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Hello, I'm Karin Giannone, this is Outside Source.

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Donald Trump's son has released emails implying he knew

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about Russian efforts to influence the US elections as early

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It was revealed in a series of messages he posted online

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from last year showing he was eager to accept incriminating information

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about Hillary Clinton promised by a Russian source.

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In a White House statement Donald Trump has said his son

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is a high quality person, and he applauded his transparency.

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A day after the Iraqi Prime Minister proclaimed Mosul liberated,

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BBC journalists on the ground find that fighting is still ongoing.

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The Sound of music is mixing with the sounds of bombing coming from

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the western side, where there are still pockets held by the extremists

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in the old city. More than 200 million women

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worldwide who want access to family planning services still don't have

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it, we'll be finding out what's And if you want to get in touch

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#BBCOS is the place to go. Donald Trump Junior has released

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emails confirming that he was eager to accept what he was told

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was damaging information about Hillary Clinton provided

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by the Russian state, This is all relating to a meeting

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he had with a Russian lawyer who he thought had compromising

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material about his father's opponent Here are the emails, you can find

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them on his Twitter account, And to this Donald Trump Jnr

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replied: Donald Trump Jnr says he released

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them in the name of transparency but it might also have had something

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to do with the fact that @nytimes the New York Times was just

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about to publish it. And we've just had this reaction

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from the White House. Trump says his son,

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Donald Trump Junior, is a high quality person

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and applauds his transparency. These emails were sent

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between Donald Trump Jnr and a publicist, Rob Goldstone,

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who set up a meeting with this Rob Goldstone referred to her

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as a Russian government attorney. Here she is speaking

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to NBC earlier today. Have you ever worked for the Russian

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government? To have connections to the Russian government? TRANSLATION:

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No. They had the impression, it appears that they were going to be

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told some information that you had about the D How did they get that

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impression? TRANSLATION: It's possible they were looking for such

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information and wanted it so badly. We're looking at this from

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Washington, and what we have here and is at the smoking gun so many

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are looking for? It's hard to tell what a smoking gun is these days.

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Every time we think we've got some major revelation, Donald Trump seems

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to find a way of surviving at. This is very big and points to what

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Donald Trump Jnr was thinking when he went to this meeting, and he

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thought he was meeting with someone who was a Russian government lawyer,

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that is the way it had been presented, a Natalia Veselnitskaya

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denies that. He was posted get information that was damaging to

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hear Clinton. There is a possibility that Rob Goldstone went into this

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trying to blow some smoke and try to make this meeting seem more

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important than it was, that there really wasn't an effort to reach out

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to the Trump campaign. That could be beside the point because it's still

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the fact that Donald Trump Jnr and high-level members of the Trump

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campaign sat down in meetings where they discussed Hillary Clinton and

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possibly damaging information about her in the heat of the presidential

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campaign with a Russian national. Where does this fit in into all the

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other investigations about possible rings to the Russian government?

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It's only a matter of time before Donald Trump Jnr is called before

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Congress, the house intelligence committee want to see if this really

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is something that draws ties between the Trump campaign and the Russian

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government itself. Then you have the independent counsel investigation,

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who have been very tight-lipped so far but I think they're going to be

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very interested in these e-mails, and in Donald Trump Jnr because they

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were looking into possible ties between the Trump campaign and the

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Russian government. I think those are the ones that will be

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particularly interesting but I think it'll be a while before we hear the

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results of those investigations. Anthony, thank you very much. Let's

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talk to Richard Painter, a White House ethics lawyer under President

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George W Bush. Welcome. What do you make of what we've seen and heard?

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Well, this is very troubling. It is yet more evidence that the Trump

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campaign was willing to work with the Russian agents to obtain

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damaging information on Hillary Clinton, even though there are laws

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that prevent and prohibit foreign nationals from contributing anything

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to American political campaigns. And also laws against computer hacking,

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and we know how the Russians get their information because they've

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been doing it for a considerable period of time. And yet everyone in

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the Trump administration denies contacts with the Russians, denies

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collaboration with the Russians and one by one we are seeing these

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stories start to fall apart. Donald Trump Jnr had several different

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explanations for what happened, each one shot down by additional facts.

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We are very concerned about this in the United States because our

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elections are supposed to be for the American people without foreign

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interference and someone who works with a foreign government in order

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to win an election here is really viewed as having betrayed their

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country. It is treason, whether it is prosecuted under a treason

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statutes or another statute. Just to be clear, sorry to interrupt you,

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you're saying this is treason? It is. To undermine your own government

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to help accomplish the objectives of a foreign adverse rave. It is well

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known the Russian government wanted this election to go against Hillary

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Clinton in favour of Donald Trump. No American should be assisting a

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foreign government with that type of work inside the United States. They

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were conducting espionage inside the United States, they were engaging

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computer hacking and other crimes and when that type of call comes in

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from a foreign country, particularly an adverse research is Russia, you

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call the FBI. That is what he should have done, call the FBI. Let's just

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say these are people inexperienced in politics, new to it presidential

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campaign, they don't know the protocols, this is Donald Trump Jr

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simply doing what he thinks all campaigns do, trying to get

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opposition, and he's well killing them thinking they are going to be

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helpful but the campaign. What is wrong with that? Well, Donald Trump

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Jnr and Jared Kuschner and Paul Manafort, the top three people are

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all going to this meeting! I can't believe that nothing came out of the

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meeting. That doesn't make any sense. Why would all three of them

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go to this meeting? Were not talking about inexperienced people here.

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Paul Manafort had plenty of experience, they had good lawyers

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working for the campaign, they wanted to meet with the Russians in

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order to obtain damaging information about Hillary Clinton and they were

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willing to do anything to win. That includes betraying our country into

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the hands of a foreign power which was trying to determine the outcome

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of our elections. Once again, our elections our our business to be

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determined by the American people, which has been ever since the

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American Revolution and that is what our constitution sets forth, and

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foreign countries are supposed to stay out and there are specific

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criminal statutes what they did. Ledley should be assisting them with

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their conduct in the United States. One brief question, where do you

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think this leaves the investigations going on currently? We have the

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criminal investigation by Robert Mueller, the special counsel and we

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also have investigations in Congress which are investigations that need

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to be stepped up because we need to make sure that everyone in the White

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House, everyone currently serving in this administration has been loyal

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to the United States and is not somehow beholden to Russia because

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Russia, of course, has what of additional evidence there is of

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collaboration. They may well have the heads of some people of this

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government and read to find out the facts as soon as possible. We could

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have a government chosen by the American people that serves the

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interests of the American people and has a meaningful role in the global

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community. Thank you very much for your time and we will be speaking in

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a short while to support of Donald Trump, a lawyer which says this is a

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storm in a teacup. This mansion is a Russian diplomatic

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compound seized by President Obama last year and now Russia says it is

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time to give it back. TRANSLATION: The situation is outrageous and I

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find it is shameful for such a great country as the United States, an

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advocate for international law, to leave this situation hanging in

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midair. We are aware of the Russia phobic feelings in Congress and

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understand the decision to expel our diplomat and confiscate our property

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was taken by the bomb administration.

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In the final weeks of the Obama administration the US took

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the diplomatic property and expelled Russian diplomats as retaliation

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for alleged Russian interference in the US election.

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Sergei Lavrov also hinted at Russian retaliation,

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but all this leaves President Trump with few easy options,

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as Olga Ivshina from the BBC's Russian service explained for me.

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Oh, definitely he is in a tricky position because he claimed a number

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of times he wants to re-establish relations with Russia in this cold

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period. But now if he gives Russians back their diplomatic premises, then

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he will be criticised for his actions. Specially bearing in mind

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today's news. He will be criticised for having special relations with

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the Russians for depending on them, and so on. If he doesn't do it, then

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it will be very hard to renew dialogue with Mr Putin in a positive

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tone. When President Obama took this action at the end of his

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administration, what was he basing his act on? What evidence do they

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have? He said his intelligence community have provided him

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sufficient evidence of alleged Russian interference into US

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elections, so there was this open source report and also there was a

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classified report into intelligence where they listed several grounds on

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which they based their findings. And Russia to this day is said where is

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the evidence that we interviewed in the US election? Obviously, Russians

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keep denying it. They say it is a witchhunt and that American

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politicians have their internal struggle, which they are trying to

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solve by pointing attention to what they call the Russian problem.

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Russian argument have changed over time. At first they said there was

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noted Fearon 's. And they say of course the ambassador was meeting

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politicians because it's his job and also Mr Putin noted that of course

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we have no state funded hackers but some hackers have pay trotter

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promoted and they may interfere and they may try to threaten someone

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they perceive as enemies. Also he gave a hint talking to one of the US

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journalists, he said have you seen those classified reports? I've read

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them and there's nothing sufficient in them. Which is quite stunning.

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Stay with us on outside source, still to come.

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Nearly $400 million of extra funding to go towards family planning

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programmes in some of the world's poorest countries,

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as a major international conference on contraception

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The government has announced there will be a UK-wide inquiry

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into the contaminated blood scandal, following a long

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At least 2,400 people are thought to have died after being given NHS

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blood products infected with hepatitis C and HIV

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The Prime Minister Theresa May has been outlining her reasons

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Contaminated blood scandals of the 70s and 80s was an appalling tragedy

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and should never have happened. Thousands of patients expected the

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world-class care from the NHS that it is famous for but they were

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failed. At least 2400 people died and thousands more were exposed to

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hepatitis C and HIV. Often with life changing consequences. The victims

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and their families have suffered pain and hardship and they deserve

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answers. And the inquiry that I've announced today will give them those

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answers so they will know why this happened, how it happened, this was

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an appalling tragedy and it should never have happened.

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This is Outside Source live from the BBC newsroom.

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Donald Trump's son has released emails implying he knew

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about Russian efforts to influence the US elections as early as June

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last year, and was offered incriminating information

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on Hillary Clinton from a Russia source.

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Other stories from around the BBC right now, the BBC World Service

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reports that 16 people have been killed after a US military plane

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crashed in Mississippi. It's thought it exploded in the air

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before crashing into a field. Police say the plane

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was loaded with ammunition. BBC Arabic reports that

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the United States and Qatar have signed an agreement on fighting

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terrorism and its financing. The deal came during a visit

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to Doha by the US Secretary He said Qatar had been taking "very

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reasonable" positions in its dispute Among the most read on our website

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a 22-year-old Colombian man has been arrested,

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on suspicion of threatening to attack an Ariana Grande

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concert in Costa Rica. Security's been tightened

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at Grande's concerts, since the attack at one of her shows

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in Manchester in the UK. A major international conference

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on contraception has been And with it, the announcement that

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?300 million of extra funding will go to family planning

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programmes in some of The money's being provided by the

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Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. Uganda is one of the most difficult

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places in the world to get Suilana was 16 when

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I met her in 2014. After three days in labour

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on the floor of her home, TRANSLATION: I didn't even

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get to hold my baby. I didn't even see

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her before she died. When I see other women carrying

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their babies, I feel so sad. Suilana pulled out of school,

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limiting her chances even 10,000 miles away in London,

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the British Government is hosting a global summit to try to help girls

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like Suilana, together with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation,

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it has today pledged hundreds of millions of pounds to get

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contraceptives to more But there is a major

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stumbling block. Earlier this year, President Trump

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announced he wants to stop funding all international

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family planning projects. It is a significant blow,

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given the US is the biggest But campaigners are trying

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to remain optimistic. That is his proposal but I know

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what's right for the world and when I stand on the stage

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and I see the UK Government, Canadian government,

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Indian government, Bangladesh, Indonesia, all increasing

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their money, I know Back in northern Uganda,

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the cycle of poverty continues But it is hoped the commitment made

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in London today will help millions more women break the cycle

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by choosing when they The theory 's efforts to fight

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diseases like HIV aids will be jeopardised, which is especially

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concerning for South Africa which is the highest number of people living

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with HIV in the world. This popular TV show was one of the great success

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stories of US funding for HIV aids but if the storyline strays into

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reproductive health or abortion issue the producers have to look

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from a knee elsewhere. It is about complying with tight US funding

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rules. Those rules have just got tighter. Next is the policy...

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President Trump has brought back old restrictions in during no US money

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is traced to abortion services. Dubbed the global gag rule doctors

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say funding for HIV is now included and worry all health services could

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be compromised. I don't see how people can sit in Washington and

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think they can influence me. And restrict you in terms of giving you

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health information that you have a right to to make an informed choice.

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It interferes in the doctor-patient relationship in a negative manner.

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When I tested HIV positive, I don't think it is a barrier for me. This

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woman, and inspiring young businesswoman, owes her survival to

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US HIV funding. I collect my medication every three months. The

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money to keep a healthy now comes with strings attached. It cannot be

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linked to abortion in any way. The problem is modern day health care is

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all integrated whether it is children's vaccinations or sexual

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health. Activists warned there could be affected by this rule is simply

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because they are on the same site. With a children's clinic here and

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reproductive health and HIV services down the corridor, this one-stop

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shop is the gold standard that international health agencies are

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trying to promote but there is a fear that the global gag rule could

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impose guilt by association, the services that have got nothing to do

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with abortion. Go out on the streets and you reminded that despite being

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illegal in South Africa more than half of all abortions are still done

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it is the key because of stigma and that could get worse. Our secret

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camera shows how easy it is already to buy abortion drugs illegally. And

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actress poses as a client. Watch the man in the brown jacket. He is the

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dealer. He tells her no medical supervision's needed. Look at the

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man sitting down. He's the accomplice and slips the drugs out

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from under his sleeve. Then, in minutes, the pair are gone. Doctors

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now face a hard choice. Use US funds to battle diseases such as HIV but

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stay silent on abortion or turned their back on the biggest donor in

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the world. It is a delicate balance. The taxpayers in the United States

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have a right and the health care workers in the women in South Africa

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have a right also obtained their highest level of care based on the

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laws their country. But many still believe the US is overstepping the

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mark. Self-sufficiency is still not an option for many African states.

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China's New Silk Road is President Xi Jin Ping's

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He plans to spend around a trillion dollars on projects

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But some countries feel his bid for strategic influence could leave

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The BBC's China Editor Carrie Gracie has been

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travelling the New Silk Road, and reports from Western China.

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This is the face of the new Silk Road.

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Behind the stage make-up, this girl is a Muslim

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The Her people left behind by China's growth.

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TRANSLATION: Tourists I met had heard this place was unsafe,

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that they couldn't be sure to get out unharmed if they came here.

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Some people did some bad things and it has affected all of us.

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China is trying to rewrite the script.

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At this theatre, a grand narrative of ethnic unity

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The wealth gap between west China and the coast,

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a challenge as immense as the terrain.

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This economy is addicted to building.

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But the coast now has as much road and rail as it can absorb so China

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is seeking new frontiers at home and abroad.

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To solve economic insecurity problems with one blow.

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The Silk Road was once unimaginably remote for most

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In less than a decade, China has built twice as much

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high-speed rail as the rest of the world combined.

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A magnet for the biggest tourist board in the world.

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One the government hopes will kick-start growth

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Heading west to troubled Xinjiang, do they fear becoming

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TRANSLATION: I am not afraid, there are people looking

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A small group of people are causing trouble but 99% are good.

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At the grand theatre, they are spending $250 million

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But the more China invests, the more it has to protect.

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The ancient Silk Road story has moments of danger.

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And China's grand new narrative is fraught with peril.

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Deliver on the spin of opportunities for all, or forever scan the crowd

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More on the BBC website. Stay with us, we will have plenty more, we

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will be hearing from a lawyer about those e-mails released by Donald

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Trump Junior, and she says it is a storm in a teacup. Stay with us.

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