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Hello, I'm Philippa Thomas, this is Outside Source.

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Our top story comes yet again from Washington.

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Donald Trump has said that statements on North Korea perhaps

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haven't been tough enough - and that the country should be very,

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very nervous if it does anything to the United States.

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We are back to 100% by our military, we are backed by everybody.

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This is the North Korean state broadcaster explaining in detail how

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the country proposes to launch missiles near the US

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territory of Guam - in a matter of days.

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Whether or not that's actually possible -

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North Korea certainly has the world's attention -

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we'll bring you reaction from Guam, South Korea, and the United States.

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We'll be live in Havana, where our correspondent will explain

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a mysterious 'incident' that's resulted in two Cuban diplomats

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Still no official result from the Kenyan election.

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The opposition says the results of the presidential

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poll have been rigged - but international observers say

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And to get in touch - the hashtag is BBC OS.

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Let's begin with the intensifying war of words between

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In the last few minutes Donald Trump has spoken again about the issue.

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Let us show you our update. Saying North Korea should be very, very

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nervous about doing anything to the United States. He also said we will

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always consider negotiations. He gave a news conference. But let's

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hear what he has to say. It's the first time they heard

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it like they heard it. Frankly the people who

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are questioning that They have been doing this to our

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country for many years and it's about time somebody stuck up

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for the people of this country If anything, maybe that statement

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was not tough enough. We are backed 100% by our

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military, by everybody. I have noticed many senators

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and others today came out very much If anything, that statement may

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not be tough enough. What could be tougher than fire and

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fury? Is one of the options being

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considered a preventive strike? I'm not like the other

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administration, "we are going I can tell you what they have been

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doing and what they have been We always consider

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negotiation, but we have been Look at Clinton, he was

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weak and ineffective. He did not even want

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to talk about it. All this comes after Pyongyang

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announced it had a plan to fire as many as four missiles

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towards the US territory. It happened on the

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country's state media. TRANSLATION: The Hwasong-12

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rocket will be launched and will cross the sky above Japan,

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flying 3356 kilometres for 1065 seconds before hitting

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the waters 30 to 40 North Korea says the plan has been

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sent to leader Kim Jong Un for approval and could be

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finalised within days. To remind you, the island of Guam

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sits in the Pacific Ocean, roughly three and a half

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thousand kilometres away from the Korean Peninsula and it's

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being singled out as a potential target for Pyongyang because it's

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home to both a US navy The BBC's Rupert Wingfield

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Hayes is in Guam. He's been gauging

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reaction among locals. This behind me is the gate to

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Andersen Air Force Base here in Guam. This is a place that North

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Korea really does not like. Anderson is home to a fleet of B-1s, those

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big swing wing bombers. Every time North Korea does something the US

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president does not lie, he sends some of his B-1s from here to fly

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out to the Korean peninsula and along the Dominika rises on. He is

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really saying to the North Korean regime, if you do not do what the

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American want, ie give up your nuclear weapons programme, then this

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is what you will get. And this is where will come from. If North

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Korea's aim is to scare people, well, have a look. It does not seem

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to be working. Suddenly people are not fleeing the beaches for the

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airport. Most people here, locals and tourists, think this is more of

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North Korea's normal bluster. But the threat against Guam is very

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specific. That has a few people worried, that may just maybe, Kim

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Jong-un is planning some sort of action to fire one or more missiles

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over Japan in this direction. Not to strike one, but you hit close by. If

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you did do that, it is possible the mood here would change.

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So the feeling among many in Guam is that this is all just rhetoric.

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What about the country that's most worried about being

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Today South Korea has responded to the latest aggressive rhetoric.

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TRANSLATION: Weird knowledge the security situation on the Korean

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peninsula is getting more serious duty North Korea's continued

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provocation or threats. The National Security Council committee strongly

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urges North Korea to stop all actions that could further escalate

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tensions on the peninsula. Well we brought you those

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new lines on Donald Trump Let's go back to Washington.

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Anthony, what did you make of what John said? Write off the bat he

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leaned into his earlier comments. -- what did you make of what Trump

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said? Saying maybe he did not go far enough, when pressed by reporters

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saying you will see, that line was interesting. He did leave the door

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open to negotiation, he said he would consider it. But you notice he

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pointed out that all his predecessors had been talk talk, and

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he was going to do something about it. I think the most interesting

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part of this came towards the end, when he talked about China. China is

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pivotal in the negotiations. China has a lot of influence over North

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Korea, and Donald Trump said China needs to do more. He thinks they

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will do more, and he went on to say that he does have issues with

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Chinese US trade with China, but perhaps he would not be as concerned

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about the trade issue if China did something with North Korea. In

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effect, it seemed like he was attempting to link US economic

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relations with China with China's cooperation in addressing North

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Korea. That was something we have not hold a whole lot of before and I

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thought it was an interesting point. That is interesting. It has been a

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bit of a seesaw in Donald Trump's view of China and the Chinese

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president, from my great pal in Florida to warnings issued over

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twitter. Exactly, even going back to the campaign, China was a regular

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target of Donald Trump's fire as he campaigned for the Republican

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nomination, then for president. Criticising their trade policy and

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as you mentioned, he had a meeting down in Florida. That meeting, they

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seemed to be pretty positive, as though Chinese relations were going

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to be a little better than we thought under the Trump

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administration. Followed that up with a few more swipes at China,

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then he managed to get Chinese government on board with these new

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economic sanctions that the UN and Security Council imposed. I think

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Donald Trump recognises that China is the linchpin to this issue. He is

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trying his own unique brand of negotiations, been tough at times,

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then being conciliatory, to try to coax China into further action. I

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guess we will see if this type of strategy, not something we have seen

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from past presidents, if it works. Good to talk to you as always.

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The National Crime Agency says modern slavery and people

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trafficking in the UK is a far larger problem than

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More than 300 police operations are currently targeting

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Aurel is one of the victims who has dared to speak out.

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It's just horrible, I tell you, it's just horrible.

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Even now, I just feel like my heart is start beating a little bit.

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Men women and children are all victims, but they are struggling to

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fight back as new leads the merge all the time from the criminal

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underworld. People as young as 13 and 14 being sexually exploited and

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falls to engage in prostitution, that should worry us all. This is a

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growing problem for which we think there is a shared responsibility

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across society in the UK. Passports are taken, they are forced to work

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against their will, they are held in squalid conditions. The traffic

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controls their finances, their movement. Only I spoke to prominent

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human rights lawyer cherie Blair. She has long campaigned on this

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issue and her law firm advises people on how to comply with the

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most recent legislation, the modern slavery act of 2015. It is

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surprising, where these people can turn up. It could be the people who

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are picking strawberries in the fields if you are in a rural area,

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it could be the girl who is doing your nails in the male barber does

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not speak very good English and seems very shy and frightened to

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speak. It could be the guy washing your car in these hand car wash

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places. Of course, the sex industry is an industry where there are very

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many such people. But it is not just people you might

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encounter in the streets, it is is about the goods we may buy or where

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they may have come from. It might seem strange to some of our viewers

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were talking about the UK, a developed country, sees itself as

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progressive, get this problem is still pretty pervasive it seems. As

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long as there is one person in slavery, that is a problem. The

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statistics say the many estimate about 13,000 people in slavery here

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in the UK. Of course, today the MCA have said the problem was much

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bigger than they first feared. The National crime agency. Yes, it's

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been very interesting, in 2015 we passed the modern slavery act. In

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that year, the number of prosecutions for slavery related

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offences was 12. The following year, it had gone up 51 prosecutions,

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making 63 in all. This year, we have had this report saying police

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actively looking into 300 cases. You satisfied there are the tools to

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prosecute and bring to justice? That there are the tools to prosecute,

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definitely. We do not have an array of offences and we have seen people

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in the UK be prosecuted, one of the first prosecutions was a couple from

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Nigeria who had brought with them a domestic servant. And essentially

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treated her badly, beat her, did not let her go out, worked out all the

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hours of the day. They were prosecuted successfully for offences

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against... Of slavery. We do have the legal tools. Whether we have the

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resources and the knowledge to actually identify people who are

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living in slavery is another question. That is I think what the

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report today was highlighting, that it is a bigger problem than the

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police imagined. They are going to need to devote more resources to it.

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You talk about specialist resources then, because by definition, these

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are people who often do not speak English, they are in the shadows. It

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is hard to get to them, to find them in the first place. Very much so. In

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today's interconnected world though, it's hard to keep something

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completely isolated. It is about knowing the science, looking for the

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signs, neighbours seeing strange activities in the street. Customers

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going to the nail bar, noticing that maybe the girls are very subdued, if

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they cannot speak English very well, seem to be lost in our country.

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Maybe asking a bit more about where these people come from, and where do

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they go home to tonight? Cherie Blair, are you saying to your fellow

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Britons, don't be too complacent about the situation in which other

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people find themselves? They are working -- their working

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environment. They could be witnessing modern day

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slavery. Absolutely. There is no room for complacency. Sometimes as

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Brits we don't like to be too nosy and pry into other peoples business,

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but in this case, I think we are lazy enough. The human rights lawyer

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cherie Blair. -- in this case, I think we are not nosy enough.

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Next - this may sound like a film script but it's a real

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Washington has expelled two Cuban diplomats after US embassy

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staff in Havana suffered mysterious physical symptoms.

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Some reports are suggesting that this refers to hearing loss -

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which could, possibly, be related to the use

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But it's all very unclear - as you'll see from this clip from

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We take this very seriously. This incident. That is what we are

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calling in. We do not know exactly what... Since 2016, you don't know

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what this incident is? What this requires is providing medical

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examinations to these people. Initially, when they started

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reporting what I will just call symptoms, it took time to figure out

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what it was. This is still ongoing. Let's go to Will Grant,

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who is in Havana for us. Here is his take. It sounds like a

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plot twist straight from the pages of the Finance Cold War spy novels,

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rather than relations between the US and Cuba in 2017. But this latest

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episode does appear to show that ties have taken a turn for the

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strange. Let's go over what we know. The State Department expelled to

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Cuban diplomats, they are not persona non grata but they were

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asked to leave Washington after a series of unexplained incidents led

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to deafness in a number of staff of the US embassy here in her van. It

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is believed that deafness, that temporary perhaps severe loss of

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hearing in those members of staff came about because sonic devices

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were placed either inside or around their homes. It is not yet clear,

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and the State Department are not commenting on how those devices came

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to be in place. You put them now, who they are blaming for it, all

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they are saying at this stage is that a number of their staff

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received treatment and we know have left the island. It is a unique

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twist in this most convoluted of relationships. And one that does

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nothing to help ties under President Trump, ties that one just a few

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months ago, warmer than ever. Now beginning to fray.

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Stay with us on Outside Source - after the break...

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First Disney, now Facebook wants to woo online viewers.

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Norfolk police have appealed for people to come forward in regards to

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the death of Peter Wright, who died walking his dog in Norfolk on

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Saturday. A white male of slim build and pale skin with grey or white

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hair which is balding on top. It is believed he was wearing heavy rimmed

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glasses and light-coloured trousers. He was seen in the street changing

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into a white T-shirt. Secondly, a white male with a tanned complexion,

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aged 25 to 30 years of age. Between 5'9" tall and 5'11" tall, thirdly a

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white male aged 30 to 50 years of age, of medium build and wearing

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dark coloured clothing. He was seen walking without a dog in the

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northern area of the heath. This is Outside Source live

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from the BBC newsroom. Donald Trump has said statements

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on North Korea might not have Meanwhile, North Korea is claiming

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it could be ready to fire four missiles near the US territory

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of Guam in a matter of days. Back to Kenya - where election

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ballots are still being counted- and the main opposition candidate

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is claiming he has won the presidential election -

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despite the preliminary official Here is he is - Raila Odinga -

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and he wants to be declared the winner of Tuesday's presidential

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poll. Here's the spokesman

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for his opposition coalition. We have now received further

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information from confidential sources. The results contained in

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the database, the data which confirms the results of the

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presidential election. Shows that the two leading candidates obtained

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the following votes. Raila Odinga, 8 million and 41,000, 760. Uhuru

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Kenyatta, 7,000,750 5400 and 28 votes.

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Election commission officials are standing by their system,

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and the electronic results revealed so far have put this man -

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the current President Uhuru Kenyatta- ahead with a clear lead.

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What's more international observers- who are in the country

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for the election- say the polls were conducted in a transparent

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Here's one of them - former US Secretary

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We are concluding that the ie see, the election commission has put in

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place a process that can provide for the guarantee of the integrity of

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the selection. If you follow the rules, and they are doing now, you

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can get an accounting for each and every polling station, and for an

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accurate count as to who won and lost. We believe this system can be

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accountable. It is accountable, so far. If every step is followed, if

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somebody monkeyed with it, one will be able to tell. Trust in the

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process going forward. That is the key.

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Let's talk to our correspondent in Nairobi. You have spoken to the head

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of the Electoral Commission. I spoke to him a short while ago and asked

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him about this allegation. And the demands by the opposition coalition

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that he declares Raila Odinga the president of Kenya. He said that

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they are an independent body and it is only the Electoral Commission

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that is mandated by law to make that declaration. They are going to pace

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their decision on the results they have collected from polling stations

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across the country. The process of getting the result is underway, they

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are validating the results. He also addressed issues of hacking,

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allegations of hacking into the results transmission system. He says

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that system is very crucial and has not been hacked into, there have

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been no attempts to hack into it. But there were attempts into other

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servers that are not related to the transmission system. He says they

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believe the results, the results that have been streaming in, are

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credible and once they are done with the validation process, only then

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will he declared a result. We can see behind you that there are pieces

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of paper being passed around, I presume votes being counted a

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validated. Could be a few days yet? It seems we are drawing closer to

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that announcement. We have had the vast majority of papers, the forms,

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coming in from polling stations. They are now here, awaiting the

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final batch. Tomorrow morning, once they have those and have them

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validated, they can make that announcement. It is possible

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tomorrow or maybe shortly afterwards. Thanks very much for

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bringing us up to date from Nairobi. Time now for Outside Source business

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and we have seen a flurry of activity in streaming this week.

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Yesterday we told you about Disney's plans to entertain its customers

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direct, now Facebook has confirmed it is to offer dedicated video, so

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completing a course against YouTube and the television networks. I think

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we can now go to New York and get more from Michelle. Tell us more

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about these plans. Hide. We knew Facebook already had been dabbling

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in the world of video, there is for example Facebook life, where users

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can broadcast live. The BBC often those broadcasts live on Facebook.

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What we are seeing is Mark Milligan bourguignon said on the path that

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mobile is very important to the company now going forward, saying

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video is going to be crucial to the company. -- what we are seeing is

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Mark Zucker Burke. This is the result. There's a new tab on the

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Facebook page will you see something called watch. Under that you can

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watch original programming. In some cases, Facebook has paid for that

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programming. In other cases, the idea is much like YouTube which is

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offered by alphabet, the parent company of Google, people can upload

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their own videos. In future they will be able to get money from it in

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sharing of ad revenue that Facebook generates. The question for many

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people is how interesting is this programme going to be? Are we

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talking about must watch TV on a Friday night? Perhaps not. Certainly

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there is a market there to be developed, we have seen that with

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YouTube. The question is how big it will ultimately be for the company.

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Mark Zuckerberg always wants to change the experience, doesn't it,

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Michelle. An edible be a lot about social viewing, getting together in

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groups online. That idea of watching TV together? For every programming,

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every programme that is on them, the idea is that there is also attached

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to it a page where people can comment, interact, so you are right.

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That very idea behind Facebook, the social aspect is crucial. They want

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people to talk around the programme, whether it is live while they are

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watching it or afterwards. The other interesting thing is there is also

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an aspect that shows what your friends are watching, so in case

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maybe your friends have things in common, you might see what they are

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seeing. There is that opportunity to comment there as well. It is

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definitely meant to not necessarily emulates traditional TV viewing

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habits, but the question is how much money is there to be made in this

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question we have seen YouTube stars come out, is it enough to sustain

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people are mad? That is a question. That is the bit people are not

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entirely sure about. -- is it enough to sustain people? Thank you very

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