19/06/2017 Outside Source

Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

We start at the Finsbury Park Mosque in North London where a man drove

The van hit a crowd who had gathered to help an elderly man who had

It's not clear if his death was the result of the attack.

A man has been arrested for terror offences.

The BBC understands he is 47-year-old Darren Osborne.

This is what the Prime Minister said. It is a reminder that

terrorism, extremism and hatred take many forms. Our determination to

tackle them must be the same whoever is responsible.

In Brussels the first Brexit negotiations between Britain

We have heard from both men leading each side. I have been encouraged

the constructive approach both sides have taken. We need to agree on the

key principles on the main challenges on the UK withdrawal as

soon as possible. Christian Fraser will be live from Brussels. If you

have a question about these Brexit negotiations, send them my way and

we will put some of them to Christian.

The UK is dealing with its fourth terror attack in four months.

Last night a van drove into a crowd of worshippers

This was the moment the man who allegedly carried out the attack

Several men were needed to pin him to the ground.

The BBC understands he is a 47-year-old called

Here's one of the people that captured him.

We got him down to the ground. He was saying, I'm going to kill more

people. When he was on the ground, I asked him, why did you do that?

Innocent people. And he said, I want to kill Muslims. He said, kill me.

We said we are not going to kill you, why did you do that and he

wouldn't answer. The restrictions around what we can

say. The crowd that was struck had

gathered to help an elderly man It's not clear if his death

was related to the attack. Well, the attack was in

the constituency of the opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn.

He arrived in the early hours. Prime Minister Theresa

May also visited. Here they both are - along

the city's Mayor and police chief. The terrible terrorist attack that

took place last night was an evil act born out of hatred and it has

devastated a community. I am pleased to be here today to see the strength

of that community, coming together, all faiths, united in one desire to

see extremism and hatred of all sorts driven out of our society.

There is no place for this hatred in our country today and we need to

work together as one society, one community, to drive it out, this

evil, that is affecting so many families. The stress levels of the

people I have met from last night and this morning, they are just

frightened, that something like this could happen again. We obviously

need efficient and effective policing and we also need an

attitude in our society of support for each other. The only way to deal

with this kind of issue is community is coming together. This was quite

clearly an attack on Muslims who looked like they were probably

Muslims and they were coming from a prayer meeting. We treat this as a

terrorist attack and we in the Met are as shocked as anybody. These

have been a terrible few weeks for London. Unprecedented in recent

times. We have seen the horror of the fire at Grenfell Tower. We have

seen the attack on London Bridge and before that, Westminster bridge. We

saw last night the terrorist attack here in seven sisters. We will stay

a strong city. We have been at the scene during the day. I'm not sure

if you can make this out, the police tape. Behind that is where the

incident took place, that attack. It is now a crime scene. Literally

round the corner is Finsbury Park mosque where so many people have

been taking part in evening prayers. It is the holy month of Ramadan.

That is the same mosque where Theresa May today met with local

leaders and leaders of that mosque and also other faith leaders to try

to give some reassurance about safety. She has said she is going to

review security outside mosques around the country but a lot of

people are saying that is not enough and they want to see more security

tonight. Much more information on what happened at Finsbury Park on

the BBC News app right now. Brexit talks have officially begun.

These pictures are from the beginning of the day. At the end of

the day after a series of meetings, they held a press conference. I've

been encouraged by the constructive approach both sides have taken. We

have an eminently achievable timetable. It was clear in the

opening that both of us want to achieve the best possible outcome

and a strong as possible partnership. One that works for the

UK and for the EU. Slay we also agreed of the importance of the

timing for this first phase. Our objective is to agree on the main

principles of the key challenges for the UK's withdrawals. As soon as

possible. This includes cuts citizens' rights, the single

financial settlement and a question of Ireland. If you are particularly

keen, the guidelines of the negotiations have been agreed and

they have been posted online. Very easy to find. They are the guiding

you all the way through. The main headline is they will be

negotiations of a week at a time and those weeks will take place every

four weeks. Also some light touches along the way. Both men gave each

other gifts. David Davis gave Michel Barnier a book about mountaineering

and Michel Barnier gave David Davis a special stick for going on long

walks. I think this was a joke they were both in on because as you can

see, lots of people picked up on it and said, Brexit negotiations get

perfect gifts for an uphill struggle. You get the idea.

Christian Fraser is live from Brussels. A couple of months ago,

David Davis was saying, I want to talk about everything in one go. The

details of us exiting and the future relationship we will have with the

EU, all as one. The EU said no, that is not how it will work and today,

they came together and the EU got its way. Yes, and some people,

particularly those on the Remain side, would say he has folded on the

first day. He says, it is set out in the wording of Article 50. He will

obviously push to talk about the future relationship in October going

forward because they only have around 500 days to complete this

negotiation. Unless they get a vote from the Europeans to carry on. Some

people saying that shows what a weakened position he is in. You

could look at it in other ways because if you go back about a year,

Michel Barnier was saying, we will get to the end of Article 50 and

then talk about the separation and then the future. -- the future

trading relationship. Maybe there is a bit of give and take. Certainly,

the Europeans have got the timetable right here at the outset of the

negotiations. We have got a few questions. This is from Dave, saying

do we have any agreed times or agreement milestones at this point?

You pointed to the sequencing of the meetings. By my estimations, we will

have had five weeks of negotiations by the end of October and a lot of

work going on in the background. The pace is certainly picking up. I

would think by the end of October, they would want to have got to the

end of citizens' rights, the European people living in the UK.

Also the UK nationals living in Europe. There is the border issue

with Ireland which I think will take much longer and also the severance

pay which I think will probably get solved recently quickly. David Davis

has said he thinks the UK will present the formula on citizens'

rights on Monday. Maybe that will be done, I wouldn't think to quickly

because there are some fairly tricky issues but I think by October they

will be a long way down the road. Someone watching in Cape Town has

said, where does the Queen fit into how Britain approaches Brexit? And

Alpha says, where does Theresa May fit into the negotiations? On the

Queen, she is a constitutional monarch says she doesn't have

Executive power. She has some largely her role is. She does keep a

abreast of what is going on in her weekly meetings with the Prime

Minister and she gets government red boxes so she's very interested we

know, in the Brexit procedure. Theresa May will no doubt be keeping

you up-to-date on what is happening. The Prime Minister will certainly be

in Brussels on Thursday. The first time she has been here since the

election. They will not talk about Brexit in the European Council

meetings. They have other issues to talk about. They will talk about

Brexit over coffee and mints which perhaps suggests where they put it

in the pecking order. Theresa May will be hanging around on the Brexit

negotiation team will be as well and she will also have to reassure them

she will get this deal with the DUP says she at least has a working

majority in the House of Commons. This is the guy with a Twitter

handle, B cool and relax. He says what you think the UK believes is

its strongest leverage in the Brexit negotiations? The strongest

leverage, obviously, the City of London, because a lot of the

European debt is circulated within the City of London. Obviously we

have very important services, 80% of the UK economy is based in services.

In one sense, although that could be a weakness, we also have a lot to

offer to the European Union and of course, we are because he was of

European products. The Germans are saying, that may well be, but there

can be no cherry picking when it comes to Brexit. I was making the

point earlier, if we get a long way down the negotiations and Angela

Merkel is brought in for some of the heavy lifting, do those issues start

to tell? It may well be that the Germans take a pragmatic viewpoint

on Brexit, particularly if there are large chunks of the economy that

depend on it. Security and defence I would other topics. MI6, MI5, lots

of intelligence, those think they can offer to the European Union.

They don't want to dangle them but they are certainly a lever. This is

from someone watching in London, will the negotiations tackle much

greater issues now or will they wait for the general election switch off

the top of my head are September 24? I don't thing there is any bigger

issue in my view than the border between north and south and that

took up the bulk of the conversation today. If Britain withdraws from a

customs union, how'd you get that invisible border between north and

south which is so crucial to the Belfast agreement? Neither side

wants to see a border in place between north and south but how'd

you get there? Technically it is very difficult because Northern

Ireland could be used as a back door into the European Union. That will

take a lot of discussion I think. What was the question again? What

role is the German election going to play in this? Will they pushed the

big issues behind the German election in case there is a change

of leader? I think we will hear some strong rhetoric from the German

Chancellor over the next few months because of course, she is talking to

her electorate as well. She is also talking to a wider European public

saying, we cannot be divided by Brexit. The 27 must stick together.

I made a point when I was in Paris, France is supposed to be the equal

partner to Germany but we know in the last few years because of its

economic problems, it is not in Germany is the one that has led.

Really interesting survey today talking about German influence in

Europe and some Europeans who are in favour of the European project think

it is a good thing Germany has such influence, but those are the

opposite side you don't like the involvement of the European Union in

every aspect of government, facing Germany has too much influence so it

is a tricky balance for the Germans. Speak to tomorrow no doubt. We will

be live at the EU summit on Thursday for Outside Source. If you are

really planning ahead, which frankly, you probably are not, but

Outside Source will also be covering the German elections. We will be

there a couple of times in September, the voting is on the 24th

of September. We asked a number of people what they think of these

European Union negotiations and if they think anything has changed

since the general election. After these recent elections, I am mostly

disturbed because everybody now asking what is the real political

will of British people. Maybe it is cynical to say but it has a positive

affect on the rest of Europe. What we see is that since Brexit, there

was no domino effect. Everyone has predicted that, after Brexit, they

should be lots of other countries exiting but what we have seen is a

reverse. Bad deal, no deal, no. We need a carefully negotiated deal

protecting jobs, environmental standards, our young people and

giving them hope and aspiration for the future. It is collaboration and

cooperation. I think we're actually seeing more of an opportunity right

now. After what has happened in the election, the door might be more

open again, there is a chance again that we do not see a very hard

Brexit. My fear is the so-called soft Brexit. A new term has been

invented which means we would stay part of the single market and go on

paying money, we would have the European court making judgments and

we would have the free movement of people and I fear that's the

direction we may be heading in. If I am right, it would constitute a

great betrayal of the British voters. Lots of information on the

Brexit negotiations available through the BBC News website. In a

few minutes, we will be turning to Nigeria. We have a report about how

half the food aid meant for people in the north east of Nigeria is not

reaching them. We will find out why. The number of people believed to

have died in the Grenfell Tower disaster in London has risen to 79.

Police named four more victims today. Anthony Disson was 65 and

52-year-old Khadija Khalloufi was confirmed to have died. Officers

investigating also said the investigation will be wide-ranging.

All criminal offences are being considered by Scotland Yard. Three

key themes within that, the first is how the building was managed and

maintained, secondly, what kind of fire safety procedures were in place

and thirdly, and this is critical in relation to the speculation, since

Wednesday, what kind of role, if any, did the refurbishment of the

building have? What kind of role did that contribute to the disaster.

That will take many weeks, if not months to get to the bottom of.

Welcome back to the BBC newsroom. I am Ros Atkins with Outside Source.

Our main story is that there has been attacked on a group of people

close to a mosque last night. The BBC understands this man, Darren

Osborne, is responsible. He was arrested at the scene for terror

offences. Let's come back to the Outside Source screen because I want

to talk about what is happening in Syria.

Russia has warned the US-led coalition fighting in Syria

that it will now view its aircraft as targets.

That's because a US jet shot down a Syrian jet on Sunday.

That's the first time that's happened.

TRANSLATION: Corn everybody to avoid unilateral action, the respect, and

I stress again, serious sovereignty, and to join our work which is

coordinated with the Syrian government. We will try to

understand the American point of view on this. Do we have

justification for this action? The shooting down of the Syrian plane,

the Americans say it was forced protection, an act of self defence.

They say the Syrians were targeting some local forces on the ground to

which the Americans were allied. They said they had been warned of

against this and the American shot down the plane because the people

were in jeopardy. They say it's not a shift in strategy in terms of

wanting to openly confront the Syrian regime. The strategy is

remains focused on trying to eradicate the Islamic State group.

In the meantime, if the regime is going to attack its allies and the

partners it is working with, then it will respond. That is the

explanation here. The chairman of the joint chief of staff also talked

about the Russian element, because the Russians have also cut off this

hotline they have with the Americans to prevent air accidents. He said

there was a communications link between the two operational centres

for the Americans were working to try to re-establish what they call

this the conflicting channel because it is very important to keep the

risk down for the pilots in this crowded airspace. There are so many

interested parties in the Syrian conflict and out. What is the top

priority now for the Americans? Is it ousting President Assad or

dealing with the Islamic State group? It is the latter. The fact

they have struck at pro-regime forces, this was the first time they

shot down a plane but they have had a number of strikes against

pro-regime forces in the last weeks. They say because they are advancing

on US position or advancing on positions or getting too close to

areas where they have partners on the ground and they are defending

themselves, that is how they put it. What you're seeing is that Isis is

on the retreat and there is competition for areas and territory

it leaves behind. This is bringing US forces in proximity to the regime

forces backed by the Iranians and Russians and sometimes conflict.

Although America say the strategy is not to get involved in the civil

war, the battlefield is getting more complicated and the risk of more

violence is there. We appreciate the update. Thank you.

The US says it shot the plane down because it was dropping bombs

Russia and Syria say its target was the Islamic State group.

Like everything in the Syrian conflict -

it's fiendishly complicated - and hard to verfiy.

Each colour marks territory held by a different group or government.

Earlier I spoke to Rasha Qandeel from BBC Arabic and she explained

the circumstances in which the plane came down.

You have two sides of the story. The Syrian side saying the area that the

US carrier targeted was actually occupied by the so-called Islamic

State. The other side says it wasn't and it was actually an area where

the forces that they support, the SDF, were employed the. Despite what

you have been talking about, this has been targeted last week by Iran

with a missile. As it is crowded on the ground, it is now also crowded

in the air and the fear is it will become more complicated, the rules

of engagement will be all mixed up. Explain this channel between the

Americans and the Russians which the Russians are now saying we are not

doing any more. Despite the Russians' reaction, it seemed to be

very immediate and strict but actually it is not. The Russians

usually react to such attacks by forcing a counterattack or a reply

immediately. This didn't happen. What happened was that there was a

promise there is no immediate military action but it was a promise

that anything west of the river will be targeted by Russia as targets.

This is another threat, halting communication with the United States

would supposedly prevented incidents in the air. It is all talk but

nothing actually took place on the ground or in the air. Let's also

talk about Raqqa, the de facto capital of the territory controlled

by the Islamic State and it is under more pressure. Yes. What the United

States used today, it is like an example of what is going to happen

in Raqqa. The F-18 is a super hornet, it means the speed is a

little beyond 2000 kilometres per hour and the range is 3300

kilometres. That means the United States might use twin-engine

carriers which is a show of force, more than anything else on the

ground. Bekker is the centre held by the United States and it is

supposedly, if it is actually by the Islamic State, the so-called Islamic

State, Raqqa is basically the capital, the centre,. If you speak

Arabic, you can get news from all of the world in Arabic via BBC Arabic

.com. I will speak to you in a couple of minutes.

Good evening. There will be a detailed look in United Kingdom just

before the top of the hour. Now we will look