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Donald Trump has taken a break from his holidays to say this. North

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Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be

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met with fire and fury. A no-confidence vote in South Africa

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ended like this. The vote of no-confidence in the president is

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accordingly negative. This is the eighth no-confidence

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motion the president has survived. Google has fired an employee

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who wrote a controversial memo suggesting fewer women work there,

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because of their Dodgy greenhouse gas data

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could threaten the Paris climate agreement, researchers have

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told the BBC. Air monitoring stations like this

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one have detected large quantities of gas that hasn't been recorded

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in official inventories. And if you want to get in touch,

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the hashtag is BBC OS. We are starting this addition in the

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United States. Take a listen to the reaction of Donald Trump here. North

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Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be

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met with fire and fury, like the world has never seen. He has been

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very threatening beyond a normal statement and, as I said, they will

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be met with fire, fury and, frankly, fire power, the likes of which this

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world has never seen before. Bissell begun in the last two years when a

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number of news outlets including the Washington Post began reporting that

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US intelligence officials believe that North Korea has successfully

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miniaturised nuclear warhead to fit into one of its missiles.

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We will go to Washington to speak to Jayne Bryant. This is a big story

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and you can see why the president is exercised about it.

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Yes, it is a big story and the speed at which North Korea has

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miniaturised warhead to fit into one of these missiles which we know can

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reach the United States. They had a successful test of an

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intercontinental ballistic missile in the last few weeks and that many

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experts say could reach Los Angeles, Denver and even Chicago, so it puts

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the US in a far more precarious position far more quickly than was

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expected. A lot of people thought this was inevitable but just not

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yet. We have not had confirmation from the Pentagon or any other US

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government agency that this report is true, but Donald Trump clearly

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has decided that it is. The reaction of Mr Trump, his talk

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of fire and fury is going to worry quite a few others, perhaps in the

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defence establishment. Well, this administration has been

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giving mixed messages on North Korea for quite a while. Rex Tillerson

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last week even suggested that talks might be on the table but that was

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then dismissed and Donald Trump has said that military action cannot be

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ruled out and there have been talks of regime change, but they are not

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united in what they think is the right way forward for dealing with

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this very real threat and that is a problem when you have the President

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then indulging in rhetoric like this, because nobody really knows

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what it means. But it sounds pretty awful and pretty dire and nobody

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knows what the response is going to be from North Korea and so this has

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reached a very precarious position indeed.

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I am curious about whether highly placed sources are really talking

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about the possibility of talks from North Korea and recognising how it

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has got to where it is. It is hard to take that course of action

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without being called soft. Indeed. The fact of the matter is

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that clearly the previous talks failed because North Korea has not

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been deterred from its nuclear ambitions and we are where we are

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now, so critics will say that the talks broke down ten years ago under

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the Clinton and Bush administrations could have paved the way for the

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situation that the US is now confronting. It is also very

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difficult to see what way forward the US has because none of the

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military options are good. North Korea could strike against South

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Korea and there are also some 28,000 US troops stationed in South Korea

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and so the ability for this crisis to escalate into something far worse

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is quite significant and a lot of Asian countries also prefer further

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engagement rather than military options for obvious reasons so it is

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very difficult at this point to see where this is going and how it will

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end. Thank you for bringing us up to

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date. Just two hours ago, he survived

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a motion of no-confidence Here's the speaker of the parliament

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announcing the result. The total votes are 384. The yes,

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177. And there were nine ab stanchions

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and therefore the vote of no-confidence in the President is

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accordingly negative. ANC! So the President survived the vote.

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You saw the jubilation inside the pros -- parliament but these are

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some things from outside. The president later

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addressed those crowds. I have just come to say

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thank you to all of you. Those comrades who are in Parliament

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who gave me their support from the membership

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and the supporters. They came in their numbers

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to demonstrate that the ANC is there, it is powerful,

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it is big, it is difficult I am sure you know that

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today the vote of no That may give the impression

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of a nation celebrating. But this is the eighth time that

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a no-confidence vote has been held This time the vote was held in

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secret amidst fears of intimidation. Earlier, we were seeing

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pictures like these. Here you can see a protest march in

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Cape Town this morning that was being led by the opposition parties.

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They were on their way to parliament here. Here they are gathered outside

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Parliament and making their feelings very clear. Not just Cape Town

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either, this is Pretoria. People were gathered and dancing in the

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streets of the city of Pretoria. They were also tried to make their

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point. They wanted him to go, but what happened is parliament, and

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this is the parliament chamber itself and here for two hours

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opposition parties in the ruling ANC traded barbs and insults and

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political debate in two hours before casting their ballots. There has

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been a whole team in South Africa watching this story and thinking

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about its implications. Clearly President Jacob Zuma after

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surviving this eighth no-confidence vote is now on his ninth life. There

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was no way he could be compromising now. He feels victorious, he never

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gives up. Remember, President Zuma stayed in prison for ten years on

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Robben Island with Nelson Mandela while fighting against white

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minority rule, so he does not give up easily. Most people see this as a

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loss for him, given what has happened with ANC MPs who voted with

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the opposition, but for himself he sees this as a victory. He is

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buoyant and he hopes to get to December. There are some rumours

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that he had offered in the caucus this morning, he had offered to

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resign, but there is no confirmation whether that is true or not. There

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will be a new attempt in Australia this week to revive a compulsory

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vote on the issue of gay marriage. It will be the second time that the

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ruling Conservative government has tried to push through the vote,

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having already been rejected by the country's upper house. It has also

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announced a back-up plan which is a non-compulsory postal vote. The

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opposition is in support of gay marriage but doesn't like I

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proposition. Weddings may be all about forming a

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union, but in Australia there are few political issues as divisive as

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same-sex marriage. Opinion polls suggest that public supports making

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it legal but for many years the politicians have disagreed over if

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and how that should happen. As I am sure you are aware, this ceremony is

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taking place under UK law... In the meantime, only a few couples, like

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an incitement, have been able to marry by exploiting loopholes in the

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law for foreign passport holders. Campaigners for same-sex marriage

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oppose a compulsory vote claiming it would give a voice to homophobia.

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Facing parliamentary defeat today the government announced an

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alternative, postal vote. Our preference is to have a compulsory

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attendance and legislation to that effect will come back before the

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Senate we hope this week. If that were to fail, the government

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believes that we have a legal and constitutional way forward to give

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the Australian people a say on whether or not the definition of

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marriage should be changed through non-legislated voluntary postal

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plebiscite. The results would not be binding and at a cost of 100 million

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US dollars the opponents have caused it -- called it a waste of money. B

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beauty really be problems with this. It is the weakest thing I have seen

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in a long time. We are doing an opinion poll on what is a basic

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human right. If you cannot show leadership there, you cannot lead

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the nation. For those holding out for a change in law it is hard to

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know what impact the vote will have. I am an eternal optimist and I like

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to think that one day we were live on an equal society right marry my

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partner FA wish. Government ministers say the vote could mean

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saying I do to same-sex marriage before the year is out but for those

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couple still waiting to exchange vows, the celebrations are muted.

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Google has fired an employee who wrote a controversial memo

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In it he said men had a higher drive for status than women did.

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We'll talk to our technology reporter Zoe Kleinman.

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I will chat about that our technology reporter. A man

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discovered with a pipe bomb in his hand luggage at Manchester Airport

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has been found guilty of having to explosives with intent of

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endangering life. The jury heard that Nadeem Mohammed,

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who's 43, wanted to board The device was made

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from the tube of a marker pen. Our Correspondent Dan

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Whitworth has the details. This case was all about

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Nadeem Muhammad, 43, from Bury. He wept in the dock

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at Manchester Crown Court when he was found guilty

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of possession of explosives with intent to endanger life

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when he tried to board a Ryanair jet He was found guilty of trying

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to carry a pipe bomb That plane was a Boeing 737 800

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and can carry up to 200 passengers and crew,

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so the impact of potentially exploding a device in the tight

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confines of that cabin There are serious questions

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over security here, This is Outside Source live

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from the BBC newsroom. Our lead story: Jacob Zuma has

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survived an eighth vote President Trump has said North

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Korean missiles will be met with fire and fury and power, the likes

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of which the world has not been seen.

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An 6.5 magnitude earthquake has killed at least five people

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and injured more than 60 in China's south-western province

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There are fears the number of fatalities could rise

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Iran, President Hassan Rahane has unveiled his new cabinet. It is all

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male. This is one of the most watched

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videos on our website. A woman has escaped serious injury

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after appearing to be pushed This is CCTV of the incident,

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which happened on Putney Internet giant Google has fired

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a male employee after he suggested that men were better suited for tech

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jobs than women. James Damore circulated an internal

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memo at the weekend criticising Google for creating a politically

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correct monoculture which prevented honest

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discussion of diversity. Google hit back in all-staff email

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saying Damore had crossed the line by advancing harmful gender

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stereotypes in our workplace. The BBC's Zoe Kleinman has been

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following the story. What happened was a guy called James

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Damore published a memo over the weekend in which he set out reasons

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why he felt the diversity policy that Google were perhaps not working

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and he felt that they needed more debate. He was very clear to say

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that he does not believe that diversity should be married but he

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feels that things have gone too far the other way and he said that men

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and women are biologically different and perhaps that makes men more,

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sort of, prone to pursue jobs in technology and leadership, because

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of the way they think and the way they operate, and he said that this

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is a debate that needs to be had. The memo went viral. As you can

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imagine, it caused a lot of outrage but he also got a lot of support

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from people who said it is absolutely right and we

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should be discussing this. How are we going about this, the wrong way?

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What is the situation Barack Obama how do we address the diversity Gap?

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He said the gender gap is not necessarily sexism and it is a

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conversation that she really wanted to have but it hasn't gone so well

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for him because he has lost his job over it and the Google chief

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executive said that what he wrote goes against the rules of conduct of

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the company so he is out and Google has a new vice president of

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diversity who also sent a memo saying these views are unacceptable,

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so it has cost him his job, but it has sort of once again highlighted

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how much the tech sector is struggling with this diversity issue

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in which the statistics of women working in Tech are poor, even in

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the tech giants. If you look at these statistics of companies like

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Google, Facebook, Amazon, and the Tech jobs, you are looking at ten or

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20% women, it is very unbalanced and has been for a long time. Lots of

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companies are throwing a lot of money at this with a lot of

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initiatives and outreach programmes but it doesn't seem to shift things

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as dramatically as people hoped. The fact that he has been sacked,

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and perhaps it was inevitable given how viral the memo went, has that

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become a political debate in itself because his whole issue was that we

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are not allowed to have a healthy debate about diversity and this

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shows that. Exactly that, a lot of people stood

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up to him and said how can Google promised to promote free speech when

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one of its own employees as a contented to ignite that debate and

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been fired and that does not promote free speech at all, it just is

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getting rid of the viewpoint that Google doesn't like. He says he has

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heard from a lot of people and a lot of staff members who thank him for

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saying this but they do not feel confident about voicing support

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publicly because they are worried about repercussions. It is

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interesting to note that he has had a couple of job offers, including

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from Wikileaks. Julian Assange tweeted that he would be delighted

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to have him as a member of staff. A BBC investigation has revealed

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many countries around the world are under-reporting how much

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greenhouse gases they're emitting One example highlighted

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was the Jungfraujoch Swiss As you can see, the station sits

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close to the Italian border. Between 2008 and 2010,

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this station recorded levels of a gas called HFC-23 coming

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from a location in northern Italy. The gas is nearly 15,000 times more

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warming to the atmosphere than CO2. Scientists at the station estimated

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60-80 tonnes of the gas was being emitted from the location

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in Italy each year. Italy's official records submitted

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to the UN were well below that The BBC's Matt Mcgrath carried out

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the investigation and I spoke with him earlier about the sheer

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difficulty of collecting reliable The big difficulty here is the

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amount of data that is out there and how difficult a problem this is

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today because there are huge amounts of gases come from all sorts of

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sources, man-made and natural, and scientists struggle at times to

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quantify those gases and this is an even bigger problem in the

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developing countries than it is in the richer world where we have been

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doing it for 20 years. So in countries like Russia and

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China there is reluctance to allow international scientists to take

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data? All of these countries have a

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history of being very cautious about data and we saw in our story how

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Russian scientists on the Russian government wants to see all the data

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that the German scientist that are monitoring Siberia, they want to see

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at first I may have to put it on a CD-ROM so they give it to the

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government before they can take it out the country so this secrecy,

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this question of keeping information quiet and private goes against the

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spirit of the Paris Climate Accord and tan makes it a lot more

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difficult to achieve those goals if everyone holds back the real story

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in the real information. This is your investigation and you

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have been digging into these data gaps, but isn't it about by a

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political gift to those who don't this big effort to tackle

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climate change? In some ways it does but in some

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ways it will redouble the efforts of politicians to try and make sense of

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this. The big difficulty here is that you have 150 new countries who

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signed up under the Paris Climate Accord who need to do boring stuff

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like accounting for all of their emissions and they don't have these

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people the technology or the money and they were counted on big

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countries like the United States and others to help with that in those

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countries have massive uncertainties in their emissions and the big

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problem in all of that is ultimately when we sit down and work out who

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was doing what and how much stuff is being emitted, if we can't really

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verify and know exactly what is coming out, we really don't know

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where we are and how we are doing, and how much progress we're making,

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and that is a real difficulty this erroneous accounting.

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You mentioned America and Donald Trump wants to pull the US out of

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the agreement but there was another development in the New York Times

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today. Give us an idea of what it says about climate change and

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America. This report is essentially a view

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from the scientists of America, the leading federal scientists from

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federal offices, they all say climate change is real and man-made

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and having an effect in the United States right now and temperatures

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are going up by more than they have in the last 1500 years so it is a

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real challenge to the president who has expressed a lot of uncertainty

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about this and basically said that the science is divided but the

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scientists say that they are not. And you can find more on Matt's

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investigation on the BBC website. Now for some business news. We have

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heard that Jacob Zuma has survived another no-confidence vote but where

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does that leave businesses and the economy in South Africa? Well, in

:22:51.:22:55.

recession. With an unemployment rate of almost 28%. Here is an

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entrepreneur and investor from the South African version of Dragon 's

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Den. If there is a single failing from me that we have seen particular

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this president it is that under his watch we have seen unemployment go

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up and poverty levels rise and we have seen access to nutrition and

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health care drop, said those have been very serious issues are not the

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least of which two add onto that has in truth been that our education

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system is in tatters and there was a lot that is going right but you

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cannot argue that those kind of unemployment levels do not bode well

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for social stability and as a result you are seeing some social

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instability. Service delivery protests, etc, and that makes it

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difficult to trade. Here is a funny story from San Francisco. Not far

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from the golden Gate Bridge. What we have to show you is about one of the

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most famous and exclusive and wealthy communities on the west

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coast. I wanted to bring up this picture, it looks gorgeous and very

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special and she she. Apparently the residents here did not pay their

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taxes so someone bought the street from under them. I think we can now

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go and talk to Samir Hussein. Tell us more about this. Well, just when

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you thought real estate cannot get any more expensive in some of the

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big American cities, the street that you are literally living on Camby

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bought from right under your feet and that is what happened.

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Apparently the business taxes were not paid for this particular street

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and as a result, to try and recoup the lost costs San Francisco held an

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auction and in that auction two real estate investors scooped up the

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property sight unseen for $90,000. That actually happened about two

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years ago and now fast forward to now when some of these real estate

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representatives, who were representing them, had gone to talk

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to some of the neighbours, that is when the neighbours really caught

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wind of the fact that their street was actually sold. I guess that

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means the new owners can rent it back to them and make a lot of

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money. Exactly. Let us say, there are 120 parking spots on this

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street, they can now charge for those parking spots and they can

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charge for use of any of the parks or public areas around there. Of

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course, the neighbourhood association is contesting this, and

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they want the sale to be rescinded because they didn't know about it

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and fundamentally about the taxes, and we wanted to know how much they

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actually owed. $994. For that they lost their street. Thank you for

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joining us bringing us that mini saga there. Thank you very much and

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with us here. We have a lot more to come in the next edition.

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Hello. Plenty happening across the globe in terms of weather but we

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start off in Central America and Mexico where we are talking a

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tropical

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