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Welcome to Newswatch. Later in the programme - Jeremy Paxman is known

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as a combat if the interviewer but has he gone too far? That is what

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we see to use for the credibility... Is this some sort of joke? With

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have almost become used to a state of political turmoil in countries

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such as Egypt, Libya and Syria since the first spark of revolution

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at the end of 2010. The Arab Spring, this series of popular uprisings

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has proved a uniquely difficult time for broadcasters to cover.

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Nobody saw it coming on quite the scale. The unpredictability has

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been one challenge. Events have been moving so quickly in different

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locations. Another difficulty has been safety. Have to get close

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enough to the story without putting yourself in danger. Correspondence

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have taken significant risks to get the report out, such as this report

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a's piece from Homs in Syria and the dispatches from Ian panel in

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Syria. The risks, logistical and editorial challenges, will clearly

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remain for a while, but has the BBC given as full and ballast a picture

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as possible of the Arab Spring? On Monday the BBC Trust published a

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review of the coverage of the Arab Spring followed by a report written

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by a Middle East expert. The overseer of the report joins the

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now. What did the trust fund as a result of this research in this

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report? I think the overwhelming. The trustees want to make in the

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first instance is that the coverage is remarkable. The BBC were

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covering of random events happening in a huge geographical area and

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volunteers were going in from the BBC into great places of danger and

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risking their lives. These are interesting countries because full

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uprisings did not happen. Why? Jordan, Morocco. There are other

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big countries, like Saudi Arabia, where it is very difficult to get

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in. Did it get the coverage it deserves? And then you look at the

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countries where there were uprisings like Egypt. What happened

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between the spring and the awesome? Some would say that they could have

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been done more to explain what was going on. So when a fence -- events

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flared up in Devon there again people knew why. Is there a danger

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that journalists go off chasing the next begin courses story and

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sometimes forget the last one? There is always a risk when there

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are dramatic events and there are great pictures. Audiences love

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dramatic pictures and they like getting engaged with real events. I

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think everybody recognises the need to do the more dull events and that

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is one other finding of the report. It could be helpful if the news

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division can sound back and take issue strategic look and check that

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gaps are not an emerging. Is there a problem of that historically the

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BBC has believed its editors of individual programmes should have

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the freedom to edit and there is an obvious tension between that

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freedom to edit and the executive standing back and sometimes

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interfering? I think that is a genuine problem. BBC management

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recognise it. You really want editors to have the freedom to

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express the individuality of their own programme on behalf of their

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own audiences and yet if everybody is doing the amazing protest that

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is happening today in the streets of Syria, but not a single one of

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them is saying who was making up the opposition in Syria and are

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they arming themselves and are they part of the violence, these trends

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emerge but did they emerge early enough? That is one of the

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questions. That is why you would expect the stand back look by the

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management with the editors, of course, and the Middle East Editor

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having a look and saying, there is something missing. That should be a

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continuing process. In a way, editorial advice from senior

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executives? I think it will affect not just the Arab Spring but will

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impact on all the big stories. Thank you Crowe. Many of the points

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raised in the review have a bin -- echoing in with the comments by

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Newswatch viewers. At the height of the coverage of Libya last autumn,

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Paul Smith e-mailed with some sarcasm. Viewers have complained of

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insufficient reporting over the last 18 months, such as Bahrain.

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With me to discuss this is the BBC's deputy director of news,

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Steve Mitchell. We have heard from Fran O'Brien that the BBC Trust

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completely admires the remarkable coverage of the Arab Spring, says

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it was largely impartial and salutes the courage of BBC

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journalists in getting it but they say it can be improved and one

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complaint is that there was a tendency to go from one big story

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to another and forgetting maybe what has happened in some of the

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others. Is that fair? We have looked at the report and we

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probably think that is a fair criticism in part. Edward Mortimer

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was able to review a lot of our output but not all of our output

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and we did return to the Egyptian story after the fall of Hosni

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Mubarak. There was a period of some weeks where you did not? Their way

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up here is when we did not an especially peeress when what was

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going on in Egypt did not appear on the main television bulletins.

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is not to say that it was not been recorded elsewhere but it is true

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that we were very focused on other, major breaking stories including a

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war in which we were involved in Libya, a tsunami in Japan. That is

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our problem, always, of course, to try to get the balance right

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between major breaking events, which news bulletins by definition

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have to tell the audience about and returning to stories which reached

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a peak earlier but up offers the continuing to unfold. Could you, as

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the Trust implies, perhaps have given more context on the main

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bulletins, where most people receive the news? Again, the issue

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is largely about space rather than intent. Our bulletins are

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distinguished by the amount of context and background that we try

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to give the audiences but they are of limited duration and the

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logistics of that means that sometimes we haven't the space to

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do as much context as we would like but personally I think we probably

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could have done more to explain some of the more nuanced issues

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around all of the events in the Middle East and we will learn from

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what Edward Mortimer has found. Just occasionally perhaps too much

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enthusiasm from the camp of the rebels, which is understandable

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because that is where often the reporters were when covering a

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story? I think by definition there was a lot of enthusiasm on the

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streets in the Middle East and our reporters on the ground were

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reflecting and reporting on that but I do not think any of our

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people were carried away by that and I do not think our journalism

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as it was edited in London over emphasised that. We will always

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making it clear of what the fewest were seeing was, the fence in one

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square in Cairo, but there is a huge country and there with a huge

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range of opinions -- offence. Looking back says our coverage we

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were careful to make that point throughout. Do you accept that

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another suggestion from the Trust, that senior executives such as

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yourself should have built into the system stand back moments to review,

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to see whether the context has been properly explained or what? Yes, I

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do accept that. I can accept it on my own behalf. I think that is part

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of what I should be doing as I am responsible for a range of

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programmes which are not all subject to the constraints of space

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that I have described on the main television bulletins. So probably,

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someone like me personally should have been saying to some of the

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programmes or programmes on radio or online, maybe we should go back

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to these stories and maybe we should do a little more context. It

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consistent use of the word regime, which few was think can be

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pejorative. We have agreed to take that word to one side and think

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about it impact on -- its impact on a different audiences. We need to

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be quite careful about where we come to with this. Thank you. Time

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for one more comment and it relates to interview conducted on Tuesday's

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Newsnight by Jeremy Paxman. The guest, in some people's eyes, the

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victim, was junior Treasury minister Chloe Smith, there to

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defend the deferral of the planned rise in fuel duty. You are here to

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defend a change of policy and you cannot even tell me when you were

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told what a change of policy was. am not able to give a running

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commentary. I am not asking for a running commentary. I am asking for

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a statement of facts. There were told sometime today. Was it before

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or after lunch? Is it hard for you defend this policy? Which

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department is going to come from? That figure will progress, now in

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they few departments. I will not do that. Do you not know? Are you

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waiting to be told that as well? Te wake up in the morning of thing,

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what am I go in to be told today? Do you ever think you are

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incompetent? The Chancellor and Tory party spin doctors were

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attacked for putting Chloe Smith up front of you put the blame lay

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elsewhere according to this viewer, who described it as Jeremy Paxman

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