19/07/2017 Outside Source

Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

I thought we were done with the G20 - but two weeks since Hamburg it

turns out Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin spent more time

There they are at the meeting we knew about.

We'll get into what happened a little later in the day.

The White House says it was normal - not everyone agrees.

It makes the president, frankly and disturbingly, not a credible in the

White House response. The salaries of the BBC's

top-earning stars have been revealed - and about two-thirds of those

earning more than ?150,000 are men. Saudi Arabia and its allies have

dropped their demands of Qatar and issued six

broad principles instead. That's a climb down

in most people's eyes. We will report from Nairobi. Fake

news is becoming an issue in the key union election. -- in the Kenyan

election. Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin met

twice at the G20 summit. This picture is from

Hamburg on July 7th. Now we know they also spoke again

during dinner that night. The US National Security Council

says it was a "pull "A conversation over dessert should

not be characterised as a meeting." That is what it went on to say. We

are being sucked into serious semantics.

This is Ian Bremmer, who first reported the second meeting.

It is certainly true that at summit meetings you have little pull asides

between heads of state to discuss business all the time. When our pull

aside -- a pull aside for one hour is highly unusual. A pull aside of

one hour between Putin and Trump where only the Kremlin translator is

there, we do not know what is discussed, given the uniqueness of

the Russia/ US relationship, it makes the president, frankly and

disturbingly, not credible in the White House response to this story.

A senior White House official has said...

"The insinuation that the White House has tried to hide

a second meeting is false, malicious and absurd.

It is not merely perfectly normal, it is part of a president's duties,

"Fake news story of secret dinner with Putin is sick.

All G20 leaders, and spouses, were invited

We knew they were all going for dinner but we did not know until

very recently that that hour or so conversation took place. Let's bring

in Anthony Zurcher. I guess this is all the context of the broader

Trump/ Russia story? That is how do you have to seed.

During a dinner if the heads of state were to meet and chat, that is

normal, nothing outside of the norms of normal diplomacy. Because the

spotlight is shining so sharply on US/ Russia relations, this has been

looked at suspiciously. The White House says it is a brief meeting,

but if it took an hour, if they were sitting with heads of state from 18

other nations and Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump were talking for an

hour, for more than two hours earlier in the day, that is an

interesting story. People would rightly want to know what they

discussed, I think. So far we have had no indication of what the

conversation was about, the White House says it was niceties but that

is a long time for chit-chat. What is the protocol? If Mr Trump is a

conversation with anyone for an hour, is there an obligation to fill

a sin? Traditionally we will get a readout of a conversation with a

foreign leader, every time Donald Trump picks up the phone, shortly

thereafter there will be a statement describing what they spoke about.

Rex Tillerson after the two plus our meeting at the G20 described what

they discussed, lengthy rendition of every topic and Donald Trump himself

talked about what they discussed. There was nothing about what

happened at this dinner, no release, no information. The factory did not

find out about it until after two weeks will raise suspicions about

what they were talking about. It is in a public setting, there were

heads of state and spouses from 18 other countries there. It could not

have been too details a conversation, you would think.

Stay with us, Anthony. Here's Stephen Sestanovich

from the US Council "Worst result of a meeting

like this: now the President thinks, 'No need to listen to others -I'm

the Putin expert.'" That might be a concern but we do

not know about Donald Trump's opinion.

isn't keen on the two leaders being alone.

Remember, he is the man who broke the story.

Because the national Security adviser was not there, the Secretary

of State, many people do not trust such Trump will get it right by

himself, that he will get played. First of all that the Russians will

have full and complete notes on the meeting and likely a tape since the

translator was there, the Americans don't, which makes Trump vulnerable.

Second that the Russians will get something from Trump which they

otherwise should not, because you do not have Trump being properly

advised by his capable team. Anthony, I don't remember anyone

expressing concerns about President Obama being left in the room with

anyone. Is this not just people upset that Trump is president being

patronising about his ability to handle conversation? That is

definitely part of it. Over the campaign, Hillary Clinton constantly

questioned Donald Trump's ability to conduct foreign policy, members of

the foreign policy establishment, Conservative members, signed a

letter saying they did not trust Donald Trump to run US foreign

policy. That second guess has continued to the first six months of

his presidency. But he is the president and well within rights to

sit down with the president of Russia and have a conversation if he

wants over dinner. Because the spotlight is show -- so sharp,

people want to know what they are talking about and there was so much

controversy about possible Russian influence on the US election and

possible Trump ties to Russia, the suspicion is built in and it will

come up whenever there is a meeting like this, particularly one that was

not disclosed immediately. Let's go to health care.

After Tuesday's collapse of the Republicans' plans to do away

with president Obama's health care system, he told Republican senators

that he's ready to sign a bill repealing Obamacare.

For seven years you promised the American people that you would

repeal ObamaCare. People are hurting. Inaction is not an option.

Frankly, I don't think we should leave town unless we have a health

insurance plan, unless we can give our people great health care.

Because we are close, we are very close.

The president says inaction is not a plan but that seems to be what is

happening? Just yesterday he said inaction was going to be his policy,

they would let ObamaCare fall apart and well can come to the table when

everything was in ruins, to come up with a new plan. That was a change

from earlier when he said he wanted a straight up repeal. And before

that he wanted repeal the -- and replace. There is a problem with

trying to get a Republican senators on board, they have been getting

mixed messages from the White House time and time again, it is difficult

to pin Donald Trump down and some Republican senators are worried that

if they stick with him they will -- he will change his mind again and

leave them hanging to drive. There is not an infinite amount of time

can be spent on health care, presumably, because every minute you

spend on this you are not spending on another policy you wish to

pursue? We are almost in August, they are talking about pushing back

their recess but lots of things Congress has to do not a major

pieces of legislation that are optional, like passing a budget,

passing appropriations to fund the government, a debt limit to raise in

order to continue to issue debt. They will all crowded major pieces

of legislation. The more time they spent on health care than us time

for tax reform. By next year, the mid-term elections will loom over

all the members of Congress and they will be more worried about saving

their jobs than about doing something big that could put them

right in the cross hairs for any sort of controversy or dislike

legislation that they had to attach their name to.

Great stuff as always, Anthony. Let's talk tomorrow. This is

relevant. Donald Trump was

the President Elect. "In addition to winning

the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular

vote if you deduct the millions Today a commission that he set up to

investigate had its first meeting - Bearing in mind there is no evidence

of widespread voter fraud, but we shall see what it manages to find.

During the six months Donald Trump's been in office, I've been showing

you as many of his tweets as I have clips of him on camera.

We look at them all the time to understand his thinking.

Rajini Vaidyanathan's been taking a look at his tweets tell us.

Twitter is a wonderful thing for me, I get the word out. He has been

dubbed the Twitter president. We know he loves to spell things out in

140 characters, but what is his online music service about the last

six months of his presidency? He has sent more than 940 tweets, he

is an early riser, typically sends them between 6am and 8am, an average

of almost six tweets per day. That is 85 times the number of news

conferences he has hosted. The two Donald Trump, that is modern-day

presidential. OK, go ahead. What does President

Trump tweet about the most? The highest number of tweets about the

economy, on the media are not far behind. This video is his most

shared tweets so far. He does not hate all media.

President Trump has sent more than 70 tweets about Fox News, usually to

publicise his upcoming appearances or praise the network's coverage. It

is a modern-day form of communication, especially when you

have tens of millions of people like I have.

His tweets often sends mixed messages that even his own staff

cannot decide. They speak for themselves. His comments and his

tweets speak for themselves. After saying he had a great meeting with

Angela Merkel, he criticised Germany's Nato contributions.

And look that is messaging on China, one minute he seemed to give up on

the idea of working with the country, only to tweet about an

excellent meeting with China days later.

President Trump recently suggested setting up a cyber Security unit

with the Russians, but it did not take long for him to retract the

idea. Should I keep the Twitter going on

at? Many of his supporters think he

should, for sure. We get it direct from him. You love the tweets?

Cofevfe is a great word explanation many wish he would stop treating,

including some in his own party. He has more than 33 million followers

and it does not look like he will stop any time soon.

We will be looking at a subject very close to Donald Trump's heart soon.

The Chinese and the US are having high-level trade talks, looking at

the fact that America buys an awful lot more than it sells to China. We

will speak to Michelle Fleury about that.

Ministers have announced plans to raise the state

pension age from 67 to 68, seven years earlier

Six million people will be affected by the change,

The Work and Pensions Secretary David Gauke told MPs the Government

wanted to meet the needs of an ageing population

without placing an unfair burden on the young.

This is about the Government taking responsible action in response to

growing demographic and fiscal pressures. That is why today I am

announcing the Government's intention to accept the key

recommendation of the Cridland review and increase the state

pension age from 67 to 68/2 years from 2037.

This brings forward the increased by seven years from its legislated date

of 2044/46 in line with the recommendation made by John Cridland

and following careful consideration of the evidence on life expectancy,

fairness and public finances. This is Outside Source live

from the BBC newsroom. and Vladimir Putin had a second,

undisclosed, meeting The White House has called

it perfectly normal. Some of the main stories from BBC

World Service. That will be in a moment. But now

with story that has dominated discussions in the UK.

It's been forced by the Government to reveal the salaries

of all of its broadcasters who earn more than ?150,000.

It turns out an awful lot of them are men.

And those stats are just the start of it.

Chris Evans earns between ?2.2 million and ?2.25 million

for his Radio 2 show - and other work.

The top paid female star is Claudia Winkleman.

She earns between ?450,000 and ?500,000 - a lot of money,

Again and again the issue of gender inequality plays out -

on Radio 4, on the News at Ten, on Newsnight, on Radio five Live,

on BBC Sport, on BBC Breakfast - the best paid people are men.

Eight news correspondents are on the list -

one, Laura Kuenssberg - is a woman.

"Theresa May slams the BBC for 'paying women less than men

Warns the BBC that she will be watching progress."

That came from the political correspondent of the Sun. The BBC

says it is making progress, it takes it seriously.

The BBC's Director General Tony Hall addressed the issue.

What I care most about, and I think we have to get much, much better, is

the gender Barents between men and women in our top talent. I think

we've made a lot of progress but nowhere near where I wanted to be,

by 2020 want to get to the point where it is equal between men and

women on the radio channels and television programmes as well. We

have made progress until the last three or four Mike Leigh years, the

last three anyway, 60% of the new hires or promotions we have done

have been women. You see that on the ten o'clock News, the today

Programme, sometimes verges presented by women, you see that on

Strictly and the new Doctor who. But we have much more to do and we are

determined to get a read. Cathy Newman presents on Channel 4 News

and she says in response to the disclosures... One of our stars,

Jane Garvey, who presents BBC Radio 4, says...

The gender pay gap is not the only part of what has been revealed that

is getting a lot of attention. Out of the top 96 names, only 12 people

were from a black, Asian or minority ethnic background.

Several of those high earners named in these disclosures have been

talking about it today. Here they are. What do I do? On

paper, absolutely nothing justifies that huge amount of money, if you

compare me with lots of people who do visibly... A doctor saves the

life of a child or a nurse comforts a dying

person. However, we operate in a

marketplace. I think I provide a very useful service, somebody has to

do the job of trying to hold power to account. A direct question, are

you embarrassed to pick up your paycheque? I just feel very lucky

every day, is the answer to that. Do you think you are overpaid? I don't

even really want to answer that. I think we are the ultimate public

company, therefore I think it is probably on balance right and proper

that people know what we are paid. Here's the analysis

of the BBC's media editor. The BBC did not want to do this,

they fought a really strong fight against the Government at the time

of the last charter renewal saying they should not be forced to

disclose names. They said that it would be inflationary and lead to

pay rises, they also said it would be a poacher 's' Charter, other

broadcasters would swoop in for the top BBC talent. If that does not

happen over the coming weeks a month than the Government will think that

the BBC made these arguments and it turns out they are wrong, and it is

visible but next year there was a transparency is good and healthy, it

is flushed out some major issues to be addressed, let's have more,

either lowering the threshold also people paid by independent

production company should be on the list. Based on conversations I have

had at the BBC, in Westminster and across the industry, I would say it

is the start of a pretty long ordeal for the corporation.

Much more online. Time for Outside Source business.

The US and Chinese trade chiefs are meeting in Washington

as we speak, as Trump's 100 day deadline for boosting trade

The US buys more from China than it sells to China.

Last year the imbalance in goods was $347 billion.

Let's find out why that matters, Michelle Fleury is live from New

York as usual. I guess I am not surprised to hear that imbalance,

because the Chinese can make things at a lower cost than the Americans?

And given the relative strength of the American economy, the size or

importance of consumers to economic growth in America. If you look at

the Trump administration they have talked about America first, at the

heart of that in many ways is a focus on trade, restoring

manufacturing in America, having things made in America. According to

the White as it is made in America week, they have held a variety of

events to highlight the fact. Against this backdrop you have the

leaders of the two largest economies in the world meeting to discuss a

range of issues, of course trade will be one of them. We are seeing

an administration willing to focus on trade deficit, some economists

disagree as to whether that is right to focus on or not. Given how

important the relationship is to both leaders, they will not want to

get too far into a fight over this, but issues remain.

From the Chinese side, did they have concerns about that imbalance or is

it a case of the bigger the balance the better? I think they are aware

of the politics or optics of this and are sensitive to that. Globally

China has been under pressure to do more to boost domestic consumption

so it is not, as some have called it in the past, the factory to the rest

of the world. Where it gets interesting is they export a small

amount of steel to the United States, the commerce Department is

investigating whether or not to impose tariffs, that is one

potential flash point. Thank you, I hope to speak to you tomorrow.

From January, businesses will be banned from charging fees

on transactions made by debit and credit card.

It follows a directive from the European Union to end

the charges often imposed by airlines, food delivery companies

For years consumers have been charged more

for using their credit or debit cards.

3% extra on flight B and 2% extra on Ryanair and Norwegian.

Apps such as Hungry House and Just Eat will add charges.

But from January such charges will be banned.

It is thanks to a European directive.

It is great that they will put an end to these,

and not just those ones, but American Express

It is further than the Government had to go so it is great

It does cost companies money to process payments.

5.5p for debit card payments according to 2016 figures,

Up until now some companies have passed significantly higher

costs on to consumers, including the DVLA, which charges

77% of all retail sales in the UK are made using card,

so it is the predominant way to pay, and therefore it is quite right that

consumers should not be charged for the privilege of paying

Surcharges will cease, but it will be open to firms

to recoup the costs they incur by other means.

The food sector got a little spicier today.

US group McCormick Co - it makes these condiments here -

is to buy the food business of British consumer goods giant

Reckitt owns the French's mustard brand among many others.

It's all part of McCormick's ambitions to expand globally.

I will let Samir Hussein explained. When you open your fridge, is a

teeming with all kinds of different condiments? Certainly our fridge at

home has several kinds of hot sauces, Master 's, ketchups and lots

of households are like that. That is really what McCormack is banking on,

the popularity of having condiments. It is using verse $4.2 billion

purchase as a way to expand their condiment empire globally. They have

been looking for an international company to be able to make this kind

of expansion. They approached another company and were rebuked

twice, now they have found success with Reckitt.

Now here is a report on how fake news is becoming a major issue in

the Kenyan election campaign. It's less than 24 days before

Kenyans had to the polls, and a survey released today says that fake

news about the general election has been widespread. The report says 90%

of Kenny 's suspect they have seen news that has been fake or

inaccurate about the general election. -- 90% of Kenyans. The

fake news varies from false reports about results of primary is and

nominations to false reports about public figures and politicians

dying. One of the most notable examples came from western Kenya,

where it was reported on leaflets made to look like one of the

nation's big publications that a member of the opposition had

infected Dann defected to the ruling party's side. It looks like the two

main reasons for producing fake news for financial or political gain.

Online lots of people looking for click bait, offline they are looking

to spread political propaganda. What can be done? The report authors

suggest that politicians need to reaffirm the value of mainstream

media and consumers need to be a lot more discerning about what they

consume. In a roundabout way it might be the

prevalence of fake news that makes people sit up and think about what

Dann whether what they watch, see or hear is true.

See you in a couple of minutes. Hello. If you have jointly over

recent evenings you will know we have been majoring on the effects of