25/04/2017 Outside Source

Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

These are the main stories in the BBC Newsroom right now.

UK Prime Minister, Theresa May, has taken her general

election campaign to Wales, with six weeks to go

Voters traditionally back the Labour Party there

but she urged them to turn to the Conservatives.

A vote for any other party would be a vote for a weak and failing Jeremy

Corbyn, propped up by a coalition of chaos, which would risk our

The Labour Party has been detailing how that would oversee Brexit

negotiations. The tension around the Korean

peninsula continues to ratchet up. A US submarine has arrived

in South Korean waters. North Korea is carrying out a large

military drill and there are fears it could be planning another missile

or nuclear test. Ivanka Trump has been talking about

her father. He's been a tremendous champion

of supporting families, Let's hear from the founder of

Wikipedia, he has a brand-new project which has the purpose of

taking on fake news. Here is Jimmy Wales talking to me earlier about

the initiative before we get into some questions. Everybody has been

talking about the problem of fake news, also we see low quality clip

bait site which are polluting the Internet so that's a fairly clear

problem and I think part of the solution is to really look at the

business model of journalism and the production model so what I want to

do is bring together good serious thoughtful community members like

the Wikipedia community, with professional journalists who work

side-by-side to create something new, something different, in terms

of quality journalism that has a community focus. I mentioned on

Twitter I would be talking to you and they have questions. How do you

ensure the editors themselves will not be biased and not inject their

own agenda? Every news organisation has to deal with that and if you

have an objective to be neutral you have got to keep challenging

yourself, but in this case we also have an open community, much like at

Wikipedia where, if you see something that is biased, you can

challenge it and discuss it with people. Having that open system

where everything is open to dialogue is helpful in terms of striving to

become more neutral. Here is one from you -- from a journalist in New

Delhi. Yes, we will be hiring journalists, doing traditional

things. Full-time journalists, with freelancers to fill in around the

edges, but also community members who are well positioned to do an

interview who may get paid, may not, depending on the context. This is

Simone, a journalist in Frankfurt, who says what about information

obtained by sources that either have to be or wish to be anonymous? The

point here is to say you are absolutely right, not everything can

be... You cannot show your work in all cases. When you cannot, that

requires an additional level of thought and scrutiny from your

editor, but in many cases traditionally newspapers didn't show

all their work or provide all their sources because there wasn't space

in the newspaper. Now we are online, still a lot don't provide their

sources. They could post a full transcript of their interview. Not

so much the people will read every transcript, but it means that

outside people can do the matching up and give it more of a level of

credibility, to say all right, if the transcript is wildly different

from the quote, somebody can raise that objection and say hey, hold on,

that is not fair representation. One more for you from Kieron.

For sure. One of the things we want from good quality journalists is to

be that fact check on, for example, politicians. Lots of news

organisations do that, we want to do it as well, but these days we are

also witnessing something which is relatively new, which is well

funded, either possibly state funded or funded by scammers, basically a

problem with scam, genuinely fake news. Fake headlines being spread on

social media. That is something we all need to get serious about, let's

object to that and say hey, that's not right. Thanks to Jimmy Wales for

coming on and answering your questions. It is called WikiTribune.

On to sport, this is the Premier League table. Mark Edwards is in the

BBC sports Centre. Last time I checked it was going to plan for

Chelsea. Absolutely, it has just finished and Chelsea have regained

their 7-point lead at the top of the English Premier League after beating

Southampton 4-2. A perfect four days for the Londoners after knocking out

Tottenham Hotspur in the FA Cup semifinal. They have seen off Saints

at Stamford Bridge and it's a good turn in form for Chelsea, they have

lost two games in their last four league matches, but now they have

seen their lead cut from ten to four, now back to seven, and Eden

Hazard scored after just five minutes directly from material from

Diego Costa. Southampton back into it through Romeu, 20 minutes later,

who certainly enjoyed scoring against his former club. Diego

Costa's 50th Premier League goal gave Chelsea a 3-1 lead, he then

scored again at the death and there was a Nathan Redmond goal a few

moments before the end, 4-2. It's now over to Tottenham Hotspur, they

take on Crystal Palace on Wednesday at Selhurst Park and they will be

looking to regain or cut that lead at the top. Thank you for the

update. Plans to retire from the NASCAR

Monster Cup series at the end He's been most popular

driver 14 times! He's had a rough time

this year though and is This man is crawling

the London Marathon dressed as a gorilla, he's only

about half-way through the course and he's two days

after the race began. Tom Harrison, who calls

himself Mr Gorilla, has the goal finishing

on his hands and knees, You can find more on that on the BBC

news app. Stay with us - in a few minutes

we'll bring you a report from the US about efforts to combat

the notorious Central American Tim Farron has said he does not

think gay sex is soon. The Liberal Democrat leader was speaking to

political correspondent. I think it's fair to say I've

answered the question. It's a subject he's been

asked about again... You won't say whether you think

having gay sex is a sin... Does the honourable member think

that being gay is a sin? You said, homosexuality

is not a sin. They said that you didn't

answer when they asked While he said being gay is fine,

until today, the Lib Dem leader, a committed Christian,

has refused to answer this question. I take the view that,

as a political leader, though, my job is not to pontificate

on theological matters. This had become a talking

point, an issue. In that case, if people have kind

of got the wrong opinion of what I think about these issues,

then that's something It's taken him almost two

years, since becoming the leader of the Lib Dems,

to clarify his position. But the pressure has increased

since the election was called. So, what's changed in the last 48

hours that you are now able to say that you don't think gay sex

is a sin, yet for the last two years you have very blatantly

swerved the question? Well, I'm quite careful how

I talk about my faith. So you were either

misleading people before, So the answer to that is that

I was asked a question early on, and I didn't want to get into a sort

of series of questions unpicking Isn't it just that it

is your Christian belief, What I want is to make sure

that we deal with something It's a sense of understanding that,

you know, the questions I don't think people want political

party leaders telling Mr Farron insisted the Lib Dems have

undoubtedly the best record on gay But it's clear the issue

and the questions around it have troubled him personally,

and politically, too. Eleanor Garnier, BBC

News, Westminster. This is Outside Source. Our lead

story concerns the election. UK Prime Minister Theresa May

has taken her general election campaign to Wales,

stressing the importance of a United Kingdom

in Brexit negotiations. If you want more details on what the

Labour Party has been saying about its position on Brexit, you can find

that online on the BBC news website right now.

President Trump has argued that violent crime in America is largely

He has been saying the Democrats don't want to give him money for the

border wall despite the fact it will stop drugs and it will stop bad gang

members from MS13. First, it's heavily disputed that

that will have a significant impact And second, that reference

to the MS13 gang. It's just made headlines

because of brutal actions A week ago, four young men

were murdered in a forest This officer is on the lookout for

central members of the gang MS13, whose brutality has cost so much

freer here. Ending up on the wrong side of this gang can mean a death

sentence. Flowers mark where 15-year-old niece was found, beaten

to death by alleged members of MS13, the majority of whom were here

illegally. President Trump says it is precisely these cases that

justify a crackdown on immigration. Still in mourning, her parents say

there was no reason their daughter had to die. They want police to take

back the street as well as tougher screening of immigrants. When you

come to the United States it's a dream, you want to make a dream for

your family, everyone does. But some people just come for the wrong

thing. President Trump's campaign against illegal immigration has

threatened the trust between the police and the Latino community.

Police say they cannot fight gangs without information from the

immigrant community, so the risk is that the very policies President

Trump champions to make communities safer are instead making them more

dangerous. This commission says his officers will never act as

immigration enforcers. Winnie to make an environment in which people

feel comfortable coming to the police department to provide

information. The difficult challenges getting the word out.

When there is this rhetoric it is hard to compete with that noise. At

this refugee centre, the new residents are learning the language

of their new home in one of the few places they feel safe. It is not the

fear of gangs but the fear of deportation that makes them

uncomfortable coming to the police. People won't stop the police to ask

them anything for fear that without papers they might be arrested and

deported. Blaming crime on immigration was a key part of Donald

Trump's campaign, but with crime, as with other things, the early days of

his presidency show how hard it is to translate slogans into solutions.

That's the story of MS 13 in Long Island.

But this is a transnational gang.

It has its roots in El Salvador and there are over 2,500 members

And while many of the original members were from El Salvador,

the gang was properly established in Los Angeles and the San

A short while ago, I spoke to BBC Mundo's correspondent

in Los Angeles, Beatriz Diez - she explained how this gang started.

MS13 was formed here in Los Angeles in the 1980s by immigrants who were

fleeing El Salvador's brutal civil war and also fleeing poverty and

violence. And now that this group has existed for several decades,

does it still consider California to be its base? Actually what we are

seeing now, and as was reported before, this late rise of crimes

attribute it to this gang are happening on the east coast and that

is an interesting development. A few months ago I was working around the

streets of Los Angeles trying to do some research for a graphics 's

story and I saw the streets, and you can't really see much of the

remains, but the graffiti is not so much related to MS13 or the other

big gang operating in the 1980s in Los Angeles. In 1984 the Olympics

were being celebrated in Los Angeles, and the then-President

Ronald Reagan wanted to try to clean the streets so to say, and there

were very big crackdowns on the gangs. To what degree did the

American authorities and El Salvador authorities worked together on this?

What we saw afterwards, after the 1980s and in the 1990s, there were

many of these people, members of these gangs were deported back to El

Salvador and other Central American countries, because there are also

members from Honduras, what a Mahler and Mexico, although mainly they

were from El Salvador. They were deported back and that's how they

became so big in Central America because they were coming back from

California. If you speak Spanish comic and get news through BBC

Mundo.com. Ivanka Trump has made her first

foreign trip since being appointed She's in Germany, and has met

Angela Merkel among others. Taking her place among the world's

most powerful women. The First Daughter, rubbing

shoulders with a Chancellor, Though, almost immediately,

Ivanka Trump found herself He's been a tremendous champion

of supporting families, Donald Trump's special

adviser persisted. As a daughter, I can speak

on a very personal level, knowing that he encouraged me

and enabled me to thrive. I grew up in a house

where there was no barriers And the First Daughter has gone

on to make powerful friends. She's accompanied her father

to talks with the leaders Her first solo overseas trip

was at the direct invitation ...empowering women

and charming one in particular. Berlin wants, needs, stronger ties

to the Trump administration. TRANSLATION: It's the strategy

of dialogue, that's You can reach Trump

through his daughter. Every woman should do things

by her own, by her own status and by her own positions,

and not because of her What you're seeing here may well

mark a profound shift in the way that Germany,

Europe, does business Ivanka Trump wields significant

influence with her father. The relationship that Angela Merkel

and other leaders strike with the First Daughter will be

closely scrutinised on both Expect to see more of the First

Daughter on the international stage. In the age of Trump,

it seems, family comes first. Rajini, Ivanka Trump and her father

were incredibly powerful before this trip but I guess this builds on

that? Of course there has been a lot of criticism about her role in the

White House, people saying it is nepotism, but there are others,

especially Trump supporters I have spoken to, who like the fact she is

in the White House. She's always seen by her father 's side and she's

been credited for softening some of his policy stances. Eric Trump said

it was her influence that was one of the guiding factors that led

President Trump to launch the air strike in Syria. You have been

talking to 100 voters during Donald Trump's first 100 days in office,

here is a Facebook live you have just done with three of them. The

highlight I would say is the appointment of Judge Neil Gorsuch. I

think the lowlight was the reform of healthcare, the willingness of this

administration and the Republicans in Congress to allow 20 million

Americans to go without care was a tragedy. For me the highlight was

also Judge Neil Gorsuch. The question I get asked most about

American politics is to what degree did the people who voted for Donald

Trump change his mind or not about his performance. I should say this

was only 100 people so it is not a survey, just our own focus group,

but of 50 people who voted for Donald Trump who I contacted again,

only two of them said they wouldn't vote for him again. One of them said

it was because of the strikes in Syria, another said it was because

she was on the fence when she voted for him in the first place. Broadly

speaking every Trump supporter I have spoken to is happy with what he

has done. They said he has done exactly what he said he would do,

the travel ban, getting the wall under way, and one of the things

that comes up most is the appointment of Judge Neil Gorsuch.

That is why they say they are happy. Conversely, on the 50 who didn't

vote for Donald Trump, only about two said they would vote for him now

and they were Republicans who were on the fence, but every Democrat I

have spoken to cannot find much good to say about their president. Where

can we find all of these conversations you have been having?

You can find it on the BBC website, on the US and Canada section, and

there will be case studies about the people I have spoken to in the past

few weeks about President Trump's first 100 days. Thank you, Rajini.

There will be more coming on the website is the week goes on. I

should also mention that if you have a smartphone you can open your app

store, download the BBC news app. That's it for this edition, see you

tomorrow, goodbye. It certainly was a cold start of the

day on Tuesday with sunshine for many but showers developed quite

widely with rain, hail and sleet, and even some