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For 60 years the Queen has been delivering her speech | :00:12. | :00:14. | |
at the opening of Parliament - but has she ever seen | :00:15. | :00:16. | |
A minority government, with no deal and a weakened leader. | :00:17. | :00:24. | |
How can the Government begin to set the agenda | :00:25. | :00:27. | |
Nine years on from the financial crash, | :00:28. | :00:41. | |
Barclays bankers face charges - is this a moment for major public | :00:42. | :00:44. | |
catharsis against those we thought untouchable? | :00:45. | :00:53. | |
And the printed press turning up the dial on Jeremy Corbyn. | :00:54. | :00:57. | |
Did the tabloid propaganda machine misfire, or has | :00:58. | :00:59. | |
We all have to recognise that we don't have a monopoly now. | :01:00. | :01:06. | |
We've got new forces, disruptive forces that | :01:07. | :01:08. | |
are fundamentally changing the media landscape. | :01:09. | :01:21. | |
There is something vaguely absurd about the prospect | :01:22. | :01:25. | |
Perhaps it was the dawning realisation that led to a stripping | :01:26. | :01:40. | |
down of the pomp and ceremony of tomorrow's Queen's Speech. Gone, we | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
now understand, will be elements usually reserved for such occasions. | :01:45. | :01:47. | |
Strangely appropriate, for a government having to moderate its | :01:48. | :01:49. | |
own ambition. The first Queen's Speech | :01:50. | :01:51. | |
after an election is traditionally a time to reassure the people | :01:52. | :01:53. | |
there is a steady hand. A sense of direction, | :01:54. | :01:55. | |
and a parliamentary agenda to be laid out - | :01:56. | :01:57. | |
the product of the nation's vote. We returned a minority government - | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
with as yet no DUP deal - We are revisiting questions | :02:02. | :02:08. | |
about the decisions taken a year ago And we have emerged | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
from the horrific events of recent Our political editor | :02:14. | :02:19. | |
Nick Watt is here for us. We're going to start with the deal, | :02:20. | :02:31. | |
or no Deal, with the DUP? The mood music between them did not look | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
great today. At Stormont, the DUP said the Tories mustn't take them | :02:37. | :02:39. | |
for granted. It feels to me there will be a version of the supply am | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
confident steel, that is not a full coalition, possibly on Thursday this | :02:44. | :02:48. | |
week. As I understand it, the DUP is looking at two core principles. In | :02:49. | :02:53. | |
the first instance, as Unionists, they would like to get games for the | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
United Kingdom as a whole. Maybe deep pension triple lock will | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
survive. In the second place, they want gains for Northern Ireland. | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
Crucially, they are saying this will not be for the DUP, they will be for | :03:06. | :03:09. | |
Northern Ireland as a whole, a big emphasis on building up and | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
improving what they describe as Northern Ireland's creaking | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
infrastructure. Where do you see us on Brexit? The numbers in parliament | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
after the election have moved in a mildly soft Brexit direction. I have | :03:24. | :03:27. | |
been speaking to senior Tories who believe they can stop the government | :03:28. | :03:33. | |
leaving the EU without a deal. They are saying that, if such a scenario | :03:34. | :03:37. | |
is looming, they would be able to pass, they would have the numbers to | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
pass, a very simple amendment to the Repeal Bill, the measure that will | :03:42. | :03:45. | |
convert the body of all EU law into UK law, before the UK decides which | :03:46. | :03:50. | |
bits it wants to get rid of. That amendment would, very simply, they | :03:51. | :03:57. | |
say, cancelled the repeal of the 1972 European Communities Act, which | :03:58. | :04:01. | |
provided the lawful basis for our accession into the EEC, which then | :04:02. | :04:08. | |
became the EU. The idea is this, they want to discourage the | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
Government from going down the no Deal route, by saying in Parliament, | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
could complicate Brexit effectively obliging ministers to go back to the | :04:16. | :04:23. | |
EU and ask for an extension of the article 15 negotiations. Westminster | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
now has a very different feel with a minority government. I have been | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
looking at how tomorrow might pan out. | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
As the UK Basques in glorious sunshine, you could be forgiven for | :04:39. | :04:43. | |
thinking we have stepped back in time. It was for decades ago that | :04:44. | :04:48. | |
Britain experienced a prolonged heatwave and life under a government | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
with a tenuous grip on Parliament. Westminster will be treated to a | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
familiar sight tomorrow, as Her Majesty breaks into Royal Ascot to | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
deliver her delayed Queen's Speech. The pomp and ceremony, slimmed down | :05:01. | :05:05. | |
in the circumstances, will suggest that the ship of state sales on in | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
magisterial style. But this will be a minority government that will have | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
to cut deals to survive. Theresa May had hoped to secure a deal with the | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
DUP by tomorrow. That has still not been agreed, giving a taste of how | :05:20. | :05:24. | |
challenging this parliament will be for the Tories. There is a good | :05:25. | :05:27. | |
chance it will be similar to the 70s, given the government is in a | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
minority. One significant votes, it will need to have a full turnout. It | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
will depend on the measure. Don't forget, the Government is a minority | :05:37. | :05:43. | |
in relation to all other parties, not the opposition. It could be | :05:44. | :05:46. | |
trench warfare in terms of committees, not just on the floor of | :05:47. | :05:49. | |
the house. Labour plans to make life very difficult for the Prime | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
Minister, amid high hopes that a second election may have to be | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
called. Where we have just had a new parliament re-elected and the | :05:59. | :06:00. | |
Conservative manifesto was actually trashed before the election was even | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
over, you wonder why they want to be in power when they don't have a | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
programme. In the end, we have to move forward as a society, with a | :06:10. | :06:13. | |
government that knows what it wants to do, with a programme to make | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
society better, instead of one that is adrift. I think that is the | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
danger, after this election, for the current Conservative government. The | :06:24. | :06:26. | |
Queen will travel along this well trodden route tomorrow, although the | :06:27. | :06:28. | |
day will have a slightly less formal feel about it. His speech will | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
herald a Parliament that will ultimately be defined by Brexit. | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
There will be a series of bills to provide a legal basis for the UK's | :06:38. | :06:43. | |
new life outside the EU. But the election has changed the | :06:44. | :06:46. | |
parliamentary numbers and senior Tories now believe there is a | :06:47. | :06:48. | |
majority to stop a so-called hard Brexit. That is leaving the EU | :06:49. | :06:55. | |
without a deal. The outcome of the election puts tremendous pressure on | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
the Government. Obviously in relation to the actual negotiations | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
themselves, but now in relation to the House of Commons. The pressures | :07:04. | :07:11. | |
its placing on government are twofold, one is in relation to its | :07:12. | :07:14. | |
own supporters, and the other is the House of Commons. To maximise impact | :07:15. | :07:17. | |
it needs to carry the whole house with it. It may need to think about | :07:18. | :07:22. | |
how it achieves that, in terms of keeping the house informed, but also | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
listening to the house. A chastened Theresa May will declare tomorrow | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
she will govern with humility and resolve. In addition to the Brexit | :07:32. | :07:35. | |
legislation, there will be draft bills on domestic violence and | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
tenant fees, designed to attract consensus. The Prime Minister wants | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
to show that, even without a parliamentary majority, she can make | :07:45. | :07:47. | |
a difference. As the Prime Minister said after the election, we got more | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
votes and more seats than anybody else, albeit not the result we | :07:52. | :07:55. | |
wanted. I think it is still a very ambitious Government and there is a | :07:56. | :07:58. | |
lot to get done. Delivering Brexit and also delivering on the domestic | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
agenda, big things that will change peoples lives in a very significant | :08:03. | :08:12. | |
way. Actually, I think there will be quite a lot of consensus in | :08:13. | :08:14. | |
Parliament. Lots of debate about the details, but actually updating | :08:15. | :08:16. | |
mental health legislation, something that I think will have a great deal | :08:17. | :08:19. | |
of sporty consensus. The Queen will be hoping she can return to royal as | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
got after her duties in Parliament. There will be no such relaxation at | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
Westminster. Our once strong and stable Prime Minister will be | :08:28. | :08:33. | |
embarking a dramatic scaling back of her election manifesto in her bid | :08:34. | :08:34. | |
for political survival. Earlier this evening, | :08:35. | :08:37. | |
I spoke to someone who's seen a few Queen's Speeches in his time, | :08:38. | :08:39. | |
the Conservative I asked him what his advice | :08:40. | :08:41. | |
to Theresa May would I think that it's not conceivable | :08:42. | :08:44. | |
that she will lead the Conservatives So I think that the realistic | :08:45. | :08:54. | |
appraisal she has to make is how does she secure the best possible | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
successor for the And that may need a bit | :09:00. | :09:01. | |
of time because two things First of all the who, | :09:02. | :09:06. | |
and there's no obvious choice. Secondly and probably even more | :09:07. | :09:13. | |
important, the what. My guess is general election | :09:14. | :09:18. | |
in the year, 18 months' time, and the period between now and then | :09:19. | :09:26. | |
is going to be dominated by the same issues that have caused the trouble, | :09:27. | :09:29. | |
the continuing austerity In a sense then it doesn't | :09:30. | :09:31. | |
matter what she says, if you think she's not going to be | :09:32. | :09:48. | |
around to implement it or to be I think that the Queen's speech | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
is going to be dominated by the jumbo Brexit Bill | :09:53. | :09:58. | |
and a number of smaller Brexit bills, and everything else | :09:59. | :10:00. | |
will be relatively obscure And if Theresa May goes, | :10:01. | :10:02. | |
does she take her own version I think that the idea of a hard | :10:03. | :10:09. | |
Brexit is not credible. I don't think there is the majority | :10:10. | :10:20. | |
for it in Parliament. We have a split Cabinet, | :10:21. | :10:23. | |
we have a split country. And the opening shot, if you like, | :10:24. | :10:26. | |
yesterday, the first meeting, we lost the argument on the issue | :10:27. | :10:33. | |
of the bill we are We wanted to get on to the trade | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
issues, that are vitally important. The French and the | :10:37. | :10:46. | |
Europeans said no. Do you think Brexit | :10:47. | :10:47. | |
as it stands is dead? In the hard sense that we're | :10:48. | :10:56. | |
going to leave the whole thing and be our own independent sovereign | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
nation, that is simply not the way I think that is very much | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
open to question now. You, sir, are a staunch, | :11:05. | :11:16. | |
unashamed Remainer. There will be many here | :11:17. | :11:19. | |
saying you're just hearing Well, it's not really | :11:20. | :11:22. | |
what I want to hear. Because I'm seeing my | :11:23. | :11:31. | |
country humiliated. You know, though, that a change | :11:32. | :11:34. | |
in leadership would be done by Tory party members | :11:35. | :11:36. | |
and they are overwhelmingly Or do you think that there should | :11:37. | :11:38. | |
be another coronation It would be better if there | :11:39. | :11:50. | |
could be an agreement that wasn't as a consequence | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
of the divisive leadership struggle. Well, the leadership struggle | :11:55. | :11:57. | |
is already beginning. I mean, great protests of unity, | :11:58. | :12:10. | |
we all know the form. But the friends of each | :12:11. | :12:13. | |
of the potential participants are canvassing the House of Commons, | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
looking for support. We are seeing the government, | :12:18. | :12:19. | |
minority government, without yet the support of the DUP, | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
do you think Conservatives are better off with | :12:25. | :12:27. | |
a deal, or without one? I don't think it is relevant, | :12:28. | :12:31. | |
because it won't last long enough Simply the by-election phenomenon, | :12:32. | :12:34. | |
which will start, unavoidably, will reflect public disquiet, | :12:35. | :12:44. | |
which is always there It is a bigger threat than can be | :12:45. | :12:46. | |
met by what looks like a very fragile relationship, | :12:47. | :12:51. | |
if it happens, with the DUP. So is there anything that | :12:52. | :12:56. | |
Theresa May can say tomorrow which would give her the authority | :12:57. | :12:59. | |
to reset the clock and start again? I think it will need | :13:00. | :13:05. | |
a new leader to do that. We did ask the Government | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
for an interview, but they declined. So let's talk to their designated | :13:10. | :13:16. | |
surrogate, Tory MP Chris Philp. Nice to have you here. I suspect | :13:17. | :13:25. | |
there will be a lot of you disagree with in that interview. He painted a | :13:26. | :13:31. | |
picture of a leader on borrowed time? I don't recognise that. There | :13:32. | :13:36. | |
is a lot in Lord Heseltine's comments I disagree with. The two | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
main parties, who got 80% of the vote in the election, both said | :13:42. | :13:43. | |
clearly we are going to leave the European Union, we are going to come | :13:44. | :13:46. | |
out of the customs union and single market. So nothing has to change on | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
the directional Brexit? I don't think so, the two main parties have | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
the same things in their manifesto. Why did your Chancellor today | :13:56. | :13:59. | |
suggest a very different set of priorities? I don't think he did. He | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
said we are leaving the European Union, we are going to be leaving | :14:04. | :14:08. | |
the customs union. He said we would be prioritising the economy in the | :14:09. | :14:11. | |
negotiations. In terms of the free trade deal. There is no change | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
there. If you look at the Lancaster house speech, the Brexit White | :14:17. | :14:19. | |
Paper, it was clear in those documents... Theresa May is going to | :14:20. | :14:22. | |
carry you through a five-year parliament to the next election? You | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
believe that? I haven't got a crystal ball. What is that code for? | :14:28. | :14:32. | |
It is not code for anything. I thought we would vote to Remain and | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
Donald Trump would never become President, so I have given up making | :14:37. | :14:41. | |
political predictions. The 1922 Committee, a week ago, all of my | :14:42. | :14:47. | |
parliamentary colleagues, 320 of us, were cheering the Prime Minister, | :14:48. | :14:50. | |
coming back, having beaten the Labour Party by 60 seats and 1 | :14:51. | :14:54. | |
million votes. We are all firmly behind her. Do you agree the | :14:55. | :14:58. | |
manifesto has been ditched and something has to be much more | :14:59. | :14:59. | |
consensual? I am quite excited for what we can | :15:00. | :15:09. | |
do with that country in the coming years especially helping those on | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
low income and those just about managing. So in the manifesto, in | :15:14. | :15:17. | |
the Queen's Speech I expect confirmation that are going to keep | :15:18. | :15:21. | |
on putting up the minimum wage and raised tax threshold to help those | :15:22. | :15:27. | |
on lower incomes. And police cuts? We've already said that we will | :15:28. | :15:32. | |
protect police budgets. That is different, police funding is the end | :15:33. | :15:35. | |
to specific police cuts which have been going ahead, which we are now | :15:36. | :15:39. | |
hearing will not be taken. So the police budget is to be protected and | :15:40. | :15:46. | |
has been pretty years. There was a proposal to change the way it was | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
allocated between different regions. Will it change direction, we heard a | :15:52. | :15:54. | |
lot of things like she will not come for free school meals for children, | :15:55. | :15:59. | |
or takeaway much-needed funding for police on the front line of terror. | :16:00. | :16:04. | |
I think the message is to learn from the election. But on the terror | :16:05. | :16:11. | |
funding, we are spending ?2 billion extra on anti-terrorism. That was | :16:12. | :16:14. | |
announced a year ago so there is more money going into that. Where | :16:15. | :16:20. | |
are we now with the DUP, you heard Lord Heseltine said was irrelevant | :16:21. | :16:23. | |
because there simply will not be a government for long. I simply do not | :16:24. | :16:29. | |
agree, last week I saw three and interviewed my colleagues | :16:30. | :16:31. | |
enthusiastically supporting the government. Just on the DUP | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
specifically? The deal has not been reached and the government and Prime | :16:36. | :16:41. | |
Ministers have been busy this week with Brexit negotiations and that | :16:42. | :16:43. | |
terrible fire. I'm confident that there will be an agreement reached. | :16:44. | :16:47. | |
And you look forward to that? I think there will be a sensible | :16:48. | :16:52. | |
arrangement. They do not want to see Jeremy Corbyn running the country | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
any more than will -- than we do. Of course it would be a confidence and | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
supply arrangement. Does it make you got going into government with the | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
DUP? It is not the coalition, it is a confident and supply arrangement. | :17:07. | :17:12. | |
And I think that will happen. And we will deliver things like the energy | :17:13. | :17:18. | |
cap to help ordinary families, extra for the NHS and school. Thank you | :17:19. | :17:20. | |
very much. Back to that delayed deal | :17:21. | :17:22. | |
between the Tories and the DUP. In Northern Irish politics the past | :17:23. | :17:24. | |
is rarely another country, and that can make for some uneasy | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
alliances - the DUP as a party come to the table | :17:28. | :17:29. | |
with a fair amount of baggage. John Sweeney has been taking | :17:30. | :17:32. | |
a closer look at who they are, Northern Ireland is part | :17:33. | :17:35. | |
of the United Kingdom but some of what happens here is quite | :17:36. | :17:57. | |
different to what goes It is the preparations | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
for a bloody good bonfire, to celebrate the victory | :18:02. | :18:09. | |
of a Protestant king against a Catholic King, | :18:10. | :18:11. | |
in the 17th century. Theresa May's government | :18:12. | :18:20. | |
cannot survive long without the support of ten MPs | :18:21. | :18:23. | |
from the Democratic Unionist Party. The DUP was founded by the late | :18:24. | :18:27. | |
Reverend Ian Paisley in 1971 when both sides of the sectarian | :18:28. | :18:33. | |
divide reached for their guns. And this the late | :18:34. | :18:40. | |
Martin McGuinness - once the chief of staff - | :18:41. | :18:46. | |
and much later, Northern Ireland's And this was Gregory Campbell, | :18:47. | :18:49. | |
with his legally held revolver. Today he is one | :18:50. | :18:57. | |
of the DUP's ten MPs. You either be killed | :18:58. | :19:01. | |
by them, or kill them. Sam McBride reports | :19:02. | :19:03. | |
for the main loyalist newspaper There is no sense that the DUP | :19:04. | :19:13. | |
is anywhere near as closely aligned to loyalist paramilitaries | :19:14. | :19:22. | |
as Sinn Fein would I think the relationship | :19:23. | :19:24. | |
between the DUP and loyalist paramilitaries or those who are very | :19:25. | :19:27. | |
close to loyalist paramilitaries But because Number Ten needs | :19:28. | :19:29. | |
the DUP, the spotlight is fiercely In particular the Ulster Defence | :19:30. | :19:35. | |
Association, the UDA. Banned in 1992 but still | :19:36. | :19:43. | |
very much in business. The troubles are over, but | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
the killing is not ancient history. Late last month a man | :19:50. | :19:52. | |
called Colin Horner, who people said was an activist | :19:53. | :19:54. | |
in the UDA, took his little boy shopping | :19:55. | :19:57. | |
in the Sainsbury's behind me. Shopping done, the little boy | :19:58. | :20:00. | |
was in the car when a man came up It is believed this is an internal | :20:01. | :20:04. | |
power struggle in the UDA. A few days later, Arlene Foster, | :20:05. | :20:09. | |
the leader of the DUP, meets Jackie McDonald, | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
who many people believe is the effective leader of the UDA | :20:14. | :20:16. | |
in Northern Ireland. So at its most charitable, | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
this does not look good for the DUP, or the people | :20:22. | :20:24. | |
they are negotiating with. Arlene Foster was at her | :20:25. | :20:30. | |
feisty best when tackled about the paramilitaries | :20:31. | :20:35. | |
during the election. We condemn utterly the murder | :20:36. | :20:39. | |
that occurred on Sunday. Such a horrific murder | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
in front of a child, who will never be able | :20:44. | :20:45. | |
to get over that. That will stay with that child | :20:46. | :20:48. | |
for the rest of his young life. Just to be clear, that the UDA, | :20:49. | :20:52. | |
the UVF and every paramilitary organisation should be | :20:53. | :20:55. | |
out of existence. Did you say that to Jackie McDonald | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
yesterday when you met him? I had no need to say | :21:00. | :21:02. | |
it to Jackie McDonald. Jackie McDonald knows my views | :21:03. | :21:04. | |
very, very clearly. If people want to move away | :21:05. | :21:07. | |
from criminality, from terrorism, But anyone who is engaged in this | :21:08. | :21:09. | |
sort of activity should stop, should desist, and if they don't, | :21:10. | :21:16. | |
they should be open Alistair Ross was a DUP Minister | :21:17. | :21:19. | |
in the Northern Ireland I can understand why that | :21:20. | :21:27. | |
reception looked pretty bad, but of course many politicians | :21:28. | :21:36. | |
in all parties are working with people in difficult | :21:37. | :21:38. | |
to reach communities. And actually most of the last ten | :21:39. | :21:40. | |
years has been a criticism of politicians for not engaging | :21:41. | :21:43. | |
with people and trying to move them Just before the election, | :21:44. | :21:46. | |
the Loyalist Communities Council, widely held to speak for the UDA, | :21:47. | :21:54. | |
the UVF and the Red Hand commando, issued a statement, calling | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
for every unionist to vote for three Nigel Dodds, Gavin Robinson, | :21:59. | :22:00. | |
and Emma Little-Pengelly. The DUP told Newsnight | :22:01. | :22:10. | |
that the party had rejected the endorsement, and that applied | :22:11. | :22:15. | |
to the three MPs. Did these MPs, did they say, no | :22:16. | :22:21. | |
thank you, we don't want your help? I think Emma Little-Pengelly | :22:22. | :22:24. | |
actually posted something on Facebook just after | :22:25. | :22:27. | |
the endorsement where she certainly wasn't saying that she welcomed it, | :22:28. | :22:30. | |
but there was an implicit acceptance of it where she was effectively | :22:31. | :22:36. | |
saying that just as loyalists have a past, it doesn't mean | :22:37. | :22:38. | |
they shouldn't have a future. She was I suppose giving a nod | :22:39. | :22:44. | |
and a wink to those people that she accepted their endorsement, | :22:45. | :22:48. | |
she wasn't going to Other DUP figures in other parts | :22:49. | :22:50. | |
of Northern Ireland were not so happy with it and were very keen | :22:51. | :22:53. | |
to get out there that really I want to thank the people | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
of Taughmonagh... In her victory speech, | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
Little-Pengelly thanked specific Starting with Taughmonagh, | :23:02. | :23:03. | |
which so happens to be the home turf This is an incredible day | :23:04. | :23:09. | |
for unionism in south Belfast. This is the future | :23:10. | :23:15. | |
of Northern Ireland. Behind me there they are putting | :23:16. | :23:25. | |
together wind turbines. But we have just spoken | :23:26. | :23:28. | |
to somebody whose words take us He is a Protestant who has been | :23:29. | :23:30. | |
a victim of UDA violence, and he says the UDA and the DUP | :23:31. | :23:37. | |
are far too close. He says he has seen with his | :23:38. | :23:43. | |
own eyes the UDA get Because he was afraid | :23:44. | :23:45. | |
of what might happen to him In Northern Ireland both sides | :23:46. | :23:54. | |
in politics know people But only one side is going to keep | :23:55. | :24:03. | |
Theresa May in power. We have just finished a meeting | :24:04. | :24:09. | |
with the British Prime Minister And we told her very directly | :24:10. | :24:15. | |
that she was in breach Will fringe elements of the IRA keep | :24:16. | :24:20. | |
sitting on their hands? The bad news is that the marching | :24:21. | :24:32. | |
season is about to start and the nationalist hard man | :24:33. | :24:34. | |
who secured peace, Newsnight asked the DUP | :24:35. | :24:37. | |
about this allegation. A spokesperson said that there can | :24:38. | :24:48. | |
be no place for any paramilitary And it is easier for unnamed sources | :24:49. | :24:51. | |
to make allegations than to present We asked for an interview | :24:52. | :24:56. | |
with the three DUP MPs endorsed Britain's Serious Fraud Office has | :24:57. | :25:02. | |
defied critics who accuse it of failing to pursue those | :25:03. | :25:10. | |
at the top by criminally charging Barclays and four | :25:11. | :25:12. | |
former senior managers. The charges were over | :25:13. | :25:16. | |
undisclosed Barclays payments to Qatari Investors during emergency | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
fundraising in 2008 that allowed the bank to turn down a state | :25:21. | :25:23. | |
bailout at the height The move surprised many - | :25:24. | :25:25. | |
and of course there have as yet been no convictions - | :25:26. | :25:32. | |
but it may be a defining cathartic moment for those who believed | :25:33. | :25:36. | |
the big were too big to fail - Once the public's lust for justice | :25:37. | :25:39. | |
was carried out in Execution Dock Today a commemorative | :25:40. | :25:49. | |
gallows swings within sight There an industry that has in recent | :25:50. | :25:56. | |
years certainly felt the scorching But this is a different kind | :25:57. | :26:02. | |
of public spectacle. The Serious Fraud Office has charged | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
Barclays and four of its former The charges relate to ?12 billion | :26:08. | :26:10. | |
in emergency funds raised by the bank from Qatari investors | :26:11. | :26:16. | |
in the midst of The seriousness of it comes | :26:17. | :26:19. | |
about for two reasons. One is the seniority | :26:20. | :26:27. | |
of the people who now, for them, unfortunately find themselves | :26:28. | :26:29. | |
in the dock. And secondly, because the SFO has | :26:30. | :26:31. | |
chosen to charge Barclays itself as a corporate entity | :26:32. | :26:34. | |
with a criminal offence. And I cannot think of another | :26:35. | :26:35. | |
example where the Serious Fraud Office has brought criminal charges | :26:36. | :26:38. | |
against a household and global household name like it | :26:39. | :26:41. | |
has in this instance. The bank and four former Barclays | :26:42. | :26:49. | |
executives face charges of conspiracy to commit fraud | :26:50. | :26:52. | |
by false representation relating to a first | :26:53. | :27:05. | |
deal in June 2008. The bank and former chief | :27:06. | :27:07. | |
executive John Varley as well as Roger Jenkins, | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
a key deal-maker, face the same charge relating to another | :27:12. | :27:13. | |
October 2008 fundraising. They are also charged | :27:14. | :27:15. | |
with what is called unlawful Fraud by false representation refers | :27:16. | :27:17. | |
to ?322 million paid to Qatar for The allegation is that these | :27:18. | :27:27. | |
payments were not all But for some the issue goes | :27:28. | :27:31. | |
beyond a simple disclosure one. Fundamentally the issue | :27:32. | :27:39. | |
is not one of disclosure, And a criminal charge of fraud | :27:40. | :27:41. | |
by way of misrepresentation requires the prosecution, | :27:42. | :27:50. | |
the SFO, to show that those it says acted wrongly, | :27:51. | :27:52. | |
acted in a dishonest fashion. It is the element of dishonesty that | :27:53. | :27:57. | |
moves this from a regulatory investigation conducted, | :27:58. | :27:59. | |
for example, by the Financial Conduct Authority, | :28:00. | :28:01. | |
into a criminal prosecution. The second charges is unlawful | :28:02. | :28:16. | |
financial assistance. That alleges that Barclays | :28:17. | :28:21. | |
in November 2008 lent And in doing so Barclays effectively | :28:22. | :28:22. | |
provided some of the funds The most damning part of this | :28:23. | :28:26. | |
is the financial assistance. So if you look at the companies act | :28:27. | :28:30. | |
2006, what you find is a section there which says that a company | :28:31. | :28:33. | |
cannot lend money to another financial vehicle company and that | :28:34. | :28:36. | |
other companies then buys the shares So this is what was | :28:37. | :28:39. | |
allegedly happening here. Where Barclays was giving money | :28:40. | :28:45. | |
to a Qatari investment vehicle, and that vehicle was then buying | :28:46. | :28:48. | |
shares of Barclays Now, this is problematic because it | :28:49. | :28:50. | |
dilutes the capital base of the first company and if things | :28:51. | :29:03. | |
go wrong, both of the companies The irony is that thanks to this | :29:04. | :29:06. | |
deal, Barclays did not need public money when its peers | :29:07. | :29:10. | |
were bailed out. And these charges have nothing | :29:11. | :29:12. | |
at all to do with the causes As much as anything | :29:13. | :29:14. | |
Barclays' old hard charging And the lengths it was prepared | :29:15. | :29:17. | |
to go to to avoid public ownership. Andre Spicer did some work | :29:18. | :29:24. | |
with Barclays around changing its culture | :29:25. | :29:27. | |
following the crisis. I guess the step is showing | :29:28. | :29:33. | |
that they are able to hold The big danger, which has | :29:34. | :29:36. | |
happened now, is the banks seem to have said yes, | :29:37. | :29:40. | |
we have de-risked our business, yes, we have become more ethical, yes, | :29:41. | :29:42. | |
we have got these lovely posters which show us how caring | :29:43. | :29:45. | |
and kind they are. But have they really | :29:46. | :29:47. | |
change their culture internally? Or are we beginning to see some | :29:48. | :29:54. | |
of the bad practices seep back in? And are we just going to see a sort | :29:55. | :29:58. | |
of repeat of some of the problems The Barclays of today is keen to put | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
the Qatar fundraising behind it. The bank said it is considering its | :30:03. | :30:06. | |
position in relation to the charges. Mr Jenkins and another executive, | :30:07. | :30:09. | |
Richard Both, said they contest Mr Varley and the fourth executive | :30:10. | :30:12. | |
have yet to comment. They will appear in | :30:13. | :30:15. | |
court on July the 3rd. Now, since the Grenfell fire last | :30:16. | :30:21. | |
week, we have been looking at the role that the new cladding | :30:22. | :30:23. | |
around the building may have played. Yesterday we reported that local | :30:24. | :30:26. | |
councils had been asked by the Government to report back | :30:27. | :30:28. | |
on the status of high rise Our Policy Editor Chris Cook | :30:29. | :30:31. | |
is here with the latest on that. Where are we? The news is, as you | :30:32. | :30:46. | |
say, we had the Government had asked local authorities to investigate | :30:47. | :30:52. | |
their own blocks and housing associations. They asked them to | :30:53. | :30:55. | |
send any samples of aluminium cladding they had to make sure it | :30:56. | :31:01. | |
was not the sort of cladding we saw at Grenfell, aluminium cladding with | :31:02. | :31:05. | |
a plastic cork, that was not the better, more fireproof cladding. | :31:06. | :31:10. | |
Actually, the situation might be better than we feared last week. We | :31:11. | :31:14. | |
know that in Scotland they have not found any, through their own | :31:15. | :31:17. | |
processes, nor in Northern Ireland. We know in Birmingham, Leeds, | :31:18. | :31:22. | |
restore, Wolverhampton, we have not found any. Manchester have almost | :31:23. | :31:26. | |
finished their audit and have not found any. There were five blocks in | :31:27. | :31:29. | |
Newcastle, where they were sending samples. There were 13 in Camden in | :31:30. | :31:34. | |
London, three in new and three in barn, sending samples to test to see | :31:35. | :31:42. | |
whether it is dangerous or not. They have already had the results back? | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
The sending of samples is reassuring? Well, we haven't had the | :31:47. | :31:55. | |
samples back. Only in the case of Barnett do we think it is the | :31:56. | :32:01. | |
dangerous plastic cladding. That is the only case where we think there | :32:02. | :32:03. | |
is prior reason to believe that is the case. Even in those cases, they | :32:04. | :32:08. | |
are installed in a different way, they are surrounded by more | :32:09. | :32:11. | |
fireproof material than was used at Grenfell and they have regular fire | :32:12. | :32:15. | |
breaking. Even if something went wrong, it should hopefully be | :32:16. | :32:18. | |
better. I appreciate if you live in one of these blocks, it is worrying | :32:19. | :32:23. | |
and frightening. We have a picture of a quite troubling fire from | :32:24. | :32:29. | |
Camden from 2012. As you can see, a pensioner's flat got absolutely | :32:30. | :32:32. | |
gutted. This is in one of the blocks of flats where Camden has sent | :32:33. | :32:38. | |
material to be tested at the government laboratory. I don't know | :32:39. | :32:43. | |
if you saw that picture, the window was scorched, but it didn't spread, | :32:44. | :32:47. | |
it was contained. Even these flats that have the aluminium cladding, | :32:48. | :32:51. | |
they may be fine. Reassuring. Thank you very much. | :32:52. | :32:58. | |
The day the Sun newspaper went full anti-Corbyn and splashed COR-BIN | :32:59. | :33:03. | |
across it's front page there were - anecdotally - reports | :33:04. | :33:06. | |
Copies of the paper picked up not by those who agreed with it - | :33:07. | :33:10. | |
but by a whole younger crowd collecting them to set them | :33:11. | :33:13. | |
In years to come,this election may come to be | :33:14. | :33:16. | |
The point at which the old media - all of us - lost our power. | :33:17. | :33:21. | |
Younger voters relied on their newsfeeds, | :33:22. | :33:24. | |
full of stories that older generations simply werent seeing. | :33:25. | :33:30. | |
So are the days when it was The Sun What Won it truly over? | :33:31. | :33:33. | |
The BBC's media editor Amol Rajan reports. | :33:34. | :33:48. | |
As you may have noticed, Theresa May wasn't returned | :33:49. | :33:52. | |
to Downing Street with a thumping majority on June the 9th, | :33:53. | :33:56. | |
despite all the warnings about the alternative | :33:57. | :33:57. | |
from what we still call Fleet Street. | :33:58. | :33:59. | |
We've had enough of Jezza's rubbish, vote Tory! | :34:00. | :34:06. | |
Britain's newspapers aren't used to being defied. | :34:07. | :34:08. | |
Once upon a time, when the papers spoke, the country listened. | :34:09. | :34:12. | |
If Kinnock wins today, will the last person to leave | :34:13. | :34:14. | |
We don't want to influence you in your final judgment | :34:15. | :34:21. | |
on who will be Prime Minister, but if it's a bald bloke with wispy | :34:22. | :34:24. | |
red hair and two Ks in his surname, we'll see you at the airport! | :34:25. | :34:29. | |
Or, at least of the country appeared to have listened, | :34:30. | :34:31. | |
But, news just in, print titles aren't the political power | :34:32. | :34:38. | |
I have to hand it to Kelvin MacKenzie. | :34:39. | :34:46. | |
Back in 92 he said, will the last person turn the lights off | :34:47. | :34:49. | |
and essentially claimed all the credit for the Conservative | :34:50. | :34:51. | |
In fact, that was probably the high point of influence of newspapers. | :34:52. | :35:00. | |
There were other factors, they just got overwhelmed | :35:01. | :35:02. | |
I think since then, relatively speaking, | :35:03. | :35:07. | |
newspapers' influence has certainly declined. | :35:08. | :35:11. | |
It's not irrelevant, but other voices, as you say, | :35:12. | :35:14. | |
in a fragmented media landscape, have become more important. | :35:15. | :35:22. | |
There is unanimous agreement that, with declining circulations | :35:23. | :35:24. | |
and the shift to online, newspapers are weaker | :35:25. | :35:25. | |
They don't have an overall majority at this stage. | :35:26. | :35:29. | |
But perhaps the election of June 2017 was a turning point | :35:30. | :35:31. | |
Going into the campaign, Theresa May generally received | :35:32. | :35:37. | |
fawning coverage of a kind her predecessors could only dream of, | :35:38. | :35:40. | |
while Jeremy Corbyn was pilloried as an anachronistic idealist. | :35:41. | :35:43. | |
Revealed: Corbyn's manifesto to take Britain back to 1970s! | :35:44. | :35:53. | |
And yet, for the first time in perhaps four decades, | :35:54. | :35:56. | |
the likes of Rupert Murdoch and Lord Rothermere did not get | :35:57. | :35:58. | |
the result they wanted, even though the PM was reinstalled | :35:59. | :36:01. | |
Stephen, do you think Fleet Street underestimated Jeremy Corbyn? | :36:02. | :36:04. | |
Yes, there is no doubt that they did. | :36:05. | :36:06. | |
Not just Fleet Street, I mean half of the Labour Party | :36:07. | :36:08. | |
most of the Tory party, most of the chattering | :36:09. | :36:11. | |
Yet at one of the haunts favoured by hacks in years gone by, | :36:12. | :36:21. | |
Stephen Glover of the Daily Mail warns that the influence | :36:22. | :36:24. | |
I think people are often, particularly on the left, | :36:25. | :36:27. | |
in danger of exaggerating the power of the right-wing press, | :36:28. | :36:29. | |
as though the right-wing press decide the outcome of elections. | :36:30. | :36:32. | |
If you look back to the 1990s, when Blair was courting | :36:33. | :36:36. | |
The Sun and Rupert Murdoch, and in those days The Sun | :36:37. | :36:39. | |
was selling twice as many copies as it does now. | :36:40. | :36:42. | |
Well, I think that The Sun was following Blair as much | :36:43. | :36:45. | |
as Blair was The Sun, and The Sun knew that some change | :36:46. | :36:48. | |
was going on in society and it felt it from its readers. | :36:49. | :36:51. | |
Like the Mail, the Daily Telegraph has historically been intimate | :36:52. | :36:57. | |
Its editor argues that Jeremy Corbyn got the coverage he deserved. | :36:58. | :37:02. | |
We were surprised that Mrs May didn't win a majority, | :37:03. | :37:05. | |
We endorsed her because she was closest to our values. | :37:06. | :37:10. | |
That's not to say that our support was unqualified. | :37:11. | :37:12. | |
We said throughout the campaign that she should have talked | :37:13. | :37:14. | |
I think it was a failure not to do so, they have a strong | :37:15. | :37:19. | |
record on the economy, a good story to tell, they didn't. | :37:20. | :37:22. | |
Interestingly, the failure to do that did help Corbyn. | :37:23. | :37:27. | |
I think you can look at things like Facebook and say, | :37:28. | :37:30. | |
when you got a message such as Corbyn's, where you are making | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
specific offers, to specific interest groups of more money, | :37:34. | :37:35. | |
it's possible that people who use Facebook only find the bit | :37:36. | :37:38. | |
that relates to them, the offer of more money | :37:39. | :37:40. | |
for their particular interest groups, and they don't see | :37:41. | :37:42. | |
the overarching narrative that if we were to try | :37:43. | :37:44. | |
and deliver all that money, then we would soon become Venezuela. | :37:45. | :37:51. | |
# We've had enough of broken promises... | :37:52. | :38:00. | |
August titles like the Telegraph and Mail have to reckon | :38:01. | :38:02. | |
In an industrial park off the Old Kent Road in London, | :38:03. | :38:07. | |
not far from Peckham, Labour Party member Aaron Bastani | :38:08. | :38:10. | |
has, together with fellow comrades, launched Novara Media, | :38:11. | :38:12. | |
a left-wing antidote to what he sees as the prevailing | :38:13. | :38:14. | |
So, Labour have just increased their share of the vote by 9%. | :38:15. | :38:23. | |
This marks a watershed moment for the modern Labour Party. | :38:24. | :38:26. | |
I call myself a libertarian communist. | :38:27. | :38:29. | |
I've also called myself a fully automated luxury communist. | :38:30. | :38:32. | |
People that own newspapers and, sadly, many people that write | :38:33. | :38:35. | |
for those same newspapers simply don't understand how | :38:36. | :38:37. | |
difficult life is for so many in 21st-century Britain. | :38:38. | :38:41. | |
The likes of Novara harness the viral power of Facebook | :38:42. | :38:43. | |
in particular to advance an unfiltered worldview. | :38:44. | :38:47. | |
But are they hacks in the traditional sense? | :38:48. | :38:49. | |
Aren't you in danger of not really being a journalist, | :38:50. | :38:52. | |
but being either an activist or a propagandist? | :38:53. | :38:56. | |
I wear those commitments very publicly. | :38:57. | :39:00. | |
I think, actually, far more journalists in Britain | :39:01. | :39:02. | |
are politically committed than they dare admit. | :39:03. | :39:04. | |
The point is, I'm honest and open about it. | :39:05. | :39:06. | |
I think the challenge for many people in the media | :39:07. | :39:14. | |
print and broadcast, is to be very clear and open | :39:15. | :39:17. | |
?10,000 and you can essentially have a TV channel | :39:18. | :39:22. | |
Whether you are Novara Media, whether you are The Financial Times | :39:23. | :39:29. | |
What I'd say to anybody watching this is, go out and do it yourself. | :39:30. | :39:35. | |
Let them come forth and bring forth their blogs. | :39:36. | :39:38. | |
As Mirror editor Lloyd Embley points out, national papers do themselves | :39:39. | :39:43. | |
I think it is a watershed in some respects. | :39:44. | :39:47. | |
But I think it's wrong to suggest that Fleet Street can't and doesn't | :39:48. | :39:51. | |
The Mirror has always supported Labour, but last year even | :39:52. | :39:54. | |
they stuck the proverbial boot into Corbyn. | :39:55. | :39:56. | |
Go! Now! | :39:57. | :39:59. | |
In the context of the problem that he was having with the MPs | :40:00. | :40:02. | |
and his Parliamentary Labour Party, at that point, we felt | :40:03. | :40:04. | |
that it was so disruptive that it would not be beneficial | :40:05. | :40:07. | |
But, at the time, that was the basis for what we said. | :40:08. | :40:17. | |
The Mirror and Corbyn have now made up. | :40:18. | :40:24. | |
The deputy editor of another title that warmed to Corbyn | :40:25. | :40:26. | |
acknowledges that his canny use of new alternative media was key. | :40:27. | :40:29. | |
You can put stuff out there, unmediated. | :40:30. | :40:30. | |
Also, you don't have to give up access in exchange | :40:31. | :40:33. | |
for the size of your audience, which was always the trade-off that | :40:34. | :40:36. | |
a left-wing politician had to make before. | :40:37. | :40:37. | |
They had to say, OK, The Sun are probably going to be | :40:38. | :40:40. | |
quite hostile to me, but I need to reach their readers. | :40:41. | :40:43. | |
Actually, they found a way now, I think Jeremy Corbyn's Facebook | :40:44. | :40:45. | |
page has got 1.1 million likes on it, to reach a tabloid sized | :40:46. | :40:49. | |
audience without having to go through those editorial hoops. | :40:50. | :40:51. | |
Before you pronounce print's influence dead, | :40:52. | :40:53. | |
it's worth bearing in mind the Tory manifesto acceded to many | :40:54. | :40:55. | |
And let's not forget the outcome of another big vote recently. | :40:56. | :40:59. | |
Your country needs you! Vote leave today! | :41:00. | :41:03. | |
In terms of the influence of the press, I think | :41:04. | :41:05. | |
that is probably the most significant example in recent times | :41:06. | :41:08. | |
of where the printed press did have an influence. | :41:09. | :41:11. | |
If there is a broad dividing line in British media, it is that | :41:12. | :41:16. | |
print is for the old and online is for the young. | :41:17. | :41:19. | |
Ever since I been a journalist, newspapers have always wanted | :41:20. | :41:27. | |
to appeal to the young, and they've always failed. | :41:28. | :41:30. | |
When they do try to strain to hard towards younger readers, | :41:31. | :41:32. | |
they find that younger readers don't buy them, because many young | :41:33. | :41:35. | |
people aren't interested in buying printed newspapers. | :41:36. | :41:37. | |
They also disenchant their existing readers. | :41:38. | :41:38. | |
If we all say the world is completely atomised, | :41:39. | :41:40. | |
I think that's what newspapers, great newspapers have always done. | :41:41. | :41:46. | |
They've had a strong sense of community. | :41:47. | :41:50. | |
We all have to recognise that we don't have a monopoly now. | :41:51. | :41:53. | |
We've got new forces, disruptive forces, are have | :41:54. | :41:55. | |
fundamentally changing the media landscape. | :41:56. | :42:05. | |
Whether the next generation cares about what the papers | :42:06. | :42:07. | |
But they are breaking and remaking news as we know it. | :42:08. | :42:12. | |
So, will the last person to leave Fleet Street please | :42:13. | :42:15. | |
That is it for tonight. As Glastonbury approaches, we leave you | :42:16. | :42:28. | |
with this charming bit of nepotism from Dave Grohl, who promoted his | :42:29. | :42:35. | |
daughter, Harper, in front of 20,000 people. | :42:36. | :42:40. | |
# Playing in the street, going to be a big man Sunday | :42:41. | :42:51. | |
# You've got mud on your face # You big disgrace | :42:52. | :42:55. | |
# Kicking your can all over the place | :42:56. | :42:55. | |
# We will, we Will rock you! Very good evening to you. Many parts | :42:56. | :43:19. | |
of the country had a beautiful day today, particularly in the | :43:20. | :43:20. |