Episode 5 Nolan Live

Paramilitaries here still ruling the roost.

But should police work with community leaders

with paramilitary links or is time to take a harder line?

We have the amazing story of a woman on the road to recovery

We'll also be debating how old is too old for skimpy swimwear

and talking to the brainboxes from hit quiz show The Chase.

And it's all in front of a live Nolan audience.

The blueprint for getting rid of paramilitaries once

Among the proposals in the independent panel report

is that the Executive helps former terrorists in relation to jobs,

financial services and travel, including visas to the USA.

And it says the Executive and PSNI should review how they engage

One of the authors of the report told me earlier today that the UVF,

Why is that the case 18 years on from the Good Friday Agreement

and why are some communities still in the grip of fear because

Is that the reality for us, they still rule the roost? They still

inflict fear? They are not frightened of anyone? It would

appear so. The INLA used to stand for I Never Leave Ireland Alive.

They clearly feel they have an influence over people. You see some

progress apparently being made by the police and people getting

arrested. You nearly always expect the news the next day that the

person has been released and nothing is advanced. You expect trouble all

cars to be burnt out and, David, how have we got to the stage where the

paramilitaries seem to have the upper hand? Or is that fair? That is

the real question 18 years after the Good Friday agreement why we haven't

moved, from a culture of lawfulness to a culture of lawlessness. You

were Justice Minister for years, let me remind you. We didn't need a

report to point that out so what is going on that we can't as a

society... That politicians can't put them where they need to be, or

the police? The courts can put people where they need to be. I

suspect it's because evidence isn't available. We are seeking to move

forward. We did a lot of work around organised crime which, if we can get

the funding for the appropriate level of campaign, we will explain

to people that the dodgy DVD that they think is a bargain is actually

funding paramilitary activity and sometimes human trafficking because

organised crime and the paramilitary groups run together. One of the big

questions I am asking you at home tonight and in the studio, I'll be

turning to much of a blind eye? Do we think to ourselves, there are

people of influence there so we will turn a blind eye to who they really

are because they can stop some of the troubled they strut with power

in their communities? They are serial killers. If this was

happening anywhere else they would be arrested but here it not

happening. I feel the police and the criminal people are afraid of them

and that's it. Some people might not know who you are and there is a

tragic story behind who you are. Maybe you want to tell them about

your father? My father was shot dead by dissident republicans a few weeks

ago. The people who are a of it having been caught and probably will

be. Why do you say that? It is fear, complete fear. I am Joanne. People

probably know us from the TV and things. It's not just one or two

people. It's groups working together. If the groups are going to

start on everyone else... Your husband was 33. Yes, we had four

kids. Their grief and my own grief. What happened? Well, the night

before it was Sean's 17th birthday and there was a call to the door and

they wanted in. Michael turned and asked what it was about. I got

behind the door and stop them from getting in because the three kids

were upstairs sleeping. It was a birthday so we weren't letting them

in and the police loved the next day. The next day, we went searching

for answers. He wasn't told anything. He wasn't told why they

were after him and what he was supposed to have done. There was no

reason given. We went searching for answers and people Michael thought

he could trust but he couldn't. They came back that afternoon and they

told Michael to meet them at this alleyway at ten o'clock. And in the

alleyway, what did they do to your father? They shot him dead. He bled

to death in my arms. I remember trying so hard to save him. I knew

what they were shouting. In northern Irish society, it is just another

paramilitary attack. It's in the news for a day or two and it

disappears but it's your dad. Do you think the police know the name of

the people or the person who fired the shot? No. I think they know

who's connected but they need that more from people. More evidence. Do

you think people in York community if they could help they would do

that. To some extent. Michael wanted to protect us also. How angry are

you about the attitude towards paramilitary, including the

dissidents? It's disgusting because I don't know how they look at

themselves in the mirror. If I shot somebody I would have blood on my

hands and I wouldn't be able to face the people I loved. That's what they

face every day so I'm happy I don't have to do that. Are you frightened

speaking at against them? Not in so many words. I'm frightened with the

names and stuff and you're not allowed to release any of that,

but... She's doing it for her daddy and we're doing it for Michael. Not

just Michael but everyone else as well. I come back to the first

question, are we in different to this now? The vast majority of us

will feel sorry for you and will empathise, but would we react

differently to a non-paramilitary style murder? Do we take it it is

part and parcel of our society that paramilitaries get away with this?

They do get away with it. They get away with taking protection money to

this very day. Is it all about money and that is why there are doing it?

By the way, the police have given us a statement tonight about this case.

Detective cheese -- Chief Inspector Alan

how the public will be scared to speak out because they have the

upper hand! That is why we need to tackle it at every level. Flags have

been going up this week and people assume it is paramilitaries. It's

done without community consent -- consent. That's part of the rule of

law. That is why we need to ensure we use the report and build on it

and build a culture of lawfulness and we don't tolerate that will stop

you look at the recommendations and you have seen a copy... The

recommendations are that we help some of these paramilitaries get

jobs and go to America! There is an issue about getting individuals away

and some of it may be unpalatable but is better than working with

organisations. Organised crime gang needs to be treated as such and the

full force of the law needs to be applied. But we need to ensure the

Housing executive district manager doesn't tolerate things for a quiet

life and neither does the road service engineer. We have to ensure

we take this report seriously from now and build a complete consensus.

People must have had briefings, so you tell me, what is the extent of

the extortion and racketeering and collection of protection money in

Northern Ireland by these paramilitaries? I haven't had

detailed briefings on that so I can't give you figures. There is

definitely extortion and petty crime becoming major crime, drug dealing

and turf wars over drugs and that is linked to organised crime. I want to

ask, why is it that 18 years after the Good Friday agreement has it

taken so long? It doesn't make sense. Are they trying to get rid of

them? I don't know. Why has it taken so long? They shouldn't be in the

communities. Personally I think there isn't enough being done and

there never will be. We asked the police to come here, by the way, and

the fact they don't even want to discuss this issue on the programme

of how they are policing paramilitaries. They've given a

statement, but it is a big conversation for them that we would

want to have with them. Why on earth would they not come here and what

would they say if they were here is that it's beyond them. That it needs

to be the community working with them. Put the blame on the people. I

don't think they do enough with any information given to the police. I

was born in 1988 -- 1998. OK. I would be proud of the panel's idea

about giving these people jobs because it is only if we can

encourage them to leave terrorism and show them life outside terrorism

that we would get more people to leave and provide a better future

for them and Northern Ireland ultimately. What about our lives? My

money can't go to work because she is left looking after four children.

I don't know why these people who have allsorts of mental disabilities

which I am sure they do, should be able to let go on the streets and

work with people who are saying. I don't understand.

I kind of agree with you. This is mentioned in the report. The police

contact with community leaders, some community leaders will have

influence with paramilitary groups, some of them will have knowledge of

paramilitary groups, some of them might have a deep and intimate

knowledge. Rather than the police sticking them in jail, the police go

up and ask them would they mind keeping some of their boys choir

some nights. It is not just the -- quiet some nights. It is not just

the police. It was clear that certain people were calling to exert

their influence as to what would not happen in terms of opening up

arrangements across an interface structure, which was in disagreement

with local people. The DOJ went to individual houses to talk to people

to get past those gatekeepers and that's what we need to do to stop

people having influence they have no right to do, to ensure the voice of

ordinary people comes through and not the self appointed gangsters who

call themselves community representatives. Some of them are

working tirelessly for peace and absolutely doing it for no money

whatsoever, trying to stop violence, and if they have influences that not

the way to go? Except when you talk to members of the loyalist

paramilitary organisations they come at the same lines about a boring

crime -- how they are poorer crime -- are against crime. The peace

process started with the assumption that you wouldn't wean people off

violence. We are more than 18 years on. It is not working. It started

off with policing predicated on gathering intelligence rather than

evidence so that you could manage things. Therefore there was not a

proper custom of gathering evidence and convicting people. Then you went

into the politics of cutting some slack and there was never a line

drawn that said that sit, game over. The peace process is over. In terms

of paramilitaries, the DUP don't want to talk about how they are

tackling it, Sinn Fein are the same. It is interesting when you look at a

subject like this and you say to those parties in government now, how

are you tackling paramilitaries and they don't have anyone who wants to

talk about that. About people getting killed? About businesses

getting extorted? And you don't think he wants to talk about that?

This report has about 43 recommendations. How are they going

to be implemented in everyday life was like and how are they going to

succeed? What do you think should happen? Let's focus on the issue of

the police liaising with community leaders. If some of those leaders

have links to paramilitaries, is that the right thing to do? I

wouldn't be too sure. What do you think? I was going to say, I was

going to widen it a bit. I was going to say how the PSNI has been wound

down and all the stations have been cut back. Major cutbacks with the

stations. We'll hold that point. Die here, go ahead. -- the guy here.

Their lives have been devastated by criminals and personally I believe

that though police have been pursuing the people who are laying

waste to these societies rather than -- should be pursuing the people

rather than rewarding them for being criminals. Is it strange there are

all these people giving statements but there is no time to send anyone

in? Here is another statement. The question to the police tonight

is shouldn't you be talking to community leaders who have

connection with paramilitaries? Do you think so? I actually think they

should be pursuing them and bringing them before courts. They should be

made to pay for the crimes they are committing in communities. I don't

believe they should be liaising with them. I will certainly give young

people and other option, a way out of that cycle of criminality but

those people committing crimes in their communities absolutely should

not be liaised with, they should be pursued. Do you support the police

liaising with them? I made it clear that we avoided as far as we could,

and clearly there are issues that kept coming up, but we avoided

liaising. Do the police have resources to go after people? No

doubt part of the problem in the last couple of years has been the

reduction of front line community policing because of budget cuts

imposed by the executive. We were supposed to have a funding deal. It

was torn up by the finance department and further cuts were

imposed which meant the police had bigger cuts and they had to withdraw

from the kind of leasing which ensures police officers are on the

ground in places where they are seen to be the people in charge and not

these self appointed gangsters. There is a challenge to get police

officers back in liaison with the real community. I think it might

have gone over the heads of some people, some of the lines in the

report that the UDF, UDA, INLA, they are still recruiting. We have this

fresh start, but they are actively recruiting new people. To do what?

Goodness knows. We had a system where we would allow people some

degree of slack up to a point and it was called the peace process. You

can't criticise the police for meeting with paramilitary leaders

when secretaries of state did so. Tony Blair did. It was in the

grammar of the peace process that was how it would work for a time. It

shouldn't be happening in 2016. You have lost your dad and husband to

paramilitaries. What do you think about the attitude towards

paramilitaries? I would like to say to the police and everybody else,

just everybody, what are we teaching our kids for the future? What did we

say when they are bullied in school? To be not stand up to the Belize and

try overcome our fears? I am terrified of them. They could come

up and shoot us any time. At the same time we have to teach our kids

they can't be ruled by bullies. What are the police doing? Do they not

have the equipment to sort the people out? Are you saying that

police can't help? They are incapable of helping anybody? I'm

not saying they are incapable. The problem is that the cutback in front

line ordinary community policing. I think it is more about fear. It

took them 30 minutes to get to Michael. I was 15 minutes into CPR

before they came. You think he could have been saved? And now we, no. --

in our way. The back row. You said twice on the show about

paramilitaries recruiting. What proof is the journalist given new?

It was the co-author of a report. A report into paramilitaries. A

prominent solicitor was tasked to look at the situation. Do you not

think they are recruiting? What proof has he got? He has spoken to

the leaders. The crime hasn't stopped. If they're still

recruiting, why are people conforming to it? Why don't they

rebel? They are terrified. It is not just a question for politicians and

police but for all of us. In 2016, we should maybe look at the blanket

ban on flying flags and painting curbs. I think it is worth putting

it into context because a lot of these working-class areas haven't

seen any benefits from the Good Friday Agreement. 50-50 recruitment

was abandoned years ago. A lot of people are going for an organisation

claiming legitimacy. Whenever the police, for and a half thousand stop

and searches in Ardoyne. It was supposed to be a fresh start. In

terms of the overview, poverty, suicide and hopelessness in these

areas, it has to be taken into consideration. We have to look at

hardline areas and work after them because they have the potential to

be the tale that wigs the dog. It is a very brave thing to do to

come into night and I am sure you are still grieving. I am sorry that

you ask your dad, your husband. Thank you for coming in tonight.

Next week Nolan Live is replaced by a special debate programme

The referendum is the big political issue everyone's talking about.

And decision day is just over a fortnight away.

We will probably vote to stay in because we work for a software

company and most of our colleagues are from the EU countries. Alt. --

out. Democracy in the EU is ridiculous. The should be changes.

Northern Ireland doesn't cope well with change and it might be better

to leave it how it is. I don't believe things will collapse. I'm

more inclined to go in. What we will you vote? I don't know yet. I think

there are pros and cons for both. I am voting to leave because I think

we will be better off. We are putting too much money into it so we

may as well get that back. I'm not sure yet. Is he not trying to sway

you? Yes, he is. It's not working. On the spot, I'd probably leave. Why

do you not know which way you are going to go? I haven't read the

supplement. The cameraman is getting a really bad shot of the back of

your head! Now, my next guests

are stars in one of my Basically, this is a game

where ordinary contestants are going up against the biggest

minds in the country Here he comes. It is the man

mountain of mathematics. It is the Beast himself. It is the Governor.

What is one quarter of a dozen. Three. Catch-22. Saint Peter.

Gemini. It Ain't Half Hot, Mum. Cocky, arrogant. Those are our good

points. You sound like they are bad points. I'm trying to work out if

this is what you are like in real life or are you two big softies?

He's really like that in real life. I can't argue. It's our job. Our job

is to win and deny people money and I can't help if I get satisfaction.

I absolutely love you sitting this close to me because for the first

time in my life... APPLAUSE

I can advise you to watch what you are eating and cut the calories,

kid! Listen, skinny. It's not my fault.

ITV have me on a minimum weight clause because they don't wink --

think I will be scary enough. For real? Yet. Every time they see me on

a diet they grab some pudding and put it on my plate. So it's in your

contract that you're not allowed to drop low 25 stones or what? Or they

will get upset. I do not have a clause in my contract, I'm just a

fat cow! I am like a big kid with this because I watch it a lot. It is

a class show. A brilliant show. Thank you. Are you one any type of

bonus scheme? I'm not telling you that extra marks come on excavation

mark a bonus scheme to beat the contestants? How happy do I look

when I win? Very happy. There you go. Answer, are you on a bonus? A

few years ago I was on a no-win, no fee basis. So you are not on a

bonus? No. I will admit it. We get the same money whether we win or

lose. We play for pride and have massive egos and do not want them

dented. But you are ruthless. Yes. If you're not on a bonus, why be so

ruthless? It is a matter of pride because I want to win. Any time I

take part in any quiz I want to win. Last night at was at the

presentation night of the Tame side quiz leading greater Manchester and

I wanted to get all the answers. There was nothing but one rather

plasticky cup which I didn't get to take home because the captain won

it. I want to win! You have to realise that and is the number two

Lady quiz player in the world. APPLAUSE

I believe she was six points behind the winner and right now she is

planning how to get seven points more next year.

Yes. I am always trying -- trying to beat the winner who is very nice. Do

you sit all day and all night just reading up on trivia? Wait you get

all that knowledge from? I am lucky. I just have a semi-eidetic memory. I

go around life learning things. If I go on the tube in London I clock on

the adverts were new pics -- books and films and it sticks. I got

married recently and all those hours hanging around the shops whilst my

beloved wife goes shopping, means I know an unholy out about ladies

fashion. Have you an earpiece on the show? Absolutely not. We're not

Pointless. Oh, sorry! Richard Osman has challenged me to it quiz and

said as long as we wear our same uniforms. He said, of course, that

means I'll have an earpiece. My point was if it is on the buzzer I'd

still whip him. Is it the most successful show on television? They

have a better PR department. I get a sense of how competitive you are. We

take it from our governor, Bradley Walsh. We have the best entertainer

in Britain right now. There are some hilarious moments in the show.

What 1993 film is concerned with activities around the following?

I thought I was quite intelligent. What is a Gobbler's Knob?

You Were There? Really! I would imagine it is some kind of

promontory, like a grassy knoll or that sort of thing. If I put some

questions to you about Northern Ireland, have you read anything up

before coming? No. Who is the manager of the Northern Ireland

football team? I'm trying to remember. I don't do sport. You

stupid woman! You stupid, stupid woman. How could you not know? I'm

not very good at sport, have you not noticed! Football is not my best

sport. After three, one, two, three. LAUGHTER here is one of my finest

moments on Chris show, not. -- quiz show.

Stephen, you will have 15 seconds to match the car to the country of

manufacture. It starts now. Sorry, your time is up. OK, what

have we got? We have got one right out of three.

Well done What happened to the slim athlete?

It's a real pleasure having you in Northern Ireland. You are fantastic

and the show is travelling the world, I right? Yes. There are

various non-English language shows in Germany, Russia, Croatia, Norway

and France is looking at it. Are you guys in some of the foreign

programmes? Mark is in the USA show and we are both on The Chase,

Australia. Fantastic excavation might give them

a round of applause. Fantastic! If you want to contact the radio

show during the day, here is that e-mail address:.

Clodagh Dunlop was left with locked-in syndrome after suffering

Little over a year ago, she was left unable to walk and talk,

and doctors told her family to fear the worst.

She is here tonight to share her story with her partner, Adrian.

Give them a round of applause, ladies and gentlemen.

My goodness! Hello. Hello, how are you? My eyes were fixed on that

photograph of you in the hospital bed. What happened and how did you

go from being a healthy police officer to locked in syndrome? On

Easter Monday the 6th of April 2015 I had a massive brain stem/ caused

by a weakness in an neck artery which caused the stroke. It resulted

in me lying in ICU for ten days and the subsequent journey that I have

been on. When did you first wake up? The first day I became conscious was

the Wednesday, two days later. I knew where I was at. I could realise

I was in ICU. It looks like a spaceship and I thought, Nish elite,

which has proved not to be too good, I thought, yes, I was right! So you

are conscious but you couldn't move. No. It must have been terrifying? I

have described it as one of the most terrifying experiences of my life.

At times, in hospital, I had really irrational fears. I worried that

because I was so honourable, I couldn't move or speak, that I would

be assaulted or the victim of rape, which is quite irrational but

because I couldn't speak or fend someone off it was terrifying. Tell

me of the sensation when something has happened to you and you are

disorientated and then you go to move, just a normal instinct of

moving a hand or head. And you couldn't. But this is you. Good

girl! You were just starting to move there. Give us a wave. Another wee

one. Was there a point where you thought, am I ever going to move

again? Know, bizarrely, on my very first day in ICU, Adrian said, are

you there? Blink once for yes and it was the first time in my life I had

to really concentrate and blink and I did a long, slow blink. He said,

you'll be OK. From that moment I always thought, right, I had to

fight this. I remember a notice saying I had locked in syndrome and

I remember reading really shocked and thinking and remembering Tony

Nicholson in England had locked in syndrome and heat campaigned for

assisted suicide. I thought, that couldn't be me. A general disbelief

and a want to break out of this body and get it moving again. And you

played your role of very much this journey of caring for the person you

love. It was a journey for you, too? Certainly. When you looked into her

eyes that very first day and the determination she had to blink once

and make sure that message was not confused, I really did know that she

would get out of this. It will take time, but the strength and

determination that we could see in her everyday would give her the

strength to carry on. At one stage you were told to say goodbye to her?

Yes, the prognosis was terrible, a brainstem stroke. Two areas of the

brain suffered from lack of blood flow and oxygen starvation and it

was undetermined as to what function she would have. When she came out

the next day, we really didn't know what to expect. What happened on

your birthday? I had one birthday in hospital six

weeks after my/ but my anniversary was this year and for that

anniversary of the stroke, Adrian and I went skydiving. Exactly. From

that lady that might have been trapped in her body all her life,

let's watch this. Let's look at this together.

You dreamt of skydiving when you were locked in, didn't you? I did,

every night. It was my escape from my daily reality of not being able

to breathe or move. I would dream about to skydiving, breathing in the

air, my limbs flapping. That day it was wonderful. I think that deserves

a round of applause. APPLAUSE

What does it do to you when you experience something like that in

life, as you look to the future? How does it change how you think about

life? It has changed me a lot. I don't like too much to the future.

And the immediate future I like to return -- I would like to return to

driving and work but in the long-term future I lived for each

day and I am quite aware that life can change in the blink of an eye so

I make sure I enjoy every day, every moment, everything life has to

offer. Do you think you'll ever go back into the police? Absolutely.

Absolutely. I realise that initially I can't return to a uniformed role,

I may have to resign myself to a desk job but I don't see a future

where I don't return to work and to policing. I absolutely love it. Have

you spoken to them about going back? I have been engaging with them over

the past year and I'm hoping that I can return at the end of September.

Not that far away. It is not. The only thing wrong with me as I have a

few mobility issues. Cognitively, I'm fine. I'm sure I can get a job

where I can still help people, it's what I always liked doing. Look at

that beautiful smile. It is a pleasure to have you both in the

studio, and what a journey from what might have been to you getting back

into that job in the police and serving the community and helping

all of us. Thank you so much for all that you do.

Now, how old is too old to be wearing skimpy swimwear?

Should it only be young things flashing the flesh on the beach

Angie Best is well known to you as George Best's ex,

She joins me now, as does etiquette expert William Hanson.

Hello. Hello, you gorgeous, svelte looking thing that you are. Last

time you were here, you gave me a hard time. When you get to your age,

do you not want to start covering it all up because things start to group

unless you have had work done? Well, you would know!

APPLAUSE What do you were on the beach? Well,

I go to California quite a lot and believe it or not I walk around with

my belly out, in my shorts. Why shouldn't girls? Because... All, be

quiet. Does there are not come a certain age where you stop? No?

There should be a certain age where you stop, to be fair. There should

be an age. I think we have to be a little bit... William is how a lot

of the BBC presenters used to speak! Welcome to the BBC! Let him speak.

You don't happen to work for the BBC senior management board? If I had my

way, BBC presenters would still speak like me. You are very svelte.

Thank you very much. Over the age of 50, even 45, ladies and gentlemen,

if they are wearing budgie smugglers, should stop. If I was in

charge, we would have a ban on bikinis. Why do ladies need to tan

that part of their body? We don't show it off at any other time than

on the beach. What is wrong with a swim suit? Peter Stringfellow. That

is horrific. Amazing what you see when you don't have your gun. As my

mother used to say. Do you wear that? No, I don't. I guess the

counterargument is who cares what age you are? Be proud of your body.

We all care, really. I've lost about three stone about a year ago. Up

until then I wasn't and I still do not, where a swim shorts. Magaluf,

out with the boys on holiday? A bit of disco dancing! I am going to the

TNT region in Italy. -- Chianti. You don't know where that is, do you? I

shall be wearing a tailored pair of decent length swimming shorts. You

say 45 is the rule. We have a surprise tonight for you, William.

We want your commentary on this. MUSIC: Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny

Bikini. This was not rehearsed. For a

dreadful moment, I thought that guy in the beard was David Ford. What's

wrong with these people? Don't let them come any closer. Would you like

to come down and sit on his knee? You are welcome to. Security! You

look amazing. What age are you? 59. Good to see you. This is fine

because it is covered. You are fine. You pass. What do we think? Now we

have seen these people on live television. Come on up here, David

Ford. Former Justice Minister! Would you go to the beach like that? Yes.

I am 70. You are 70. I guess this is what you're trying to say is a

statement, Angie, who cares what age you are, be proud of your body. Each

and every one of these look after themselves. They are in pretty good

shape. That is the key. Would you tell these people to cover up,

William? What is your name, Madame? Fiona. Fiona is lovely but I'm not

sure we need something so skimpy. I like to tan my skin. But when do you

sure that part of your body off? In the bedroom, darling. Well... Where

has then he disappeared to? The guy in the white shirt, what do you

think? If you've got it, sure it. -- flaunt it. In the front. Can I just

say that no matter whether you are big, small, whatever, like's too

short. If you want to wear a bikini, where it. We do see some people may

be my size and this is a different discussion, walking topless down

Royal Avenue, tops off. Is that, do we not care? Why not? That is a step

too far because that in a pair of shorts would be offensive. I think

that's rude. You go to the supermarket and you see men in the

hot weather discarding clothing left, right and centre. I don't want

body hair falling in the mangoes. Cover-up. Some people should be

shot. It's the wrong type of thing to say here. This is Northern

Ireland. The guys here, go ahead. Sorry, the lady here, I thought it

was the guy in front of you. It is unfair it is towards women because I

see a lot of older men in what I think is very skimpy swimwear and

I'm sure everybody does and Stephen if you wanted to go down to Helen 's

Bay tomorrow and get out your speedo, I would be telling you to

work it. Work what? Well, whatever you have, you work it, Stephen. It

is not fair that it is all towards women. If I looked like those women

I would be sitting here in a bikini right now. We will take some

comments but first some applause. I don't know why clothes should have

an age limit. I think it shows you still have a bit of youth and enjoy

what you do. I don't go on holiday to look at other people but to enjoy

myself. I don't know why it would bother others. You take pride in

your body and work hard. Would you judge people? I'm afraid I do. I

can't help it because when you work hard, at 603I have to, to keep in

shape, and when I see people who let themselves go... I may have let

myself go but you've got a face-lift, don't you? I know,

darling, I won't pick on you any more. God only gave you one body and

you have to respect it and look after it so it can do the best it

can for you. Give our guests a round of applause. Good craic.

Don't forget the big EU referendum debate next week.

Singing us out tonight is an Irish singer-songwriter who has had

over two million streams on Spotify and half a million

With his song Don't Go Alone, it's Bry!

# Same old laughter, nothing's changed.

CHEERING Thank you.