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You are very welcome to outside source and restore the programme

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with the breaking news that within the past hour Donald Trump has

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announced the US will withdraw from the Paris climate agreement, he said

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America can get a better deal. The Paris climate accord is the latest

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example of Washington entering an agreement which disadvantages the

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United States. This is to the exclusive benefit of other countries

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leaving American workers who I love and taxpayers to absorb the cost in

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terms of lost jobs, lower wages, shuttered factories and vastly

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diminished economic production. Thus as of today the United States will

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cease all implementation of the non-binding Paris Accord, and the

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Draconian financial and economic burdens that the agreement opposes

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in our country. So we have of course been watching this, Barbara was

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there, good to have you with us, I suppose that's this was the expected

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announcement, Watts was -- what was the reaction? And it was a friendly

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audience, people erupted into applause several times but we were

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told he had Ben hearing advice from all sides, those who wanted to pull

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out and those who didn't, he had been weighing up the arguments but

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we had one line coming from this speech, the accord which was a

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punishment, he spoke in nationalistic terms of how it was a

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violation of American sovereignty. How it disadvantages America at the

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expense of other countries. He even said the lobbyists wanted to join

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this because they knew that they would gain whilst the US would be

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weakened economically. He used very strong language I thought. He said

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he would like to get back into the Accord if he can negotiate better

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terms or negotiate a better one altogether, that is something the

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members of the accord would have to agree to yell it seems unlikely

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given the way they have been rallying around it in the last

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couple of weeks. Almost a stump speech Barbara about him being

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elected by people in Pittsburgh and Paris but what about this, if the US

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leaves, the diplomatic fallout, most of the countries will De Beer

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pushback on a wider level? They will continue to try to convince the US

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otherwise and we have seen today and will see it tomorrow as well. The

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Chinese PM will attend a meeting at the EU in which there will be a

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joint statement committing themselves to the document and

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putting together an alliance in making sure that it gets implemented

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in clean energy projects so they have sent statement saying there

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were continued US doesn't. If the US doesn't dissolve the nutters in the

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case you do have the United States which is the largest economy in the

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world, the second largest emitter of greenhouse gases not being part of

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this agreement means it will weaken the agreement sure. Having said that

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there is opposition forming already in the United States at the level of

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cities and in the level of the states. They have also signalled

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that they will do that. Stay with us because I want to bring a quote that

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is coming from the former president, the predecessor who put it in place,

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Barack Obama, he says I believe the United States should be at the front

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of the pack. But also he says... He is confident the states it

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businesses will step up and do even more to lead the way. Also...

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Interesting, that statement was almost coming out as Donald Trump

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the Speaker but I suppose the thing is, if it were to be picked, it'll

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take years as we were from Jean-Claude Junker, 2020 would be

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the earliest time which would be another election year? Yes it is a

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long process to withdraw and Mr Chan said that from the beginning, from

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this moment the United States would not sign underwritten in particular

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who said that they would stop any contributions to files that have an

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agreed colour green funds to help developing countries. He betrayed US

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world in conspiratorially turned saying they were out for Americans

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and they shouldn't suffer for the people not paying as much. It takes

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a period of years before it is formalised than another year before

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it is... There might be another president in the White House who

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might reverse course again and I think those who are taking active

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position saying we'll continue with the climate policies, they are

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hoping to complete the momentum going up until that point spurt the

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audience the speech was aimed at which was Mr Trump's constituency,

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the blue-collar working class who believes this climate accord is

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killing jobs, they will very much applaud this move and the audiences

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here are Republicans who do feel like it puts America as an economic

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disadvantage and he will not get any pushback from that quarter. I was

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wondering the clapping and applause, he was it may be doing that the TV

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explained it was a friendly audience. Donald Trump has a

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decision to abandon the Paris Accord, shocked and angered many

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world leaders, this was Ali hinted, ... The Chinese premier confirming

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his country will stick with the deal. TRANSLATION: China will

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continue to implement promises made to move towards the 2030 goal

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step-by-step, steadfastly. But of course we also hope to do this in

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with others. That is one voice coming in and this week Angela

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Merkel said Germany will have to look after itself and it cannot rely

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on the United States and the UK because of Mr Trump and Brexit. I

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also want to bring up a tweet. Donald Tusk has written, please

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don't change and then in brackets, the political climate for the worst.

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The United States has voiced its concerns. It's important other

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governments stay the course, this is essential for our collective future

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and it's important that American society is like all other societies

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and the business communities that mobilise as a central piece indeed

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the future... Stephen Clegg Francis has hinted at his desire when it

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comes to the agreement. He handed Mr Trump a signed copy of his work

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chronicling the need to fight climate change during the

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President's visit to the Vatican. Mr Trump says he would read them. So

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whether he did or not we can't know. The president of the European

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Commission has said that, take a listen to this. The Americans cannot

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sleep the climate protection agreement, Mr Trump believes that

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because he doesn't get close enough to the DOS is to fully understand

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them. It would take three years after the agreement to leave the

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agreement so this notion that I am Trump, I am America and America will

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get out of it won't happen. The battle and the timing of what could

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or could not happen, let's speak with our European editor in Brussels

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now, Festival I know we were bringing some voices before the

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announcement was made and he has gone ahead and pulled out of the

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Paris Accord so what is this move European leaders? We have heard

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immediately from the European Commissioner for energy and climate

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and he has said that the E deeply regretted an ally as he said,

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turning his back, the European leaders sat with President Trump

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last week air in Brussels and European leaders met with him at the

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G7 in Italy and they urged him not to leave the Paris Accord. It's

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makes good sense for the United States to invest in renewable

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energy, you can make America a great and they were hoping he would stay

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in the Paris Accord, but of course he hasn't. Europe will regret that

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that there will be a tensing of relations between these two allies,

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the European Union and the United States. You're pointing at a tweet

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earlier on from the European Council Presidents Donald Tusk uses police

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make the climate any worse. And those meetings, as we heard

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President Trump speaking this afternoon, he made a jive to limit

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jive at European partners when saying the powers who are asking him

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to stay, were the ones who weren't pulling their weight in terms of

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trade and military spending and were being unfair to its United States.

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The European union will feel that and leaders meet in Brussels and

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will issue a joint statement saying they will continue with the Accord

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and will continue to fight to stop global warming. We should not rush

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just to say there is a break between the US and the EU because there are

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still a lot more in common that the EU has in common with China. This is

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coming in such an interesting time, Britain and the E, can they work

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together post Brexit in the same way, can China may be become the

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leaders now? It's ironic if you see China accepted the court at the

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time, President Obama was a real leading figure, they really helped

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to get the US on board, the US is the second biggest carbon emitter in

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the world, China is number one so the fact those two power signed up

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to the Accord was a big coup at the time. They are happy when they can

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agree on something at the moment they can agree on climate change,

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the leadership in China knows it is in its interest, the people are

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getting angry and it has seen the business advantages investing in

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renewable energy. So with the European Union they will fight on

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climate change and they will fight for free trade as well, both points

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in which there are now points of tension between the European Union

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and the United States but again as I say, we really should not see all of

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these in black and white terms, this does not mean the relationship

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between the European Union and the United States is broken and then

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have China as a best buddy, these are all shades of grey rather than

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black and white. Thank you. Stay with us, an outside source still to

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come. We will speak to the Seychelles ambassador on the

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decision of Donald Trump to pull the US out of the Paris climate accord.

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This is outside source live. Our top story. Donald Trump has announced

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the United States will pull out of the Paris climate agreements, he

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says it is the latest example of Washington tenting agreement that

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benefited others and he would be re-entering the Accord on terms

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fairer to the United States. Let's look at the stories in the language

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services are looking at. The gunman have stormed a hotel in Manila and

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witnesses have said the gunmen have been wearing masks and shooting at

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guests close to Manila airport. The army said police were controlled,

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the EIS said their militants caused the attack was so far no casualty

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numbers -- Isis. Pakistan has denied allegations that it was involved in

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the car bomb in Kaboul is baseless. The explosion killed around 90

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people and injured 350 others. Let's return to the story and get

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more reaction now, further afield and joining me from New York is the

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Seychelles ambassador to the United Nations, thank you very much for

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coming on ambassador, do you want to describe your reaction to this and

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putting it into the context of the Seychelles? Thank you for having me.

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As hopefully everybody knows by now, small islands, the small island

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developing states like ours are the least responsible for climate change

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but we are the ones who suffer the most from it. Some of our small

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islands in the Pacific and Indian Ocean could actually disappear off

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the face of the earth. We are very dismayed. We would have liked the US

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to stay in the Paris Agreement, we are dismayed but from our

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perspective, especially from the involvement in the climate

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negotiations it is not as catastrophic as other people seem to

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be thinking it to because the world has been anticipating this. Whilst

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we have all wanted the US to stay in the Paris Agreement, we have been

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anticipating this and we have seen moves now for climate leadership to

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move from China and the US to what looks like a coalition between the

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European Union and Asia. For example Chancellor Merkel this week has

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hosted the Prime Minister of India and is now hosting the Prime

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Minister of China and China as we know is currently the biggest

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emitter. There will be a statement tomorrow but ambassador put it in

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very stark words for our viewers, if nothing more is done on climate

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change, what would happen to your country? Well, those small islands

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that do not disappear physically, that is they slipped underwater,

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will become economically unviable and will become failed states

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because even the islands which will stay above water, the economy is

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based mainly on tourism, marine -based tourism and fisheries and we

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have been learning from scientists what climate change and global

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warming will do to the oceans, it would story fisheries and they will

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move to cold waters. It will erode ages, we are seeing that in the

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Seychelles and our number one industry is tourism. The coral

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reefs, all of this is severely affected. Which means all of us who

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are remaining in the Paris Agreement and that of course is 194 out of 195

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there have to step up our game and see amongst ourselves how can we

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make up for the gap, at least in the short term because according to the

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latest science, the US's absence will not have an effect in the short

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term if China and India continue to surpass their pledges which latest

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indications do show. Now it might be that he renegotiate, this is what is

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asking for and that he goes ahead with a better deal, do you hold out

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much hope for that happening? Well amongst us there is still a jury

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out. We are not sure what he means by renegotiating. We're not sure

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what he will ask for and we're not sure, depending on what he asks for

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what effect might have on other countries in the Paris Agreement.

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One of the fears has been that if the US leaves, will others leave but

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we do not see indications of that yet. The positive spirit that came

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out of Paris seems to be holding and in fact it might have had a counter

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effect in the US withdrawal in that it's made us in the Paris Agreement

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more determined to make this work but should they stay take four years

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for them to withdraw and then they start making demands others cannot

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abide by. I understand ambassador. Thank you. Sticklers for Ross Atkins

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from Cornwall. Yesterday we were talking about

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clusters of thunderstorms on the coast of Mexico developing into

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something sinister, that has happened and the swell of cloud, a

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tropical depression is a weakened foam of a hurricane. The rain and

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wind not as intense but the rain will be heavy enough and the wind is

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strong enough to cause problems in eastern Mexico. Especially in some

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of these coastal districts, all of the moisture feeding in and we could

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see lots of heavy rain, flash flooding and mudslides. Warm air is

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pumping into southern parts of the US feeding the storm clouds from

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Texas all the way through to northern Florida or the way through

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Friday and Saturday and we have seen storms through to the north and in

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the past 24 hours this is the scene in Toronto through Wednesday night.

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Spectacular thunderstorm here and those are now easing away. There are

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storm clout easing winners in Bangladesh, we saw a tropical

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cyclone hit at the start of the week and still some big storm clouds

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around, these are being fed by the southerly winds but it is a time of

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year when we see the south-west monsoon bringing welcoming rains too

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many part of the country. It's vital for crop growth and the heaviest of

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the rains tend to be towards the south-west that we will see storm is

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getting postman to Mumbai at times, not near Delhi, the pre-monsoon heat

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is building. Into the 40s by Sunday afternoon. In contrast to these

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scenes in Bolivia, they are experiencing the coldest weather in

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about half a century. Temperatures all year long around 17-18, not much

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variation, in the next few days the night-time temperatures have been

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creeping up after frost. Yesterday you would have seen these pictures

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from Germany on Tuesday, severe standard storms rattling across

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Berlin and we have seen more and more to come. The storms across

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alpine regions take on the Thursday morning and went to Friday there

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will be back again. Some of these would be torrential in places and we

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will see a few more across the Balkans over the next few days. It

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is being caused by the build-up of heat over the past few days,

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temperatures are widely high 20s or 30s across central and western new

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Europe, much cooler to the north-west. North-east even. As we

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go into Saturday the temperature drops and to get into fresh air

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units having to an active weather system coming through. Northern

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parts of Spain, France and into Germany and in the alpine regions,

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these areas as we go through Friday and Saturday, we could see some

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physically nasty storms, with it we will see Flash running and in terms

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of 50 millimetres of rain in terms of a day, large hail and damaging

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winds. In the UK the forecast for the week ahead is coming up the next

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30 minutes. Hello, I'm Ros Atkins,

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this is Outside Source. With just seven days to go

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until the UK general election, we're broadcasting live

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from Cornwall. We must turn to Washington first,

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President Trump has confirmed that the US will be withdrawing from the

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Paris Agreement, on combatting climate change.

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As of today, the United States will cease all implement they of the

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non-binding Paris accord, and the Draconian financial and economic

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burden, the agreement imposes on our country.

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Brexit remains the central issue for Theresa May.

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I am confident that we can fulfill the promise of Brexit

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together and build a Britain that is stronger, fairer and even

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Jeremy Corbyn is a few hundred miles east of here in Essex,

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where he has warned that Theresa May's approach to Brexit

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Theresa May says no deal is better than a bad deal.

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Let's be clear - no deal is in fact a bad deal.

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Across this half hour if you have questions about the general election

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and Brexit and how the two things fit together we will speak to some

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of the biggest hitters in Cornish politics, send your points our way.

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The same contact details apply. BBC OS is the hashtag.

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To work Outside Source. Welcome to Cornwall. Around this

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time, next week, the polls will be almost closed, in the UK general

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election an of course we don't know what the outcome will be but we can

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be certain which ever Government emerges it its primary task will be

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negotiating Brexit. We will get into that in a moment.

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Let me tell you more about where I am.

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The County benefits from the tourism industry. It was teeming with

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tourists earlierment while the industry is successful here,

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Cornwall is one of the poorest areas not just in the UK but in western

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Europe, it also supported Brexit, and that is posed a conundrum for

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the politicians down here, because as you will know politicians from

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across the political spectrum campaigned for remain and campaigned

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to leave and we are here to understand how Brexit is factoring

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into the calculations being made by Cornish boaters because let us make

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no bones about it this election is happening because of Brexit. Theresa

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May our Prime Minister says she wants a stronger hand when entering

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the Brexit negotiations and when you look at the poll, when she called

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the election, lots of people could understand why she went for it. She

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had leads of up to 20%, but the opposition leader, Jeremy Corbyn,

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has had by all accounts a good campaign and if you look at the

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BBC's latest poll of polls, and the Tories are in blue, the Labour Party

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in red, you will see those polls are starting to narrow.

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Now, last night, the BBC hosted a leaders debate, there were seven

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people taking part. Jeremy Corbyn was one of them. Theresa May wasn't.

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Instead, is she asked one of her ministers Amber Rudd to attend, this

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is how the debate went. There is no extra payment you don't want to add

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to, no tax you don't want to rise, but the fact is we have to

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concentrate our resource on the people who need it most, and we have

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to stop thinking as you do, that there is a magic money tree. I would

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say this since am before rubbed seems so confident this is a country

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at ease with itself, have you been to a food bank, have you seen people

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sleeping round the stations? Have you seen...

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APPLAUSE Of course... Have you seen the

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level, have you seen the level of poverty that that exists because of

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your Government, conscious decisions on benefits. Have been to food

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banks. For amber to say this is is a Government that cares for the

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vulnerable is insulting to the kind of people I see in my constituency

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southernry. The fact is we need to remain in the single market or we

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will not be able to afford the National Health Service, social care

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or any of the support we are talking about. If Jeremy cared about having

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enough money to spend on those who need it the most, to raise living

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standards he would not have trooped through the lobbies with the

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Conservatives and Ukip to make Britain poorer.

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Well we have loss Ros for a couple of my opinion, we are going to try

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to reconnect the line to Cornwall. We did ask Tom Bateman to give us an

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update. It has been a day today where the

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issue of Brexit has become front and centre once again of this election

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campaign here in the UK, and much of it really has been about tone, we

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had the Prime Minister Theresa May giving a big speech on all this, a

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set piece speech, in which she tried to suggest that there was a real

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sense of optimism in her view about what Britain can achieve through

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that Brexit process. So, we apologise for losing the pictures on

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that but what about this question about why Cornwall, why Ros is

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there. This is how they voted in 2010 -

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three seats to the Conservative Party and three to the Liberal

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Democrats. Those are the two parties

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that formed a coalition Here's the 2015 result -

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all Conservative. And in the EU referendum last year -

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56% voted to leave, and 43 to stay. But there are some serious economic

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and the social issues in the county. To find out what voters

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here cared about the most, Ros went along to BBC Radio

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Cornwall's phone-in programme. So welcome to BBC Radio Cornwall.

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This is lawyer press Reed I am joined by Ross Atkins to help you

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out. I am hoping to understand the reasons people voted for or against

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Brexit, now in form how they are going to vote in the general

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election. I have no faith in the Labour Party. I really don't. And

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because they undermine my vote in Brexit, because they make me feel

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like what I have to say and why I voted the way I voted, I obviously

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had lost my mind. Gill. Good afternoon. For many years I was a

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member of Ukip. I really feel Ukip have done their job now and Nigel

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Farage has resigned. Sue is in Liskeard, afternoon to you. How are

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you? You are talking to Ros. This will be the first time in over 40

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years I voted Conservative. I think Mrs May is the one who is going to

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do it for us. Lorraine. What they have done to our fishermen is

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disgraceful. We got no quota for certain fish and we are looking at

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Spanish vessels fishing for our fish. I have been a Tory supporter

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all my life, and now I have turned completely against them. I don't

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trust them at all. I think we were all misled, both sides, we all

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remember the bus with the millions of pounds that was going to go to

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the NHS. Where are those millions? Not there are they. I will vote for

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Theresa May and the Conservatives, because whenever this country has

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had its back against the wall, whether it was the last war, it has

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been a Conservative, last time it was Churchill. Thank you very much

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for all our listener, we only scratched the surface. Shall we do

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it again? We will do it again. Lawrence Reed, BBC Cornwall.

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That was Ros and one of the local BBC station in Cornwall.

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Fishery's a big part of the Cornish economy,

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and it's fair to say the industry got behind Brexit strongly.

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But it's just one of the many British industries the Government

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is going to have to look out for in the negotiations with Europe.

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% of the population took 5% of the UK investment, and from 2000, 2014,

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?888 million from the EU went to Cornwall and also the Isles of

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Scilly which are nearby. Then, from 2014, to 2020, it was 480 million

:33:30.:33:36.

but when it came to getting Government funding they were given

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just 18 million in local economy investment funding. Ros has been

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talking to Ruth Huxley, a local business leader about what leaving

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the EU could mean for Cornwall. For the business of the food and

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drink sector, the concern with manufacturing is Cornwall 's largest

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manufacturing industry food and drink is the uncertainty around the

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economy and the economic impact of things like migrant Labour and

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exchange rates. Brexit appears to be here to stay, it is Brexit having

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more of an impact on the businesses I work with, than the outcome of

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this election. What about the Cornish brand? When I compare when I

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was growing up here, not that many things put Cornwall or Cornish in

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their name, now there is a pro liveration. Does Brexit offer a

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challenge to that? Challenge or opportunity, opportunity perhaps if

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it affects the exchange rates to the extent more people come to Cornwall

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and are able to enjoy the products, more challenges to people exporting,

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imports ingredients, who knows. Tell me quickly about the pasty, is it

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OK, is it protected? You are happy with its long-term future? The pasty

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is protected by European protective food name. It is a European scheme

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that is recognised widely and by third country, we are reassured that

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will continue, but it is not guaranteed yet so the Cornish pasty

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association I work with closely is very keen to move things along, it

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is working, business as usual as far as they are concerned, but, that,

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those assurances and those defintives can't come soon enough.

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Speaking of pasty, let me grab this I spotted earlier, you see this,

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this is a pasty flavoured bag of crisps. I mean, I am proud and

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Cornish but this feels possibly a step too far. I don't think so at

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all. Many of our customers would disagree, it is by far our best

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selling flavour of crisps. Have you tried them? Yes They are made with

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real beef and everything you would expect to be in a pasty. I didn't

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get a chance to try those crisps but if any of you watching in Cornwall

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let me know, I was not convinced about them but there we go. In a

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minute we will speak to three of the biggest names in Cornish politics

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about Brexit and how it fits into whether their parties are picking up

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support or not. Send us some questions for those three guests who

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will speak to in a moment on Outside Source.

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Now as you may well no fisheries is a big part of the Cornish economy.

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And it is fair to say the fisheries industry here in Cornwall was very

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much for Brexit, you don't have to look hard for unhappy fishermen when

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it comes to the EUment fisheries is one issue of many that will have to

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fit into new deals being cut between the yuck and ewe. I have been -- UK

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and EU. I have been talking to George Eustace, he is a minister

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with responsibility for fisheries are. There are two separate elements

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to the negotiation, one is how we manage fisheries, and of course, in

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future there still annual negotiations round how we share

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quotas, we are not going to pull up the drawbridge and stop talking to

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other countries, there won't be an ex clue zone, there will be annual

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negotiations but when it comes to trade, there is a separate

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negotiation and we are be buying from Europe, things like cars and

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maybe champagne from France, and fruit and veg, they want to sell us

:37:22.:37:26.

those products and in return we will expect them to buy our fishery

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products tariff free. Quotas are about conserving fish, aren't they,

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so this expectation I have heard from some Cornish people once we are

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out we will be able to go and get all the fish we can and make as much

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money, may not materialise? No, look, I was very clear during the

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referendum campaign, and I campaigned to leave but very clear

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we are still going to fish sustainably in line with science and

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there will be a quota system, you have to fish within sustainable

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limits if you want to protect stock, so those things won't change, what

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will change is we will be able to negotiate a fairer share of quotas,

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here in the West Country, France has round five times as much haddock

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quota and five times as much cod quota as Cornish firer men, that is

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not fair and doesn't reflect where the stock reseeds. One last

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question, you have been a strong proponent of Brexit for a long time.

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I heard caller after caller giving me huge expectation of what Brexit

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is going to deliver, not just to do with fisheries but Britain's

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standing in the world, to do with the Cornish economy, to do with the

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NHS, the list went on and on, are you worried you have raised

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expectations to unrealistic levels? No, not all all. I have been a

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minister in Defra to four years and I have never known there be such a

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buzz and excitement about the potential.

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Welcome back to Outside Source. We are live on the south coast of

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Cornwall in the far south-west of England, talking about Brexit and

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how it plays into the UK election which is one week away. Let me

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introduce you to three big names of Cornish politics, Sarah Newton,

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Andrew George was an MP for 18 years and he is trying to win his seat

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back and you were the last Labour MP in Cornwall. . We are going to

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change that. Do you think so I think we do. Really? The local election

:39:31.:39:34.

suggested that there are few issues for the Labour Party. Yes, we really

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increased or majority, where we were standing, and there are parts of

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Cornwall that have a long tradition of Labour representation. There were

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boundary changes and that hurt the Labour Party and people now are

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coming back, really big, very excited about next Thursday. We will

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see how it goes. Undoubtedly this is a complicated election because

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Brexit didn't follow party linesful how is it playing into your effort

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for support. Most people, even though they wanted to remain, they

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wanted to remain in the European Union just want to get on with it.

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They want a strong Prime Minister, a positive team, to actually get the

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best possible deal they can, for Britain and so we are seeing on the

:40:19.:40:22.

doorsteps people from all party, switching, because they just know

:40:23.:40:25.

than my colleagues and I with Theresa May will be able to deliver

:40:26.:40:30.

the best outcome, in Brexit for gaul. Yours is different tack

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Andrew. Not really, I mean, the fact is that as Sarah rightly say,

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certainly, many of those who voted Remain and I obviously campaigned to

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remain, have now decided the majority they are now reLee veries,

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I suppose and they accept that democracy, we must move on, we now

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need to make sure that Brexit doesn't harm places like Cornwall.

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Cornwall is a very high risk of being one of the big losers from

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Brexit. What we need to do is make sure they are, local people, whether

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they be fishermen, many of whom voted for Remain, in spite of what

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your report says. Most didn't. A lot of the leader, those who lead the

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industry, actually, perhaps you didn't speak to him, because at the

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public meetings I called and the Tory MP wouldn't come to, they, they

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were very clearly actually saying that we need to be pragmatic about

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this issue and the last time the Conservatives were in, they said

:41:38.:41:40.

that the fishing industry was expendable. Let us bring you in.

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Cornwall is a very disparate, we are not a homogenous fishing community,

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we have two universities, there is a different issue round Brexit. I it

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is not just about farming and fish, we are a diverse economy and for the

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universities, for renewable energies and new industries which have had

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huge sums of European money which was a Labour Government success, it

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is a tragedy now. The poorest part of the UK is going to be struggling

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again. Can I say Cornwall has particular aspects to it, and that

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is why I am so pleased we have managed to get a commitment in our

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manifesto, so that all of the funding that Cornwall would have

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got, had we remained in the European Union. Union. THEY ALL TALK AT ONCE.

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You are talking about the regional fund. The European programme, the

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money that would have got till 2020 is committed, a lot of it has been

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spent. It is already going... ?2 billion. To the prosperity fund so

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it will go forward. You might as well put that on the side of a red

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bus. Let me ask you quickly before we wrap up here, are you worried

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that there are expectations here, in Cornwall, that simply cannot be met,

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that all of you are promising, fundamental shift to this county

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which has been struggling for many decade, are you raising peck egg pen

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tastings? I think I am probably dampening them, I am saying I don't

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feel there is a commitment from the Conservative Government, previously

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to give the money. I am with Candy on that, I think tra Theresa May is

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playing megaphone diplomacy from 10 Downing Street, she is ruining our

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chances of coming out from Europe in a way that we will end up with a

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decent deal and it is going to seriously harm the Cornish economy.

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We have strong voices here that is getting records levels of investment

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into Cornwall. If we are reelected we will build a positive strong

:44:02.:44:05.

relationship. We will be let down. If we have six Tory MPs it will be a

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disaster. All three of you, thank you, I will leave do you talk about

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it among yourself, you get a taste of how passionate Cornish politics

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can get. Lots of people have been raising the fact that the Cornish

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get a disproportionate amount of money from the European Union.

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Cornwall makes up 1% of the UK population and gets 5% of the EU

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investment into the UK. But, as we know it is supported Brexit. But

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lots of people, you can find, will say don't worry, this can work all

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the same. Here is one venture capitalist I spoke to earlier who

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said there is a different way. What we would like to see, most

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definitely, is a move away from a European granted economy, one that

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is full of advisory scheme, and things like that and much more

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private sector led economy. That is what we will be looking for. Private

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sector can't replace the level of financial support that has come from

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Europe, though, can it? That is a very good question. I would argue

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and I have been vocal on this, much of the spending from European has

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been ineffectual, so we would be be great fans of the infrastructure

:45:14.:45:18.

spending, broadband and the roads and the communications, but we have

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pushed for a long time and this is beginning to happening for the

:45:22.:45:25.

capital to be spent in a much more productive way, right now, and I can

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give you the stats but the last, the last tranche of money that came out,

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the majority has gone to Cornwall Council or public sector, 85 million

:45:37.:45:41.

has gone on to free advisory programmes in the County I would

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question how effective these are going to be. Well, next, it is dark

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I can see the moon up here, the sun has left us here on the south coast

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of Cornwall, let us talk about young voter, because they could be crucial

:45:56.:45:59.

to the outcome of next week's UK election, here is an interesting

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tweet we saw from the independent saying young voter have registered

:46:05.:46:10.

to vote in force. Theresa May has made a dire mistake underestimating

:46:11.:46:14.

them. Certainly how they figure in this election depends on who you

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ask. This is a YouGov poll. It shows us the voting intention of

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18-24-year-olds, versus the voting intentions of people over 65 or over

:46:25.:46:28.

and with the Conservatives in blue, and the Labour in red, you can see

:46:29.:46:31.

as well as I can, the differences there, but here is an interesting

:46:32.:46:38.

bit of analysis, this is from Matt from FT says polls that show narrow

:46:39.:46:46.

Conservative leads are those that base on the likelihood of casting a

:46:47.:46:50.

ballot. This is one lot of polling basing on how people tend to behave

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and one lot on how they say they are going to behave. You can believe who

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you like. Let us talk about young voters with, well, three young

:46:59.:47:03.

voters. Abbey, Daniel here, good to see you all. Thank you for being

:47:04.:47:09.

with us. Talk to me about Brexit, is it a big factor in your voting

:47:10.:47:14.

intentions Yes: I think it changed a lot especially like Labour, they

:47:15.:47:18.

were vote to Remain and I think obviously we are going to stay with

:47:19.:47:21.

what the majority are said now, but I think what Labour are doing, I

:47:22.:47:25.

think supporting it is what they should be doing. Dan? I would say

:47:26.:47:31.

that Brexit is a massive thing for young voter, we know we are going to

:47:32.:47:35.

leave the European Union, whether we like it or not, and it is going to

:47:36.:47:40.

have to be the deof who you want at the table. For me it is about our

:47:41.:47:44.

futures and I don't trust Jeremy Corbyn to do it. Why not Jeremy

:47:45.:47:49.

Corbyn has not shown great leadership. Theresa May has managed

:47:50.:47:56.

to get 35 opt outs, of previously new treaties including the European

:47:57.:47:59.

Arrest Warrant. So I will put my future behind her and not Jeremy

:48:00.:48:05.

Corbyn. For me h as you know, I am thinking of voting Liberal Democrat,

:48:06.:48:11.

I do feel that my party's, well, the party I I would like to vote for,

:48:12.:48:21.

does have a certain necessity to take the opposite vote, but... There

:48:22.:48:25.

is the risk you vote Liberal Democrat and you are trying to

:48:26.:48:30.

reverse the will of the people. And I think that is true, I think the

:48:31.:48:36.

thing... You are trying to reverse the role of the people? No, there is

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a danger people will think that, I think especially in Cornwall, think

:48:41.:48:45.

that given that there is a certain danger with that, especially since

:48:46.:48:50.

it is such a traditionally a liberal heartland. Abbey, talk to me about

:48:51.:48:56.

your leader, there is lots of suggestion to show his policies are

:48:57.:49:00.

more popular than he is S I think he has done a good job. I support him

:49:01.:49:06.

especially. I think he is a great leader, he is passionate. Are you

:49:07.:49:09.

and your mates going to vote? This is what the pollsters are say, if

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they do it could change the outcome. It is interesting you say that, in

:49:15.:49:19.

my house we have big Labour signs out. My bedroom is at the back. I am

:49:20.:49:24.

the only person in my choice that has bothered to register to vote. Do

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you have discussions about that? Completely and they are just so

:49:30.:49:33.

fixated, they have no economic experience and they don't have a

:49:34.:49:36.

mortgage, they is why they are voting Labour, they have no idea.

:49:37.:49:41.

All three of you thank you for finishing our coverage in Cornwall.

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