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Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

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Let's look through some of the main stories here in the BBC Newsroom:

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North Korea has told the BBC it's prepared to launch a nuclear strike

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if the United States decides to attack it.

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If the US is reckless enough to use military means, it would mean from

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that very day an all-out war. Our nuclear weapons protect us from that

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threat. President Erdogan has dismissed

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criticisms of Turkey's referendum We've been looking at the ambitions

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of the countries powerful President. In Georgia, a seat in Congress

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will be selected tomorrow, and President Trump is a key factor

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in how people are voting. This is a moment we need to stand up

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and make a statement about the kind of politics we want. This whole game

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has been changed across the country. I am backing a Republican candidate.

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For the very first time, I am voting Democrat.

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And in Outsode Source Sport, we're looking at Brighton Football Club's

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And the latest World Surf League event.

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Let's return to the referendum in Turkey.

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This result means President Erdogan could be in power until 2029.

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Earlier in his career, Mr Erdogan said, "Democracy is like a bus.

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When you come to your stop, you get off."

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Evidently, his stop is some way down the road.

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And even before this result, he was a giant of Turkish politics.

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In 2001, he founded the Justice and Development Party of the AKP,

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In 2001, he founded the Justice and Development Party, or the AKP,

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He became Prime Minister in 2003 and then President in 2014.

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That was a year after nationwide protests at the alleged

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authoritarianism of his style of government.

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There was international condemnation over the government's

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Then last July, there was the attempted coup, and a widespread

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While all of this has been playing out, Turkey has taken in hundreds

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It's also experienced an increase in terrorist activity, primarily

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conducted by the Islamic State group and Kurdish militants.

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Michael Daventry is the editor of a Turkish newspaper based in London.

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He talked us through his reaction to the vote.

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I certainly did not think he would lose Istanbul or Ankara in the

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results of the vote so from that point of view, it has been a very

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surprising night. Having this much power has been something he has been

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dreaming about for the last five, ten years, the style of presidential

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system is what he wanted and he has got it, at the expense of a very

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divided country. Lots of countries have presidential systems and do not

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get the kind of criticism heading in his direction, what is it about this

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type of presidential system concerning people? This is what the

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Government admits to be a Turkish style presidential system and I

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think the best way to translate that is to call it a system with fewer

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checks and balances. If Parliament today under the current system

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wanted to investigate a Minister or the Prime Minister for any kind of

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wrong doing, the investigation and the votes to topple him would take

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18 days maximum. Under the new system, it would take ten months. So

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a significantly longer period of time and it will take more MPs to

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support it. That is just one example, but the checks and balances

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have been drastically reduced in this new system. Listening to the

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critics of Recep Tayyip Erdogan, they call him authoritarian,

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anti-democratic and other things, is that reasonable when you look at his

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behaviour in office and as a politician in his career? I think it

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is very easy to dismiss Recep Tayyip Erdogan as an autocrat. He is a

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realist and has been throughout his career. If you look at what he did

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ten, 15 years ago, to put Turkey on that route towards the European

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Union, he was doing, putting forward policies that would genuinely make

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life better for Turkish people and their living standards went up. In

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recent times, especially because of domestic issues, that notorious

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fight with the Pennsylvania -based cleric, all those things have

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suddenly transformed this man into a man who is fighting for the time.

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And his interpretation of democracy has become 50% plus one and I will

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ignore the rest of the minority, however large. Donald Trump has

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found coming into Washington there are obstacles in terms of

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implementing the policies that he professed to want to do on the

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campaign trail, do you think those same or similar obstacles may be in

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the wake of President Erdogan and his ambitions in the coming months?

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The opposition will be very interesting to watch over the coming

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days and weeks. This afternoon's report was particularly interesting

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and it will be interesting to see whether Western countries will adopt

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the opposition's message. I have to say this is the West's moment and

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they have to decide what they want about Turkey. They have two roots,

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they can decide Turkey is a trading partner and a security partner and

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little else, or they can decide they want to back Turkish democracy and

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Turkish freedom and stand up for the values they came to stand up for, it

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has to go one way or the other now because this really is the moment

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for them. There is a lot of background information on Turkey's

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referendum on mine whenever you want a website -- access it.

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This is going to make a pretty nice view if you are watching Brighton.

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Right at the top. It's taken 34 years,

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but Brighton Football Club has been promoted from the Championship

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to the Premier League. The team beat Wigan

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2-1 earlier today. And a Huddersfield draw 1-1

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at Derby sealed the deal. Brighton player

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Tomer Hemed tweeted... One of the best

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feelings in the world! I was reading that. Are Brighton

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earlier and they have come back from the very depths. Disappointment at

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the end of last season, they drew with Middlesbrough on the last ever

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game of the season and they missed out on goal difference and finished

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third in such a strong position. If they win at Norwich on Friday, they

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win the championship title, the castle have only won two of their

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last eight. A roller-coaster ride for the fans and at one point in the

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1980s, they were at the stage of going out all the league football,

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so the fans are very happy after winning 28 of 43 matches this season

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and last year, heartbreak when they lost out of the play-offs to

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Sheffield Wednesday. This year, it will not be happening. But something

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interesting from 1983, if you like your music history, new order and

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blue Monday was out. I guess that is why they call it the blues and Elton

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John and the Eurythmics, Sweet Dreams. There you go, thank you for

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that! Don't go anywhere, I want to talk to about the snooker.

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The Snooker World Championships are underway here in the UK.

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Ronnie O'Sullivan is the biggest name in the sport,

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and at the end of play yesterday, he accused authorities

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This is the latest in an ongoing disagreement.

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In January, he was sent a letter from the governing body,

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He'd publicly criticised a referee, for instance.

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Since that letter, there have been a number of bizarre media

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So how would you reflect on the match as a whole? Don't know,

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really. You seem to take a while to get going. Maybe.

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# May be your guide be the one that saves me.

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# And after all, you're my Wonderwall. What you think of my

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lyrics, do you think they are good? Yesterday, he gave

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an emotional press conference. I phoned barrier four weeks ago and

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said, I am done with you and your board of people. I have a good

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friend who said, just like my lawyers deal with it and I would get

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involved no more because I'm not being bullied and people doing that

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to me ever again. I am not and I am fortunate I have a very good friend

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who has a very good lawyer and they have got my back. I just want to

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play, I just want to have fun. I like Barry, but I am not being, I am

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not being intimidated or bullied any more.

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Chairman of World Snooker, Barry Hearn, released

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a statement saying he takes the matter seriously.

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And that the accusations are "unfounded".

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Back to you, this is really the last thing the sport once in the middle

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of its showpiece. It is, and Ronnie O'Sullivan is the biggest attraction

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on the snooker circuit. This goes back to the Masters tournament which

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O'Sullivan won in January and was sent a disciplinary letter

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afterwards. Wearing at a photographer and abusing a match

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referee. And Barry Hearn was quoted, but Jason Ferguson, the chairman of

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the world billiards, pool and snooker Association, said in terms

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of bullying it and intimidation, we do not accept that, and he is more

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than willing to sit down with Ronnie O'Sullivan and chat about that.

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Ronnie O'Sullivan plays Shaun Murphy on Sunday at Shaun Murphy defeated

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17-year-old qualifier by 10-8. I can take you to the Crucible

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Theatre now. Marco Fu has fought back from 7-1 down against the

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Belgian 22-year-old superstar and back into it. And this is the rest

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of the action from Monday. There has been some results. John Higgins 7-2,

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that moves back to the tables tomorrow. Jim Mallinder one week was

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the beaten finalist against world War I Mark Selby last year and is

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7-2 against his Chinese opponent. And Mark Allen from Northern Ireland

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8-7 up against Jimmy Robinson. All to play for but the Ronnie

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O'Sullivan story, I have no doubt that will roll album throughout this

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tournament. And he very much, very interesting tournament and we will

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have the full coverage throughout the BBC sport website.

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And as often happens, thousands took part, twe Kenyans won.

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Edna Kiplagat, too, the women's race.

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Great stuff in the wheelchair race too.

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Manuela Schar and Marcel Hug both set new world-best times.

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The reason it's not a world record is that the course is not

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It's too downhill and with the possibility

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Arguably, the story of the day came from 70-year-old Kathrine Switzer.

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In 1967, she became the first woman to formally compete.

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In this photo, from the Boston Herald, you can see an official

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And as such, she completely changed the face of marathon running.

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Let's show you some of the action from the latest

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Courtney Conlogue, from the United States,

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After winning, she said she's very honoured and 'super-stoked'.

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Let's just update you and talk about a couple of stories in a minute.

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An election in the state of Georgia is getting international attention.

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That's because President Trump has become a major factor

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He has been tweeting about it. The Democrats are getting a huge amount

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of funding into Georgia and we can hear about this battle for one seat

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in Congress is becoming about a far greater national political issue. In

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the meantime, the latest in the tensions between North Korea and the

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US. Mike Pence has been in South Korea and we have heard from the

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North Koreans who have been speaking to John Sutton with in Pyongyang and

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saying, if you attackers, we will consider using our weapons and we

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will begin using nuclear weapons if need be. A couple of you asking

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questions. Saying, what can the UN do to do with the situation between

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North Korea and the US? The UN has already given support to sanctions

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and that has had limited effects. Beyond that, it is not clear what

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the UN can do and Donald Trump has already made it clear he will go it

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alone if need be. This question, how does the South Korean leadership

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feel about the tensions between North Korea and the US? The

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Americans and the South Koreans have been conducting military exercises

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in the last week, so very much on the same page. And the Americans and

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the South Koreans are bringing in a new system which can take out

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missiles that have been fired, so the two very much working

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hand-in-hand. If you have more questions, keep them coming. You

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will see our e-mail on the screen throughout.

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This summer, some GCSE grades in England are changing,

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with A*-G being replaced by grades 9-1 - a move that's creating huge

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uncertainty, according to the teachers' union the NASUWT.

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The Government says standards will go up because the content

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is more rigorous, and that bright pupils will have a better

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Our education editor, Branwen Jeffreys, reports.

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The new system has more grades and replaces letters

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with the numbers 9 to 1 - with 9 being the highest grade.

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It's all change for GCSE Maths and English this year.

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Numbers, not letters, for grades and new, tougher

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So Umi is getting extra help from her tutor, something many

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Even so, she's anxious about the exams.

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It's quite daunting, because lots of my teachers don't...

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They've never taught it before, so they're not

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used to the new syllabus that's coming in.

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Her mum, Kelly, is trying to get her head round it all.

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A grade 4 will be the same as a C or above.

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A top grade of 9 will be higher than an A*.

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She doesn't mind the exams' content being made harder.

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But to bring in a new grading system and make the whole exam structure

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tougher as well means that there's a lot that people have to deal

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Teachers have been debating the changes today.

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Their union, Nasuwt, says ministers are moving the goalposts.

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Headteachers move goalposts for yourself individually.

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But I think the Government have just taken them away.

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And we might actually be playing snooker.

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Generally, we are just very, very confused about what these

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grades actually mean and, actually, were they even

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In a system where everyone understands A* to G,

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It's only England that's making these changes, starting with Maths

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Wales and Northern Ireland are sticking with letters.

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GCSEs are an important milestone in students' lives...

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Ministers say that's why high standards matter.

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They insist the new system will be fair, a grade 4,

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This is Outside Source, live from the BBC Newsroom.

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North Korea's Deputy Foreign Minister has told the BBC that

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Pyongyang will continue to test missiles, despite international

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condemnation, and that an "all-out war" would result if the US

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There's a lot of attention on an election in Georgia on Tuesday.

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That's because Tom Price is now Donald Trump's Health Secretary.

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Now, this district has been in Republican hands since 1979,

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This is a poll of polls in the Huffington Post.

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The Democratic candidate is polling well - there are 11 Republicans

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competing against him and each other.

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He says the Democrats in the Georgia race tomorrow wants to protect

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criminals, allow legal immigration and raise taxes, which the Democrats

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do not agree with. Rajini Vaidyanathan's in Georgia,

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and this the report she's made. We need more Democrats in Washington

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- Trump is a disaster. Who do you think

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should win this seat? For the very first time,

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I'm voting Democrat. The sixth Congressional

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district in Georgia has been But Democrats think this

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man can win it back. Jon Ossoff is a political

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adviser turned documentary maker, who's raised more than $8

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million in a race which has been dubbed the "Make Trump

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Furious" campaign. More than anything, I think it

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would be a win for the thousands of grassroots volunteers

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who are getting involved many of whom have never been

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involved in politics before - who see this as a moment

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when we need to stand up and make a statement

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about the kind of politics we want. There is no limit to

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the number of candidates standing for a party, and so there

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are a whopping 18 contenders - 11 are Republicans,

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which could split that Unlike on the Democrats'

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side, where there is a coronation, Republicans

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believe in competition. That competition has seen a number

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of anti-establishment candidates enter the fray,

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including businessman Bruce Lavelle, This whole game has

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been changed, across In the next two years,

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you are going to see that in mayoral races, City Council

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races, Statehouse races, congressional races - because

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people are tired. Republicans and Democrats have done

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a horrible job at getting involved with special interests

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and lobbyists and pay to play. This crowded field of

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candidates includes local politicians, business people

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who have never held office, In many ways, this race reflects

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politics across America. And that's why it's

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being watched so closely. In November, Donald Trump

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won this district by a tiny margin, after many Republican

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voters deserted the party. The result here could hinge on how

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they vote this time. I have traditionally

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been voting Republican. I have not really been

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happy with the Trump administration, and I want this

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as a message against the I think more Democrats

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are excited than the Republicans this time around,

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because of what we saw in this I'm backing a Republican candidate

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that I think will do a good job. I don't really care

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for Republicans these days. I'm definitely not a fan

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of Donald Trump's. And I'm probably going

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to vote for the Democrat. Whatever happens here will send

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a message across America. Could it be the start

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of the Democratic comeback, or will it cement the Republican

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Party onto President Trump? Patricia Murphy is covering this

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story and she is live from Georgia. Thank you for your time. Do you

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think this is part of a broader pattern of the nationalisation of

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local politics? We will find out tomorrow if the pattern is starting.

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I cannot tell you this race is highly nationalised. Every voter I

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have spoken with the Democratic side at least has said this about Donald

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Trump. They know Jon Ossoff and they like him a lot, but the only reason

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they know anything about him is because of President Trump, people

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have got more involved in politics than they were before. Paying more

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attention. And for votes I have spoken with who plan on voting for

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Jon Ossoff, they are sending a message to President Trump, which is

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a very unusual thing to hear in a special election in Georgia at this

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time of year. Is this particular system not magnifying the success of

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the Democrats because the Republicans do not have one

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candidate, they have over ten? Well, in a way, Republicans are victim of

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their own success and in Georgia they have 11 candidates. Probably

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half a dozen very strong candidates in a regular year, any number of

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those Republicans could get elected easily in a field of two or three.

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Jon Ossoff was the only significant Democrats step forward and even be

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willing to run for the seat. Typically, Democrats in this

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district to not even bother making a run for it because they think they

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will lose. Jon Ossoff was one of the few to stand up and say he would run

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for the seat and try for it. Republicans have too many

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candidates, what is different this year is that there is no leadership

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infrastructure to tell some of these Republicans to sit the race out and

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focus behind two or three Republicans. Jon Ossoff has almost

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all Democratic voters on his side, but these 11 Republicans are

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splitting the vote, the money and the enthusiasm among themselves and

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creating a big opportunity for Tom Price. Interesting to hear about the

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conversations you are having with people who voted for Donald Trump

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and how they feel about his performance. I would say that voted

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for Donald Trump, until the last week, had been largely satisfied

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with Donald Trump. He was going through the list of promises that he

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made on the campaign trail and delivering on them, whether it comes

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to abortion restrictions, loosening environmental restrictions, the

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people who voted for him knew what they were voting for. In the last

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week or so, it has been a little different in terms of his role in

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foreign policy and on the international stage. Conservative

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Trump voters were expecting a more America first posture and have not

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been getting lately. I don't know that will affect this race, but the

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energy in this race is not among people who voted for Trump, but

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among those who did not vote for Trump. In any election, you just

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want to be where the energy is and that is where the Democrats are

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feeling much better than usual in a race like this. It is good of you to

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make time for us, Patricia, thank you and please come back again,

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Patricia Murphy. One other detail about Georgia, if any of the

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candidates win 50% or more, they will be going to Congress. However,

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if not of them get 50%, they will be going to a run-off which could see

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one Democratic candidate against one Republican candidate, which would

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make it far harder for the Democrats to do well. We shall see how that

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unfolds and we will have details tomorrow and on Wednesday. That is

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it for today, thank you very much, I will see you next week.

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