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Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source. | :00:13. | :00:17. | |
Across the hour, as the wind and rain make themselves felt, I will | :00:18. | :00:23. | |
bring you all the very latest on the investigation into the London Bridge | :00:24. | :00:27. | |
terror attack. The authorities today have named two of the three | :00:28. | :00:30. | |
attackers, one of them Khuram Butt from its London was previously known | :00:31. | :00:35. | |
to the authorities. They little earlier before the rain came in, and | :00:36. | :00:40. | |
just a few 100 metres from where I'm standing, the Mayor of London led a | :00:41. | :00:43. | |
vigil for those that lost their lives and the dozens who were | :00:44. | :00:44. | |
injured. And the mayor spoke. To the sick and evil extremists | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
who commit these hideous crimes. Inevitably, the attack is | :00:50. | :01:05. | |
influencing the UK election campaign. It is election day on | :01:06. | :01:09. | |
Thursday. We have heard from both the Prime Minister to Theresa May | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
and the opposition leader, Jeremy Corbyn. I will bring you up-to-date | :01:13. | :01:17. | |
on that, and I will be live in Washington, DC after Donald Trump | :01:18. | :01:20. | |
launched a second extraordinary attack on the Mayor of London, Sadiq | :01:21. | :01:21. | |
Khan. You join me on a damp, Loi Monday | :01:22. | :01:47. | |
night here in the centre of London. I am just on the edge of the huge | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
police cordon that has been set up around the scene of Saturday night's | :01:52. | :02:00. | |
atrocity, in which three men killed, seven people. We now 48 others were | :02:01. | :02:07. | |
injured. The authorities of the Santon have said they had identified | :02:08. | :02:11. | |
attackers but were not releasing their names, well, two names have | :02:12. | :02:15. | |
now been released, the first was a 27-year-old, called Khuram Butt. He | :02:16. | :02:20. | |
was a British citizen. You can see him on the left. He was born in | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
Pakistan, but living in Barking, is London. The second to be named is | :02:27. | :02:32. | |
the 30-year-old Rachid Redouane, who also lived in Barking, is London. We | :02:33. | :02:40. | |
are told investigators were aware of Khuram Butt but there was no | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
evidence he was planning an attack. Before this wind and rain came in so | :02:45. | :02:51. | |
fiercely, a vigil was led by the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, in a | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
park just next door to City Hall and right next door to Tower Bridge and | :02:56. | :02:59. | |
the river Thames. Here is some of what the mayor said. | :03:00. | :03:03. | |
As the Mayor of London, I want to send a clear message | :03:04. | :03:06. | |
to the sick and evil extremists who commit these hideous crimes. | :03:07. | :03:15. | |
Today, we mourn the loss of innocent lives. | :03:16. | :03:26. | |
Londoners and people from around the world. | :03:27. | :03:29. | |
We send our love to the victims's families, and to all | :03:30. | :03:32. | |
those who are injured, and we thank our courageous | :03:33. | :03:37. | |
emergency services, and the brave Londoners who risked their lives | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
Khuram Butt, one of the two attacker to have been named by the police we | :03:43. | :03:58. | |
now have been reported to the authorities over concerns he was | :03:59. | :04:03. | |
becoming radicalised. We also know he featured in a Channel 4 | :04:04. | :04:06. | |
documentary looking at people with Jay Harris the queues in London. The | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
BBC's Ed Thomas has been in east London today and has spoken to one | :04:12. | :04:15. | |
of Khuram Butt's neighbours, who says he saw the van that was true | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
than in the people on Saturday night in London Bridge, he saw the ban on | :04:21. | :04:26. | |
Friday. More details in a's latest report. | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
He was the enemy within, Khuram Butt, at 27, a father | :04:33. | :04:34. | |
of two young children, he had worked on the | :04:35. | :04:41. | |
London Underground before turning to Islamic extremism. | :04:42. | :04:43. | |
Romana was a neighbour, she now says she feels fooled. | :04:44. | :05:02. | |
He was kind, he shared the sweets with the neighbours. | :05:03. | :05:04. | |
He is not going to go there, he is going to go there. | :05:05. | :05:08. | |
Benjamin Joe would say hello to his neighbour, even | :05:09. | :05:13. | |
Was he calm when you saw him on Saturday? | :05:14. | :05:27. | |
We thought he was moving out because he was parked | :05:28. | :05:33. | |
Moving out, because Michael watched the London attacker | :05:34. | :05:41. | |
with another man in a white van, speeding at 6.30 on Saturday night. | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
Before the final. To be precise, around 6:30pm. | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
It screeched up, it was driving pretty fast. | :05:51. | :05:58. | |
Didn't brake on the bend, it just went. | :05:59. | :06:04. | |
He wasn't happy with the way women were dressed, he wanted | :06:05. | :06:07. | |
They would talk in parks, in a nearby mosque. | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
He didn't want to show his face and asked us | :06:13. | :06:14. | |
He would talk about Syria mostly, Afghanistan, they get bombed | :06:15. | :06:22. | |
and most people don't have food, they don't have homes to live. | :06:23. | :06:25. | |
He said the pair would debate Syria, Iraq and Islamic State. | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
Do you think he was trying to radicalise them? | :06:29. | :06:37. | |
Do you think he was trying to radicalise you? | :06:38. | :06:39. | |
I wouldn't want to turn out like a bad person, | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
I wouldn't want to do that kind of thing. | :06:44. | :06:46. | |
Khuram Butt, responsible for seven innocent deaths, | :06:47. | :06:47. | |
and today more raids, more searches to get to the truth | :06:48. | :06:50. | |
With me now, Dal Babu, former Chief Superintendent | :06:51. | :07:00. | |
Thank you for coming out in this Arnaud Clement weather. There has | :07:01. | :07:11. | |
been a furious political row about cuts. Do you think police cut | :07:12. | :07:19. | |
affected the Metropolitan's police ability to track this plot? The | :07:20. | :07:22. | |
challenges that police are never prepared to come out to say that | :07:23. | :07:26. | |
they need a huge amount of resources while they are serving. It always | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
reminds me of the George Orwell scenario, where the police keep | :07:32. | :07:34. | |
being asked to do more and more and they keep carrying on doing it. If | :07:35. | :07:40. | |
you have had a 50% cut in policing, 20,000 less officers since 2010, it | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
is a no-brainer, it will have an impact of what the police can do, in | :07:45. | :07:50. | |
terms of resources. Even if funding for counterterrorism specifically is | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
ring fenced? I don't think they are two entirely different things. When | :07:56. | :07:59. | |
I was a police officer, I got information to talking to people. I | :08:00. | :08:02. | |
would speak to people, find out what was happening and then come back and | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
do intelligence reports on that and there is no substitute for that. | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
People sitting in an office going on computers and trying to work out | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
what is happening on the ground. You need those people on the ground but | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
it is not just the police officers being cut. We have also had cuts in | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
the CSO numbers, community support officers and police staff are being | :08:23. | :08:25. | |
cut as well. In the case of one of the attackers who has been named, we | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
know the police were aware of him. Can you help us understand what that | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
actually means when someone like him is on a watchlist? The police will | :08:34. | :08:38. | |
have an intelligent system and they will look and grade each bit of that | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
comes in. One thing that is very crucial is that communities should | :08:44. | :08:46. | |
carry on contacting the police. We have heard Muslim embers of the | :08:47. | :08:49. | |
community in Manchester were contacting the police around the | :08:50. | :08:51. | |
individual who carried out the suicide bomber in Manchester. It is | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
very important people carry on providing that information, once | :08:56. | :08:58. | |
they get information, they will grade it. There is a problem with | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
the system of people in Manchester came forward, people in east London | :09:04. | :09:07. | |
came forward and yet tragically his attacks were carried out? There will | :09:08. | :09:10. | |
be some lessons learned in how we deal with that information but we | :09:11. | :09:13. | |
have to look of the information. I have some sympathy with the police, | :09:14. | :09:17. | |
in terms of information comes in and they have to grade it. They can't | :09:18. | :09:20. | |
have the same response to every civil person, every bit of | :09:21. | :09:25. | |
information. Some might be this guy is looking at a magazine, he has | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
downloaded something on making a terrorist bomb. We have heard this | :09:30. | :09:35. | |
phrase, a new reality, being used by Cressida Dick, the current | :09:36. | :09:38. | |
commissioner of the Metropolitan Police. Whichever government is | :09:39. | :09:41. | |
elected after Thursday, what do you think their priorities are, in terms | :09:42. | :09:46. | |
of responding to this new reality. We need to look at the Prevent | :09:47. | :09:49. | |
strategy first of the present Prime Minister has talked about reviewing | :09:50. | :09:51. | |
counterterrorism and I think that should include the Prevent strategy. | :09:52. | :09:57. | |
The Prevent strategy is one of the four strands of counterterrorism | :09:58. | :09:59. | |
strategies, which is designed to look at stopping radicalisation. The | :10:00. | :10:04. | |
Muslim community, significant members of the Muslim community, | :10:05. | :10:09. | |
have difficulties with that. It is important that that confidence and | :10:10. | :10:12. | |
the community is essential. We need to review that, and look at the good | :10:13. | :10:15. | |
things about prevent and make sure we are able to use it. It should be | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
about safeguarding, if you have someone who has gone report, has | :10:20. | :10:23. | |
mental health problems, is acting bizarrely, they should be brought | :10:24. | :10:26. | |
before the authorities and the authorities make an assessment. This | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
is someone who need support and assistance, or is this someone who | :10:30. | :10:33. | |
is dangerous and needs to be charged with an offence and put into prison. | :10:34. | :10:36. | |
I will let you step out of the wet and get yourself a bit dry. Dowell | :10:37. | :10:41. | |
Babu, former Chief Superintendent with the Metropolitan Police. I am | :10:42. | :10:47. | |
sure you aware that all seven victims of Saturday's attack had not | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
been named, but we know that a 30-year-old Canadian woman called | :10:53. | :10:54. | |
Christine Archibald was one of those who had. She had moved to Europe to | :10:55. | :10:59. | |
live with her fiance. They called the Netherlands home but had come to | :11:00. | :11:02. | |
London for the weekend, and we are told today that she died in the arms | :11:03. | :11:07. | |
of her fiance. Her family put out an extraordinary statement talking | :11:08. | :11:09. | |
about her commitment to work with the homeless. They encourage people | :11:10. | :11:13. | |
to do volunteer work and said if they go and do that, tell them | :11:14. | :11:16. | |
Christie sent you. We've also been taught by the French authorities | :11:17. | :11:20. | |
that a French national lost their life, and we also heard from the | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
sister of a man called James McMullan, who confirmed her brother | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
was also one of those who died. This was a statement that she gave | :11:30. | :11:30. | |
earlier. This morning we received news | :11:31. | :11:33. | |
from the police that my brother's bank card was found on one | :11:34. | :11:35. | |
of the bodies from Saturday night's brutal attack, | :11:36. | :11:38. | |
but they are unable to formally identify him until the coroner's | :11:39. | :11:40. | |
report comes tomorrow. identify him until the coroner's | :11:41. | :11:48. | |
report begins tomorrow. We would like to send our | :11:49. | :11:55. | |
condolences to the relatives and loved ones of all the ones who lost | :11:56. | :11:59. | |
their lives, our thoughts are with them at this time. We would like to | :12:00. | :12:02. | |
thank all the members of the services hooted their utmost to | :12:03. | :12:07. | |
serve and protect the population of London from these arranged and | :12:08. | :12:09. | |
deluded individuals. We know that seven people lost their | :12:10. | :12:18. | |
lives on Saturday, and that 48 were injured. | :12:19. | :12:23. | |
We are told 18 of those remain critically ill. Now this report from | :12:24. | :12:30. | |
Allan Little on the victims of the London Bridge attack. | :12:31. | :12:33. | |
The faces of those caught up in the attack reflect | :12:34. | :12:36. | |
the character of London - diverse, global and a magnet | :12:37. | :12:38. | |
drawing youth and energy from around the world. | :12:39. | :12:41. | |
Chrissy Archibald, who was 30 and from Canada, was walking | :12:42. | :12:45. | |
on London Bridge with her fiance Tyler Ferguson when she was struck | :12:46. | :12:49. | |
He heard tyres screeching, and he looked back and he just saw | :12:50. | :12:56. | |
the mayhem that was going on, and the van hitting people. | :12:57. | :13:01. | |
And then he ran up and tried CPR on her. | :13:02. | :13:05. | |
Her family said she would not have understood the callous cruelty | :13:06. | :13:10. | |
The French Foreign Ministry said one French citizen was murdered, | :13:11. | :13:17. | |
another seven French nationals were injured, four | :13:18. | :13:18. | |
Candice Hedge was one of four Australians injured. | :13:19. | :13:26. | |
She was stabbed in the throat and is now recovering in hospital. | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
She was hiding at the time and the guy got her, and stabbed her | :13:31. | :13:33. | |
But I eventually got onto the hospital, and they spoke | :13:34. | :13:41. | |
She is going to be OK, that's the main thing. | :13:42. | :13:49. | |
Daniel O'Neill, who's 23, suffered a seven inch | :13:50. | :13:51. | |
His life was saved by a friend, who stopped the bleeding | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
Jeff Ho, a journalist, was stabbed while trying to stop | :13:57. | :14:07. | |
I don't know whether it was stupid or noble, he said on Facebook, | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
but that wasn't going to happen on my watch. | :14:12. | :14:13. | |
Oliver Dowling from New Zealand needed four hours of surgery. | :14:14. | :14:17. | |
His French girlfriend was also injured, and is in | :14:18. | :14:19. | |
Brett Freeman, who is from East London, is a father of three | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
A friend posted this picture on social media | :14:24. | :14:26. | |
18 people remain critically ill, most of those who died | :14:27. | :14:31. | |
The list of those killed and injured reflects | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
An attack in London sends its anguish around the world. | :14:36. | :14:42. | |
Many hundreds of people were caught up in the attack on Saturday. One of | :14:43. | :14:57. | |
them was Richard Angell, who is joining me live by London Bridge. | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
Thank you for coming out, I know it is a really unpleasant evening. You | :15:02. | :15:06. | |
are back in town because you went to the jaw earlier. Yes, we went to the | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
Vigil where Sadiq Khan I think spoke for everyone in this city as the | :15:12. | :15:16. | |
Mayor of London. He spoke about our unity, our diversity, and how we | :15:17. | :15:19. | |
will not let these people change our lives. They don't speak for people | :15:20. | :15:22. | |
of his faith, they don't speak to people of any faith, and they don't | :15:23. | :15:25. | |
speak for the carriage of London that will come through this. And we | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
remember the seven people who are now not with their loved ones, | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
friends and families, and the 21 still in hospital. Tell me what | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
happened to you on Saturday. I was having a lovely Saturday night out | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
with my friends at a restaurant in Borough market. We were sitting at | :15:44. | :15:46. | |
the table near the door and it became apparent that the security to | :15:47. | :15:49. | |
the venue were saying lock the door and duck and hide. And this young | :15:50. | :15:55. | |
waiter, who is clearly overworked and underpaid, put his foot against | :15:56. | :15:58. | |
the door and his body weight on these big glass windows and he | :15:59. | :16:01. | |
protected Lascuna won us could get in. Everyone else panicked not | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
unreasonably, turned over tables, got under chairs, try to get some | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
semblance of safety. I was able to look around what was happening, | :16:11. | :16:13. | |
opposite I could see a guy throwing a table, but I found out afterwards | :16:14. | :16:17. | |
it was that heroic guy who was throwing stuff at one of the | :16:18. | :16:20. | |
assailants were stabbing a young woman. He put her life before his | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
and we thank him for that, he is one of the heroes of that story. At that | :16:25. | :16:28. | |
point did you will as that was something out of the ordinary. It | :16:29. | :16:33. | |
was clear from the beginning that it was a terrorist attack, it was no | :16:34. | :16:36. | |
drill. You didn't want to take a second chance at doing the right | :16:37. | :16:39. | |
thing the first time and people active. So how long after those | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
initial moments to jihad to stay inside the restaurant? We saw | :16:44. | :16:50. | |
someone coming out covered in blood holding their neck or upper chest | :16:51. | :16:52. | |
structuring -- staggering through. Police at the area, gunshots went | :16:53. | :17:02. | |
off and I am Thorup was just eight minutes. Relying on journalists like | :17:03. | :17:06. | |
yourself, people on Twitter, to try and patch together what was | :17:07. | :17:10. | |
happening around us. And you have been back to meet the restaurant | :17:11. | :17:14. | |
owner this evening? We have been to have a drink with him, we are | :17:15. | :17:18. | |
determined to go back and pay Abel. We haven't had a chance to do that. | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
It is still cordoned off as a crime scene. We want to tip those people, | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
putting your body behind a glass door to stop someone getting in | :17:28. | :17:31. | |
doesn't deserve a double fit, I don't what does. We met another guy | :17:32. | :17:37. | |
at the Vigil who I read about his story at the Evening Standard, he | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
couldn't get back to his flat and these two lovely women took him in, | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
and he wants me to say thank you to them and we're having a drink with | :17:45. | :17:48. | |
him as well this evening, because London is determined that these | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
people shall not, will not win, and I thought Sadiq Khan spoke for all | :17:54. | :17:57. | |
of us. If having a gin and tonic, flirting with handsome men and | :17:58. | :17:59. | |
hanging out with strong women offends these people so much, we are | :18:00. | :18:03. | |
going to do it time and time again, because that is what makes London so | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
great. Thank you to coming to see us. Richard was talking about Sadiq | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
Khan. He has been on the receiving end for a second time of a very | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
critical tweet from Donald Trump. A lot of people are slightly amused | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
about why Donald Trump is picking a fight with Sadiq Khan at this | :18:20. | :18:22. | |
moment. We will be live in Washington, DC to discuss that. | :18:23. | :19:08. | |
Welcome back to Outside Source. I hope you can hear me about the rain | :19:09. | :19:46. | |
in the wind, because the weather is deteriorating here, just close the | :19:47. | :19:49. | |
London Bridge. Behind me you can probably see the Shard. At the base | :19:50. | :19:53. | |
of the Shard is London Bridge station and it was not far from | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
there that the atrocity of Saturday night played out, with the bike -- | :19:58. | :20:00. | |
with a white van in mounting the pavement on the bridge and three men | :20:01. | :20:03. | |
exiting the van and beginning to stab people in the street. Our lead | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
story on Outside Source today is that the authorities had named two | :20:09. | :20:11. | |
of the three attackers, and we understand one called Khuram Butt, | :20:12. | :20:18. | |
featured in a Channel 4 documentary and was known to the security | :20:19. | :20:25. | |
services. Now, a lot of you would have been aware of a couple of | :20:26. | :20:30. | |
tweets that Donald Trump sent in the hours after the London attack. | :20:31. | :20:33. | |
lot of dubstep from particularly in the city, was the president saying | :20:34. | :20:41. | |
at least seven dead, 48 wounded, and the Mayor of London says there is no | :20:42. | :20:46. | |
reason to be alarmed. Well, the Mayor of London in that case was | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
being taken completely out of context by the president, because in | :20:50. | :20:54. | |
fact what Sadiq Khan had said was that people have no reason to be | :20:55. | :20:55. | |
alarmed. When asked about that particular | :20:56. | :21:05. | |
riposte from Donald Trump, Sadiq Khan's spokesperson said we are not | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
going to get into responding to that, we have better things to do. | :21:10. | :21:12. | |
Donald Trump came out today and sent a second tweet, in which to use the | :21:13. | :21:18. | |
US phrase, he doubled down, criticising the London mayor again. | :21:19. | :21:29. | |
A couple of things to offer here. Sadiq Khan didn't offer an excuse in | :21:30. | :21:35. | |
response to his initial statement, it just wasn't there, so we are not | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
sure what Donald Trump is referring to there. Second of all, his | :21:40. | :21:43. | |
statement was so clear and easy to understand, it is hard to imagine | :21:44. | :21:46. | |
how the president came to misinterpret it, unless he meant the | :21:47. | :21:48. | |
misinterpreted. Let's speak to Anthony | :21:49. | :21:51. | |
Zurcher in Washington. There are a lot of people in the | :21:52. | :21:57. | |
city who are very angry with what Mr Trump said but also bemused that | :21:58. | :22:00. | |
something that is so easy to prove to be wrong is something that he | :22:01. | :22:07. | |
continues to criticise. Right, and Donald Trump had a public appearance | :22:08. | :22:11. | |
earlier today and he did not comment on it at all, didn't take any | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
questions. Reporters during the regular White House press conference | :22:16. | :22:20. | |
asked Sarah Huckabee Sanders, deputy secretary, if Donald Trump was | :22:21. | :22:25. | |
trying to pick a fight with Amir Khan, and he said not at all, coming | :22:26. | :22:28. | |
was focusing on national security -- with Sadiq Khan. Then they asked if | :22:29. | :22:34. | |
he was being targeted by Donald Trump because he was a Muslim mayor | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
and she said it was utterly with the killers. She said what Donald Trump | :22:40. | :22:42. | |
was trying to say is that there was reason to be alarmed over the rise | :22:43. | :22:48. | |
in Islamic extremism in the world. So in other words she answered a | :22:49. | :22:51. | |
question that was not opposed to her and basically did not directly | :22:52. | :22:56. | |
address anything about why Donald Trump decided to pick this fight, | :22:57. | :23:02. | |
where he got the idea about what Sadiq Khan said was talking about | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
being alarmed over a terrorist attack. Nonetheless, Anthony, it is | :23:07. | :23:12. | |
quite something for the American president to say in the 48 hours | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
after a terror attack in the capital of one of America's supposedly | :23:17. | :23:24. | |
closest allies. Absolutely. It is very remarkable, but then again | :23:25. | :23:27. | |
Donald Trump has a tendency of trying to take incidents like this, | :23:28. | :23:33. | |
high profile attacks like this, and use them to political advantage. It | :23:34. | :23:38. | |
was after the Paris attack, I believe, that he first unveiled in | :23:39. | :23:44. | |
December 2015 his proposal for an outright ban on Muslim integration | :23:45. | :23:49. | |
into the US, and his standing within the Republican party, among party | :23:50. | :23:52. | |
voters went up after that, and time and time again you see instances | :23:53. | :23:55. | |
where there has been an attack or some sort of incident and Donald | :23:56. | :23:59. | |
Trump has reacted very aggressively in condemning it and saying it is an | :24:00. | :24:03. | |
example of why the US must do more to take on Islamic extremism. So it | :24:04. | :24:08. | |
isn't out of keeping with the way Donald Trump has behaved on the | :24:09. | :24:12. | |
campaign trail, and as president. But, mind you, it is particularly | :24:13. | :24:17. | |
pointed, given the fact that it is the Mayor of London, and the UK is | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
one of our closest allies. I think he is getting a lot of criticism | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
here within the US on this topic. And just before the end of this half | :24:27. | :24:30. | |
of the programme, explain to us what the president has been saying about | :24:31. | :24:33. | |
the travel ban and the department of justice and the Supreme Court, | :24:34. | :24:36. | |
because it is getting confusing exactly what he would like to | :24:37. | :24:42. | |
happen. Exactly. First of all he tweeted earlier today that he did in | :24:43. | :24:47. | |
fact call for a travel ban, the word ban is something he would use to | :24:48. | :24:50. | |
describe it. Other people in the ministers and have backed off using | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
that term because it was too closely allied with the Muslim ban he | :24:55. | :24:57. | |
proposed earlier. But I think what he is saying is trying to come up | :24:58. | :25:03. | |
with some sort of immigration action, it is too watered down, too | :25:04. | :25:07. | |
politically correct. He would much rather see a sweeping action, much | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
like his original travel ban that he proposed in January, that had a | :25:12. | :25:17. | |
religious component to it and would have possibly affected people who | :25:18. | :25:21. | |
even had immigration, valid immigration papers are coming into | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
the US. Anthony, thank you very much indeed. Yes, I think it is fair to | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
say that in London a lot of people fall into two categories. One group | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
of people think the state visits scheduled for later this year is not | :25:35. | :25:37. | |
something they approve of, or they would welcome the state visit as an | :25:38. | :25:42. | |
opportunity to communicate the Donald Trump exactly how they feel | :25:43. | :25:44. | |
about his criticism of this city's mayor. That is it for this half of | :25:45. | :25:50. | |
Outside Source. I will be back with you for another half an hour with | :25:51. | :25:54. | |
all the latest on the investigations into the London Bridge terror | :25:55. | :25:55. | |
attack. Speak to you in a bit. | :25:56. | :26:00. |