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Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

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We start with the UK election today...

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Voters traditionally back the Labour Party -

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but the Prime Minister is urging them to turn to the Conservatives.

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A vote for any other party would be a vote for a week and failing Jeremy

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Corbyn, propped up by a coalition of chaos which would risk our national

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future. We talk to our correspondence in Westminster about

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the political situation in Wales and the Labour Party, giving more on the

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plans for Brexit. The tension around the Korean

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peninsula continues to ratchet up. A US submarine has arrived

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in South Korean waters. And North Korea is carrying out

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a large military drill. Yemen's situation

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is worsening still. The UN's says it's

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on the brink of famine. We are witnessing the starving

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and the crippling of And I'll be asking Rory Cellan-Jones

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about a new app that promises to use artificial intelligence

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to offer health care. Jimmy Wales, the founder of

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Wikipedia, has been answering questions you sent me about his new

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project to take on fake news. You can see his answers and

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questions on other stories. You know how to get into

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June 8th is election day here in the UK.

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The Prime Minister Theresa May has been in South Wales.

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We want to get votes and support here in Wales. Because, that will

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strengthen my hand in the Brexit negotiations. CLAPPING

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The opposition Labour Party has been offering more detail on how it

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We do not accept that there has to be a reckless Tory Brexit. A

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fundamental issue in this election. It is a fundamental issue for

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everybody who will be voting. We do not believe that if you are a

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citizen of the world, you are a citizen of nowhere. Of course we

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recognise and accept that immigration rules are going to have

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to change when we leave the EU. Let me say that again. We accept

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immigration rules are going to have to change when we leave the EU. But

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we don't accept that immigration should be the only overarching

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priority, the only red line. The part of that speech that got the

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most attention today was that Labour would guarantee the status of EU

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citizens in the UK before Brexit negotiations, not waiting for the

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negotiations to continue, as the Labour Party try to make a point of

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difference from the government position on that issue. I spoke to

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Eleanor Garnier about this. Labour trying to provide clarity on the

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issue of Brexit for months. It has been criticised for not having a

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clear message, seeming to say one thing one month and another thing

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another month. Today we had the shadow Brexit secretary trying to

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put parity and yes, as you say, distinguishing Labour from the

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Conservatives. Saying Labour would guarantee the rights of EU citizens

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here in the UK on day one of the Labour government getting into

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power. We know the Conservatives have that as a priority. But they

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will not guarantee that unilaterally. We know Labour would

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give the UK parliament here a veto over any Brexit deal negotiated.

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That is not something the Conservatives and Theresa May are

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offering. Labour want to retain benefits of the single market

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prioritising the economy. Theresa May has made clear the UK will be

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leaving the single market and be leaving the customs union. What it

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does show is that the issue of Brexit is an absolutely huge issue

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in the general election. Theresa May once the general election to be all

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about Brexit but Labour are trained to draw a line under the confusion

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on where it stands on Brexit and other issues as well. The NHS and

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social care, the fact that Labour says it is an anti-austerity party

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and until Labour draw a line under the Brexit issue, those are the

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different issues that it wants to talk about may not get much

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traction... Let's talk about Wales, it was intriguing to see the Prime

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Minister there, and polling and the Conservatives seem to be doing

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better than they have done in previous election campaigns in

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Wales. What is going on there? With that poll, it is a single one and we

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must take it with a huge pinch of salt. What was significant today was

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that Theresa May went to Wales so early in this general election

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campaign. She clearly thinks that there are vulnerable seats there.

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That were previously seen as Labour safe. Thank you. Let's go over to

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the Korean peninsular... A US submarine has arrived

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in South Korean waters. The Americans insist

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the deployment is routine - but it s not seen that way by North

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Korea. It's also carrying out a large

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scale military drill. TRANSLATION: Now that the US has

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pulled out a sword to kill us, we will pull out a grand sword of

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justice and fight until the end. We will kill the US imperialists with

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our strong and revolutionary power. Our nuclear forces are at the core.

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The BBC World twitter feed tells us this...

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Let's turn to our North America correspondent

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An unusual movement, is it done for practical or symbolic reasons? It

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isn't done for practical reasons, it was easy for the administration to

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send additional is, the secretary of defence and chiefs, other senior

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level military officials to Congress, where they could have

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briefed all of the senators in the Senate as they have there. This is

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to show the seriousness of what the Trump administration is taking on.

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This idea of bringing all 100 senators to the White House tomorrow

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at 3pm local time was Donald Trump's own idea. A departure from

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tradition, but as far as Donald Trump goes, I think the venue was

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important to him. He wanted the senators on his turf to show that he

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is in charge and will put on a show there with all of the senators

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getting into their cars and being driven to the White House. It is a

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symbolic gesture more than any kind of practical reason. As we often

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discuss at this time of day, plans by Donald Trump are divisive in

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Washington but interesting, regarding that position, is most of

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Washington behind how the Trump administration approach is this? I

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think you are hearing general support, there is an understanding

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the USA needs to take their nuclear programme seriously, they are

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developing missiles that could eventually reach US territory, you

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need to take that seriously. We hear from people like John McCain, saying

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that Donald Trump is doing the right moves here, ramping up the pressure

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on North Korea, including possible UN sanctions, moving an aircraft

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carrier and the submarine you mentioned, near the North Korean

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peninsular. All of those moves are necessary to address the situation.

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And you are hearing a change of rhetoric from the White House.

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Donald Trump himself saying that he did not think Kim Jong-un was all

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that strong. That kind of sabre rattling was different to what we

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heard during the Obama administration. Some critics said

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outside of politicians but it was counter-productive and could provoke

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a response from the North Koreans that was unwanted. Am sure that we

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will talk tomorrow, thank you. The situation in Yemen

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is increasingly desperate. Just as in Syria, its civil war now

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features other countries. And just as in Syria,

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civilians are paying a heavy price. There are 25.6 million

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people in Yemen. It gives you an idea of the extent

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of the conflict. Almost 19 million are in urgent

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need of assistance. Two million of them are children

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who are acutely malnourished. On average, a child under the age

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of five dies of preventable causes And this means 50 children in Yemen

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will die during today's conference, and all those deaths

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could have been prevented. Many of the children

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who survive will be affected by stunting and poor health

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for their entire lives. We are witnessing the starving

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and the crippling of That's Antonio Guterres speaking

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at a donor conference The problem here is not

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just about funding - it's about the war making it hard

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to get aid to people. These are the two factions

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fighting for control the internationally-recognised

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government of President Abdrabbuh Mansour Hadi and those allied

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to the Houthi rebel movement.- and pockets of Al Qaada presence -

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and this shows the number of displaced people -

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the darker the colour the more there are -

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many pushed from the urban areas because of the violence

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and Saudi-led coalition bombing. Those in the West are more heavily

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affected than anywhere else. Whenever we talk about the Yemen

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conflict, we turn to my colleague... Mai Noman is from Yemen

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and of our journalists - she explained how she sees

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the situation in her home country. I have recently come back from

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spending one month in Yemen, where basically the situation is at a

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standstill. That is the political situation. On the other side, the

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humanitarian situation is rapidly deteriorating. Last time I was in

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Yemen was two years ago when who the rebels stormed the capital and took

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over. To see the difference in the country after only two years, and

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how tragic the situation has become, it is shocking. And what are the

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factors making that humanitarian situation so much worse? As you

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know, today we heard the donors have pledged over 1 billion dollars to

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Yemen. That is only half the amount the UN has stated that Yemen needs

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for the humanitarian crisis. The issue isn't just that there isn't

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enough money but there is the issue of access. Most of these workers,

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these aid workers, working on the ground cannot reach those people

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most in need because of continued fighting. We know the most intense

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front line in Yemen is a port where most of the imports and aid is

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delivered. If fighting continues in areas like that, it will only make

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delivering aid a lot more harder. There needs to be

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a political and military situation to provide access you are

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describing. Is it you when taking the lead in trying to drive that? --

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is it the UN? The root of the problem is the political situation.

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And the war going on. You have the Saudi led coalition on one side, and

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the Yemeni government battling with the rebels. Where people at home

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frustrated with how the world is responding? Do they feel we are

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paying enough attention? No. They feel completely despondent, that it

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has become so bad and yet they get very little attention. More

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background information on the conflict in Yemen on the BBC news

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website. Stay with us - in a few minutes...

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Complications with two executions last night in Arkansas -

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we'll bring you the latest. Our correspondence has spoken to

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some of the men on death row and relatives of victims. We will hear

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more in a few minutes. The parents of Madeleine McCann say

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they will never give up searching for their missing child and

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described the tenth anniversary of her disappearance which is next week

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as a horrible marker. She vanished while on holiday in Portugal with

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her parents. Mark Rowley has revealed that reddish detectives are

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still working on the case. After this time, even after ten years,

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there are lines of enquiry that are worth pursuing and that means it is

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possible they will find an answer, it is possible they won't but as

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long as we have the resources to do it, and as long as these are

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sensible lines of enquiry we will keep going down those lines. If we

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provide an answer to a family in such an awful situation, that is

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what we must do. This is Outside Source live

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from the BBC newsroom. Our lead story is? UK

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Prime Minister Theresa May has taken her general election campaign

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to Wales, stressing the importance of a United Kingdom

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in Brexit negotiations. The main stories from BBC World

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Service... A Thai man has filmed

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himself killing his baby daughter on Facebook Live -

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before taking his own life. Relatives of the man

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saw what was happening and alerted the police -

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but the authorities Francois Hollande has called

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for unity in France. He made the remarks during a tribute

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to a policeman who was shot Both candidates to succeed

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the president have paid tribute to officer who died -

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but neither are showing any signs of agreeing with each other

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on security matters. And this is in the most watched

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video on the BBC News app. It's the Kitty Hawk -

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it's a flying car, backed It's a prototype but we're told

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there are plan to deliver what's being called a "personal flying

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machine" later this year. Over the last few weeks

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on Outside Source we've reported on Arkansas' plans to carry out

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eight executions before On Monday night two more men died -

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Jack Jones and Marcel Williams. The reason for the rush to execute

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is that the drug used by Arkansas in lethal injections expires in late

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April. Jeff Rosenzweig was

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Jack Jones' lawyer - here he is talking to the BBC

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about the drugs used. The problem specifically with that

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drug is that that it is not often effective to in

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juice the kind of unconsciousness that is necessary to avoid pain and

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suffering and torture with the second and third drugs. We do not

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know if, in fact, it worked that way or not. In the case of Mr Jones. Our

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correspondence has followed this story closely and spoken to some of

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the men on death row, and relatives of their victims. I have been

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speaking to him about some of the conversations that he has had. With

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that man we were talking about, Jack Jones was executed last night and we

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spoke to family members of the woman who died, the woman who was raped

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and strangled to death by Jack Jones, and you were hearing from

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that lawyer, saying that this drug causes suffering and it appears,

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according to lawyers, that actually Jack Jones went through something of

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an ordeal last night during the execution. The family of victim said

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that they do not mind if he suffered a bit because our relative, my wife,

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suffered when he was assaulting her. Of course it is the responsibility

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of the state, if they are to put people to death, to do so humanely.

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There are so many people now saying lethal injection is not a humane way

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to do this. Last night, lawyers said that it took 41 minutes at least,

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maybe more, to try and put an intravenous line into Jack Jones 's

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neck and it was unsuccessful and that is why when the next execution

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was due to happen, it was stayed at the very last minute. The next

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person to be executed, Marcel Williams, was on the bed ready to be

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executed when he was told there was a stay of execution, but one hour

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later he was brought back and they carried on with that execution. Is

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the intention for five more men to die before the end of the month?

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Because of all of these legal battles, partly as you heard from

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the lawyer about the fact that suffering was caused but in

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individual cases. We've got to the stage where out of the eight people

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due to be executed in ten days, there are just four in the end he

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can be executed. Three of them have already been executed. One more is

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to come on Thursday. Others have all had stays of

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execution but what happens to then is then uncertain. The drug runs out

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at the end of the month and no other drug companies want to sell the

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state of Arkansas or any state these drugs any more because they know

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what they are used for. For a drug to be -- for a drug company to be

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associated with the death penalty is something that they do not want to

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do. The states have big problems now when it comes to putting people to

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death. Donald Trump has imposed

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tariffs on some imports. For instance, timber

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from Canada will be subject This is all in line

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with the President's And because this is Canada,

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we need to see it in the context of Mr Trump's desire to ditch

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the North America That's between the US,

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Canada and Mexico. Well Mexico's economy secretary has

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spoken to the BBC about the prospect If you think for instance they will

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impose a specific tariff on imports, at the end of the day, these are US

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consumers who will pay for it. Any other idea that comes to mind, you

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need to review precisely, at the end of the day, who will be carrying the

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burden of that decision. That you are clear and on record as saying

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that if tariffs were imposed there would be repercussions? Obviously.

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It is obvious that it would basically be aggravated, you need to

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analyse and respond to the consequence. We do not have to

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anticipate. We are at a point where we would like to look at this

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constructively. Understanding that there are deep differences in terms

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of how to view these key issues. We believe that there are ways to work

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constructively and think about the Nafta which will benefit the

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countries. It was not just timber that Mr Trump followed up on...

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Mr Trump followed up on the Canadian border tariff announcement with this

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tweet @realDonaldTrump "Canada has made business for our dairy farmers

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in Wisconsin and other border states very difficult.

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Meanwhile, the US Treasury Secretary said "It has been a bad week

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These two states at odds, are they suggesting that these new tariffs

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are unhelpful? I think that we need to look at what is being said,

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within the larger context of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

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As we have spoken about many times, it is clear that President Trump

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wants to start the process of re-negotiating the decade-old

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agreement. This is the kind of rhetoric you here before we begin to

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embark on those kinds of grievances. Softwood lumber has been a

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long-standing grievance between Canada and the US. With regards to

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dairy, there is a feeling within the US that Canadian farmers are getting

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an unfair subsidy. Canadian dairy farmers feel similarly when it comes

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to American dairy farmers. Looking at all of this within the wider

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context of re-negotiating Nafta, these are people drawing lines in

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the sand about what they want, to put on the table, when discussions

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finally begin. What is the timetable on Nafta either being ditched or at

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least renegotiated? A very good question! Many people expect that it

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will not be until at least August before they renegotiate again.

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Yesterday, the US Chamber of Commerce is rather optimistic and

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believes a reformulated plan could be in place by about 2018. Similar,

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thank A British firm has announced plans

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to build the world's most advanced artificial intelligence

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health care platform. This is a company called Babylon

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based in London and they have announced today got million dollars

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to build a doctor in your pocket, -- $60 million.

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They will be giving advice to patients via a smartphone camera.

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They take that data and data from an advice line they have got for

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British patients. They feed it into a computer, through a process called

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machine learning, and eventually they will have a programme which is

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as good at dealing with a patient and giving a diagnosis as any

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general doctor. In fact, in the long run, it is better than any doctor.

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They have all of that data and more data than any single doctor could

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possibly absorbed in their lifetime. So a user would say, I have a rash

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on my forearm, what is this, what do I do with my phone? How would I get

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advice? You could talk to your phone and initiate a conversation.

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Describe the symptoms and the smartphone has sensors built into

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it. You would have a relationship with it and it would know your

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health history and feed you a series of questions which you would answer,

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taking into account everything it knows about you. Your fitness

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tracker might be linked to it, and it could give you a diagnosis to

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tell you what is wrong. It sounds like a bit of a nightmare for

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doctors... For professional doctors. But the company is working with

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doctors and is keen to stress no, this will be a supplement, not a

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replacement? You second-guess the next question I was going to ask! In

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the past we know doctors have been frustrated coming into the surgery

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saying they'd look things up on the Internet and they think it is

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this... This is being aimed not only at patients in Britain, but places

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in the developing world where maybe it is difficult to get access to a

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doctor. The idea and the claim is, these are

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big claims, a lot of people are working in this field and it will

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extend health care to those who do not have it. Not replacing it but

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there are a lot of places where there are huge shortages of doctors

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and this will fill in the gap. In a few minutes we will hear from

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Jimmy Wales, the co-founder of Wikipedia, taking your questions on

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his plan to take on fake news...

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