, especially for Northern Ireland and western Scot. You won't | :42:17. | :42:20. | |
see that bump in temperatures that other parts of the UK are going | :42:21. | :42:22. |