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Battleground Britain Special

Analysis of the stories behind the day's headlines with Evan Davis. We are out of the studio and in three very different constituencies. What do the voters actually care about?

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It's not true of course, but sure as hell a lot of it is,


and in this election the outcome will be determined in different


So tonight we are out and about in battleground Britain.


Three constituencies each chosen for a special reason,


This is Bishop Auckland, the beautiful market


town in County Durham, in the election battleground


I'm 200 miles south in the Conservative seat


The heart of a town lies in its people.


We're taking that to heart, and we'll be speaking


Scotland is a very different battle ground indeed.


We'll hear why this seat of Berwickshire is important,


I'm standing outside the town hall, with 30 days


It's easy to watch our programme, or any other, and to get


the impression that an election is just a contest fought


between party leaders on a national stage.


Certainly it felt like that today with Theresa May and husband Philip


on the One Show sofa and Jeremy Corbyn


But we are going to ignore both of those stories tonight -


because for good or ill, we have a voting system that


also makes our election 650 local contests.


Each seat has its own candidates, its own local parties,


And with national party loyalties in an elasticated


state at the moment, local action is often where it's at.


So tonight we've ditched the studio and have come out


We are in three ordinary constituencies, chosen


because the way their voters turn on June the 8th could help deliver


three very different futures for Britain.


A little later in the programme, we'll be off to the Conservative


The seat is number 50 on Labour's target list,


and we're dropping in to look at the Labour in power scenario.


If Labour can win Stevenage, they are probably the largest


It's a London commuter belt town, but it's a long way


And the Tories were 5000 votes ahead last time.


But the constituency voted Labour throughout the Blair heydays.


We'll also visit the Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk constituency


This is an SNP seat, but is number three on the Tories' UK target list.


A comfortable Tory victory there takes us to the Conservative


consolidation outcome, a modest increase in


A rural seat, it spans a large portion of south-east of Scotland.


Most voters here backed unionist parties last time.


Will that help the Tories take it, and signify a resurgence


But our first stop is here in Bishop Auckland.


A Labour seat now, this is number 46 on the Tory target list,


and a win would suggest we're looking at the Tory landslide


scenario, with a majority of around 100.


This has a long history, but its economy has been shaped


by the rise and fall of the coal mines here.


Today, the Conservatives need a 4.5% swing from Labour to clinch it.


They came within 328 votes of winning it last time.


Well, with me here is our political editor, Nick Watt.


Nick, we're here because if the Conservatives can win


in seats like this then we'd expect them to be on course


for a landslide majority, and they would have stolen


significant ground from Labour on their home turf.


The polling experts have said that if the Conservatives win this seat,


they would have a majority of 100, and that is as you say landslide


territory. Some recent opinion polls have suggested we are heading that


way, the guardian ICM poll yesterday gave the Conservatives a 22 point


lead all the others say it is more narrow. But our pollsters were


cautious and suggested local election results last week implied a


swing from Labour to the Conservatives of 2.5%, and that


wouldn't really get you into a landslide, it would be a Tory


majority of 60, not bad, who would complain? But that is only ten above


the figures that ministers are saying would we make this early


election worthwhile. If we're talking about this scenario today,


what would the impact of that B? It is something that our age group


would refer to as a Basildon moment, that moment in 1982 where it came


obvious that the Tories would get a fourth election victory. It has been


Labour since 1935 when Hugh Dalton recaptured it from the Liberals. He


was the Labour Chancellor who inadvertently leaked his budget in


1947, but after spending two Dacia, I would say the Tories have quite a


big hurdle to climb, which is entrenched Labour support even from


Labour voters who have doubts about Jeremy Corbyn, but there is a


reasonable Ukip vote here, and if that splits is the way opinion polls


show they will, maybe the Tories will get across the line. Thank you,


Nic. And Nick has spent the last couple


of days here in Bishop Auckland, testing the temperature of those


who live here and asking whether this town will stay Labour


or help give the Conservatives Medieval castles and grand houses


pepper the western half of the Bishop Auckland constituency. But


this is a parliamentary seat of two halves. As you head east into former


coal-mining areas, you see tell-tale signs of post-industrial decline.


There is real rapport poverty as well as urban poverty. Lots of


people struggling to make ends meet in their lives. So there is a lot of


the just about managing people do get talked about, and there are


those who go from one job to another, they are worried about


permanent and stability. Theresa May would dearly love to win this seat,


which has been in labour hands since 1935. The Prime Minister should have


little difficulty in picking up votes in the more prosperous parts


of the constituency. The hope will be that her central message about


championing ordinary working families will win over Labour and


Ukip voters in the more deprived areas. Success for the Tories,


buoyed by their victory in the nearby Tees Valley mayoral contest,


may depend in large part whether Labour voters are prepared to


support their leader. One lifelong supporter will be casting his ballot


the labour, but with little enthusiasm. He is too idle to shave,


and he's not right, he's not a Labour top man, I would say. He's


got to get himself sorted, because if not, we are going down the


Suwanee. His friend Danny isn't going to vote at all. Labour? No


backbone whatsoever. I would vote for Labour now. Labour will get it


around here no problem at all. But there is no leadership. So there are


strong doubts about Jeremy Corbyn in the Bishop Auckland Labour


heartlands, but head over to the leafy aside whether Tories can count


on strong support, and you can see signs of that Corbyn Fanclub. I


think the media are saying that Jeremy Corbyn is in very good. I


think he's a very good leader, and I think he stands his ground. I joined


the Labour Party to get him in. The contrasting views show that nothing


is straightforward about this seat, where the picture on the ground is


more nuanced than polling numbers would suggest. Apathy may be a


strong factor, and Bishop Auckland is no longer a straight Labour/ Tory


fight. Theresa May will only prevail if she can eat into 7000 Ukip votes.


Tell me why you wrote Ukip. Because immigration in this country is out


of control. Some people say that Ukip in a sense of done their job,


we are out of the EU. No, I don't agree. It's not job done, is it?


Half a job. Tories tend not to put their heads above the parapet in


Bishop Auckland. One mum of an aspiring ping-pong champion is full


of praise for Theresa May. I do like her, and coming from the feminist


point of view, I like that we've got a woman again. I think she's a


strong character, I like what she said about Brexit, and I think


probably a lot of people are thinking like that, they think she


is a strong leader and that helps the shift from Labour to Tory. I


don't think Labour have got a lot going for them at the moment. And


there are even Labour voters who praised the Prime Minister. I think


she's very strong. I think she won't take anything, she'll be a good


candidate and stand strong in terms of Brexit. But I don't believe in


the Conservative policies, really. If the Tories do win this seat, it


could well be remembered as a seismic moment in British politics.


It would be significant because it would say something about what was


happening across the nation as a whole, which might surprise people,


if this seat particularly went Conservative. In this overlooked


corner of north-east England, visitors would barely know an


election is under way. Many people told us they are simply


uninterested, and the greatest noise issue is not from election's


loud-hailers, but from one of England's most spectacular


waterfalls. Nic Watt there.


Arguably, the grand divide in England, exposed


by the referendum last year, was between big cities


like Manchester and London and secondary towns and cities that


tended to vote more enthusiastically for Brexit.


It's that factor that might or might not be reshaping the party


loyalties of seats we think of as naturally Labour or Tory.


Well, let's reflect on what's changing.


I am joined here in Bishop Auckland by James Wharton, former


He has been Conservative MP for Stockton South since May 2010.


And Chi Onwurah, Labour MP for Newcastle upon Tyne Central


since 2010 and a shadow Business Minister.


Good evening to you both. Chi first of all, what you think is happening


here among traditional Labour voters? Is there some sense of them


switching away? I think what we are seeing is we have Brexit divided the


country and divided northern voters as well, 58% of northern voters


voted to leave. The Conservative Party have taken on Ukip's language


and mantle is attracting them, but what I find on the doorstep, and we


have many fantastic candidates taking our message into the


communities, is that the Labour vote, the memory of the Tory


government and the cuts to public services combined with the fact that


people do not feel better off, people know that we are 10% on


average worse than when the Conservative first came into power,


that is still the message. Are you expecting to lose seats in the


north-east, though? We are fighting for every vote. That isn't what I


asked. The polls suggest that we may experience losses, but on the day


itself, I think people will remember what a Tory government means. What


is your experience, James Wharton? I would be surprised if we don't take


seat in the north-east, what is underlying that is where and when.


What do you think it is? I think a long time people voting in the


north-east were removed from those who represented them. Brexit is one


big reason, it highlighted that. Nearly all of the Labour MPs in this


region supported remain, and a lot of the Labour voters supported


leave, and there wasn't a voice for them, and they looked elsewhere.


What do you say, Chi, to Labour voters when they say, I might not


vote Labour or I don't like Jeremy Corbyn. What do you say? I say to


them, Labour voters who are thinking of switching to Tory, I say that if


in two years' time you will be lying at a -- lying awake at night out of


guilt will the Tories are doing to our schools, NHS and economy, and


your responsibility for that. And for James to say that our


candidates, our MPs, have not been rooted in their communities, when


the Tory party is full of people who can't even imagine what it is like


to take a bus, never mind to go to a food bank... Let James answer. I


have lived the north-east all my life. I have seen the complacency of


many of the Labour politicians and the reason. The big thing we face in


this country going forward, and people know this, is going to be


Brexit, getting the deal are going to that process, and there is a


choice in this election between Theresa May and her strong and


stable leadership... LAUGHTER


. Lets just ask about the pitch of the


north-east to your parties. It was the Tories who came up with this


Northern Powerhouse slogan, who seem to have a vision or ambition for the


North. You must feel terrible that Labour didn't talk about it in that


way for so long? Labour has always been rooted in the


industrial heartlands. Labour is for a resurgent industry and we know


what industry means, jobs, good quality jobs, making and building


things. The industrial strategy, you are Shadow Minister for industrial


strategy. What is it? Industrial strategy is to invest in our


transport, in innovation infrastructure, to invest in


communities and skills, for lifelong learning so we have the skilled


people to deliver the skilled jobs which mean higher wages and mean we


can compete internationally and globally. You were the Northern


Powerhouse minister until last summer. What has happened to that,


what is going on? Just last week we had the first mayor elected in the


north-east region. There are more in the north than anywhere else. And


with that comes significant devolution and new powers. Three


years ago George Osborne talked about high speed three. It was going


to be an east West think that would make northern cities more than the


sum of their parts. When is that going to be finished? You do not


finish a project on economic growth. When is it going to start? We have


seen devolution delivered in the Tees Valley. On every single train,


they will be replaced by 2022. These are big investment that had been


needed by -- nearly four years. Our economy can have workers moving


around thanks to our investment and we will set up the bank of the North


which will attract investment here and control that investment. Is it


your contention that the Northern Powerhouse is on track and being


delivered to the people of the North? I think it is. When you say


Northern Powerhouse... You cannot change something that dramatically


overnight. You are going to see new trains and devolution deal, the


shape of politics is changing across the north of England and people are


doing that. We that in the vote. Investment is going to follow. In


seven years we have doubled the debt under the Tories. We have to leave


it there. Well, that's it from


Bishop Auckland for now. We shall return later,


but the next leg on this UK Thanks, Evan - and good evening


from Abbotsford in the heart of the Scottish Borders,


the home of Sir Walter Scott, who did more than his fair share


to forge both Scottish identity and the idea of a Scotland's place


in the United Kingdom. We are here because constituencies


like this are the kind the Conservatives need to win


if they are to consolidate But more than that -


this election serves to emphasise how much Scotland


is "another country". For many here, this is a return


to the arguments of the 2014 Nicola Sturgeon says it's a chance


to put Scotland in Scotland's hands. Ruth Davidson, after a Tory surge


at last week's local elections, says it's an opportunity


for unionists to prevail. For Labour, who took a drubbing


in the locals and even managed to lose Glasgow council,


the question is whether this election brings


a fightback or wipeout. The resurgence of the Tories appears


to be a direct result In power in Scotland


for more than a decade, the last general election


was a triumph when they took So this election is for the heart


and soul of Scotland, but if the Conservatives gain even


a handful of seats, it would contribute to the idea


that they are the only party who can Scotland has been at the heart


of seismic shifts in politics In 1997 Labour in Scotland


was the backbone of Tony Blair's The Conservatives were all


but dead in the water Ten years later, the Scottish


National Party formed a minority administration in Hollywood and have


been in power ever since. Now they command the heights


of Scotland at Westminster. But people are beginning to ask


whether they have reached peak nat and how that would play


into a second independence When Nicola Sturgeon announced


there would be a second referendum, did that galvanise unionism


in the Scotland? So we've got this odd paradox


going on in Scottish politics now where the Unionist parties


want to talk about independence because they know they have this 55%


majority against it. And the SNP want to talk about other


things because they know that they actually are more in tune


with the views of the Scottish people on social policy,


on Europe, on social justice, There has always been


tactical voting here. But this time it may


have a radically different effect Labour is in a terrible,


terrible position. The weakest I have


ever seen the party. I think what is happening is that


people are saying, well, another independence referendum,


you know, we don't want that. We don't want to wrangle


over this question, And so what is happening


is they are voting Conservative because they have positioned


themselves clearly, clearly as the party that will fight


against another referendum. If the Conservatives


are going to take any seats from the Nationalists,


this one, Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk,


is first on the hit list. I am in Hawick though,


and here is the conundrum. This was once the centre


of the textile industry, but a combination of automation


and globalisation has decimated Hawico is a family firm founded


in the town in 1874. It makes luxury cashmere


clothing which is exported Brexit is by far and


away the biggest issue Scottish independence,


all the uncertainty that we have with all that are our


single biggest issues. While the view of the management


might be clear, there are some I have never voted Tory


in my life and I have But this time I'm going to vote Tory


because I voted to come out, I voted to stay together,


so I have to vote Tory. They say that Ruth Davidson has


detoxified the Tories. But I'm not really wanting another


referendum because we have had the result already and I think


they're just sort Alistair Moffat farms just


a few miles from here. He feels the apparent conundrum


of this election particularly Because we are a frontier people


and have been for a thousand years, we do not see the frontier people


on the other side of the Tweed People want to stay


in the British union, To avoid another unnecessary


referendum, as they see it. But also the Conservatives are


apparently embracing hard Brexit. And many people here do not want out


of the European Union. In rural England a seat like this


would have been safe Tory territory. But for years even before


the rise of the SNP, this was a liberal rather


than a Conservative stronghold. It will be here where we discover


whether Ruth Davidson has done enough to detoxify the Tories north


of the border. What would a Conservative land


grab in Scotland mean Nicola Sturgeon surprised many


by using the backdrop of Brexit to call for a second referendum


earlier this year. But could May have outmanoeurvered


her with her snap election? And if so, what would


the SNP do next? Well, I caught up earlier this


evening with the party's former I asked him what he would


regard as a mandate This election will not


decide independence. Independence will be


decided in a referendum. That is the established policy


of the Scottish National Party. This election will decide


whether the decisions about Scotland's future should


remain in Scotland's hands. These are decisions to be made


by the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish people,


not to be dictated And that is what an SNP victory


in this election will reinforce. You asked me what would


happen if the SNP... Can I just say that


unlike the rather presumptuous vainglorious announcements


from the Conservative Party about what they're going to win,


the SNP have never taken a single So we will let


the electorate decide. You talk about Ruth Davidson saying


it is a vainglorious boast to take Gordon,


your own seat. But you have said things like,


independence is inevitable, Well, to say that independence,


there is a movement of Scottish politics towards independence,


that is as certain as anything can That is not the same thing as saying


I'm going to overturn a 20,000 No, but you got a 6500 majority


in the last general election. I had a 20,000 majority over


the Conservative Party. I mean, the Tories have this always


extending list of seats I'm merely saying that


in the north-east of Scotland and in the borders of Scotland,


and in any common-sense area of Scotland, the people who make


vainglorious boasts before an election can often be brought


down to earth with a large bump. You could say that you would be


making a vainglorious boast between a second independence


referendum because you have said, independence is inevitable,


it is just generational. My belief has always been that once


the key decision was to establish the Scottish Parliament,


once the Scottish Parliament was established, then it would


increase and enhance its powers over That was a process which was as near


inevitable as anything I have always said the exact timing


of when that happens and how that happens,


that is for political debate and for I may say the destination


is what is set. The route and the number of stops


you have on the way, But that is interesting,


you say the destination is set. So what you are essentially saying


is the Scottish people could deliver no message at this general election


which would indicate that they do not want a second


independence referendum, No, the Scottish people,


my whole basis and being in politics What I am saying is once we


established the Scottish Parliament, and we are sitting here not far


from Linlithgow and the late Tam Dalyell stayed in the Binns


a few minutes from here. And Tam and I disagreed on many,


many things in politics, about the establishment


of a Scottish Parliament. But the one thing we agreed


on is once you have established a national parliament of Scotland,


it would over a period of time accrue the powers and become


an independent parliament. The people decide the timetable,


they decide when that happens. Two years ago the SNP got half


the vote in the general election. If that figure is significantly


lower in this election, are you saying that irrespective


of how they voted on Brexit, No, what I'm saying is the SNP


will go into this election looking for every vote and every possible


constituency, striving hard And you judge the winning


of an election by the party that gets the most seats


and the most votes. And you do not take


anything for granted. But if the direction of travel,


can I just ask, is the direction of travel in this election,


if Ruth Davidson moves and takes a number of seats including perhaps,


first of all, Berwickshire, which is a very, very


slender majority. Or Gordon, yes, because in fact


if they tactically voted against you on the same turnout,


on the same percent Why would they not


tactically vote against I saw an interesting figure


in the polls a couple of weeks ago. It did not ask how people


were voting, it looked at the parties and said,


do you like this party? 53% of people in


Scotland like the SNP. The figure for the


Conservative Party was 24%. But you have not got over


the 50% hurdle for a second I'm interested in the fact that


you will go for a second independence referendum no matter


what the result of this election is. No, the mandate for the second


referendum was last year. The decision on what happens at this


election is a matter But you judge whether you win


or lose an election by winning And on that criteria


the Scottish National Party have won every major election


in Scotland since 2010. I'm joined here by the fireside


by elections supremo and psephologist John Curtice,


who crunches the numbers at the University of Strathclyde,


and by Alex Massie, Scotland editor Alex Salmond is right that they have


the mandate for a second referendum. But is there anything that could


alter the thinking of that? Not for the SNP. In a technical sense or


factual sense if you prefer the SNP already have their mandate for a


second referendum, authorising the Scottish Government, that vote was


passed a few weeks ago. But politics is not just about facts and


technicalities and hitherto the SNP have done well covered lies in on a


sense of inevitability and the momentum is with them that the are


of national aberration if you like is at hand. If they were to lose


seats in this election that would check that momentum. It will remain


the largest party, but they will see a setback, which will embolden


conservatives who think we can push this further down the line.


The suits Ruth Davidson makes this about unionism? Ever since the


referendum of 2014, the constitutional question has been the


seat of Scottish politics, and this election is simply a continuation of


that process. The truth is, what has happened is not so much SNP support


has gone down that heavily, but rather that the Conservative Party


has become much more successful at bringing the Unionist vote in, and


essentially it is taking votes from the Labour Party. The other thing


which is true is the SNP is defending a quite remarkable base.


50% of the vote, 56 out of 59 seats, difficult to beat, and the


difficulty for the SNP in particular is you can see what happened in last


year's Scottish parliament election. Here on the border with England, up


in the north-east, and so on. The Liberal Democrat equally picking off


places like Fife north-east and Edinburgh West. And therefore the


SNP are finding that the anti-SNP vote is congregating against


particular parties. And of course there is this idea that we have


always had tactical voting but there are particular areas where it looks


as if the best candidate, the Unionist candidate, will be the one


in certain areas for example Edinburgh. Yes, I think we can


expect to see a nonaggression pact between Unionist parties in


Edinburgh which could if everything fell their way leave Edinburgh like


Berlin, divided into four zones. You would have the Liberal Democrats in


Edinburgh West, Tories in the south-west, Labour in Edinburgh


South and the SNP would be the largest group. Whether that actually


happens, a lot needs to go right for the Unionist parties for that


transpire, but it is possible, and we see a breakdown in tribalism,


particularly amongst Conservative voters who are happy to endorse a


Labour Liberal Democrat candidate if that's candidate is the person best


place to defeat the SNP, because you are either on team SNP, or team


anti-SNP in Scotland. But one of the big Scottish stories may well be


that what happens to Labour after this election, we don't know the


result is yet but there are certainly questions about whether


Corbyn should even be in the election literature. That party is


only defending one seat, and above South, and it is vulnerable. The


Labour Party fell to third yet again as they did further south, but my


reading of where we are at, is although the Labour Party is down in


Scotland, it is not quite out. It still managed to get a fifth of the


vote here, and the gap between them and the Conservatives is still


sufficiently narrow that actually the battle for who is going to be


the principal party of unionism in Scotland has not yet been won and


lost. Ten seconds, does Theresa May have to tread carefully in tone in


Scotland? In the long-term, yes. Whitehall, Westminster, Downing


Street are very good at next week, next month, but the battle of


Scotland will not be decided this year or even next year. This is a


matter for five years, ten year down the line. Thank you both very much


indeed. Let's hand over now


to David Grossman in Stevenage. Welcome to the Cromwell Hotel


in old Stevenage, a coaching in since the 16th century and once


the home of Oliver Cromwell's One secret nobody knows yet


is where this seat is heading It's currently Conservative,


but If Jeremy Corbyn can take it back, history suggests


he should be on course to win the election,


it's around 50 on any ARCHIVE NEWSREEL: Where better


to recapture the spirit of these ventures than at Stevenage,


Hertfordshire, where in the town centre, known as phase one


of the overall plan... A new town to help solve Britain's


post-war housing problems. The new A1 motorway and aerospace


jobs gave it a futuristic feel. It was the sort of place


Harold Wilson had high hopes for. The Britain that is going to be


forged in the white heat The answer to that is rather rude


to a minority of people... In 1964, a young hopeful


Shirley Williams became MP for the area, although boundary


changes mean it is a Since the seat of Stevenage


was created, whichever party has won here has gone


on to win the country. The victory of millionaire


Blairite Barbara Follett in 1997 was emblematic


of New Labour's triumph. At the last general election,


the Conservatives got 44.5% of the vote, with Labour


ten points behind. The Conservative majority of a shade


under 5000 votes may seem like a big enough mountain for Labour to scale


on its own, but consider this. At the last general election,


Ukip polled 6,800 votes here, and many of them could now


be in play. And according to the most


authoritative academic analysis, this area, Stevenage,


voted strongly to leave the EU. Another straw in the wind that


will make Labour sweat, as last week's local elections


Labour start of the night with five of the six Stevenage seats


on Hertfordshire County Council. By morning they had lost three


to the Conservatives. Now although Stevenage is home


to plenty of London commuters - it's just 25 minutes on the train


to Kings Cross - it's certainly not Lots of companies and


organisations do business here. Among them is the wine society,


a cooperative that's been making its members happy


by the bottle or Where better to assemble a group


of politically-engaged residents who have all at one time to voted


labour to taste test the current The wine society provided us


with some politically themed wines. The first item on our


agenda was to pick one That is going to be


hard to beat, I think. I'm very glad to say it


has got a screw top. I suppose if you were to put me


on the line I would probably be I would be fairly central


and you could argue may be leaning slightly to the right,


but I'm open to listening And seeing as to whether that is


the man I want to vote for. In the past I have mainly voted


either Liberal Democrat or green. Probably as I have got


older I have changed. I have been a Labour voter, I have


been a Liberal Democrat voter. I have probably veered a lot more


towards the Liberal Democrats. How do you view the Labour Party


at the moment, do you see them as someone you might be


giving your vote I view the Labour Party as a lot


of very different people who have I do not think we should


see the Labour Party We are a large group who have come


together and band together with the common aim to achieve


what we want. I am suspending my decision


until I know a bit more But at the moment for me it is very


much a leadership election. To be absolutely honest with you,


for the longest time I did not, I was one of these people


who did not pay much It is only within the past few years


where I have noticed how it is affecting the people around me


that I have taken And I'm now a fully paid-up


member of the Labour Party because Jeremy Corbyn actually


grabbed hold of me, as it And those things that


I was unhappy about, How do you feel about


the Labour Party at this election, are they somebody you might end


up voting for? I would not dream whatsoever


of voting for the Labour Party as it He may well have, you know,


great qualities in Jeremy Corbyn, I think the country need somebody


that has gravitas. I think the country needs


somebody that can actually I think the Shadow Cabinet


is something at the moment that I could not entertain voting for,


whether it is John McDonnell, all I think of the front bench team


do not have anything that gives me any belief that what


they say, I can believe. I think we would be a laughing


stock on the world stage. What is going to inform your


vote at this election? The focus on our services


within the country. I know there is a whole big talk


about Brexit and it seems to be an election about Brexit


at the minute. You have got the Conservatives


saying they are the ones that are going to push for it


were the other parties would not. But I feel we are losing track


of the services around our local towns and the country and the NHS


and things like that. So that is going to be


what is important for me. I voted to leave because I


think Europe is a con. I didn't vote because there


are too many people coming It is a bosses club and I'm


not a boss so I didn't If you go into negotiation you need


to have a clear idea of what you want and what you're


trying to achieve. And what you do not want is being


undermined by your own party And I have not seen much evidence


of that up until now. I would like to pick up something


that Charlie said earlier on, that's actually the general election


is not all about Brexit. Brexit is important,


but if we are not careful we will lose sight of all the other


things that we actually need But Brexit, we have a job to do,


we need somebody that's And somebody that actually has a job


and gets on and does it. And Theresa May, do you think


she has leadership qualities? I think you certainly know


what she wants to achieve and I think she certainly has more


of the support of party than for Again this five or six weeks I think


is the chance to show what they're trying to achieve and how they're


going to do it. That was our own, I should say


unscientific gathering of voters. There is another month until polling


day so everything remains in play even if the polls suggest


it's all over. That's it from here,


let's go 200 miles back up the A1 While we have been on air, it has


emerged that President Trump has sacked James Komi, the director of


the FBI, apparently on the advice of Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Mark


Urban is back in the studio in London and joins us now. How did


this newsbreak? Remarkably, about half an hour go from the White House


press secretary Sean Spicer. The correspondence was then released.


President Trump sending a letter to director Komi saying he had been


terminated, and in a typical Trump fashion, thanking him for saying he


wasn't a subject of the investigation into his campaigns


Russia ties, and putting the onus on his Attorney General. That put the


onus on the deputy Attorney General, who actually said the director of


the FBI was being fired because he had declared Hillary Clinton to be


in the clear last summer on the e-mail saga, and that shouldn't have


been done by an FBI director, said the deputy Attorney General. Where


does this leave the FBI? Locked, as you can see, in this battle with the


Justice Department, whoever succeeds, there is this trial going


on, it is a bureaucratic trough of dominance, the Justice Department


plays that role of the Director of Public Prosecutions, in this country


they decide these things. At this incredibly sensitive time when the


FBI is investigating allegations of ties between President Trump's


campaign and Russian intelligence, and there is also the whole


political background to this. People on all sides of this has been


blaming James Comey. Hillary Clinton blamed him for flip-flopping on the


e-mails issued just before the election. An extraordinary crisis


really leaving big questions for whoever takes the helm at the FBI


about how they keep the Russia investigation credible. Mark, thank


you. I dare say we will have more on that tomorrow, but that is it for


tonight. In case you didn't know,


today was the first day of nominations if you want to stand


as a candidate in You have till Thursday at 4pm


to make your intentions known We dug up a little guide to how


in the Pathe library which we feel hasn't dated


at all since it was made in 1950. Any potential candidate must be


a British subject over 21 and sponsored by ten voters


in the district. He must deliver his nomination


papers to the returning officer and deposit ?150 in cash as proof


of his serious intention. This is a precaution against


the waste of public time and money. Freak candidates are dissuaded


by this deposit, because the money is forfeited if the candidate fails


to poll more than one eighth Let us think before we vote,


and if you can't think, But in fact, few independent


candidates are freaks. Often they are well


known public figures. For example, Commander


Stephen King-Hall. Good evening. The skies are clear,


it is turning chilly. The good news is that Wednesday is looking


beautiful across most of the UK, but it will be a chilly start. These are


the temperatures first thing on Wednesday in city centres. These


temperatures just outside of town, enough for some grass frost in rural


areas. Mind the sunshine, it is strong this time of year, just as


strong as it is in July, so you might burn if you are out for a


lengthy period of time. There will be cloud around in northern parts of


Scotland, but other than that it is looking like a stunning afternoon,


and a fine evening on the way as well, Wednesday night into Thursday.


Then it is all change from Thursday onwards, we are anticipating thicker


cloud drifting in from the south-west and we will start to see


the cloud building, showers affecting southern counties, some of


them moving into Wales and the Midlands, but most of them should be


light, many of us with a dry and sunny day again on Thursday, with


humidity rising, and you will notice that certainly by the time we get to


Friday, it will feel close, and there is a risk of some


thunderstorms developing almost anywhere across England and Wales.


Temperatures despite the cloud and rain will get up to 90 degrees in


the south, teams in the North, but


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