Manchester Attack Newsnight

Manchester Attack

The latest from Manchester and London, with Emily Maitlis and Evan Davis, as the prime minister says another attack could be imminent.

Similar Content

Browse content similar to Manchester Attack. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!



Images that that have become depressingly familiar.


But this time with a terrible twist - a bomber with


Good evening from Albert Square in Manchester.


In the last hour the terror alert has been raised to critical.


Is it a sign of worse things to come?


This means that their assessment is not only that an attack remains


highly likely but that a further attack may be imminent.


Thousands gathered tonight to remember the victims


This is a city that's determined not to be divided


by what took place half a mile from here at the Manchester Arena.


But there's a huge amount of anger too.


I feel so much for the parents who have gone through what they have


That was not a military target, that's not even a


government target, that was just kids.


Whenever you've got to say, they were children.


Half of them probably don't even know where Raqqa


We're here with a survivor and one of the people


who know this city best, its former mayor.


How will this city - and the country, react?


So many questions arise out of these atrocities; not least,


how we should respond to these attacks.


And strike the right balance between liberty and security?


I would anyway be very surprised indeed to find that this


In fact the idea of a lone wolf, it is an attractive concept,


an attractive label, but it is very, very rare


We'll ask if it's possible to create a society,


safer and more resilient in the face of these increasingly


We'll be with Emily in Manchester this evening,


But we start here, as it was from Downing Street


at quarter to ten tonight, that the Prime Minister made


She said the investigations in Manchester raised the possibility


that there are those who were working with last night's


bomber who are at large; and that the terror threat needs


to be raised because another attack may be imminent.


The threat level is, I should say, set by an independent body.


She also proposed elevated security measures.


Armed police officers responsible for duties like guarding key sites


will be replaced by members of the Armed Forces,


which will allow the police to significantly increase the number


of armed officers on patrol in key locations.


You might also see military personnel deployed at certain


events, such as concerts and sports matches, helping the police


In all circumstances, members of the Armed Forces


who are deployed in this way will be under the command


That was Theresa May at about quarter to ten, I am joined by Mark


Urban, the threat level is critical, is that the first time? It has been


done twice before for short periods in 2006 and 2007. It is not


unprecedented. But it suggests our belief amongst intelligence experts


are further attack could be imminent. Talk us through the logic


which will have led to this view? If you look at the possibility that a


person in their early 20s as this bomber was could put together


something of this nature that could kill so many people, have such


devastating effect, it's not too likely that one individual would


have two master skills of perhaps making home-made explosives,


constructing the bomb and finding the target, motivating themselves to


take their own life, all of these things. Because of all the of


enquiry which are being actively looked into by the police, there is


a belief there could be a wider group of people around them. If you


come to the conclusion that this person may not have been able to


make the bomb you ask who did make it and might they be prepared to


make and deploy others in the coming days? Then you will see the reason


why intelligence and security experts might error on the side of


caution and raised the threat level. Troops at public events and things


like that under the command of police, that is what we had at the


Olympics? It has been seen once or twice before, the procedure that


this will happen under, Operation Tempora, it was put in place a


couple of years ago as a result of a couple of things, ever since Mumbai


but also the events in Paris and Brussels, that if there was a major


attack involving firearms on the streets of Britain there could be


places with particular vulnerabilities. My understanding


has always been they are not especially worried about London,


where there are lots of armed police. But you go to some of our


big cities outside London, Manchester, Birmingham, Newcastle,


Bristol, other cities where the firearms units might be small in


part due to cuts in the police, the fuelling a couple of years ago was


they had to be worked out contingency plans to backfill the


police with Army troops which is what has been talked about now.


Inevitably there are people on social media, we are only 45 minutes


on from the announcement saying it is an overreaction and playing


politics, what other checks and balances in the system that if you


like it did the Prime Minister's hand? It is headed by a senior


intelligence officer, the Prime Minister emphasising this was a


result as a request from the police, that is very much the complexion


being put in by Downing Street. A lot of people are concerned, troops


on the street, is Theresa May milking the situation? Some people


are saying that tonight on the Internet. Exploiting it. This comes


down to a judgment by security professionals and as a former Home


Secretary she is very comfortable dealing with them. We will hear your


report later. All of this comes after


last night's bombing - and a day of sadness,


some anger and a great It's hard to imagine a softer


target than the audience The Manchester Arena is not


a military building, There was no confusion


in the killer's mind. He came here exactly 24 hours


ago to kill children and teenagers: those celebrating


the culture that makes An eight year old girl


is amongst the dead. The trauma for hundreds


of others is incalculable. Tonight, we look at how an event


like this changes us, what we know of terror in Manchester


and of the suspect himself. But we begin right here


in the city itself. Music and Manchester, are deep in


each other's brains. This city welcomed buskers and big-name stars


with equal warmth. A place that sings it self expression. A city


that stops to listen when nothing else makes much sense. Manchester's


concerts like the one here last night are something of a rite of


passage. Every teenager, every kid falling in love with music for the


first time. Tasting what it means to leave their hang-ups and appearance


at the door. Enter that sublime Brave New World. Until that Brave


New World cracks open. Oh my God! What's going on? A suicide bomber


too cowardly to choose anything but the most vulnerable targets


detonated himself in the arena foyer. A man came here to kill


children while their parents were temporarily out of reach. Amongst


the victims just eight years old, Georgina Callander a student of 18


and 26 your old man, John Atkinson. Children screaming from their


parents, parents desperate to hear those voices. This is my daughter


Olivia, I have not seen her since 5pm last night. Charlotte has


robustly been appealing for information throughout the day. Let


someone know if you think it might be her, please, I just want her


home. I want her back in my arms. Paula Robinson was one of those who


stopped to help. We were in the Victoria station which is directly


outside the arena and this big explosion just went off. Loads of


people coming out, but there was huge amounts of teenagers, young


children, two caught our eye because they were seeing where is my dad,


get my dad. We just got hold of those children, told them we would


take them away and that there are dad could not pick them up. She put


her number on Facebook to let parents know she was with


unaccompanied children. She was overwhelmed with what happened next.


People have been ringing me and sending me pictures of their


children. I have had hundreds of hysterical parents wanting to know


if their children are OK and I have tried to put it out there that I


just don't know, I just don't know. The chaos of yesterday has shipped


itself into a narrative of sorts. We know an explosion hit the foyer at


10:30pm shortly after a sold-out Ariana Grande concert finished.


Police believe the attacker detonated an improvised explosive


device and died at the scene. So far we know at least 22 were killed in


the attack and a further 59 victims including 12 age under 16 were taken


to eight hospitals in the area. Police raided a number of addresses


in the wider Manchester area. They named a 22-year-old man of Libyan


origin board here as a suspect. And by lunchtime they were having to


turn people away, for now. Ian has turned up to give blood for the


first time in his life. Devastating. You see these things in the news and


you think one day it's going to be here but when it happens and it's


children, we can react in a lot of ways, we can react in anger or we


can react by doing why did I stay in the city for 17 years, this city is


a community. He tells me he used to be a bar and inside the arena. It


was not a military target, not a government target, it was just kids.


What ever you had to say about it they were just children. Half of


them probably don't know where Raqqa is or Syria is. It's children at a


pop concert. It inhumane. I don't know how else to describe it. This


evening in bright sunshine it feels a whole city has come out to mark


the moment. To remember the victims, many of them children. Sprayers,


talking of peace and forgiveness, for a moment everyone seems to know


what to do. But what happens when the crowds are gone, the hashtag


forgotten and the grieving are left alone with their unbearable grief?


Do not forget this was an attack on kids just trying to grow up and on


parents trying to do their best to let them. On an ordinarily Monday


night in Manchester. Joe Flinders was one of those at the


arena last night. Tony Lloyd was the city 's Police and Crime


Commissioner who stepped down just two weeks ago and they join me here,


Joe I know you have not been to bed since last night, I am wondering


what you did differently, what you went through last night? From my


perspective, as I have said, we normally sit in the block that was


affected. For whatever reason the tickets we got this time happened to


be on the other side, stage left. The epicentre of the blast came from


the terminus between Victoria and the arena which nine times out of


ten is the only exit I know so it's the only exit I use. For what ever


reason we did not use that except and as we left our seats and went


into the corridors, everybody was just about grabbing the corridors,


that is where we heard and felt the blast. We did not see smoke from our


side. There was a second of confusion for everybody but then


there was panic, frantic children being dragged by hysterical parents.


It was distressing to see parents upset and it was upsetting the


children even more. Spilling down the exits we went through. Then one


of the most haunting things were seeing the parents picking people up


outside, flooding back into the building, going against the crowd to


get into their children that they could not see because from their


perspective they heard a massive bang and then panicked crowds


heading out. So still a bit numb towards it all to be honest. What


did you do when you saw those things? First of all we hoped it


might have been best case scenario, pyrotechnics or helium cylinder


because there were lots of balloons as part of the show. I did not panic


until we got onto the street and could see how distressed everyone


was. You could hear people's phone calls saying they saw blood and


smoke. But we did not see any of that from the entrance we left from.


We just tried to get away as quick as we could as we were told to do.


And mindless replaying overall why you were not sitting on the seats


you normally hat. So many times have I been in that exact plays queueing


up to be first at the barriers. I have been going to that building my


whole life. For something to happen this close to home, I cannot fathom


why someone would target music lovers and children. You do not


think about these things happening so close to home. I cannot really


digestive. I am quite numb and really tired. Entirely


understandable. Thank you for staying up with us. Tony Lloyd, you


have heard that the terror alert has been raised, I am wondering as a


former police and crime commissioner, what that is now


sparking off in your head? I think what it means is that our security


services cannot rule out the fact that there could be further threat,


that this may not have been a lone act, there is the potential for


follow-up. In a city like this, making sure that this experience


does not happen again has to be the highest ambition and politicians


have to act on the advice of the police and the intelligence


services. To do otherwise would be irresponsible. We would all welcome


it. I write up thinking we have not been at critical level for a decade?


Yes. Since the attack on Glasgow airport and others. It shows the


changing nature. We do have to take this seriously. In terms of keeping


people safe. The really strong message here tonight in Manchester,


was how much people reject, people from all backgrounds, reject these


acts of evil by individually crazed people. They are on their own and we


stand together. I know you have been here before, I have certainly been


here before at these kinds of events and we know that the perpetrators


are evil and barbaric and all the rest, but at some stage, you have to


say, this is not getting any better. We are living permanently with the


kind of terror that means we even know what to do, we know how to


behave at vigils, we know when to colour up the Eiffel Tower, that


cannot be sustainable, Cabinet? It is not the world any of us want. My


answer to that is to say that the things we have learned, of how we do


work together, building solidarity in our society is of the utmost


importance. It is not just a phraseology that we invented. We


stand together. We have got to be together across our many different


rainbow communities, that makes up this country of ours. Were you at


the vigil? Does it feel like a city that is trying to come together? I


was not there. I was comforting my mother. Because from her


perspective, she got a phone call from me when it happened, before she


heard, because they did not want to have that moment of wondering was I


OK. She was really distressed so I came home from work because she


needed support. I could have done with the support from her as well.


The support from Manchester that I have seen, because my social


channels are filled with people from Manchester because I am from here,


on a personal level it has touched so many people way everyone got


involved. The blood bank, the people offering free lives, taxi drivers,


accommodation, children are being gathered in local hotels, it was the


best thing we can take from all of this, is how we acted together.


Thank you. More from Manchester


later in the programme - How do we help them make any sense


of what they are going through? Let's reflect on how


we should respond to these kinds of atrocities,


and the deadly recurrence of them. Since the Charlie Hebdo attacks


in Paris kicked off this latest wave of killings,


which is not even two and a half years ago now,


316 people have been killed across western Europe


in violence that might be France, Denmark, Sweden,


Belgium, Germany and Britain The selection of iconic targets has


somehow brought the sense of threat And in Manchester, we now have


twenty thousand or so people, caught up in the trauma of a bomb -


running from the danger. Well, we obviously don't


want to become inured to violence around us,


but we do want to be We also want to preserve our


liberties, but also our security. We'll discuss these


dilemmas shortly. But first, what we know


about the threat? How significant is it that


Salman Abedi had succeeded When police raided an address in


fallow field they were prepared to discover a bomb factory. They knew


that Salman Abedi, the bombing suspect had lived here and we have


learned were proceeding on the assumption that he had used


home-made explosives and indeed, one officer was seen emerging from the


property with this. For the police, it is vital to learn how the worst


attack for 12 years was carried out. Can you move back down please? Thank


you very much. Key to the investigation is the explosives and


the construction of the bomb itself. In 7/7 and Paris and Brussels the


tracks, hydrogen peroxide explosives were used. The principles of making


it are easily understood and have been propagated by Al-Qaeda and the


Islamic State group. It is easy to do wrong. In the 21 slash seven


attacks, and the bombs did not go off properly and on other occasions


they have gone off prematurely. The chemistry and weaponisation the


explosives with shrapnel takes skill is unlikely to have been possessed


by Abedi. I would be very surprised indeed to find that this was just


one person. In fact, the idea of a lone wolf, it is an attractive


concept, an attractive label but it is very rare that it actually


happens, that someone is operating purely on their own. It is much more


common for there to be a cell and for that sell to be connected to a


broader organisation. So the questions multiply about


accomplices. Did Abedi or someone else make the bomb and find the


target? Who radicalised him? If there is a wider circle, could more


attacks be mounted? Certainly in this case, the level of expertise is


in building an explosive device capable of killing the number of


people it has, collecting materials in order to do that in the first


place, completely undetected by the police and the security services and


then being able to transport from one place to another, bearing in


mind they can be quite volatile, these home built weapons and then


being able to detonate it at will at the place of your choosing. There is


a level of expertise that is not acquired by the internet or by


sitting in your bedroom. Enquiries by Newsnight suggest that Abedi's


father and brother were linked to the Didsbury Islamic centre mass


that was taken over several years ago by sympathisers of the Libyan


Islamic fighters group, and Al-Qaeda affiliate. For Gaddafi fell, the


group's leadership came to terms with the Libyan government and


agreed they would stop fighting and return to being released from


prison. The group really dissipated but that did not mean to say that


the members gave up their ideas and gave up the radicalisation and I am


sure that some of them will have gone towards Iraq and Syria were


some may have joined some other groups and some may have joined the


Islamic State. I news agency affiliated to the Islamic State has


claimed responsibility for the Manchester attack, but it is not


clear yet whether they have done this opportunistically or are behind


and more complex conspiracy. For now, there are multiple lines of


enquiry concerning the associates of the bomber and how someone was able


to make such a lethal contraption. In time though, there will be


broader questions asked, such as how all the procedures and mechanisms


put in place after the 2005 London attacks were beaten. The police say


that since 2013, they have broken up more than a dozen terrorist plots in


the UK, but on this occasion, they did not succeed.


Well, with me in the studio is Shami Chakrabarti,


But who is actually not here in that capacity -


this is not a day for political points.


Shami was for 13 years until last year, the director of Liberty,


Good evening to you. The great question that emerges on days like


this is how we got the balance between liberties and security


right? There is a sweeping question with so many questions within it but


at the heart of all of this is probably a word that Tony Lloyd used


briefly in the interview with Emily which was this idea of solidarity,


this idea of a community trying to stay calm and United, under the kind


of provocation that you see from this kind of terrorism which is of


course designed to provoke, designed to divide, designed to turn people


against each other and to have people living in fear. Ironically,


to shut down what Theresa May call today our liberal pluralist society.


It is certainly the kind of day for calm, a certain pause for thought


and unity and then of course for resources. We have heard, we hear


about the threat has been raised and the resources that are to be


deployed. I have not heard anything as yet that suggests a knee jerk to


bring in other powers. It would not worry you that there is a rush to


judgment. On occasions like this particularly where children are


involved, people will want to tilt the balance away from liberty and


say screw liberty, it is about getting these people. There was not


any liberty in that concert Hall last night for those children. Let


us be clear. Human rights include the right to protection of precious


life, however, how best to do that and probably not, we have learned,


but -- by knee jerk that do not unite us. The sun is reporting that


the government is about to ask Parliament to approve technical


capability notices which will force internet companies to basically


de-encrypt or handover" to that data, I do not know the details, is


this the kind of thing that is going too far? I do not know what the Sun


is reporting, but there is no Parliament at the moment, this is


one of the challenges of this rather extraordinary moment. There is no


Parliament. We have got this terrorist atrocity and we have got


no Parliament. However, there is still checks and balances and I have


colleagues who are privy counsellors and I know that Theresa May has


spoken to the Leader of the Opposition and will no doubt do so


again. I have other colleagues like Diane Abbott who is a privy


Counsellor again, there is still the possibility of for discussion and


scrutiny in a bipartisan way in these challenging times. Are you


satisfied with the system, we have the independent body who recommend


the threat level, are you satisfied, if you like, with the broad


independence of that cyst, that it is not subject to politicisation?


What I would say on a night like this one is that this is not the


moment for conspiracy theories. If anyone is feeling panicked about the


timing of this, I would urge them to be calm and United. I have


colleagues who are great civil libertarians and human rights folk


and privy counsellors and I think that it is possible to take this


forward in a bipartisan way. You broadly support then the raising of


the threat level? I am not a privy Counsellor and I have not seen the


intelligence but nor am I going to take a knee jerk in the other


direction and to be a conspiracy theorist, I do not think that would


be good for anyone this evening. Thank you very much.


Let me turn to Shaista Gohir who chairs the Muslim


And Professor Michael Clarke - specialist adviser to


the Joint National Committee on Security Strategy


and former Director General of Royal United Services Institute.


Can I start with Hugh? She hinted at us not needing extra powers but


potentially need extra resources, is that where the security services


would be when it comes to dealing with this track?


We have plenty of counterterrorism law in this country, but the police


need more reason horses and I think that is what this will hinge on. We


don't need more powers but we need the powers that do exist more across


the board. The police have been suffering cuts year after year,


maybe too far? Or is it a matter of redeploying resources? That is where


the knock on problem is, they met in London take the lead but if you look


at other constabularies in other big cities which may now be vulnerable,


they will tell you that their counter terrorism squads are too


small, and that is where the knock on effect arises. If there are more


police there could be more firearms officers but if this threat level of


critical means troops will turn out that will release more police to do


the firearms related task. The technical capability notices or


whatever the government are looking at to get more data, is that the


missing link in the powers they have? They will have a problem


because the jurisdiction is a big issue, the government have worried


about it for a long time. The companies are not British so there


is only a sort of certain amount of their operation they could demand


control over. Shaista Gohir let me turn to you, you are concerned to


some extent with preventing these things, using that word because we


have a prevent programme which tries to do it. From the perspective of


Muslim Women's Network UK needs to change, either in the rest of


society or in the Muslim community? I would like to pay sincere


condolences to the friends and families of the victims,


particularly parents who have lost their children. It's unthinkable to


lose your children. In terms of what can be done, we talk about how do


challenge and the threat of ices and that is something the police and


government are working on but there is more that can be done -- the


threat of IS. This attack has been so horrific that everybody, no


matter what your background is has condemned this, it's an attack on


children and an attack on all of us, but although the Muslim community by


and large is really shaken with this and is condemning it unfortunately


there are a small cohort of people, individuals, organisations, I will


not name them on here, but they are very active in terms of the will not


want Muslims to work with the government... Sorry to interrupt,


would be recognise themselves as supporters of Isis or would be think


of themselves as opposed? But not opposed in the right way? I will


describe what they are and then I think we can decide whose side on


because they are not on our side and I would put them on the side of


extremists because these people first of all I have noticed when


there are terror attacks do not condemn them and at first I thought


let me give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe it is because we have


so many and they are abroad, maybe they do not want to condemn each and


everyone but this one you have to be heartless not to condemn. This was


on children, an attack on our own home country and yet there has been


silence. They have very quickly jumped on the bandwagon of their is


going to be a backlash on Muslims that has already started. We need to


condemn that, yes, but it's a conversation we need to be having in


coming days. Today our focus should be on the victims and their


families. The same people will criticise the government's strategy


of prevent and that is fine. People who work with government like


ourselves will raise concerns and say we need to do better because


innocent people get caught up in this. Let me finish my point, it's


really important, the same people will demonise and target people and


vilify people who want to work with government to defeat and challenge


extremists. We are called Muslim apologists. By condemning terrorism


it is not being an apologist, it's about being a human being. Thank you


very much, that point is very well made. I want to throw last one to


you Michael Clarke about security, prevention of these kind of


incidents. Can armed troops, armed police, if someone walks in with a


bomb, he walks in, when the exits are open so everyone is leaving so


you don't have security, you could put security around the outside of


the arena but then you will have people exiting the security zone to


outside, what are we meant to make of the difficulty here? It's all


risk calculation. You could extend the security perimeter around every


event and then you have problems around the perimeter again. Armed


police can provide reassurance and make sure an attack does not go very


far which is what happened in Westminster. But ultimately if


somebody wants to try something they will get the first blow in before


anyone can react and unless we are going to live in some sort of East


German state that will always be the case. It's a matter of the public


being vigilant and accepting we live with the level of risk. That is what


the security services have been telling us for the last 15 years.


Thank you both very much. Back over to Emily in Manchester.


Today the Children's Commissioner for England urged adults to find


a way to tell our children what has happened.


But how we do help them make sense of such terrible acts


of violence particularly when it's their generation


Just approaching eight o'clock on BBC radio Manchester. Their faces


stay out from the missing appeals on social media. Olivia Campbell's mum


has not heard from her since she went to the concert last night.


Relatives desperately seeking Chloe Rutherford and Liam Curry. And


Courtney Boyle, just 19, is also unaccounted for. In many case this


was an attack on young people. As parents and children woke up to the


news of what had happened many grappled with how to explain this


assault on the young, to the young. Children go out and they go to a


concerted and this is what happens. You go out as a family on a happy


occasion and this is what happens. Outside Manchester's Kingswood


primary school parents were still die jesting the horror. What was


your reaction as a parent? I was scared, shocked, I was on the phone


telling them to get home on time, things like that, really scared.


Mortified as a parent, mortified. I mean... My eldest walk up, got out


of bed and she saw, she is 13, she's got a phone and she sent me a


message so she clearly knows and understands what is going on. The


three younger ones don't know about it. But my heartfelt sympathies and


I feel so much for the parents who have gone through what they have


gone through today. The school flag has been lowered in sympathy. Many


schools in the area and beyond will have decided an attack which shocked


adults will also have had an impact on children. Kings road cancelled


its full school assembly in favour of teachers talking to their


individual classes. Some year groups had heard gossip about knives and


guns and rampaging people. We had to deal with that, dealing with


mistruths and correcting them sensibly. Other year groups,


although your groups there was a mix of emotions, some children felt fear


and negative emotions and other children felt different negative


emotions such as anger. How'd you make children feel safe? We have not


let them out at playtime today because we wondered what the risk


was and we have locked all the gates throughout the school and senior


leaders have patrolled outside the school today so it is physically


safe. Helping the parents be assured so their children are safe in


school. Then there is emotionally safe as well and safe to feel fear


and what we do with that and I think we have a responsibility as a school


to tackle that. This educational psychologist gave British schools


advise in the wake of the Paris attacks and was hand again today.


Before eight o'clock this morning I gave out e-mails to answer


children's questions, give them the facts, do not engage in speculation


but acknowledge it and talk about it. For one parent, picking up his


daughter from the primaries go, talking is very necessary. Today his


apartment block became central to the police investigation. There was


a chord and setup, three building blocks have been surrounded by the


police and security forces. Is that still the case? Up until this


moment. They are making their enquiries about someone who has


lived in the premises who has a connection with what happened in


Manchester last night. How do you feel about that? Despicable if it is


the right word. If it can be broadcasted. It really should not be


done in England. The blocks here, parents living nearby said they felt


the need to explain what has happened to their children. I think


it is really important to be honest with your kids when they ask, do not


overlook them with too much information because that could make


them frightened about going out and just try and keep, if they want to,


talk about it and listen to them if they are scared. The overwhelming


response we found today to the indiscriminate violence was empathy.


Parents deeply moved by the knowledge that they can still guard


their children close when others cannot. I am joined by: Parry who


lost his son in 1993 in an IRA attack. You are an extraordinary


inspiration to any parent watching this tonight, because what you have


done, you and your wife, is to really read channel that anger into


something very positive. Yes, although I would say there was never


any anger. I will not get into that. We channelled our energies into


doing something meaningful in terms of keeping Tim's name alive in any


way we did and Jonathan, the other little boy who died. We began with a


3-way exchange programme between Bury Dublin and Warrington for young


people and two years on having seen the results, we decided we wanted to


scale up and the only way we could do that was to build our own


premises in Warrington and over the next couple of years, I fund raise


with a few significant political allies and we built the Peace Centre


in 2000 and that where we do most of our work. When you saw what happened


here last night, I am wondering that took you back to square one? More


than any other terrorist outraged in the years that followed Warrington,


this hit me and my wife and my daughter as well, she was very upset


today, because it was children. It was children doing something


perfectly normal for children, just having fun. You said Tim was on his


way to buy football shorts. He was. That is all he was doing, buying


some football shirts because he has saved a penalty the week before for


the school team and he went out and never came home and 22 people have


done the same here and many of them are children. It is horrifying that


such young lives can be lost like that. I was looking at some of the


photographs on the news earlier, the eight-year-old girl, what a


beautiful little girl and how her parents are feeling now. I can


imagine how they are feeling. I don't know if you are reaching out


to them, what would you say to them or anyone going through that now? I


don't know that anything could be said right now that would make a jot


of difference because they will be so broken. And so heartbroken and


devastated that I think they will probably be deaf to most things. I


found in those early days and weeks that we operated on a basic level,


we slept and we ate and people came in and did the basic things for us,


family and friends and we were relieved of having to do anything


other than basic existence because the grief is so enormous. I don't


think any function above the most basic is within your capabilities


and it takes time to reach the point where maybe you can start to have


conversations with people, and some advice might be helpful. I think


when we might reach out to people possibly be of help is once they


have gone through that awful initial grief, that might be weeks or


months, but when we are ready, we would be the ideal organisation to


talk to, because we are a victim founded organisation. We can


empathise in ways that perhaps a professional cannot. Thank you very


much. That is the ambition now for Manchester to try and work out how


it falls together, how it finds comfort and support, how it finds


optimism in anything that has happened here, because to be frank,


there is nothing else they can do right now. Emily, thank you.


The prime minister said this was worst ever attack


It's not the first, but it is clearly far more traumatic


for Manchester than the IRA bombing in the centre of the


It takes the violence that struck in London in 2005


and again earlier this year, beyond the capital, to the nation.


I'm joined by the author Howard Jacobson - very quickly


after the attack he penned a tribute to his home city of Manchester


Good evening. You wrote something interesting, though Manchester now


belongs to a long list of terrorist casualties it is, it can think of


itself as picked up, it is a city of rare figure and that is a striking


point. It is the figure that makes it a target. It makes it vulnerable,


you think of it is a big and free and happy and joking use it loving


place, if ever there was a vulnerable place, it is Manchester.


It is not unique, but it is a town given over to good natured fun and


entertainment. Good natured relations between the people there


and that makes it, well it is my hometown and I have family there, so


I feel particularly sad and anxious about it. Sad anxious, emotions run


high on all the days of these atrocities. How much emotion should


we allow ourselves and how much can we allow ourselves if these


atrocities occur once a month? In the Second World War, the story


goes, the stiff upper lip and you would not have coped if you were


going to get too sentimental about things, but it is very hard not to


be. It is and one does not know whether the word is sentimental. The


real answer is you feel as much as you need to feel and some people


will feel it differently and some people will eventually come to feel


better about it as the gentleman we have just seen in some people might


never heal. I suspect that if I were the parent of one of those children,


I would never heal and I would be angry, but that is not to say that


is the way to feel. You're quite right that the war and I often think


about that but I am wondering if it is the nature of the violence that


is done to that makes the difference. People say terrorism is


not so terrible, more people are knocked down by bicycles but there


is something about an accident, the way you are killed. It is much much


worse. You feel there is a malevolence in the air when that


happens and you might very well and it is a personal, spiteful


malevolence that is aimed at you. The person who did this wanted to


kill children. We want to be a resilient society and pick ourselves


up and I suppose the question is, how quickly we return to normality


after these things. What else does resilience mean other than pick


ourselves up and go back to work? What is a normality? The thing that


gave on some consolation was the account of how people work in the


immediate aftermath and how helpful people work, this is the truth about


Manchester, it might sound like, they are lovely Laura, they are


lovely in Manchester and very kind and I heard that story about the


taxi drivers ferrying people and my father was a black taxi driver in


Manchester. He is not alive now but I know he would have been calling


his friends and saying, let's do it. It is a very equal society and the


help one another. I'm not saying it does not have them elsewhere, but


Manchester is particularly like that. That is one set of immediate


responses that was great and gave you hope in human nature. It is a


music city, it is a party city. You presumably help that they are back


to music and entertainment as quickly as you can clear the crime


scenes and the evidence. Of course yes, but we have to ask ourselves


whether there is a callousness and simply getting back to that. We can


work the two tracks, we can live our lives and the active and enjoy our


lives and at the same time, there can be a layer of sadness, that this


is the case, that this happened and we will never forget that it


happened. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you for coming in.


Well, that is it from us this evening.


It's worth remembering amid the gloom that every event


ignites a counter reaction, the bad always provokes the good;


and there has been no shortage of that at all.


We thought James Corden captured that thought rather well last night;


the English host of the US Late Late Show on CBS came on air


as events were developing, here's some of what he said.


It shocks me every time we hear this sort of news that attacks


like this can happen, but especially when there


will be so many children at this concert tonight.


Many of you won't have ever been to Manchester,


but you will definitely have heard of it.


It's famous all over the world for so many wonderful things.


It was the birthplace of the leader of the suffragettes.


It's the home of the inventor of the first computer.


It's a place full of comedy and curries and character.


But when I think of Manchester, the place that I know,


I think of the spirit of the people there.


And I'm telling you, a more tight-knit group of people


Strong, proud, caring people with community at its core.


And if it was even possible, the spirit of the people


of Manchester will grow even stronger this evening.


My thoughts and prayers are with everyone in Manchester tonight.


All of the staff at the MEN arena, all of the security teams,


all of the emergency services, Ariana and her team and all those


We'll all go to bed holding our little ones even