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Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

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The pressure is mounting on Donald Trump as he faces

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the most serious allegations of his Presidency.

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He's accused of trying to stop an FBI investigation

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into links between his former National Security

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But the President has come out fighting.

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No politician in history - and I say this with great surety -

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has been treated worse or more unfairly.

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Leading Democrats are now demanding an independent commission

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into the Trump team's links with Russia.

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TRANSLATION: We are prepared to provide the Senate and the US

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congress with a transcipt of the conversation

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between our Foreign Minister and President Trump.

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It is reasonable to say Vladimir Putin enjoyed making that offer.

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That offer comes on the back of claims that Donald Trump leaked

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classified information to the Russians last week.

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We'll be live in Washington for more on all those developments.

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Any questions you've got, the hashtag is #BBCOS.

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US soldier Chelsea Manning has been freed from jail.

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We'll report from the military prison where she was held for seven

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years for passing thousands confidential documents to Wikileaks.

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And Emmanuel Macron has unveiled his new gender-balanced Cabinet chosen

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We'll find out who's in his top team.

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It is not a statement to -- an overstatement to say there is next

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essential threat to the Trump per 70. That is not to say that Mr Trump

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has done anything wrong, but there are profound and pressing about his

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conduct. Let's start by considering

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the last eight days. Last Tuesday Donald Trump fired FBI

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Director James Comey. Mr Trump said he was

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doing a bad job. He was also in charge of the FBI

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investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign

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team and Russia. The next day Mr Trump met Russia's

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foreign minister and the Russian Fast forward to Monday

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and the Washington Post It alleged Donald Trump

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shared classified And that intelligence officials were

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shocked and concerned at what the president had done.

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The next morning, Donald Trump confirmed

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information had been shared - but said it was appropriate.

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While that political maelstrom played out,

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the New York Times entered the fray yesterday.

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Its story claimed a memo written by James Comey after a meeting

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with the President details Mr Trump saying, "I hope

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That is referring to the investigation into Michael Flynn.

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That is with reference to these Flynn investigation. Allegedly

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asking for an investigation to be let go.

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Even for a man for whom controversy is a constant companion,

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Look at the way I have been treated lately. Especially by the media. No

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politician in history, and I say this with great surety, has been

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treated worse or more unfairly. You can't let them get you down. You

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can't let the critics and the naysayers get in the way of your

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dreams. We have spoken to you about any

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number of pressures on the president in recent months, am I right in

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saying this is different? It is very different, I have been here on the

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Hill all day speaking to senators. Republicans and Democrats have both

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told me this is the most serious allegation against the president yet

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because it does not involve just an error of judgment, it could stray

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into the realms of obstruction of justice. That, of course, is a

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criminal accusation. We have not got there yet and it is very difficult

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to prove because you have to prove intent. Certainly it is increasing

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calls from the Democrats for possible impeachment if it is proved

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true. There is a real sea change, there has been a lot of

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embarrassment for the Republicans, lots of I wish he had not said that

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in that way from the Republicans, but this is very, very different.

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Jane, we would like to explore that a bit more in a moment. As she was

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to, until now President Trump has had a political firewall around him,

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the Republicans control both houses of Congress but cracks are beginning

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to show. Some Republicans are calling for an independent

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prosecutor to be appointed at one has suggested Mr Trump should be

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impeached if the allegations are true, a Democrat has already called

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for him to be impeached. There is a feverish atmosphere in Washington.

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Before we go back there, here are some of the main statements. It is

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not too late that the administration needs to take stock of what it is

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doing and the president needs to listen to his advisers and better

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appreciate the nuances of government and the different roles that the

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three branches of government play. We need the facts. It is obvious

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people out there want to harm the president, but we have an obligation

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to carry out our oversight regardless of which party is in the

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White House, meaning that before rushing to judgment we get all the

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pertinent information. It seems like we are learning

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disturbing new allegations about President Trump, not just everyday

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but, ladies and gentlemen, every hour. In the house, Republicans have

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shown repeatedly that they refuse to conduct credible, robust oversight

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over this president. A US Senate panel is investigating

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both the alleged Russian -- U.S. Senate panel is requesting

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that James Komi testifies before its members. Now look at this, a

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Republican member of Congress saying that the part of the Congress that

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he represents also wants to speak to the former director. So both houses

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of Congress want to speak to him. Jane, I guess this means we will get

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a lot closer to understanding what was said or what is in the memo if

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it exists? That is the idea but I think there is a real irony that FBI

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Director James Comey was sacked by Donald Trump in parts because he

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considered him a showboat. He is out of the job but Republicans and

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Democrats, lawmakers, still want to speak to him. He is the man of the

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moment who holds the answers to lots of these questions swirling around

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Washington, the biggest one is what's did the president say? A

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couple of other things going on, we have heard in the last hour or so

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that a couple of candidates for the new job of director of the FBI will

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be in the White House in the next hour. Of course, getting a

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replacement for James Comey will be tough, Democrats say it is just not

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going to happen because there is so much contention about the whole

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thing. Interesting movements. And demands for members, e-mails,

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anything documenting conversations that Mr Comey had with Mr Trump at

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any moment, congressmen want to hear about that. A lot going on and a lot

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of fact gathering at the moment. Thank you, Jane.

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Jane mentioned he might take over from James Comey. Sean Spicer, the

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press secretary for the White House, saying the president will meet

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Andrew McCabe, the current acting FBI director, former Oklahoma

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Governor Frank Keating, former Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman

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and former senior FBI official Richard McCready. Anthony Zurcher is

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in the Washington News you. Those four candidates, are you surprised

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at them? I am. Frank Keating was a former FBI agent and governor of

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Oklahoma but he has been out of the political scene for quite some time,

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I believe he was on the board of Regents at University of Oklahoma,

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so that is plugging a name from nowhere. Joe Lieberman was on

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everyone's rips back in the early 2000s, he was Al Gore's vice

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president shall nominee when Al Gore had Democratic nomination. He became

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persona non grata in the Democratic party over his support for the Iraq

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war, he lost a primary and had to run as an independent and he has

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been a think tank guy and law firm board. The others are current or

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past FBI agents. McCabe is the acting FBI director since Comey was

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fired. I think there will be a lot of resistance to use and former

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politicians like Lieberman, I'd have heard from some Democrats saying

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those names are non-starters. Democrats particularly seasonably

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from the law-enforcement community, someone with a real independent

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streak that has grounding within the agency. I will be curious to see if

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they are really the finalists or if one of the earlier names pops up

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again. Another thing I wanted to ask you about, this is an online

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magazine called The Federalist, one of its headlines is Tips For Reading

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Washington Post Articles About Trump With Tip Of Strong Anonymous

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Sources. It says do not trust anonymous sources. Unless someone is

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willing to put his or her name with the league, beyond God. Lots of

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these stories have been based anonymous sources. -- unless someone

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is willing to put his or her name with the leak, be on guard. Many

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people are saying why trust this league, we do not know where it

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comes from? It is journalism 101, if you can get a named source that is

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much better than an anonymous source, if you are going to cite

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someone anonymously you'd have a good reason, whether it is because

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they are afraid of repercussions from superiors or some other reason,

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fallout from what they are sharing. Sometimes all you can get is

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anonymous sources, if you have further information to back them up

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then you run with them, if you have multiple sources from different

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areas saying the same thing, that is a way to flesh out the reporting. It

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is a question of trust in the media, the reason that lots of

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conservatives doubt this is they think the mainstream media, the New

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York Times and Washington Post, they have an agenda so they are using

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anonymous sources to advance that agenda. Once again I think it goes

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back to the partisan divide. Thank you, Anthony.

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The Washington Post story alleged the information had been shared, Mr

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Trump agrees that it had. The disagreement was not about whether

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it happened but whether it was appropriate. With reference to the

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New York Times story, based on an anonymous source, both houses of

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Congress want to speak to James Comey, the man who allegedly wrote

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that memo and allegedly said the president asked him to deal with the

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Michael Flynn inquiry. We shall find out from him whether he agrees with

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the New York Times report. Don't for a moment think that is it.

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To make things murkier, Russia is denying that any

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confidential information was shared in that meeting in the Oval Office.

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And President Putin commented earlier.

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TRANSLATION: We are prepared to provide the Senate and the US

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Congress with a transcript of the conversation between Foreign

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Minister and President Trump, but only if the American administration

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wanted. Yes, that's right - he's saying

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he can provide a transcript. The Russian president saying he can

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provide that for the US Congress about a discussion which took place

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in the Oval Office of the White House. No wonder there was a twinkle

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in his eye! He is quite right, we do not know if

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there is a recording. It is not clear what Mr Putin's comments Meta,

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you can be certain he was causing mischief. Here is Steve Rosenberg in

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Moscow. You cannot help feeling that the

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criminal absorbers. As the US administration staggers from one

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crisis to another, all seemingly linked to Moscow, Russia is sitting

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back and watching a political rival terror itself apart. President

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Putin's comments were full of jokes, sarcasm and the downs. Among the

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jokes he said he would have to reprimand his Foreign Minister

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Sergei Lavrov, who met Donald Trump earlier this month, because he said

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Mr Lavrov had not passed on the secrets he was allegedly given to Mr

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Putin or the Russian secret services, he joked, and that was

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very bad of Mr Lavrov, said Putin. There were many put-downs. He said

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there was political schizophrenia in the United States, he said those

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people in America spreading anti-Russian sentiments were either

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stupid or dangerous and dishonest. He talked about the internal

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political struggle in America. As for his offer to provide a

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transcript of the meeting, to provide that to the Congress and the

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Senate, I don't think you see Risley believes that if Russia was to

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provide a transcript on Kremlin headed notepaper that it would make

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the crisis go away. I think it was another attempt to have a dig at

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America while the scandals were swirling around the lighthouse. --

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the White House. Stay with us on Outside Source -

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still to come... There has been documentation of how

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the damage to a liberal's electric system has affected the light

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available to the people who live there.

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Lloyds Bank, which was bailed out by the taxpayer at the height

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of the financial crisis, has returned to full

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It was confirmed to the Stock Exchange this morning

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that the government has sold its last remaining

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The bank says taxpayers made a profit out of the deal.

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We gave taxpayers money back, around ?900 million more which is, I think,

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a big moment of pride. What changes for the bank as a result of today?

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What do you do differently? It is a big moment of pride but then we go

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back to our process, to help the country prosper. Six years ago we

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designed a strategy which I thought was the right one which was to

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refocus this bank back to the United Kingdom, helped the real economy, so

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families and small and medium-size companies, focus our resources,

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which were very scarce at the time, in helping Britain to recover.

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We are live from the BBC Newsroom Live. President Trump has been

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responding to reports that he is the FBI to end the inquiry into Michael

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Flynn. He says he is being treated worse than any political leader in

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history by the press. Some of the main stories from BBC World

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Service... Nine people were injured in two

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arrested outside the Turkish Embassy in Washington. A fight broke out

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between enemies and supporters of President Erdogan. He had been

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meeting with President Trump. That is from BBC Turkish. The Tornado in

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western Oklahoma has destroyed hundreds toe dozens of homes and

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killed at least one person. Police have told residents to stay home

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until power is restored. Now the UK election campaign.

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Just over two years ago, the Liberal Democrats

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were the junior partner in the British coalition government.

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Then came the 2015 vote, and electoral meltdown -

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leaving them just eight parliamentary seats

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On Wednesday, their leader Tim Farron launched

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the manifesto which he hopes will bring voters back.

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. At the heart it is that we do not just have to accept whichever deal

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we get back from the Brexit negotiations were due, the British

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people should have the final say, if you do not like what Theresa May

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comes back with, you should have the right to votes Tremain. Three

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quarters of younger people in this country voted to Remain, they are a

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reminder of why there is so much dismay at what Theresa May plans to

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do, the most extreme version of Brexit that Jeremy Corbyn and Ukip

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backed as well. The Lib Dems are the only people offering hope that

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Britain's future could be brighter and better.

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Yes, you heard that right - he expects Theresa May's

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Conservatives to win, and he wants the British

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people to have another referendum on Brexit.

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As with all of the main parties in this election,

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you can find the whole Lib Dem manifesto online.

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But let's take a quick look at some of the other headline promises.

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Cannabis would be legalised and subject to taxation.

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They have said that could generate to ?1 billion a year. The current

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voting age is 18 in Britain. Young people would be able

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to vote from the age of 16, and be offered state help to get

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on the housing ladder. And a large part of the funding

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would come from tax increases - including a penny in the pound

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on income tax. Tom, good to have you on the

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programme. Lots of policies that might attract younger voters, but it

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is a bit of a gamble given that younger voters tend to turn up less

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than others? The Lib Dems have dispatched with the idea of doing a

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coalition deal with any other party, which is the thing that got them

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into power in 2010. They have to find a new place for themselves,

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this referendum deal where they are simply saying if you don't like the

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deal that the British government does, you can votes against it and,

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in effect, I think they hope there will be a big number of Leave voters

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who suddenly decides they are not interested in leaving. I think Tim

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Farron also hopes that the youth vote like that idea, lots of young

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people did not votes in the referendum, they might not like the

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idea of leaving the EU no, there this benefits and that it might

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cause. The hope is that that will bring them on side. But when the Lib

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Dems weren't Government they agreed to increase radically the cost of

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going to university in the UK, the tuition fees, which was deeply

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unpopular. I covered the rioting that happened in central London when

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that was voted through Parliament. There was enormous anger. The

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concern, I think, among Lib Dems is that some of those young people who

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went through that period and now have big debts, they have been to

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university, will not be interested in voting Liberal Democrat. Another

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problem is that the Lib Dems is pushing away, potentially, voters

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who did vote to leave the EU, they may well move to the Conservatives,

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who currently have a big lead in the polls. With the Labour Party moving

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to the left, the Conservatives moving to the right, you look at

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France and the success of the centrist candidate like a Emmanuel

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Macron, it is interesting that the Lib Dems are not making more ground

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in the centre? Tim Farron gave a speech in London tonight to launch

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the manifesto and said that if you look at the French elections, the

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previous two main parties in France came third and fifth, leaving the

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voters of France with a choice between Macron and the National

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front. He said that was not something the Lib Dems were prepared

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to stand for in the UK, they will continue the fight. Looking at the

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manifesto, it is very similar in some ways to the Labour manifesto,

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we will reverse the cuts to tax and spending that the Conservatives saw

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through in 2010 onwards. Interestingly, with the help of the

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Lib Dems, we will spend more on schools, hospitals, caring for the

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elderly. It is fair to say the Liberal Democrat format is likely

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less radical than Labour, which will do a lot more tax-and-spend than has

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been popular or stunted in British politics in the last 20 years, but

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it is quite similar. A couple of policies stand out. They are

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planning to directly invest, the Government doing this, in

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house-building. Housing problems are enormous, a lack of housing,

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especially for young people. In general it is similar to Labour.

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They are building the manifesto on the offer of a referendum, trying to

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make in themselves a home for people who want to remain in the EU, saying

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votes followers of that is what you want. Thank you, Tom.

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Let's take a closer look at the fallout from the contorversy

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surrounding Donald Trump in Washington.

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BBC business tell us that the Wall Street stock markets fall as

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political uncertainty intensifies. You can see the reflection of this

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concern. This graph is Bloomberg's Dollar

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Spot Index which measures how the US currency is doing against ten

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leading global currencies. See how the dollar peaks in line

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with Donald Trump's victory and inauguration and has been going

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gently down ever since. Explain the correlation between

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confidence in Donald Trump and a strong dollar? Generally people go

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to the US dollar because it is seen as a very strong and stable place.

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If you have money and want to keep it safe, keep it in the US dollar.

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That confidence is eroding because of what has happened in Washington.

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There are even words of possible impeachment being thrown around in

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Washington with regards to what is happening with Donald Trump and the

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reports that he may have suggested that he and the Federal

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investigation into the former national security adviser Michael

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Flynn and his ties to Russia. What is really worrying Wall Street with

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regards to that is that it all acts as a distraction from the kinds of

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things Wall Street wants to see, and that is tax reform and that big

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spending for infrastructure. If he is paroled in all these other sagas,

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lawmakers will not be able to put the attention to some of the

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regulatory matters that Wall Street wants to see happen. It is not just

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about the US currency falling, the markets have come back a bit from

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the peaks we saw earlier in the year? Absolutely, US markets have

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closed and we are seeing nothing but red across-the-board, the Dow Jones

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and the other indexes have fallen by about 1.7 1.8%, the Nasdaq is down

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by 2.5%. That said, we have not seen what we call a correction, pull back

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from the markets, in a very long time. Some people say we are due

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this sort of correction and this may be the impetus for that to happen.

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Thank you for taking us through that.

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I will be back in a couple of minutes with more Global News from

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the BBC Newsroom Live.

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