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Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source live

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from Hamburg, where the G20 will be taking place.

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It is not overstating things to say this summit could shape the world's

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response to other problems. Angela Merkel and Donald Trump might be the

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most prominent personalities in the next couple of days. Donald Trump

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flew in from Warsaw, in which he gave this speech, with this warning

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about Western separation. There are dire threats for our

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security and to our way of life. Since then, he's met with

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German Chancellor Angela Merkel. We know they don't agree on many

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things, including climate change. TRANSLATION: We know

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the United States have withdrawn All others, or at least

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as far as we know - many, many others -

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are still committed International trade is likely to be

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a tension point as well. This is today, with the EU and Japan

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agreeing on an outline of the major free trade agreement. In Hamburg a

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big protest has been under way. Thousands have been out on the

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streets, along with thousands of police officers, and it has turned

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violent in some areas of the city. We will bring you right up to date.

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And if you want to get in touch at any time -

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There are three things I should tell you before we do anything

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else on Outside Source. Above me is the sound of helicopters. There was

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also the bang of CS gas being used by police. The second thing, if I'm

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looking at a slightly tropical surrounding its because I'm actually

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in the middle of a beach bar, which has some palm trees. We chose it

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because it allows us to broadcast close to where this protest takes

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place, as well as showing you the scale of Hamburg's port. And the

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third thing, whilst all the world's most important and powerful leaders

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are here, two people are likely to dominate, the host Angela Merkel and

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her most high-profile gas, Donald Trump. Those two have already met in

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the last couple of hours. We know they have many differences. Angela

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Merkel has said recently that the world can no longer rely on the US.

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We know she says that tackling climate change is the number-1

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priority at the G20 summit. We know Donald is pulling the US out of the

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climate change agreement. We will have more on the protests and the

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politics in a moment. First of all, let's look back a few hours to a

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major speech Donald Trump gave in Warsaw. And he got a great

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reception. CHANTING "DONALD TRUMP!

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DONALD TRUMP". Thank you. Effusive praise for

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Poland and polls but also this stark warning.

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The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has

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Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost?

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Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders?

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Do we have the desire and the courage to preserve our

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civilisation, in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it?

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We can have the largest economies and the most lethal weapons anywhere

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on earth, but if we do not have strong families and strong values,

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then we will be weak and we will not survive.

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Given that America has thousands of troops in Poland and that that

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speech was being made only 300 kilometres away from the border with

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Russia, it was inevitable that Donald Trump returned to a theme

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that he has spoken about many times, the amount of money that Nato

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members spend on defence. Nato members are committed to spending 2%

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of their GDP but a lot of them do not do that. Poland is one that

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does. Donald Trump praised the Polish government that had this

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message for other European members of Nato.

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My administration has demanded that all members of Nato

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finally meet their full and fair financial obligation.

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As a result of this insistence, billions of dollars more have

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There are billions and billions of dollars more coming

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in from countries that, in my opinion, would not have

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Justyna Pawlak, Poland correspondent for Reuters, joins us.

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I wonder how you assess what Mr Trump had to say?

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Well, I think there was a lot of concern is coming out of this

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meeting, with Poland being a leading Eurosceptic voice in Europe, that

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President Trump would be trying to drive a wedge between the Polish

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government and the eastern part of the EU and the West. I think he had

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a sort of mixed message, really, praising the Polish for spending

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more than some of the Western Europeans on the one hand. While on

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the other hand, kind of slightly possibly encouraging the Polish in

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their defiance towards the European Union, by giving a veiled criticism

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of European bureaucracy, something that the Polish government, a viewed

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the Polish government shares. And he had some sharp criticism for

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Russia, didn't he? Saying Russia was destabilising Ukraine?

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Yes, definitely. He also reaffirmed Washington's commitment to Nato's

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collective defence clause, something both the Polish government and the

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Western governments are hoping to hear. But the Polish government was

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also saying in the run-up to this meeting that they were hoping for

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more promises, possibly, and that didn't materialise.

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This was a big coup for the Polish government, for Mr Trump to stop in

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Warsaw before coming to the G20. Would you agree it's a symptom of a

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strained relationship that he has with more established European

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powers, like France and Germany? Well, certainly this is a huge

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diplomatic coup for the Polish government. But I think he tried...

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Any criticism he had of Europe was quite veiled. Like his comment about

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the bureaucracy being one of the biggest threats to Western

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civilisation. So I think it's a mixed message to both sides.

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Thank you very much for your time. If you are just switching on, I'm

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live with you from by the water in Hamburg. Across the water is

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Hamburg's enormous port. Let me tell you more about the city we are in

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and the event that is going to start tomorrow. Hamburgers Germany's

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second biggest city, 1.7 million people live here. The port you can

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see behind me with its hundreds of grains is one of the biggest in

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Europe. It is not by chance for Angela Merkel has chosen this as the

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host city. She wanted to say her commitment to the G20's came with a

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commitment to globalisation and trade. If we come more closely in on

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the map, you will see I am right by the water, lots of restaurants here

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are largely empty because of the G20. This is a tough area to come

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into the moment. But we're not just here because we are close to the

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port and the restaurant. The big protest we will look out across the

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hour has also been passing very, very close to where I am

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broadcasting from and I will bring you up to date on that. That is the

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city the G20. Let's talk about the event itself, G20 stands the group

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of 20, and organisational most 20 years old. It features the world's

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19 largest economies in the world, plus the European Union. You will

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get the usual suspects, US, and Germany, China, Russia, also places

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like Indonesia and South Africa. The people here represent two thirds of

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the world's population, and that economic impact is even more

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pronounced. They represent 80% of the world's economic output. So the

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decisions that take place here at the G20 are hugely significant.

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Let's try and understand a little bit more.

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Ariane Reimers is a political correspondent for ARD

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Stefanie Friedhoff is a freelance German-American journalist.

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Thank you both for joining us. Lots of conversation, but does the G20

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have an obligation to deliver policies or commitments? I guess so.

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It's quite important for Angela Merkel to deliver something. Because

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she has come up at the beginning of G20 that she will get the Paris

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climate agreement, all the climate change issues are very important to

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her. It's kind of a shock that Trump has left, the United States have

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left the Paris climate agreement. I think it will be very tough for her

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to get the final declaration at the end and have the climate issue at

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the top of what she wants. That will be the challenge for her. I guess

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that the G7 Wii had a statement from six but not from seven. That's what

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I expected from this meeting, a veto and 19 in favour. If that is an

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outcome, is that a defeat for the idea of the G20, the idea that all

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these powerful countries can work in collectively? I think they are

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trying very hard to avoid 19 plus one. I think they will try to get

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the final declaration and they might put the descent into the first few

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sentences and go on with a joint declaration, may be harbouring the

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other topics, which are not that controversial as climate. At the end

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they might have a G20 final declaration, that is the aim of the

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Germans, I guess. And have the US also signing it. I have covered lots

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of international summits but not sure if I have seen one with the

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security operation of this scale. For viewers in the UK and around the

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world, can you describe what has happened to this city? The city has

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pretty much been shut down in the last 24 hours, I would say. I was

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having a beer last night and then the tracks came in and shut off

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everything. It very much reminded me of George W Bush's inauguration, the

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first time in Washington were shut down in the same way. I am from

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Hamburg and I brought here. Now I work in the capital, and I had

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walked to my parents home, because there was no taxis, no buses, no

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public transport. 06 weeks I walked four kilometres. New Hamburg. Some

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critics say it's a vision of a dystopian future, with visions of

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water cannon tanks on the streets and all this security. The

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alternative Angela Merkel was to hold it in the middle of nowhere and

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some people might praise her for bringing it to write to the middle

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of one of your most important cities? Some of the Hamburg people

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are saying it's a bad idea to bring it to such a big city, shut it down

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so nobody can go to work, schools are closed, very difficult. A lot of

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people I know have fled the city, have taken some days off, holiday or

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whatever. I think she wanted, you just said it, she wanted to have it

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here as a centre, a harbour free-trade, so that was a symbol,

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and it's her birth town, so maybe an emotional element as well. Lots of

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intriguing head-to-head meetings, Trump and Angela Merkel, Donald

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Trump and Vladimir Putin, which will you looking for to the most? Donald

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Trump and Vladimir Putin. In the United States now I think there is

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such importance at seeing how they will act with each other, and what

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the canister will be between the two of them. That's what I'm most

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excited about. Good to see both of you. Thank you very much. You're not

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going anywhere. If you have questions about the G20 send them my

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way. You can see our e-mail on the screen, and the hashtag. We will do

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our best answer your questions. I mentioned the protest. We will tend

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to those in detail in a few minutes and bring you right up to date off

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what has happened on the streets and why these protesters are turning out

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to object to Donald Trump at this whole summit. We will try to

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understand why. Central London has been rocked by

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series of terrorist attacks. Police say there have been many casualties

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and there is growing speculation that al-Qaeda was responsible.

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Germany will be the host of the 2006 World Cup. They beat the favourite

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South Africa by a single vote. In South Africa the possibility of

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losing hadn't even been contemplated.

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The man entered the palace through a downstairs window and made his way

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from the Queen's private bedroom and then asked her for a cigarette. On

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the pretext of some being brought, she summoned the footman on duty who

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took the man away. One child. One teacher. One book,

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and one pen can change the world. Education is the only solution.

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I am live in Hamburg on the eve of the Iraq. Many elements to this

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story, Angela Merkel and Donald Trump Bourdy Matt Tebbutt. We know

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they have a number of differences on climate change on free trade, but

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they are talking and they will meet again as the summit goes on. Donald

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Trump had come into Hamburg from Warsaw, where he gave a speech in

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which he said Western civilisation is stake. He also reaffirmed

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America's commitment to Nato. A couple of you have been messaging

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saying what is going on with the protest, why are people turning out?

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Let's turn to this issue now. We knew there would be a big protest in

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the past couple of hours, we knew the police would turn out and we

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knew almost certainly that there would be violent clashes. So it

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proved. These are some of the latest pictures we have. The estimate on

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how mini people have turned out very a lot. Some people say between

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5-10000 and some people say more. Wheels there are 20,000 security

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personnel in Hamburg, not all of them detailed to look after this

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protest but we know hundreds were in attendance. A load of police vans

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were just behind me and we saw a group of about 50 riot police

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heading towards a protest a little while ago. We also know pepper spray

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and tear gas is being used and water cannon fired from these enormous

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police vans have also been used, as well as surveillance drones and now

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and then you will hear the helicopters up above as well. BBC's

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Jimmy Hill is our correspondent in Germany and has been following the

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protest all day. -- Jenny. Police have dispersed

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protesters here. It all began very peacefully this

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afternoon, some 5000 or so people demonstrating in a square a little

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further down the road behind me. It suddenly turned

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very ugly as police in riot gear moved in to try

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and break the protest up. As you can see, there

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is still a bit of this Missiles have been thrown, they have

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been using water cannon, and as you can see, they are trying gradually,

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bit by bit, to remove the remaining protesters back

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further down the road. At one stage police were telling

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people inside what was in effect a kettle, to remove

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balaclavas, they had balaclavas covering their faces,

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which is illegal here in Germany. It looks like the police

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are coming towards us, trying to clear what remains

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of the demonstrators. It will not be easy

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because they have made it very As far as they are concerned,

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the streets of Hamburg are theirs and they

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want to take them back. That was recorded a little while

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ago. Let me show you the live pictures we have now. Riot police

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are on the streets, water cannon are also being used. These are hugely

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intimidating vehicles, which fire water at a very high pressure. Some

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countries don't use them. The German police do. This is just the latest

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in a series of clashes that have been going on two or three hours.

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Behind me we have had the sound of helicopters, technote, firecrackers

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and CS canisters ricocheting across the water behind me. Last night a

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protester explained to me why he was turning out at these events. And we

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stopped at a protester's camp in a churchyard. One man who didn't want

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to be identified did agree to talk. Self called leaders of the world

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come here and they say they want to solve problems

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in the world, but really it's the reason why the world

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is so violent, where many people Why is this system not

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working, do you think? The only thing that

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rules everything We are privileged here

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in the northern world. So we can lean back and say,

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"Oh, everything is OK", but the world is not OK,

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I believe. One of the main protests here in

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Hamburg is called Welcome To Hell. Hell is already

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created, I would say. Hell is created, hell

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is the situation here. So you came today, if you recognise

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only what happened in the last few days here in Hamburg,

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or what happens worldwide, what happens in Turkey, what happens

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in Moscow, what happens... In the United States,

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for instance, for many, There will be thousands

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of you on the street Do you think the leaders are going

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to be willing to listen to you? As I said, they think, perhaps,

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they think they need pictures, But no, I don't think

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they will listen to us, and it's not my aim,

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not my first aim. My first aim is that people

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like you and me may perhaps listen and understand

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what's happening here. Lots of questions coming in on the

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G20 summit. Let's try get you some answers. A couple of people asking,

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what do the protesters want? It's a difficult question to ask, because

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there's a lot of different groups turning out. Yes, I think they are

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very different motives to march here in Hamburg. The demonstration of

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today is pretty radical, it's people who wanted to protest against the

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organisation. They think the world order should be different, there

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should be more justice in general. They think the rich countries should

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not host a meeting like this. It is very general protest, but there have

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been other marches which have been like general... We've been seeing

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they want better climate change. Some make a distinction between from

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Matt announced that they saw everyone coming to this summit as

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part of the same problem? Yes, in general it's a protest against

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capitalism. People are marching against the levels of poverty and

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how little is being done against poverty, climate change, all the

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major issues being discussed at the summit are at the heart of what

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people want to change much faster than the summit. One viewer would

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like to ask do you think the G20 will take on the issue of North

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Korea? Definitely. Bilateral talks, not necessarily on the G20 agenda

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but definitely everybody will talk about it behind doors. All the

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meetings between China's president and Trump, they will talk about

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North Korea, the issues in North Korea and so on. This speech earlier

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in Warsaw we heard Donald Trump talking about the dual threat of

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North Korea and other terror threats. My hope is that there can

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be back door conversations about what approach to take, because the

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situation is changing quickly and frightening some people. There have

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been talks a long time ago, and they might be an initiative to just pick

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up these six party talks again. Another viewer wants to ask, is

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there a fixed agenda? How is the G20 organise? All the papers have

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already said! There is an agenda. Of course... The shared powers have

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been meeting here already for two days to prepare well what's going on

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tomorrow, and the big day of the G20. But there are some light issues

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fixed and they have been prepared for months and years. I think they

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are definitely different topics which will come out, like climate

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change, free trade, and health. We mentioned some of the issues, let's

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pick up on a question here... What are the major talking point? I saw a

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briefing document earlier on the list was extraordinarily long, from

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the way the financial system in the world is operating, to tax

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avoidance, to women's economic empowerment. I was left feeling, how

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is the G20 actually going to organise all of these different

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issues into something that is focused? There are different groups

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working on that. They have been preparing for a very long time and

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now they are coming together and trying to put all these prepare

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documents and issues together and... The hard work has maybe been done

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before the summit starts? Of course. One last one for you, because of

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your connections to America and Germany. How do you think Trump,

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Merkel and Putin dynamic will work out? ... Will it be awkward? Yes! In

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terms of the relationship between Trump and Merkel, Merkel has been

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more explicit about her concerns on Mr Trump. Today he seemed to be

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friendly, he shook her hand, trying to make peace. Small steps. Thank

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you both very much for those. If you have more questions we will still be

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on air for another half an hour on Outside Source. You're very welcome

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to send my way. You can get me on social media. Details on screen

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throughout. The G20 officially begins tomorrow, but Donald Trump is

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here on Angela Merkel is here, many leaders are already arriving. We

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will keep bringing you coverage in a couple of minutes time.

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Good evening. The UK outlook on the way in the next half an hour but I

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want to take you to Japan first of all.

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