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You are very welcome to outside source and restore the programme | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
with the breaking news that within the past hour Donald Trump has | :00:07. | :00:11. | |
announced the US will withdraw from the Paris climate agreement, he said | :00:12. | :00:24. | |
America can get a better deal. The Paris climate accord is the latest | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
example of Washington entering an agreement which disadvantages the | :00:30. | :00:36. | |
United States. This is to the exclusive benefit of other countries | :00:37. | :00:39. | |
leaving American workers who I love and taxpayers to absorb the cost in | :00:40. | :00:46. | |
terms of lost jobs, lower wages, shuttered factories and vastly | :00:47. | :00:53. | |
diminished economic production. Thus as of today the United States will | :00:54. | :01:01. | |
cease all implementation of the non-binding Paris Accord, and the | :01:02. | :01:08. | |
Draconian financial and economic burdens that the agreement opposes | :01:09. | :01:16. | |
in our country. So we have of course been watching this, Barbara was | :01:17. | :01:26. | |
there, good to have you with us, I suppose that's this was the expected | :01:27. | :01:36. | |
announcement, Watts was -- what was the reaction? And it was a friendly | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
audience, people erupted into applause several times but we were | :01:42. | :01:44. | |
told he had Ben hearing advice from all sides, those who wanted to pull | :01:45. | :01:50. | |
out and those who didn't, he had been weighing up the arguments but | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
we had one line coming from this speech, the accord which was a | :01:56. | :02:01. | |
punishment, he spoke in nationalistic terms of how it was a | :02:02. | :02:06. | |
violation of American sovereignty. How it disadvantages America at the | :02:07. | :02:16. | |
expense of other countries. He even said the lobbyists wanted to join | :02:17. | :02:19. | |
this because they knew that they would gain whilst the US would be | :02:20. | :02:29. | |
weakened economically. He used very strong language I thought. He said | :02:30. | :02:32. | |
he would like to get back into the Accord if he can negotiate better | :02:33. | :02:39. | |
terms or negotiate a better one altogether, that is something the | :02:40. | :02:42. | |
members of the accord would have to agree to yell it seems unlikely | :02:43. | :02:45. | |
given the way they have been rallying around it in the last | :02:46. | :02:51. | |
couple of weeks. Almost a stump speech Barbara about him being | :02:52. | :02:54. | |
elected by people in Pittsburgh and Paris but what about this, if the US | :02:55. | :03:01. | |
leaves, the diplomatic fallout, most of the countries will De Beer | :03:02. | :03:12. | |
pushback on a wider level? They will continue to try to convince the US | :03:13. | :03:18. | |
otherwise and we have seen today and will see it tomorrow as well. The | :03:19. | :03:26. | |
Chinese PM will attend a meeting at the EU in which there will be a | :03:27. | :03:29. | |
joint statement committing themselves to the document and | :03:30. | :03:32. | |
putting together an alliance in making sure that it gets implemented | :03:33. | :03:39. | |
in clean energy projects so they have sent statement saying there | :03:40. | :03:44. | |
were continued US doesn't. If the US doesn't dissolve the nutters in the | :03:45. | :03:47. | |
case you do have the United States which is the largest economy in the | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
world, the second largest emitter of greenhouse gases not being part of | :03:52. | :03:54. | |
this agreement means it will weaken the agreement sure. Having said that | :03:55. | :03:59. | |
there is opposition forming already in the United States at the level of | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
cities and in the level of the states. They have also signalled | :04:04. | :04:14. | |
that they will do that. Stay with us because I want to bring a quote that | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
is coming from the former president, the predecessor who put it in place, | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
Barack Obama, he says I believe the United States should be at the front | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
of the pack. But also he says... He is confident the states it | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
businesses will step up and do even more to lead the way. Also... | :04:34. | :04:46. | |
Interesting, that statement was almost coming out as Donald Trump | :04:47. | :04:50. | |
the Speaker but I suppose the thing is, if it were to be picked, it'll | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
take years as we were from Jean-Claude Junker, 2020 would be | :04:56. | :05:03. | |
the earliest time which would be another election year? Yes it is a | :05:04. | :05:09. | |
long process to withdraw and Mr Chan said that from the beginning, from | :05:10. | :05:16. | |
this moment the United States would not sign underwritten in particular | :05:17. | :05:19. | |
who said that they would stop any contributions to files that have an | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
agreed colour green funds to help developing countries. He betrayed US | :05:24. | :05:33. | |
world in conspiratorially turned saying they were out for Americans | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
and they shouldn't suffer for the people not paying as much. It takes | :05:38. | :05:46. | |
a period of years before it is formalised than another year before | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
it is... There might be another president in the White House who | :05:52. | :05:54. | |
might reverse course again and I think those who are taking active | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
position saying we'll continue with the climate policies, they are | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
hoping to complete the momentum going up until that point spurt the | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
audience the speech was aimed at which was Mr Trump's constituency, | :06:09. | :06:14. | |
the blue-collar working class who believes this climate accord is | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
killing jobs, they will very much applaud this move and the audiences | :06:19. | :06:24. | |
here are Republicans who do feel like it puts America as an economic | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
disadvantage and he will not get any pushback from that quarter. I was | :06:30. | :06:34. | |
wondering the clapping and applause, he was it may be doing that the TV | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
explained it was a friendly audience. Donald Trump has a | :06:39. | :06:44. | |
decision to abandon the Paris Accord, shocked and angered many | :06:45. | :06:51. | |
world leaders, this was Ali hinted, ... The Chinese premier confirming | :06:52. | :06:57. | |
his country will stick with the deal. TRANSLATION: China will | :06:58. | :07:04. | |
continue to implement promises made to move towards the 2030 goal | :07:05. | :07:11. | |
step-by-step, steadfastly. But of course we also hope to do this in | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
with others. That is one voice coming in and this week Angela | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
Merkel said Germany will have to look after itself and it cannot rely | :07:22. | :07:26. | |
on the United States and the UK because of Mr Trump and Brexit. I | :07:27. | :07:36. | |
also want to bring up a tweet. Donald Tusk has written, please | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
don't change and then in brackets, the political climate for the worst. | :07:41. | :07:49. | |
The United States has voiced its concerns. It's important other | :07:50. | :07:56. | |
governments stay the course, this is essential for our collective future | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
and it's important that American society is like all other societies | :08:00. | :08:05. | |
and the business communities that mobilise as a central piece indeed | :08:06. | :08:14. | |
the future... Stephen Clegg Francis has hinted at his desire when it | :08:15. | :08:21. | |
comes to the agreement. He handed Mr Trump a signed copy of his work | :08:22. | :08:25. | |
chronicling the need to fight climate change during the | :08:26. | :08:28. | |
President's visit to the Vatican. Mr Trump says he would read them. So | :08:29. | :08:37. | |
whether he did or not we can't know. The president of the European | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
Commission has said that, take a listen to this. The Americans cannot | :08:44. | :08:51. | |
sleep the climate protection agreement, Mr Trump believes that | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
because he doesn't get close enough to the DOS is to fully understand | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
them. It would take three years after the agreement to leave the | :09:00. | :09:05. | |
agreement so this notion that I am Trump, I am America and America will | :09:06. | :09:15. | |
get out of it won't happen. The battle and the timing of what could | :09:16. | :09:18. | |
or could not happen, let's speak with our European editor in Brussels | :09:19. | :09:27. | |
now, Festival I know we were bringing some voices before the | :09:28. | :09:30. | |
announcement was made and he has gone ahead and pulled out of the | :09:31. | :09:35. | |
Paris Accord so what is this move European leaders? We have heard | :09:36. | :09:43. | |
immediately from the European Commissioner for energy and climate | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
and he has said that the E deeply regretted an ally as he said, | :09:49. | :09:56. | |
turning his back, the European leaders sat with President Trump | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
last week air in Brussels and European leaders met with him at the | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
G7 in Italy and they urged him not to leave the Paris Accord. It's | :10:06. | :10:12. | |
makes good sense for the United States to invest in renewable | :10:13. | :10:21. | |
energy, you can make America a great and they were hoping he would stay | :10:22. | :10:26. | |
in the Paris Accord, but of course he hasn't. Europe will regret that | :10:27. | :10:33. | |
that there will be a tensing of relations between these two allies, | :10:34. | :10:37. | |
the European Union and the United States. You're pointing at a tweet | :10:38. | :10:44. | |
earlier on from the European Council Presidents Donald Tusk uses police | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
make the climate any worse. And those meetings, as we heard | :10:50. | :10:56. | |
President Trump speaking this afternoon, he made a jive to limit | :10:57. | :11:03. | |
jive at European partners when saying the powers who are asking him | :11:04. | :11:11. | |
to stay, were the ones who weren't pulling their weight in terms of | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
trade and military spending and were being unfair to its United States. | :11:15. | :11:18. | |
The European union will feel that and leaders meet in Brussels and | :11:19. | :11:25. | |
will issue a joint statement saying they will continue with the Accord | :11:26. | :11:32. | |
and will continue to fight to stop global warming. We should not rush | :11:33. | :11:39. | |
just to say there is a break between the US and the EU because there are | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
still a lot more in common that the EU has in common with China. This is | :11:44. | :11:49. | |
coming in such an interesting time, Britain and the E, can they work | :11:50. | :11:59. | |
together post Brexit in the same way, can China may be become the | :12:00. | :12:11. | |
leaders now? It's ironic if you see China accepted the court at the | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
time, President Obama was a real leading figure, they really helped | :12:16. | :12:23. | |
to get the US on board, the US is the second biggest carbon emitter in | :12:24. | :12:28. | |
the world, China is number one so the fact those two power signed up | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
to the Accord was a big coup at the time. They are happy when they can | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
agree on something at the moment they can agree on climate change, | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
the leadership in China knows it is in its interest, the people are | :12:43. | :12:46. | |
getting angry and it has seen the business advantages investing in | :12:47. | :12:51. | |
renewable energy. So with the European Union they will fight on | :12:52. | :12:56. | |
climate change and they will fight for free trade as well, both points | :12:57. | :13:02. | |
in which there are now points of tension between the European Union | :13:03. | :13:05. | |
and the United States but again as I say, we really should not see all of | :13:06. | :13:10. | |
these in black and white terms, this does not mean the relationship | :13:11. | :13:12. | |
between the European Union and the United States is broken and then | :13:13. | :13:16. | |
have China as a best buddy, these are all shades of grey rather than | :13:17. | :13:23. | |
black and white. Thank you. Stay with us, an outside source still to | :13:24. | :13:29. | |
come. We will speak to the Seychelles ambassador on the | :13:30. | :13:32. | |
decision of Donald Trump to pull the US out of the Paris climate accord. | :13:33. | :14:49. | |
This is outside source live. Our top story. Donald Trump has announced | :14:50. | :14:56. | |
the United States will pull out of the Paris climate agreements, he | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
says it is the latest example of Washington tenting agreement that | :15:02. | :15:04. | |
benefited others and he would be re-entering the Accord on terms | :15:05. | :15:08. | |
fairer to the United States. Let's look at the stories in the language | :15:09. | :15:14. | |
services are looking at. The gunman have stormed a hotel in Manila and | :15:15. | :15:20. | |
witnesses have said the gunmen have been wearing masks and shooting at | :15:21. | :15:27. | |
guests close to Manila airport. The army said police were controlled, | :15:28. | :15:34. | |
the EIS said their militants caused the attack was so far no casualty | :15:35. | :15:41. | |
numbers -- Isis. Pakistan has denied allegations that it was involved in | :15:42. | :15:47. | |
the car bomb in Kaboul is baseless. The explosion killed around 90 | :15:48. | :15:48. | |
people and injured 350 others. Let's return to the story and get | :15:49. | :16:01. | |
more reaction now, further afield and joining me from New York is the | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
Seychelles ambassador to the United Nations, thank you very much for | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
coming on ambassador, do you want to describe your reaction to this and | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
putting it into the context of the Seychelles? Thank you for having me. | :16:15. | :16:20. | |
As hopefully everybody knows by now, small islands, the small island | :16:21. | :16:25. | |
developing states like ours are the least responsible for climate change | :16:26. | :16:28. | |
but we are the ones who suffer the most from it. Some of our small | :16:29. | :16:33. | |
islands in the Pacific and Indian Ocean could actually disappear off | :16:34. | :16:37. | |
the face of the earth. We are very dismayed. We would have liked the US | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
to stay in the Paris Agreement, we are dismayed but from our | :16:43. | :16:45. | |
perspective, especially from the involvement in the climate | :16:46. | :16:50. | |
negotiations it is not as catastrophic as other people seem to | :16:51. | :16:54. | |
be thinking it to because the world has been anticipating this. Whilst | :16:55. | :17:05. | |
we have all wanted the US to stay in the Paris Agreement, we have been | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
anticipating this and we have seen moves now for climate leadership to | :17:09. | :17:16. | |
move from China and the US to what looks like a coalition between the | :17:17. | :17:23. | |
European Union and Asia. For example Chancellor Merkel this week has | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
hosted the Prime Minister of India and is now hosting the Prime | :17:29. | :17:31. | |
Minister of China and China as we know is currently the biggest | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
emitter. There will be a statement tomorrow but ambassador put it in | :17:37. | :17:42. | |
very stark words for our viewers, if nothing more is done on climate | :17:43. | :17:45. | |
change, what would happen to your country? Well, those small islands | :17:46. | :17:54. | |
that do not disappear physically, that is they slipped underwater, | :17:55. | :17:58. | |
will become economically unviable and will become failed states | :17:59. | :18:01. | |
because even the islands which will stay above water, the economy is | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
based mainly on tourism, marine -based tourism and fisheries and we | :18:07. | :18:10. | |
have been learning from scientists what climate change and global | :18:11. | :18:13. | |
warming will do to the oceans, it would story fisheries and they will | :18:14. | :18:21. | |
move to cold waters. It will erode ages, we are seeing that in the | :18:22. | :18:25. | |
Seychelles and our number one industry is tourism. The coral | :18:26. | :18:29. | |
reefs, all of this is severely affected. Which means all of us who | :18:30. | :18:34. | |
are remaining in the Paris Agreement and that of course is 194 out of 195 | :18:35. | :18:41. | |
there have to step up our game and see amongst ourselves how can we | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
make up for the gap, at least in the short term because according to the | :18:46. | :18:49. | |
latest science, the US's absence will not have an effect in the short | :18:50. | :18:54. | |
term if China and India continue to surpass their pledges which latest | :18:55. | :19:02. | |
indications do show. Now it might be that he renegotiate, this is what is | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
asking for and that he goes ahead with a better deal, do you hold out | :19:08. | :19:13. | |
much hope for that happening? Well amongst us there is still a jury | :19:14. | :19:20. | |
out. We are not sure what he means by renegotiating. We're not sure | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
what he will ask for and we're not sure, depending on what he asks for | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
what effect might have on other countries in the Paris Agreement. | :19:30. | :19:34. | |
One of the fears has been that if the US leaves, will others leave but | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
we do not see indications of that yet. The positive spirit that came | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
out of Paris seems to be holding and in fact it might have had a counter | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
effect in the US withdrawal in that it's made us in the Paris Agreement | :19:48. | :19:51. | |
more determined to make this work but should they stay take four years | :19:52. | :19:56. | |
for them to withdraw and then they start making demands others cannot | :19:57. | :20:03. | |
abide by. I understand ambassador. Thank you. Sticklers for Ross Atkins | :20:04. | :20:09. | |
from Cornwall. Yesterday we were talking about | :20:10. | :20:23. | |
clusters of thunderstorms on the coast of Mexico developing into | :20:24. | :20:26. | |
something sinister, that has happened and the swell of cloud, a | :20:27. | :20:29. | |
tropical depression is a weakened foam of a hurricane. The rain and | :20:30. | :20:35. | |
wind not as intense but the rain will be heavy enough and the wind is | :20:36. | :20:38. | |
strong enough to cause problems in eastern Mexico. Especially in some | :20:39. | :20:44. | |
of these coastal districts, all of the moisture feeding in and we could | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
see lots of heavy rain, flash flooding and mudslides. Warm air is | :20:49. | :20:51. | |
pumping into southern parts of the US feeding the storm clouds from | :20:52. | :20:54. | |
Texas all the way through to northern Florida or the way through | :20:55. | :20:58. | |
Friday and Saturday and we have seen storms through to the north and in | :20:59. | :21:01. | |
the past 24 hours this is the scene in Toronto through Wednesday night. | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
Spectacular thunderstorm here and those are now easing away. There are | :21:06. | :21:13. | |
storm clout easing winners in Bangladesh, we saw a tropical | :21:14. | :21:16. | |
cyclone hit at the start of the week and still some big storm clouds | :21:17. | :21:21. | |
around, these are being fed by the southerly winds but it is a time of | :21:22. | :21:24. | |
year when we see the south-west monsoon bringing welcoming rains too | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
many part of the country. It's vital for crop growth and the heaviest of | :21:29. | :21:32. | |
the rains tend to be towards the south-west that we will see storm is | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
getting postman to Mumbai at times, not near Delhi, the pre-monsoon heat | :21:37. | :21:43. | |
is building. Into the 40s by Sunday afternoon. In contrast to these | :21:44. | :21:47. | |
scenes in Bolivia, they are experiencing the coldest weather in | :21:48. | :21:52. | |
about half a century. Temperatures all year long around 17-18, not much | :21:53. | :21:57. | |
variation, in the next few days the night-time temperatures have been | :21:58. | :22:01. | |
creeping up after frost. Yesterday you would have seen these pictures | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
from Germany on Tuesday, severe standard storms rattling across | :22:07. | :22:08. | |
Berlin and we have seen more and more to come. The storms across | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
alpine regions take on the Thursday morning and went to Friday there | :22:14. | :22:17. | |
will be back again. Some of these would be torrential in places and we | :22:18. | :22:20. | |
will see a few more across the Balkans over the next few days. It | :22:21. | :22:23. | |
is being caused by the build-up of heat over the past few days, | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
temperatures are widely high 20s or 30s across central and western new | :22:28. | :22:31. | |
Europe, much cooler to the north-west. North-east even. As we | :22:32. | :22:35. | |
go into Saturday the temperature drops and to get into fresh air | :22:36. | :22:45. | |
units having to an active weather system coming through. Northern | :22:46. | :22:48. | |
parts of Spain, France and into Germany and in the alpine regions, | :22:49. | :22:50. | |
these areas as we go through Friday and Saturday, we could see some | :22:51. | :22:53. | |
physically nasty storms, with it we will see Flash running and in terms | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
of 50 millimetres of rain in terms of a day, large hail and damaging | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
winds. In the UK the forecast for the week ahead is coming up the next | :23:03. | :23:04. | |
30 minutes. Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, | :23:05. | :24:15. | |
this is Outside Source. With just seven days to go | :24:16. | :24:17. | |
until the UK general election, we're broadcasting live | :24:18. | :24:20. | |
from Cornwall. We must turn to Washington first, | :24:21. | :24:26. | |
President Trump has confirmed that the US will be withdrawing from the | :24:27. | :24:30. | |
Paris Agreement, on combatting climate change. | :24:31. | :24:37. | |
As of today, the United States will cease all implement they of the | :24:38. | :24:44. | |
non-binding Paris accord, and the Draconian financial and economic | :24:45. | :24:47. | |
burden, the agreement imposes on our country. | :24:48. | :24:56. | |
Brexit remains the central issue for Theresa May. | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
I am confident that we can fulfill the promise of Brexit | :25:01. | :25:03. | |
together and build a Britain that is stronger, fairer and even | :25:04. | :25:05. | |
Jeremy Corbyn is a few hundred miles east of here in Essex, | :25:06. | :25:13. | |
where he has warned that Theresa May's approach to Brexit | :25:14. | :25:16. | |
Theresa May says no deal is better than a bad deal. | :25:17. | :25:19. | |
Let's be clear - no deal is in fact a bad deal. | :25:20. | :25:22. | |
Across this half hour if you have questions about the general election | :25:23. | :25:33. | |
and Brexit and how the two things fit together we will speak to some | :25:34. | :25:38. | |
of the biggest hitters in Cornish politics, send your points our way. | :25:39. | :25:43. | |
The same contact details apply. BBC OS is the hashtag. | :25:44. | :26:03. | |
To work Outside Source. Welcome to Cornwall. Around this | :26:04. | :26:11. | |
time, next week, the polls will be almost closed, in the UK general | :26:12. | :26:14. | |
election an of course we don't know what the outcome will be but we can | :26:15. | :26:19. | |
be certain which ever Government emerges it its primary task will be | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
negotiating Brexit. We will get into that in a moment. | :26:23. | :26:27. | |
Let me tell you more about where I am. | :26:28. | :26:38. | |
The County benefits from the tourism industry. It was teeming with | :26:39. | :26:44. | |
tourists earlierment while the industry is successful here, | :26:45. | :26:47. | |
Cornwall is one of the poorest areas not just in the UK but in western | :26:48. | :26:54. | |
Europe, it also supported Brexit, and that is posed a conundrum for | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
the politicians down here, because as you will know politicians from | :26:59. | :27:03. | |
across the political spectrum campaigned for remain and campaigned | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
to leave and we are here to understand how Brexit is factoring | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
into the calculations being made by Cornish boaters because let us make | :27:13. | :27:15. | |
no bones about it this election is happening because of Brexit. Theresa | :27:16. | :27:19. | |
May our Prime Minister says she wants a stronger hand when entering | :27:20. | :27:23. | |
the Brexit negotiations and when you look at the poll, when she called | :27:24. | :27:27. | |
the election, lots of people could understand why she went for it. She | :27:28. | :27:31. | |
had leads of up to 20%, but the opposition leader, Jeremy Corbyn, | :27:32. | :27:35. | |
has had by all accounts a good campaign and if you look at the | :27:36. | :27:40. | |
BBC's latest poll of polls, and the Tories are in blue, the Labour Party | :27:41. | :27:45. | |
in red, you will see those polls are starting to narrow. | :27:46. | :27:50. | |
Now, last night, the BBC hosted a leaders debate, there were seven | :27:51. | :27:52. | |
people taking part. Jeremy Corbyn was one of them. Theresa May wasn't. | :27:53. | :27:57. | |
Instead, is she asked one of her ministers Amber Rudd to attend, this | :27:58. | :28:03. | |
is how the debate went. There is no extra payment you don't want to add | :28:04. | :28:06. | |
to, no tax you don't want to rise, but the fact is we have to | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
concentrate our resource on the people who need it most, and we have | :28:11. | :28:14. | |
to stop thinking as you do, that there is a magic money tree. I would | :28:15. | :28:19. | |
say this since am before rubbed seems so confident this is a country | :28:20. | :28:22. | |
at ease with itself, have you been to a food bank, have you seen people | :28:23. | :28:25. | |
sleeping round the stations? Have you seen... | :28:26. | :28:29. | |
APPLAUSE Of course... Have you seen the | :28:30. | :28:34. | |
level, have you seen the level of poverty that that exists because of | :28:35. | :28:39. | |
your Government, conscious decisions on benefits. Have been to food | :28:40. | :28:43. | |
banks. For amber to say this is is a Government that cares for the | :28:44. | :28:47. | |
vulnerable is insulting to the kind of people I see in my constituency | :28:48. | :28:53. | |
southernry. The fact is we need to remain in the single market or we | :28:54. | :28:56. | |
will not be able to afford the National Health Service, social care | :28:57. | :28:59. | |
or any of the support we are talking about. If Jeremy cared about having | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
enough money to spend on those who need it the most, to raise living | :29:04. | :29:09. | |
standards he would not have trooped through the lobbies with the | :29:10. | :29:11. | |
Conservatives and Ukip to make Britain poorer. | :29:12. | :29:19. | |
Well we have loss Ros for a couple of my opinion, we are going to try | :29:20. | :29:23. | |
to reconnect the line to Cornwall. We did ask Tom Bateman to give us an | :29:24. | :29:25. | |
update. It has been a day today where the | :29:26. | :29:38. | |
issue of Brexit has become front and centre once again of this election | :29:39. | :29:41. | |
campaign here in the UK, and much of it really has been about tone, we | :29:42. | :29:46. | |
had the Prime Minister Theresa May giving a big speech on all this, a | :29:47. | :29:50. | |
set piece speech, in which she tried to suggest that there was a real | :29:51. | :29:54. | |
sense of optimism in her view about what Britain can achieve through | :29:55. | :30:02. | |
that Brexit process. So, we apologise for losing the pictures on | :30:03. | :30:07. | |
that but what about this question about why Cornwall, why Ros is | :30:08. | :30:09. | |
there. This is how they voted in 2010 - | :30:10. | :30:11. | |
three seats to the Conservative Party and three to the Liberal | :30:12. | :30:14. | |
Democrats. Those are the two parties | :30:15. | :30:16. | |
that formed a coalition Here's the 2015 result - | :30:17. | :30:18. | |
all Conservative. And in the EU referendum last year - | :30:19. | :30:25. | |
56% voted to leave, and 43 to stay. But there are some serious economic | :30:26. | :30:31. | |
and the social issues in the county. To find out what voters | :30:32. | :30:37. | |
here cared about the most, Ros went along to BBC Radio | :30:38. | :30:41. | |
Cornwall's phone-in programme. So welcome to BBC Radio Cornwall. | :30:42. | :30:55. | |
This is lawyer press Reed I am joined by Ross Atkins to help you | :30:56. | :31:00. | |
out. I am hoping to understand the reasons people voted for or against | :31:01. | :31:06. | |
Brexit, now in form how they are going to vote in the general | :31:07. | :31:09. | |
election. I have no faith in the Labour Party. I really don't. And | :31:10. | :31:15. | |
because they undermine my vote in Brexit, because they make me feel | :31:16. | :31:21. | |
like what I have to say and why I voted the way I voted, I obviously | :31:22. | :31:26. | |
had lost my mind. Gill. Good afternoon. For many years I was a | :31:27. | :31:32. | |
member of Ukip. I really feel Ukip have done their job now and Nigel | :31:33. | :31:37. | |
Farage has resigned. Sue is in Liskeard, afternoon to you. How are | :31:38. | :31:44. | |
you? You are talking to Ros. This will be the first time in over 40 | :31:45. | :31:48. | |
years I voted Conservative. I think Mrs May is the one who is going to | :31:49. | :31:56. | |
do it for us. Lorraine. What they have done to our fishermen is | :31:57. | :32:00. | |
disgraceful. We got no quota for certain fish and we are looking at | :32:01. | :32:05. | |
Spanish vessels fishing for our fish. I have been a Tory supporter | :32:06. | :32:10. | |
all my life, and now I have turned completely against them. I don't | :32:11. | :32:14. | |
trust them at all. I think we were all misled, both sides, we all | :32:15. | :32:18. | |
remember the bus with the millions of pounds that was going to go to | :32:19. | :32:22. | |
the NHS. Where are those millions? Not there are they. I will vote for | :32:23. | :32:27. | |
Theresa May and the Conservatives, because whenever this country has | :32:28. | :32:30. | |
had its back against the wall, whether it was the last war, it has | :32:31. | :32:35. | |
been a Conservative, last time it was Churchill. Thank you very much | :32:36. | :32:40. | |
for all our listener, we only scratched the surface. Shall we do | :32:41. | :32:48. | |
it again? We will do it again. Lawrence Reed, BBC Cornwall. | :32:49. | :32:56. | |
That was Ros and one of the local BBC station in Cornwall. | :32:57. | :33:01. | |
Fishery's a big part of the Cornish economy, | :33:02. | :33:03. | |
and it's fair to say the industry got behind Brexit strongly. | :33:04. | :33:05. | |
But it's just one of the many British industries the Government | :33:06. | :33:08. | |
is going to have to look out for in the negotiations with Europe. | :33:09. | :33:12. | |
% of the population took 5% of the UK investment, and from 2000, 2014, | :33:13. | :33:23. | |
?888 million from the EU went to Cornwall and also the Isles of | :33:24. | :33:29. | |
Scilly which are nearby. Then, from 2014, to 2020, it was 480 million | :33:30. | :33:36. | |
but when it came to getting Government funding they were given | :33:37. | :33:40. | |
just 18 million in local economy investment funding. Ros has been | :33:41. | :33:46. | |
talking to Ruth Huxley, a local business leader about what leaving | :33:47. | :33:47. | |
the EU could mean for Cornwall. For the business of the food and | :33:48. | :33:57. | |
drink sector, the concern with manufacturing is Cornwall 's largest | :33:58. | :34:01. | |
manufacturing industry food and drink is the uncertainty around the | :34:02. | :34:06. | |
economy and the economic impact of things like migrant Labour and | :34:07. | :34:10. | |
exchange rates. Brexit appears to be here to stay, it is Brexit having | :34:11. | :34:13. | |
more of an impact on the businesses I work with, than the outcome of | :34:14. | :34:16. | |
this election. What about the Cornish brand? When I compare when I | :34:17. | :34:21. | |
was growing up here, not that many things put Cornwall or Cornish in | :34:22. | :34:27. | |
their name, now there is a pro liveration. Does Brexit offer a | :34:28. | :34:34. | |
challenge to that? Challenge or opportunity, opportunity perhaps if | :34:35. | :34:37. | |
it affects the exchange rates to the extent more people come to Cornwall | :34:38. | :34:41. | |
and are able to enjoy the products, more challenges to people exporting, | :34:42. | :34:47. | |
imports ingredients, who knows. Tell me quickly about the pasty, is it | :34:48. | :34:52. | |
OK, is it protected? You are happy with its long-term future? The pasty | :34:53. | :34:56. | |
is protected by European protective food name. It is a European scheme | :34:57. | :35:02. | |
that is recognised widely and by third country, we are reassured that | :35:03. | :35:05. | |
will continue, but it is not guaranteed yet so the Cornish pasty | :35:06. | :35:09. | |
association I work with closely is very keen to move things along, it | :35:10. | :35:15. | |
is working, business as usual as far as they are concerned, but, that, | :35:16. | :35:19. | |
those assurances and those defintives can't come soon enough. | :35:20. | :35:24. | |
Speaking of pasty, let me grab this I spotted earlier, you see this, | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
this is a pasty flavoured bag of crisps. I mean, I am proud and | :35:29. | :35:34. | |
Cornish but this feels possibly a step too far. I don't think so at | :35:35. | :35:39. | |
all. Many of our customers would disagree, it is by far our best | :35:40. | :35:43. | |
selling flavour of crisps. Have you tried them? Yes They are made with | :35:44. | :35:47. | |
real beef and everything you would expect to be in a pasty. I didn't | :35:48. | :35:53. | |
get a chance to try those crisps but if any of you watching in Cornwall | :35:54. | :35:57. | |
let me know, I was not convinced about them but there we go. In a | :35:58. | :36:02. | |
minute we will speak to three of the biggest names in Cornish politics | :36:03. | :36:05. | |
about Brexit and how it fits into whether their parties are picking up | :36:06. | :36:09. | |
support or not. Send us some questions for those three guests who | :36:10. | :36:13. | |
will speak to in a moment on Outside Source. | :36:14. | :36:25. | |
Now as you may well no fisheries is a big part of the Cornish economy. | :36:26. | :36:29. | |
And it is fair to say the fisheries industry here in Cornwall was very | :36:30. | :36:34. | |
much for Brexit, you don't have to look hard for unhappy fishermen when | :36:35. | :36:37. | |
it comes to the EUment fisheries is one issue of many that will have to | :36:38. | :36:45. | |
fit into new deals being cut between the yuck and ewe. I have been -- UK | :36:46. | :36:52. | |
and EU. I have been talking to George Eustace, he is a minister | :36:53. | :36:54. | |
with responsibility for fisheries are. There are two separate elements | :36:55. | :36:58. | |
to the negotiation, one is how we manage fisheries, and of course, in | :36:59. | :37:02. | |
future there still annual negotiations round how we share | :37:03. | :37:06. | |
quotas, we are not going to pull up the drawbridge and stop talking to | :37:07. | :37:10. | |
other countries, there won't be an ex clue zone, there will be annual | :37:11. | :37:14. | |
negotiations but when it comes to trade, there is a separate | :37:15. | :37:18. | |
negotiation and we are be buying from Europe, things like cars and | :37:19. | :37:21. | |
maybe champagne from France, and fruit and veg, they want to sell us | :37:22. | :37:26. | |
those products and in return we will expect them to buy our fishery | :37:27. | :37:33. | |
products tariff free. Quotas are about conserving fish, aren't they, | :37:34. | :37:36. | |
so this expectation I have heard from some Cornish people once we are | :37:37. | :37:39. | |
out we will be able to go and get all the fish we can and make as much | :37:40. | :37:44. | |
money, may not materialise? No, look, I was very clear during the | :37:45. | :37:47. | |
referendum campaign, and I campaigned to leave but very clear | :37:48. | :37:51. | |
we are still going to fish sustainably in line with science and | :37:52. | :37:55. | |
there will be a quota system, you have to fish within sustainable | :37:56. | :37:59. | |
limits if you want to protect stock, so those things won't change, what | :38:00. | :38:04. | |
will change is we will be able to negotiate a fairer share of quotas, | :38:05. | :38:09. | |
here in the West Country, France has round five times as much haddock | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
quota and five times as much cod quota as Cornish firer men, that is | :38:14. | :38:17. | |
not fair and doesn't reflect where the stock reseeds. One last | :38:18. | :38:21. | |
question, you have been a strong proponent of Brexit for a long time. | :38:22. | :38:27. | |
I heard caller after caller giving me huge expectation of what Brexit | :38:28. | :38:31. | |
is going to deliver, not just to do with fisheries but Britain's | :38:32. | :38:33. | |
standing in the world, to do with the Cornish economy, to do with the | :38:34. | :38:38. | |
NHS, the list went on and on, are you worried you have raised | :38:39. | :38:43. | |
expectations to unrealistic levels? No, not all all. I have been a | :38:44. | :38:48. | |
minister in Defra to four years and I have never known there be such a | :38:49. | :38:52. | |
buzz and excitement about the potential. | :38:53. | :39:03. | |
Welcome back to Outside Source. We are live on the south coast of | :39:04. | :39:06. | |
Cornwall in the far south-west of England, talking about Brexit and | :39:07. | :39:10. | |
how it plays into the UK election which is one week away. Let me | :39:11. | :39:17. | |
introduce you to three big names of Cornish politics, Sarah Newton, | :39:18. | :39:19. | |
Andrew George was an MP for 18 years and he is trying to win his seat | :39:20. | :39:25. | |
back and you were the last Labour MP in Cornwall. . We are going to | :39:26. | :39:30. | |
change that. Do you think so I think we do. Really? The local election | :39:31. | :39:34. | |
suggested that there are few issues for the Labour Party. Yes, we really | :39:35. | :39:40. | |
increased or majority, where we were standing, and there are parts of | :39:41. | :39:45. | |
Cornwall that have a long tradition of Labour representation. There were | :39:46. | :39:48. | |
boundary changes and that hurt the Labour Party and people now are | :39:49. | :39:51. | |
coming back, really big, very excited about next Thursday. We will | :39:52. | :39:57. | |
see how it goes. Undoubtedly this is a complicated election because | :39:58. | :40:01. | |
Brexit didn't follow party linesful how is it playing into your effort | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
for support. Most people, even though they wanted to remain, they | :40:07. | :40:09. | |
wanted to remain in the European Union just want to get on with it. | :40:10. | :40:14. | |
They want a strong Prime Minister, a positive team, to actually get the | :40:15. | :40:18. | |
best possible deal they can, for Britain and so we are seeing on the | :40:19. | :40:22. | |
doorsteps people from all party, switching, because they just know | :40:23. | :40:25. | |
than my colleagues and I with Theresa May will be able to deliver | :40:26. | :40:30. | |
the best outcome, in Brexit for gaul. Yours is different tack | :40:31. | :40:36. | |
Andrew. Not really, I mean, the fact is that as Sarah rightly say, | :40:37. | :40:41. | |
certainly, many of those who voted Remain and I obviously campaigned to | :40:42. | :40:49. | |
remain, have now decided the majority they are now reLee veries, | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
I suppose and they accept that democracy, we must move on, we now | :40:55. | :41:00. | |
need to make sure that Brexit doesn't harm places like Cornwall. | :41:01. | :41:04. | |
Cornwall is a very high risk of being one of the big losers from | :41:05. | :41:08. | |
Brexit. What we need to do is make sure they are, local people, whether | :41:09. | :41:14. | |
they be fishermen, many of whom voted for Remain, in spite of what | :41:15. | :41:19. | |
your report says. Most didn't. A lot of the leader, those who lead the | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
industry, actually, perhaps you didn't speak to him, because at the | :41:24. | :41:27. | |
public meetings I called and the Tory MP wouldn't come to, they, they | :41:28. | :41:33. | |
were very clearly actually saying that we need to be pragmatic about | :41:34. | :41:37. | |
this issue and the last time the Conservatives were in, they said | :41:38. | :41:40. | |
that the fishing industry was expendable. Let us bring you in. | :41:41. | :41:47. | |
Cornwall is a very disparate, we are not a homogenous fishing community, | :41:48. | :41:52. | |
we have two universities, there is a different issue round Brexit. I it | :41:53. | :41:55. | |
is not just about farming and fish, we are a diverse economy and for the | :41:56. | :42:01. | |
universities, for renewable energies and new industries which have had | :42:02. | :42:06. | |
huge sums of European money which was a Labour Government success, it | :42:07. | :42:11. | |
is a tragedy now. The poorest part of the UK is going to be struggling | :42:12. | :42:16. | |
again. Can I say Cornwall has particular aspects to it, and that | :42:17. | :42:19. | |
is why I am so pleased we have managed to get a commitment in our | :42:20. | :42:24. | |
manifesto, so that all of the funding that Cornwall would have | :42:25. | :42:28. | |
got, had we remained in the European Union. Union. THEY ALL TALK AT ONCE. | :42:29. | :42:40. | |
You are talking about the regional fund. The European programme, the | :42:41. | :42:45. | |
money that would have got till 2020 is committed, a lot of it has been | :42:46. | :42:51. | |
spent. It is already going... ?2 billion. To the prosperity fund so | :42:52. | :42:59. | |
it will go forward. You might as well put that on the side of a red | :43:00. | :43:05. | |
bus. Let me ask you quickly before we wrap up here, are you worried | :43:06. | :43:09. | |
that there are expectations here, in Cornwall, that simply cannot be met, | :43:10. | :43:14. | |
that all of you are promising, fundamental shift to this county | :43:15. | :43:18. | |
which has been struggling for many decade, are you raising peck egg pen | :43:19. | :43:25. | |
tastings? I think I am probably dampening them, I am saying I don't | :43:26. | :43:31. | |
feel there is a commitment from the Conservative Government, previously | :43:32. | :43:35. | |
to give the money. I am with Candy on that, I think tra Theresa May is | :43:36. | :43:40. | |
playing megaphone diplomacy from 10 Downing Street, she is ruining our | :43:41. | :43:44. | |
chances of coming out from Europe in a way that we will end up with a | :43:45. | :43:49. | |
decent deal and it is going to seriously harm the Cornish economy. | :43:50. | :43:55. | |
We have strong voices here that is getting records levels of investment | :43:56. | :44:01. | |
into Cornwall. If we are reelected we will build a positive strong | :44:02. | :44:05. | |
relationship. We will be let down. If we have six Tory MPs it will be a | :44:06. | :44:10. | |
disaster. All three of you, thank you, I will leave do you talk about | :44:11. | :44:15. | |
it among yourself, you get a taste of how passionate Cornish politics | :44:16. | :44:18. | |
can get. Lots of people have been raising the fact that the Cornish | :44:19. | :44:21. | |
get a disproportionate amount of money from the European Union. | :44:22. | :44:25. | |
Cornwall makes up 1% of the UK population and gets 5% of the EU | :44:26. | :44:30. | |
investment into the UK. But, as we know it is supported Brexit. But | :44:31. | :44:34. | |
lots of people, you can find, will say don't worry, this can work all | :44:35. | :44:39. | |
the same. Here is one venture capitalist I spoke to earlier who | :44:40. | :44:42. | |
said there is a different way. What we would like to see, most | :44:43. | :44:49. | |
definitely, is a move away from a European granted economy, one that | :44:50. | :44:53. | |
is full of advisory scheme, and things like that and much more | :44:54. | :44:57. | |
private sector led economy. That is what we will be looking for. Private | :44:58. | :45:02. | |
sector can't replace the level of financial support that has come from | :45:03. | :45:05. | |
Europe, though, can it? That is a very good question. I would argue | :45:06. | :45:09. | |
and I have been vocal on this, much of the spending from European has | :45:10. | :45:13. | |
been ineffectual, so we would be be great fans of the infrastructure | :45:14. | :45:18. | |
spending, broadband and the roads and the communications, but we have | :45:19. | :45:21. | |
pushed for a long time and this is beginning to happening for the | :45:22. | :45:25. | |
capital to be spent in a much more productive way, right now, and I can | :45:26. | :45:30. | |
give you the stats but the last, the last tranche of money that came out, | :45:31. | :45:36. | |
the majority has gone to Cornwall Council or public sector, 85 million | :45:37. | :45:41. | |
has gone on to free advisory programmes in the County I would | :45:42. | :45:44. | |
question how effective these are going to be. Well, next, it is dark | :45:45. | :45:50. | |
I can see the moon up here, the sun has left us here on the south coast | :45:51. | :45:55. | |
of Cornwall, let us talk about young voter, because they could be crucial | :45:56. | :45:59. | |
to the outcome of next week's UK election, here is an interesting | :46:00. | :46:04. | |
tweet we saw from the independent saying young voter have registered | :46:05. | :46:10. | |
to vote in force. Theresa May has made a dire mistake underestimating | :46:11. | :46:14. | |
them. Certainly how they figure in this election depends on who you | :46:15. | :46:19. | |
ask. This is a YouGov poll. It shows us the voting intention of | :46:20. | :46:24. | |
18-24-year-olds, versus the voting intentions of people over 65 or over | :46:25. | :46:28. | |
and with the Conservatives in blue, and the Labour in red, you can see | :46:29. | :46:31. | |
as well as I can, the differences there, but here is an interesting | :46:32. | :46:38. | |
bit of analysis, this is from Matt from FT says polls that show narrow | :46:39. | :46:46. | |
Conservative leads are those that base on the likelihood of casting a | :46:47. | :46:50. | |
ballot. This is one lot of polling basing on how people tend to behave | :46:51. | :46:54. | |
and one lot on how they say they are going to behave. You can believe who | :46:55. | :46:58. | |
you like. Let us talk about young voters with, well, three young | :46:59. | :47:03. | |
voters. Abbey, Daniel here, good to see you all. Thank you for being | :47:04. | :47:09. | |
with us. Talk to me about Brexit, is it a big factor in your voting | :47:10. | :47:14. | |
intentions Yes: I think it changed a lot especially like Labour, they | :47:15. | :47:18. | |
were vote to Remain and I think obviously we are going to stay with | :47:19. | :47:21. | |
what the majority are said now, but I think what Labour are doing, I | :47:22. | :47:25. | |
think supporting it is what they should be doing. Dan? I would say | :47:26. | :47:31. | |
that Brexit is a massive thing for young voter, we know we are going to | :47:32. | :47:35. | |
leave the European Union, whether we like it or not, and it is going to | :47:36. | :47:40. | |
have to be the deof who you want at the table. For me it is about our | :47:41. | :47:44. | |
futures and I don't trust Jeremy Corbyn to do it. Why not Jeremy | :47:45. | :47:49. | |
Corbyn has not shown great leadership. Theresa May has managed | :47:50. | :47:56. | |
to get 35 opt outs, of previously new treaties including the European | :47:57. | :47:59. | |
Arrest Warrant. So I will put my future behind her and not Jeremy | :48:00. | :48:05. | |
Corbyn. For me h as you know, I am thinking of voting Liberal Democrat, | :48:06. | :48:11. | |
I do feel that my party's, well, the party I I would like to vote for, | :48:12. | :48:21. | |
does have a certain necessity to take the opposite vote, but... There | :48:22. | :48:25. | |
is the risk you vote Liberal Democrat and you are trying to | :48:26. | :48:30. | |
reverse the will of the people. And I think that is true, I think the | :48:31. | :48:36. | |
thing... You are trying to reverse the role of the people? No, there is | :48:37. | :48:40. | |
a danger people will think that, I think especially in Cornwall, think | :48:41. | :48:45. | |
that given that there is a certain danger with that, especially since | :48:46. | :48:50. | |
it is such a traditionally a liberal heartland. Abbey, talk to me about | :48:51. | :48:56. | |
your leader, there is lots of suggestion to show his policies are | :48:57. | :49:00. | |
more popular than he is S I think he has done a good job. I support him | :49:01. | :49:06. | |
especially. I think he is a great leader, he is passionate. Are you | :49:07. | :49:09. | |
and your mates going to vote? This is what the pollsters are say, if | :49:10. | :49:14. | |
they do it could change the outcome. It is interesting you say that, in | :49:15. | :49:19. | |
my house we have big Labour signs out. My bedroom is at the back. I am | :49:20. | :49:24. | |
the only person in my choice that has bothered to register to vote. Do | :49:25. | :49:29. | |
you have discussions about that? Completely and they are just so | :49:30. | :49:33. | |
fixated, they have no economic experience and they don't have a | :49:34. | :49:36. | |
mortgage, they is why they are voting Labour, they have no idea. | :49:37. | :49:41. | |
All three of you thank you for finishing our coverage in Cornwall. | :49:42. | :49:49. | |
To those of you watching, if you want to learn more about Donald | :49:50. | :49:56. | |
Trump or the election, we will head to the website. We will be back with | :49:57. | :50:01. | |
you next week next time from | :50:02. | :50:02. |