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Hello, I'm Ros Atkins,

this is Outside Source.

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Rupert Murdoch's media empire has

just got a lot smaller.

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Walt Disney's has got much bigger.

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It's spending over $50 bilion

on most of 21st Century Fox.

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Here's why.

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After some musing, there seemed to

me there might

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After some musing, there seemed to

me there might be an opportunity to

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put our companies together and

create something that's even better

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than the two that was separate

companies.

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Theresa May attends a crucial Brexit

summit in Brussels saying she's

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disappointed after last

night's parliamentary defeat.

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A huge development for

internet users in the US -

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net neutrality is coming to an end.

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Good for business or bad for equal

world depending on who you ask.

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And remember Hurricane Harvey

that battered Texas?

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Well guess how much water it

actually produced...

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We'll reveal all from that

from a major scientific

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gathering in New Orleans.

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For more than 50 years

Rupert Murdoch's media

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empire has got bigger -

today all that changed.

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Walt Disney, led by Bob Iger,

is buying the bulk of

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Mr Murdoch's 21st Century Fox.

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The price is $52.4 billion.

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For that Disney gets

a 39% stake in Sky

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and 20th Century Fox film studio.

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Not everything's included.

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Fox News and Fox Sports aren't,

they'll become a new company.

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Here's Bob Iger on how

the deal got done.

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I had a lot of respect for Rupert

Murdoch and what he was able to

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build over the years. He and I would

musing about the industry and the

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need to reach consumers in the way I

described and the disruptive forces

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we broke witnessed in our time in

this business. After some musing it

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seemed to me there might be an

opportunity to put our companies

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together and create something that

even bigger than the two that was

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separate companies.

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Next the BBC's Media Editor Amol

Rajan, on why the timing is right

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for Disney and Rupert Murdoch.

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There is a revolution going on in

media where people want to watch

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something at a specific time in a

specific place. You can watch where

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you like, when you like and pretty

much what you like. Disney say they

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want even more eyeballs, more

content and scale if we want to

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compete with the big players, apple,

Netflix, Amazon and Google. As he

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would say, it is a humble day in

what has been a not very humble

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life.

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As you heard from Amol there,

Disney wants to be able to allow

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people to watch what they want,

when they want.

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This is Fox's on demand

Hulu service.

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You can see it saying here, all your

TV in one place.

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It was a huge reason

this deal happened.

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Disney wants it to take on Netflix.

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Perhaps Disney's decision is easier

to understand than Rupert Murdoch's.

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Andrew Neil is a top

BBC News presenter.

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Andrew's also edited

Mr Murdoch's Sunday Times

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and he helped him to set up Sky

Television.

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Here's his reaction.

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The deal is remarkable because it

represents the end of Rupert

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Murdoch's quest to build a Murdoch

dynasty. He has been trying to do

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that for 40 years. I used to sit

with him in restaurants in London in

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the mid-19 80s and he talked about a

Murdoch dynasty, putting his

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children into key positions. Letting

them fight for the top position and

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whoever wins would take over and the

Murdoch men would go on for ever.

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Here, he is unbundling the Empire

and the dynastic ambitions have

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gone.

Here is a perspective from the

US.

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I don't think you will see any media

change, but what's clear is

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consumers are going to have expanded

options. Having two of the Premier

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collections of assets that will be

available to them. I think this is

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all about adapting to help consumers

are accessing content, going away

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from traditional to margin

platforms. I think Disney will be in

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one of the best position is ever to

be able to adapt, provide consumers

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with expanded choices and

potentially at cheaper prices

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because it is all about going from

the bundle to the cheaper

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alternatives and this is what

Netflix and others have been doing

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so well.

It is a measure of the

influence number power of Netflix

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and Amazon and a different degree,

Facebook that these two giants have

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decided to join forces?

That is

exactly right. It is all about scale

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and the ships in the media landscape

being so fast that companies like

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Disney are forced to adapt. You are

forced to think about the leveraged

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you can have. Whether it is the

distributors distributing the

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content, or the Internet companies

aggregating the content. What you

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have here is a plague that the

scale. The big EU gets, the more you

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are able spend on content across a

host of platforms and Disney is the

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best at doing that in the entire

industry.

The practicalities, how

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long does it take for a deal like

this to get approved and to go

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through?

Companies have talked about

12 to 18 months, but the one factor

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that is out there is how the BSkyB

deal will be approved. They are

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talking about the first half of next

year. This deal doesn't depend on

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but approval, but I suspect the

regulator in the US industry will be

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scrutinising very closely to have

two very large studios combine with

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sports from Fox and I believe this

deal has a decent chance of passing

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the regulatory process with

conditions attached.

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The pace of the Brexit

story is quite something.

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Last week, we had that deal to take

the talks to the next phase.

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Last night, Theresa May was defeated

in a key Brexit vote in Westminster,

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because of a rebellion

in her own party.

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Now the Prime Minister

is in Brussels for a working dinner.

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According to a senior

government official,

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she will tell EU leaders "That

reaching the agreement on phase one

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has required give and take on both

sides but a fair outcome has been

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achieved" and will urge them

to rubber stamp the deal.

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That will almost certainly

happen tomorrow.

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Allowing talks to move

on importantly to trade.

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Which both sides want, according

to Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

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What is necessary is we put the

handshake of last Friday into

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legally binding text. And into

Article 50 text as soon as possible

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on the exit bill and the border

issue.

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The Prime Minister's authority

took a hit in the House

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of Commons last night.

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She's opposed an amendment that

requires full parliamentary

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scrutiny of the final Brexit deal,

but it got through with the help

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of rebels from her own party.

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If you ask Jeremy Corbyn, he will

say it is a humiliating loss. Ask

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the Prime Minister, you get a

different answer.

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We have 135 out of 36 votes on the

EU withdrawal bill and it is making

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good progress in the House of

Commons and that means we are on

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course to deliver, as according to

the vote of the British people, to

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leave the European Union.

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What we can agree on is that this

amendment applies yet more time

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pressure on these talks.

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Britain will leave

the EU in March 2019.

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That means a deal needs to be ready

by Autumn of next year.

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That's because it'll come

under scrutiny from not

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just the UK parliament,

but also the 27 other national

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parliaments in the EU.

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As I say time is tight.

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Don't take my word for it,

this is Luxembourg's Prime Minister.

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It is the second time UK citizens

want a vote, the referendum and now

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a true vote in Westminster to decide

the agenda of the European Union.

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This isn't good for Theresa May

because the agenda will not move.

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Soon as she negotiate something she

will have to go back to London to

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get approval from the Parliament and

this is not making her life easier.

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It just makes it complicated for the

UK Government.

We will be live in

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Brussels in a moment.

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A number of ways to get analysis

of what's happening from the BBC.

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One is to download the Brexitcast

podcast, which is in danger

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of becoming a runaway success.

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One of the most popular audio

podcasts in the UK now.

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Latest one has just been uploaded,

features Tim Shipman,

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political editor of the Sunday

Times.

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We can talk to Kevin

Connolly, in Brussels.

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Kevin, we were in touch earlier

because you sent a useful briefing

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note about how we should mention

trade in the context of phase two.

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Perhaps you could share your advice

with our viewers?

I will spare them

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the details, but it is an

interesting point. Because

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everything now is about what happens

in phase two. Phase one, everyone

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agrees is pretty much over. We just

need to get back confirmed tomorrow,

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but we know what will happen. They

will have been deemed to have passed

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the point of sufficient progress. Do

trade talks begin immediately? We

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don't think they do. First, there is

a period of transition talks which

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is about creating a two-year cushion

immediately after Brexit soap

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written doesn't crash out when it

ceases to be a full member of the

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EU. In parallel, you have to talk

about future issues. Technically,

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legally, you can only have trade

talks with somebody who is a third

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party. Next year, the UK will be in

the area peen union but will want to

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talk about trade. We think it should

be called talks about a future

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relationship. Part of that wonky,

legalistic reason, but also because

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Theresa May will use the argument

that this is so much more than trade

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and money. It will be about defence

and security cooperation. They are

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areas the UK feels it has very

strong cards to play in the future

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conversation. He will have to look

at the future relationship in the

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round. Certainly trade of course,

but other stuff as well and no trade

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deal between the EU and the UK into

the UK is, what's known in

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international legal tarns, is a

third party, a separate entity.

It

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was interesting listening to the

premise of Luxembourg and their

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concern about the defeat in the

Commons last night and Theresa May's

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ability to sell any deal from

Brussels to those in Westminster.

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They almost look to help her out at

times, in this situation?

That has

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been the noteworthy thing. A lot of

the time, in the British media and

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in British politics, the

relationship between London and

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Brussels is pitched in adversarial

terms. But the last couple of weeks,

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quite a lot of senior European

politicians have sounded strikingly

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supportive of Theresa May. That is

because they are worried if she were

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to wobble or leave office, the whole

business of Brexit would be reset to

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zero and there would be no chance on

getting it done on time. So there

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are practical reasons from the

European point of view to support

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Theresa May. Some politicians look

at that result in Westminster last

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night and worry. But the Irish Prime

Minister, he said Aida minority

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government, everybody knows

Parliament will be difficult. People

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are aware of the tight arithmetic at

Westminster. Some are inclined to

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think it is the rough and tumble

politics and things can work out OK.

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That is the view of Theresa May

herself.

A quick word about Phase

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one, that continues?

Yes, what we

are saying on those celebrated Phase

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one issues, the Irish border,

Citizens rights and a financial

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settlement, sufficient progress has

been made to allow the talks to go

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on. It doesn't mean they fixed

finalise, but plenty of talking

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about all of those issues and the

Irish border, not the first time the

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Irish question has been a big issue

in politics, but the Irish border,

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as always, will take some fixing.

Kevin, thank you.

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Let's turn back to the US.

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If you use the internet,

there's been a moment of the utmost

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significance in the US.

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Regulators are changing

the rules that control how

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the internet is provided.

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This is the issue known

as net neutrality.

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At its heart is the principle that

companies like Comcast

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and Verizon in the US,

or BT and Sky in the UK - must treat

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all internet traffic equally.

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So companies can't pay for their

websites or services to be faster.

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And there's been a major campaign

to keep things that way.

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This is an open letter

to the US regulator.

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It was signed by guys like Vint Cerf

and Sir Tim Berners-Lee who helped

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create the internet.

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Along with big names like Apple's

co-founder Steve Wozniak.

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But the chairman of the Federal

Communications Commission,

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this man Ajit Pai, is not convinced.

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He says removing government

regulation will boost innovation.

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He's also said "the hysteria has

reached a pitch which is completely

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disproportionate to the facts."

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Yogita Limaye has the

latest from Washington.

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Just a couple of hours ago in the

building behind me, there was a vote

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and three people were for repealing

these rules and two people against.

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What has happened is regulation

which ensured Internet service

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providers in America could not

charge different prices for

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different websites, but regulation

has been removed. This is not a rule

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that needs to be passed by Congress,

said it could come into effect. But

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we have had protesters outside this

building all day and many groups

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have said they will go to court

against this decision and try to

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stall it. Essentially, what can

happen from now on, and Internet

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service provider could go to a

web-based business and pay them a

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certain amount of money so they

could provide that particular

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website or that particular service

at a faster speed. And those who

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refuse to pay them, that service

could be provided at a slower speed.

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As part daily-macro far as the

customer is concerned, we will give

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you this website for a particular

price. If you want more, you have to

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pay more. That is what could happen.

But Internet service providers here

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in America, these companies have

said they are not against the

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principles of net neutrality, but

they are not inclined to slow down

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access to a website or deny access

to it completely, they say what has

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happened, the regulations that have

been removed will help them invest

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more in the sector and help them

connect to roll roll and more remote

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parts of America.

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Stay with us on Outside

Source, still to come:

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We will be at a major scientific

gathering that has been calculating

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how much rain fell during hurricane

Harvey in Texas and what it tells us

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about the changing weather in our

world.

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The Scottish Government has

said it's going to raise

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taxes for higher earners.

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Those earning more than £24,000

will pay 21p in the pound.

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That's a higher rate

than in the rest of the UK.

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Catriona Renton explains.

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This budget came against the

backdrop of the Scottish Government

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facing a shortfall in its budget of

hundreds of millions of pounds from

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the block grant that comes from

Westminster. Today they were able to

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make announcements of money for the

NHS, education. A big announcement

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about lifting the cap public sector

pay, 2% more for people earning less

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than £30,000 a year. But people want

to know how it was going to be paid

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for. Income tax. People who will pay

more, if you are paid more than

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£24,000 a year you will be paying

tax in a new intermediate tax band

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of 21p. The other higher rates will

increase by a penny...

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This is Outside Source live

from the BBC newsroom.

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Our lead story is...

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Disney is to buy large

parts of the media giant,

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21st Century Fox, for

more than $50 billion.

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Let's look at what is making

the headlines across the BBC.

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A collision between a school bus

and a train in the south of France

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has reportedly left at least

four people dead.

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Nine ohers are said to be

injured - seven seriously.

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The bus was at a railway

crossing near Perpignon.

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It's thought it was children

aged between 11 and 15.

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A suicide bomber disguised

as a policeman has killed 18

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officers at Somalia's main police

academy in Mogadishu.

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Witnesses said the victims

were there ahead of

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an early morning parade.

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And we've been learning more

about the sacking of reality TV star

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turned White House aide Omarosa

Manigault.

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Accounts vary - but it seems

she was sacked by chief of staff

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John Kelly last night and then

had her pass deactivated.

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She's denying reports that tried

to find the president

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at his White House residence,

or tripping the alarm system.

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We have the first estimate of how

many Rohingya Muslims have

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died in the first month

of the crisis in Myanmar.

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The figure is 6700, according

to Medecins Sans Frontiers.

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That includes 730 children

under the age of five.

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These people didn't

die of natural causes.

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Ask the Myanmar government,

it'll tell you that the

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figure is 400 people.

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What we can be sure of is that over

600,000 Muslims have fled

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into Bangladesh from Rakhine State.

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Many many stories

continue to be told.

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Journalist Kaamil Ahmed

One woman said...

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"They used their machetes so much,

the blades stopped cutting."

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She's called Momtaz Begum,

she says she was locked in her home

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before it was set on fire.

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This is MSF giving more

details on its research.

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We performed some surveys, six

surveys in various refugee camps the

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Rohingya is in Bangladesh. Amongst

the popular patient that had fled

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since August since the violence

began. We found the majority of

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these people had arrived since

August. We spoke to around 2500

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different households so it

represents a population of just over

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11,000 people. We asked them what

had happened to them. What was their

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health concerns, but also who had

died in their families. When we

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spoke to them, we were getting

consistent reports from every

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household of stories of death,

violence against their families that

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occurred inside Myanmar,

particularly this one month period

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that started at the end of August

through to September.

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We told you about Greenland.

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Well there's another story emerging

from that huge annual gathering

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of scientists in New Orleans

called the AGU.

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They have been turning their

attention to hurricane Harvey. You

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must remember this storm in August,

it hit Texas terribly. The

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scientists say they have now weighed

that total rainfall. The figure is

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127 billion tonnes of water. We have

been trying to put this into

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perspective. There is a New Orleans

Superdome. The amount of rain that

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came down is the equivalent of

filling it 26,000 times. What is

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interesting is how they measured it.

They measured how the Earth was

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compressed by it, the way you would

comprise someone's size and weight

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after they had sat down on a chair

or mattress. I was going to show you

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Texas and the fact Louisiana was

next door. Let's go live to New

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Orleans, Victoria Gill is with us.

We had to start with how do you

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measure the way rain makes an

impression on the earth?

Quite. This

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is something they already knew the

amount of rainfall from hurricane

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Harvey was colossal, standard rain

gauges had about 50 inches of rain.

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But these scientists here in the US

wanted a much more detailed

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measurement and what they used with

GPS stations, an array of GPS

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stations that advertised their exact

position on earth. What they could

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do was actually see how much the

Earth was pressed down as the huge

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weight, the tonnage of rainfall

fell. So one scientist described

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this, when you look at the data and

these positions shifting, D epar

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almost ripples and breathes like a

living animal. You can see it being

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squashed and rebounding so that is a

clear measure of the weight of the

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rainfall.

We all knew the store was

huge so we would expect the amount

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of rainfall to be considerable,

support else can the scientists

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learned by gauging big exact

rainfall?

It is important to

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understand how much rain fell

because of the impact, particularly

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of climate change on the severity of

the storm. We know climate change is

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fuelling the kind of engine behind

those tropical hurricane 's, because

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the warm air is the feel for the

engines that are those storms. They

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have said for the first time, there

is a direct causal link between the

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amount of precipitation and climate

change and back climate change did

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directly increase the amount of

precipitation. But scientists

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have said, they are starting to use

more certain terms, less

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conservative with their language

when they talk about climate change

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and its affect on our weather and we

are changing the weather. In order

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to understand how to protect our

cities and protect living near the

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coast, we need to understand how the

weather is going to change. So when

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we need to protect our urban

environments and communities from

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flooding in the future, we need to

know what the scale of the flooding

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will be. That is why these detailed

Meza mentioned our soap crucial.

It

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seems they are making an explicit

link between the scale of this storm

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and this climate change, but what

about the frequency of the storms?

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With this research they were talking

about specifically the amounts of

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rainfall, the crucial focus of this

study, about the intensity and the

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deluge of the rainfall and how much

rain fell. In this case they were

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talking about putting a specific

quantity on how much the store was

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fuelled and increased in its level

of precipitation in hurricane

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Harvey. We note the warm ocean

temperatures are the driver of the

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intensity of these storms. There is

a link on how we are changing the

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weather, those increasing

temperatures, the intensity and the

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frequency of hurricane is. It is a

concern for this area, it is quite

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apt this conference is taking place

in Louisiana.

Victoria, thank you

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very much indeed from New Orleans.

Also in New Orleans is Jonathan Amos

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from the BBC science unit. We will

hear from him later in the programme

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Abeid Greenland and how its ice is

melting.

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