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Hello. This is Outside Source. David Cameron's big day has arrived, I EU

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summit has started where the British prime minister will try to persuade

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all 28 countries to back his reforms. It is a more important to

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get this right than do anything in a rush but with goodwill and hard work

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we can get a better deal for Britain. Pope Francis has questioned

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Donald Trump's Christian values, making comments to journalists as he

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left Mexico following his visit there. A blast in Turkey has killed

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six people a day after a bomb attack in Ankara. The Prime Minister has

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blamed Kurdish separate system. And the British snowboarder who survived

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and, avalanche. Plus we will hear from William Shatner who has written

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a new book with co-star Leonard de Mori. -- Leonard Nimoy.

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Welcome back to the programme. Let's get more on our top story, British

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Prime Minister David Cameron in Brussels trying to agree on a set of

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reforms he can demand as part of a renegotiation of Britain's EU

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membership. When and if he gets that agreement the UK will vote in a

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referendum over whether or not to leave the EU. Let's see one of the

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latest week coming in from our political editor. Downing Street

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sources talking of an impasse tonight, tomorrow's talks pushed

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back to 11am to allow time for individual talks. Let's get some

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more voices, correspondence across Europe have been looking at what is

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at stake in this Brussels summit. Here in Paris, the real concern

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isn't benefits for migrants but rather protecting the Euro. David

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Cameron wants safeguards to ensure the Eurozone countries cannot gang

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up on the UK, but the French President Francois Hollande is

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concerned this will mean giving the City of London and unfair advantage.

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France is still struggling with high unemployment and president land will

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seek re-election next year. He doesn't want to come home looking

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like a loser. He must be seen to be sticking up for French interests.

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Germany's position hasn't changed, it wants Britain and the EU and

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right now Angela Merkel is David Cameron's greatest ally, voicing

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support for some of his ideas, take benefits and welfare systems. She

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said before the summit that national parliaments not Brussels should be

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responsible for protecting those systems against abuses. She also

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spoke of ever closer union, saying whilst nothing should stand on its

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way, individual member states should not be obliged to follow that level

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of integration every step of the way.

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Here in Hungary, the other central European countries as well, the main

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concern is to make sure fellow citizens have equal rights in

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Britain and elsewhere in the union. What that seems to mean in practice

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is that they might be willing to accept curbs on benefits for

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Hungarians, polls, Czechs and Slovaks in Britain, provided these

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are only applied to new arrivals, not the hundreds of thousands

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already there. And that the curbs are phased out gradually. Central

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European leaders are enjoying their sudden importance in EU affairs. At

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last everyone have to take them seriously.

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Thanks to Nick, Jenny and Anna. Let's cross to Brussels and find out

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what has been happening since we spoke last, Alex is with us. I was

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reading tweets of an impasse. How would you describe the mood over the

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past few hours? The first working session has finished so we have had

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the first substantial discussion of the proposed reforms and the leaders

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that around the table and attempted to thrash out some detail. After

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that we were hearing briefings from people in the room, sources close to

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those who work, saying no real progress has been made, there are

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still five key areas with significant differences between the

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EU leaders, such as the proposed welfare changes for EU migrants in

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the UK, the rules governing the relationship between between those

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inside and outside the Eurozone, even the fundamental treaties of the

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European Union. So far we have been told caps on those have not

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narrowed. You would expect some element of this drama to be played

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out because everyone on the table wants to be seen to have fought hard

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to get the best deal for their own country. This is not unexpected but

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the sense we are getting now is that these discussions are far from

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conclusion. David Cameron will sit with the president of the European

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Council Donald task later tonight, when they will work out how to

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proceed. Talks will inevitably trickle until tomorrow morning and

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we don't know if there will be a deal. I know there are various

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points you mention, the four or five sticking points, do we even know, do

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they attacked them the same time go through them methodically, for

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example the first couple of hours we will talk about benefits in the EU?

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We are told David Cameron opened this first working session by

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setting out what was at stake for him, saying he had to get a

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creditable deal he could fell to the British public and this was the

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moment to settle the UK question on the EU. Then they started thrashing

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through the detail. We are told every one of the sticking points we

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have spoken about recently was raised by someone around that table.

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No surprises as to which countries waste points on which issues, for

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example Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia are concerned

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about the welfare payments to migrant workers, concerned there

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were changes to economic governance, and as expected, we think they are

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the issues those countries raised, but one EU source told us they were

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more critical than they were expected to be, so the mood is now

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that there is still much discussion before any deal is likely to be

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reached. Thank you very much, Alex, keeping across that story in

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Brussels. As she mentioned, it will go well into tomorrow, so stay with

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us for updates. Let's turn over to our sports news. Manchester United

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are playing Michelin in the Europa League and a few more games are on

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as well. Let's get the latest from the BBC Sport Centre and Catherine

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Downes, standing by. Give us an update on that match and what else

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is happening. For Man United fans I'm afraid the bad week continues,

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the beaten by Sunderland at the weekend. Tonight they have beaten by

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Michelin from Denmark -- Mitjylland from Denmark. David de Gea was

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injured in the warm up so big names missing, so United beaten by a team

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that have only existed for 17 years. For Louis Van Gaal, you sense a lot

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hinges on the second leg of this type, and the FA Cup tie against

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Shrewsbury town of League 2 in England. If that goes badly things

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might go badly for Louis Van Gaal. We were talking a lot about calls

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for Gary Neville to resign as Valencia manager after dismal league

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form but tonight it is different story, Valencia lead Rapid Vienna

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5-0. 15 minutes left so there could be good news there for Gary Neville.

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Holders Seville are on for a record-breaking third consecutive

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Europa League title. Fernando Llorente scored twice in the first

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half. Seville only in this competition because they finished

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third in their Champions League group, so they dropped down in the

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Europa League, but it could turn out well for them in terms of making

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history. Another former winner, Liverpool, currently finding German

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side at Augsburg tough to crack, goalless at the moment in Jurgen

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Klopp's first game in Germany since moving to Liverpool from Bruce eah

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Dortmund. Thank you for bringing us up-to-date. A couple more sports

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stories, away from football. This is a survival story, British

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snowboarder Sasha Hamm has been talking to the BBC about the moment

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he was caught in an avalanche, and he explains how he survived the

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experience. I hiked it with my friend, he got too tired, turned

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around, and stubborn Sasha decided to keep going.

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I ended up about five feet under the snow, and stuck in there, and I

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thought that was it. But luckily, I had a very big airport it on the

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right side of my body and my phone was literally in the right pocket --

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a very big air pocket. I called my friend and navigated him

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to where I was and said, if you can hear the chopper getting louder,

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talus, and that is how they ended up in pointing me. I have never heard

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of anybody surviving past an hour, let alone two hours. Usually you

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diversification, but I got really lucky, I learn my lesson, don't go

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riding on your own and the most important one is, don't go riding

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when you are very tired. Frightening but with a happy ending,

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we are glad to say. I now want to bring you to Formula 1, a Tweet,

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2016 F1 line-up is complete. The 23-year-old will become

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here is his manager. They chose him on merit, on the results of last

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year. They feel it is a good team-mate. Obviously it is sad for

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Will Stevens because he is out of Formula 1 now. That is sometimes the

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sad nature of the sport, only 22 drivers year able to compete.

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Stay with us on Outside Source, we will be live in Cuba talking about

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President Obama's announcement that he will visit the country next

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month. Rail passengers in the south-east of

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England remain the least satisfied in the country according to a report

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by the consumer group Which?. They had an overall satisfaction score of

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46%. The survey of nearly 7000 rail travellers across England and Wales

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shows many passengers have to cope with overcrowded trains and dirty

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conditions. Emma North reports. What is it like to travel on some of

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the worst trains in England? Myself and a few others were fined by

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ticket inspectors on our train. We ended up with two or three trains

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with the people on one train, so we were standing in first class, and we

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were fined for standing in the compartment. People don't like

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South-eastern Trains because they are unreliable. I could get in ten,

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20, 30 minutes late, which ruins my plans. Which? Asked 7000 companies

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to raise -- passengers to rate the worst companies. It is challenging

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for the operators but that cannot be tracked from the fact that people

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expect the basics, they expect clean trains, working toilets, all of

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these things should be achievable for operators in the 21st century.

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There is a lot they can do to make commutes more tolerable. The

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passenger numbers are up, but so are the profits. The parent company of

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South-eastern and Thames Link say they share customers frustrations,

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but they also said today they were pleased to report pre-tax profits up

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by 17%, up to ?52.1 million. The industry is working together to

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improve the experience of passengers. We are investing

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billions of pounds every year in new trains, better stations and more

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services. We know Winnie to do better, we are trying to improve, we

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know we need to run more trains more often on time. A separate survey by

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Transport cap more focused show people are generally happy but with

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a third reporting their last journey as delayed there is little comfort

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for those in the London Crush hour. This is Outside Source live from the

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BBC newsroom. Our lead story: The British Prime Minister David Cameron

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has swept that with hard work and goodwill he can achieve a deal at

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the European Union summit to try to stop his country leaving the

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European Union. What you see next depends on where you live in the

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world. If you are watching outside the UK you will see World News

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America with more in Venezuela on the increase in petrol prices. Here

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in the UK the News at ten has an interview with former England rugby

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star Matt Dawson, speaking out about his family's experience with

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meningitis, after another family whose two-year-old daughter died

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from the disease earlier this week started a petition to get more

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children vaccinated against it. Let's move on to Cuba, I want to

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show your teat, the president of the United States posted this not on

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ago, he says next month he will travel to Cuba to advance their

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progress and efforts to improve the lives of the Cuban people. That is

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US President Barack Obama tweeting. It is not far between the US and

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Cuba, in fact the two nearest points are about 170 kilometres, 100 miles

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apart, but despite it being nearby, it has been a very long

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time since things looked like this, 1928, and President Calvin Coolidge

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was president of the United States. Fidel Castro would have been about

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three years old at the time. Let's hear more about how it has been

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received. We can speak to will grant in Havana. We were reading it on

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Twitter, what has the reaction been in Cuba to this visit on March 21?

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By and large very positive, as you can imagine, Cubans have been

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waiting for this announcement pretty much since the fall was announced

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since Washington -- between Washington and Havana at the end of

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2014. People had been expecting it might happen but not wanting to

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imagine it would. There have been many false dawns between these two

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old enemies for so long. But it will happen, March 21, it has been

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announced both by the White House and President Obama on Twitter, and

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also now by the Cuban government informing its people on state

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television. The sense of excitement has already begun and the next few

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weeks will see a real build-up before he gets here. What are the

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Cuban people hoping to achieve with the visit of President Obama? One

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man I spoke to on the street around the BBC office here said to me that

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what he was most concerned with was that President Obama helps the Cuban

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people. I think what he meant was that this doesn't turn into an

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institutional visit, President speaks to president and those at the

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bottom of society are forgotten. The White House I think will be

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sensitive to that, there will be a lot of gladhanding and pressing the

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flesh in the streets, President Obama has that rock star status when

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he travels the world, and he may find it reaches new levels when he

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comes to Cuba. But I also think the White House will be careful to find

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-- make sure there are meetings between Obama and dissident groups

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to make sure the humans rights question has not been forgotten by

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Washington and is one of the areas Obama wants to speak to Castro

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about. Thank you very much, will grant from her van. The picture will

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be different from when Calvin Coolidge visited! More politics,

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this time in Uganda, people have been voting for the next president.

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The incumbent has been in power for 30 years but faces a challenge from

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seven other candidates. It hasn't all gone smoothly today, voting

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extended in some parts of the country after long delays. Two

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polling stations and the process abandoned after police clashed with

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voters angry about the weight. Let's hear more from Catherine.

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These men were furious. After waiting hours to vote at a polling

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station in Kampala, it never happened. The police then fired tear

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gas to contain the situation. This is one example of an area where the

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police about constant clashes with voters. It took seven hours for the

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polling materials to arrive. When they did they were incomplete so

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only parliamentary votes and not presidential ballots, so the people

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tore them up, through the papers on the fall, eventually the electoral

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commission officials add to rule out, so there will be no voting here

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today. TRANSLATION: We need change. Several hundred kilometres away, the

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main opposition candidate voted earlier in the day. He has

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maintained that the electoral process is not free and fair. The

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president and his wife rated as well, but it was not a long wait for

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them. He was adamant that earlier clashes in Kampala will not

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continue. In the baking hot sun, people queued up for hours to be

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able to cast their ballot. The electoral commission apologised and

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extended voting by three hours up till 7pm local time, but there is

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uncertainty as to whether this is enough to ensure everyone takes

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part. At this monitoring station calls have been coming in from

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across the country. Most people had issues because of delayed voting. It

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was a lifeline for many, especially with some social media sites being

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blocked by the authorities. Incidents like this dissuade you

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from participating in democratic processes, Pat Dileep mac --

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perpetrate apathy because people think, what is the point if it will

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take the whole day? Some vote counting is going ahead this

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evening. But the question is how the disruptions on polling day will

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affect the final result. In another update on that story, the

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President's main rival was briefly detained by police with a move

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condemned by the US State Department. It follows his elect

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allegations of vote rigging. The Ugandan authorities denied the

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allegation in a statement and added that he had assaulted a police

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officer. Now to some film stars, the Intel

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careers were linked for decades but for William Shatner and Leonard

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Outside Source it was only the beginning. They became lifelong

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friends even though there were bumps along the way. Mr Shatner now

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recounts the off-camera details of their relationship and the BBC went

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to meet him. In exploring this book, I learned

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more about Leonard, perhaps not more, but a great deal about

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Leonard, that I hadn't known before. His fast and historical interest in

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photography, the things he wrote, some of the movies he was in, the

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plays that he did, and the musicals he was in. A musical, I didn't know

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he was on that! I didn't know he sang!

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We both had gotten criticism, we were both made fun of in a way, by

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having our voices on some records of actors who thought they could sing.

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So we both laughed about that. But he was doing it professionally and

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doing it well, wow, I didn't know that! The rivalry, I guess, could be

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a term to use, it is dramatic, but it was the push and shove of actors

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finding their way in a new venture. Had we known each other earlier, I

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don't think that would have happened, but on that occasion, as a

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young actor, everybody hungry, there was just sling, but it wasn't any

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more than that. I would like all those fans to take away the

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knowledge of how wonderful I had with Leonard Nimoy and how dear he

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was to me. Friendship is very difficult to get, because what

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happens between actors on a movie or a television series or a play, the

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passions of the venture bond you. When the venture is over, you say

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goodbye. There are instances where you say, man, I'll call you

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tomorrow, we had lunch, and it never happens, and it is all gone. In the

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business we are in where you are roaming a lot, solid connections are

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difficult to make, and I cherish the one I had with Leonard.

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What a relationship, a long one. We will be back on Monday on Outside

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Source. From me and the team, goodbye, thanks for spending some of

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your day with us. You can find us on Twitter. The hashtag is #BBCOS.

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Thanks for tuning in. Time to look at the weather for the next few

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days, a lot of changeable weather, actually, as we

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