04/01/2018 Outside Source

Hello, I'm Ros Atkins,

this is Outside Source.

Yesterday Donald Trump attacked,

today it was his lawyers.

They're trying to stop

this book in which

Steve Bannon accused

Donald Trump Junior

of treasonous behaviour.

This was the President on Bannon.

He called me a great man last night,

so he obviously changed his tune

pretty quick.

America's east coast

is taking a battering.

Snow, winds, and an 11th day

of record-breaking low temperatures.

There were terrible scenes in South

Africa after a train hit a truck.

At least 18 people died.

Plus, world affairs correspondent

Lyse Doucet will join us,

covering the Iran protests

and really anything else you want.

Get in touch, and we'll

ask your questions.

Lyse Doucet will be here in about

ten minutes, if you have questions

about the situation in Iran, send

them my

way, #BBCOS is the hashtag.

Lawyers for President Trump

are trying to block

the release of a book about him.

It's called Fire And Fury:

Inside The Trump White House,

it's by Michael Wolff,

it's not even out yet already,

but he and his publisher have

received this 11-page letter.

It says the book contains

"false and baseless statements"

which give rise to

"defamation by libel,

inducement of breach of contract" -

and much more besides.

Any number of things

may have upset Mr Trump.

This BBC article lists

the most remarkable claims.

Top of that list is Mr

Trump's former chief

strategist, Steve Bannon,

saying a meeting between the Trump

campaign and a Russian

lawyer was "treasonous".

It also claims Melania Trump cried

when it became clear her husband

would win the presidency

and that Mr Trump was "horrified".

And that the President was upset

so many A-list stars declined

to attend his inauguration.

A lot of interest in this book, the

BBC can't back-up all of the claims,

of course, but this is interesting.

The people in charge of the book are

moving up the release date, utterly

the Lizo gays in Washington, when

are you going to buy your copy?! --

Anthony Zurcher is in Washington.

It

was originally scheduled to come out

next week, but this is what they

think of the thread of the lawsuit

from Donald Trump and his lawyer. It

was always going to be legal long

shot, libel law is very difficult to

prove here in the US, but now it is

something of a mood point. They

could still sue after the fact, but

the genie is out of the bottle, and

the damage has been done.

The genie

is out of the bottle, and lots of

people who don't like Mr Trump are

feasting on the details, but quite a

lot of American journalists are

saying, what is the sourcing of all

of these claims?

That is a very good

question. I mean, the broad sweep of

the book conforms with a lot of

reporting that has been done by

reliable news sources, the New York

Times, the Washington Post, over the

course of the past year. We know the

White House has been chaotic, there

has been a great deal of staff

upheaval, we know Donald Trump has

been challenged to be focused and

stay on message. But a lot of the

details, there isn't as much

corroboration for that. This is

Michael Wolff basically basing it on

people he talked to, or said he

talked it within the White House,

and out of the White House. If he

provides transcripts, some of which

were done on the record, I think

that would substantiate a lot, but

he asserts that most of the people

in the White House think that Donald

Trump is unfit to lead, that he may

have a mental impairment, an

explosive thing to say in a book,

not something that you have seen in

other major media outlets, at least

to date.

Pleased day with us, we

will update everyone on where we

have got to with the protagonists.

-- please stay with us.

Now, after the President said

Steve Bannon had lost his mind,

Mr Bannon went onto Breitbart radio

and said, "The president is a great

man, you know I support him

day in and day out."

Remember, Steve Bannon

runs Breitbart.

Then today, the President

was inevitably asked about the row.

This was the reply.

Did Steve Bannon

betray you, Mr President?

He called

me a great man last night, so we

obviously changed his tune pretty

quick. Thank you all very much.

Thank you, I don't talk to him, I

don't talk to him. That is just a

misnomer. Thank you.

Here's how the White House

Press Secretary responded

to questions about the book.

I am not going to go through every

single page of the book, but there

are numerous examples of false and

that take place in the book. I will

give you one because it is really

easy, the fact that there was a

claim that the president didn't know

who John Boehner was is pretty

ridiculous, considering the majority

of you have seen photos, and several

of you have tweeted out that the

president not only knows it but has

played golf with him, tweeted about

him, that is pretty simple and

pretty basic.

Back to Anthony,

interesting to hear the president

say, I don't take calls from them,

clearly the president try to play

down his importance.

Sarah Huckabee

Sanders said yesterday that they had

spoken in December, so we kind of an

declared his press secretary the

very next day. You have to remember,

this was a senior adviser, a man who

came in when the Trump campaign was

on the rocks, down in the polls, he

tried to give them an ideological

foundation to what Donald Trump had

been saying, give him focus and

division in the closing days of the

campaign, and then became a senior

White House adviser. So to say that

he is a kindred spirit, at least

ideological with the president, that

is not going to bar. I think Steve

Bannon like to view the president as

representing a movement, something

greater than him, this idea of

economic nationalism, populism,

whatever you want to call it. But

this is a failure on the part of

Steve Bannon, and now he has been

totally alienate and from power, he

has burned his bridges with the

president thanks to this book, and

he is maybe settling some scores

with people in the White House at

this point. But while he does still

have his media empire, his influence

and his hopes of achieving his

political vision, I think, are

definitely damaged.

I am impressed

you are at work, I have seen their

weather!

They are getting it a lot

worse up north!

Good to speak to

you, and I asked about that, because

we are turning to the storm that is

being called a bomb cyclone.

Anything described that way is one

to worry about.

These are all pictures that have

come in from the east coast

of the US in the last few hours.

This is New York, which could see

up to 30cm of snow.

Hundreds of schools

have had to shut.

There are also states

of emergency in Georgia,

North Carolina,

Virginia, and Florida.

Florida is where these pictures are

from, strong winds, blizzards.

This is the first snow

there for almost 30 years.

This is off the back of 11 days

of record-breaking low temperatures.

These are pictures from

Atlantic City in New Jersey.

A big resort town that Donald Trump

knows very well. Authorities are

saying, not just in Atlantic City

but across the US ten people or more

have died because of this storm. To

explain the phrase bomb : -- bomb

cyclone:

That's an unofficial term

for a sharp drop in pressure

in what's already

a low pressure system.

Also I want to show you Niagara

Falls in northern New York state.

Before we go live to New York, if

you want a forecast for what is

going on in the US, download the BBC

weather app.

I spoke to Nada Tawfik an hour ago,

let's bring her in now, how are you

getting on?

Well, Ros, the snow has

calmed down, and for the most part

stopped, but the winds are still

pretty strong. Of course, that bomb

cyclone really whipped up the wind

gusts here in the city, and so what

we are looking at now is the city

trying to clean up this snow

accumulation. It was very difficult

before because the wind was sweeping

the snow back over surfaces that had

been cleaned. We saw that was an

issue at major airports, where

thousands of flights were cancelled,

as JFK and LaGuardia, where they had

to suspend all flights because of

white out conditions, and the

visibility issues. The city has

really sent out thousands of

personnel to clean up the roadways

so that the evening commute isn't

treacherous. And really, as I say,

at this point, the storm may have

been subsiding, but we are looking

at the freezing temperatures that

are about to set in, even worse than

what we have seen these last few

days since Christmas. In New York,

it is expected to be like minus 28

Celsius with the wind chill, so that

is what everyone is bracing for,

Ros.

My goodness! Looking at

people's reports, they talk about

the wind more than the snow.

Yeah, I

have been describing it to friends,

earlier in the day I felt I could I

was in a snow globe, the snow

whipping past, creating these white

out conditions in the city. And

really does make a difference to how

cold you feel, because in New York,

you know, there have been a

record-setting cold temperatures in

major cities, New York has had a

cold snap, but by no means as bad as

I have felt in the past. But it is

the wind that really makes it

difficult to be outside. What is

complicating conditions, to get New

York City up and running.

OK, Nada

complicating conditions, to get New

York City up and running.

OK, Nada,

try and stay warm, Nada Tawfik live

in New York.

The weather is not proving

any kinder on the other

side of the Atlantic.

Three people have died

as Storm Eleanor swept

across northern Europe.

Tens of thousands of people

experienced power cuts,

and airports were affected.

These are pictures from Belgium,

which was put on orange alert,

the third of four warning levels.

These are pictures from

Austria and Switzerland.

Winds reached up to 160 km/h

in the UK, and 147 km/h in France,

and in the Netherlands

the authorities shut

all major sea barriers

for the first time.

Meanwhile, in Marseilles in France,

some surfers were making the most

of the weather.

Frankly, those conditions do not

look as serious as we have seen

elsewhere.

An awful train crash

in South Africa today.

At least 18 people died

when the train hit a truck

at a level crossing.

This was the scene right

after the collision.

It's thought around 700 people

were on the train

when it collided with a truck.

Authorities are blaming

the truck driver,

saying that he failed to stop

at the level crossing.

This happened near a place

called Kroonstad,

the train was en route

from Port Elizabeth to Johannesburg.

This is a statement from

South Africa's transport minister.

You can see for yourself that the

truck driver was taking chances, he

thought that he was going to pass

through. Little did he know that the

train was going to hit him. That has

cost lots of lives. We don't know,

after we have completed our

investigation, as to how many

fatalities will we have discovered.

And there are almost 268 people that

have been injured, and four of them

are quite critical.

Lebo Diseko has more.

Police and emergency workers still

on the scene, really desperately

trying to rescue people, help people

who have been injured there. What we

do know, as you said, is that this

track hit the train, travelling from

Port Elizabeth to Johannesburg

carrying around 700 or so people.

There was some implication from the

transport minister that the truck

driver had tried to basically beat

the level crossing. We obviously

don't know that for sure.

Lyse Doucet has just arrived on set,

we will be talking to her about the

protests in Iran, how she judges the

government response, you are welcome

to send her questions, #BBCOS is the

hashtag. Delays to operations as the

latest figures show the NHS in

England is struggling to cope with

winter pressures. Almost 70,000

patients add to wait 30 minutes or

more in ambulances in the last week

of 2017, a 40% rise on the previous

seven days.

The National Health

Service continues to do a fantastic

job for people, yes, it has

pressures over winter, yes,

particular pressures in the

Christmas and New Year period. The

staff are dedicated, we have put

extra resources in, and let's not

forget, the NHS has been identified

as the best and safest health care

system in the world. That is down to

the fantastic work our staff do. I

recognise that it is difficult for

people who are facing delays, but I

recognise that it is difficult if

somebody is delayed on their

admission to hospital, or if

somebody has an operation

postponing, and we will hope to

ensure those operations can be

reinstated as soon as possible. I

know it is difficult, frustrating,

disappointing for people...

Glimmer

welcome back to the BBC

newsroom, I Ros Atkins.

Lawyers for Donald Trump are trying

to block the publication of a book

containing explosive quotes

attributed to his former

strategist Steve Bannon.

That book is due to come out

tomorrow now.

A suicide bomb in Kabul has

killed at least 11 people.

The interior ministry says

it's not clear what the target was.

We do know that police

were trying to contain

a demonstration when it happened.

In Zambia, the start of the school

term has been delayed indefinitely

because of a cholera outbreak.

50 people have died since October,

almost all in Lusaka Province,

where there have been

over 2000 cases.

Cate Blanchett is to head the jury

at the Cannes Film Festival.

As a double Oscar winner,

she definitely has the credentials.

She'll take over from the Spanish

director Pedro Almodovar.

Iran has written to the UN

to complain about US interference.

It says Donald Trump,

"In numerous absurd tweets,

incited Iranians to engage

in disruptive acts."

Some of that is beyond dispute, he

has been tweeting things like...

"Such respect for the people

of Iran as they try to take

back their corrupt government.

You will see great support

from the United States

at the appropriate time!"

Iran has been dealing with

anti-government protests

like these for a week now.

It blames foreign interference,

although beyond the Trump tweets

it's offered no evidence.

The protestors say they're

angry about inflation,

unemployment and corruption.

Now, those pictures

were from earlier in the week.

It's very hard to know if

the protests are still going on now,

that's because the government

has slowed down the internet,

which is making it hard

for activists

to upload videos and pictures.

It's also blocking social

media and messaging apps.

Lyse Doucet is here, I countries is

asking you to come and speak to us,

what are you making of this?

This is

uncharted territory for Iran, and it

is difficult to get a clear picture

of what is happening on the ground

in dozens of small cities and towns

across the country, because they

have shut down the messaging app,

they have made it very difficult for

people to upload videos, and these

protests are taking place in places

where it is not the Twitter

generation, not the young activists

- and his working-class people, the

same people who have been having

small protest ever since September,

but strivers, union leaders,

workers, protesting against their

standard of living, high prices,

recent measures in the budget, fuel

hikes, more money going to opaque

clerical establishment is without

accountability. So we don't really

know, but a lot of what is happening

has to do with bread and butter

issues, but something else is

happening - the symbols of the

Islamic revolution, the Islamic

Republic, have been attacked in a

way that has not been done since the

1979 revolution. So they have

crossed a line.

One viewer picks up

on what you are saying, Liam says,

is this evidence of an educated

younger generation making themselves

heard? You are saying perhaps not.

This is the thing about this, you

will remember, Ros, during what was

called the Arab Spring, that

misnomer, the uprisings were

described as leaderless. It is the

same thing in Iran, although it is a

different context. Leaderless

revolutions, people do not know what

is directing it, no-one in

particular directing it. In 2009, at

the time of protests which went on

for six months with millions on the

streets, predominantly in Tehran, it

was the reformist clerics and

politicians directing it. They are

nowhere to be seen, in fact some of

them have criticised these latest

protests, so it is hard to make

sense of who is driving it, and

there such a wide array of issues.

What we know from the security

services, 90% of the people they

have arrested our under the age of

25, and interestingly, in one of

their most recent statements, they

have arrested the children of some

of the most prominent families in

the holiest city in Iran, so just

because you are young does not mean

you are not so severally educated

and wealthy, there are young people

in the province is too, and we have

seen painful images in some of the

videos, young people shouting that

they have got a university education

and they have no job. They feel they

were promised something, and if

there is one thing that is said to

be driving these protests, it was

the promise of the Iranian nuclear

deal, which the authorities in Iran

over promised and and are delivered,

and the international community and

are delivered. Iranians have not

been seeing the fruits of it. So it

is one thing to be poor and

suffering from difficult living

conditions, it is another to say

that they will improve and then they

do not.

And Donald Trump has seized

on these protests as yet more

evidence of the fact that Obama

should never have helped to cut that

nuclear deal.

The promise of the

nuclear deal was that Iran would be

be brought back into the

international community, could trade

with the international community,

but that has not happened. The

banking restrictions make it very

difficult for investors, they are

worried they will run foul of

American banking laws. But of

course, as you know, from covering

day in, day out American politics, a

lot of what Trump does is anything

but Obama. Next week, President

Trump will have to decide whether he

will waive the sanctions lifted

because of the nuclear deal or put

sanctions back on. Does he want to

further punish the Iranian people

and see the consequences on the

street? He could make it more

difficult for the reformers. Or is

he, as one pundit said, professing a

love for the Iranian people, maybe

he will do it for them?

I am

enjoying your Radio 4 series, by the

way! If you want to listen to that,

all about women who had impacts on

the democracies in which they live,

search for Lyse Doucet on Radio 4

and you will find the first couple

of episodes. We are talking business

now.

For months, we've been covering

Toshiba's quest to sell off

its US nuclear division,

Westinghouse.

Well, it looks like a deal

is finally in place,

and it's a bit of a surprise buyer.

Yogita Limaye is in New York, so who

is it?

Well, it is Brookfield, which

is a private equity company, a

Canadian company. It was one of the

many private equity firms that was

bidding for this particular

acquisition. It has been a surprise,

because you know, there were other

big names, like Blackstone Apollo,

so it has been quite a surprise as

to who has finally struck the deal,

$4.6 billion, and that is higher

than what was anticipated.

It will

be a huge relief to Toshiba, because

it is desperate to get this deal

done.

That is right, Toshiba 's

struggles have been escalating, they

had an accounting scandal, and with

this particular company,

Westinghouse, they bought another

company in 2015 which was building

nuclear reactors in the US, the

budget there, they overran

desperately, which meant losses for

Toshiba, and so they are trying to

get rid of this part of the company

so they can focus on their core

business, which is chip-making.

Sugita Lin, thank you very much. --

Yogita Limaye.

Driverless cars are shaping up to be

one of the most transformative

technologies of the 21st century.

But truly self-driving vehicles

remain a long way off.

Our crash-test dummy,

or correspondent Theo Leggett has

been trying some safety features.

Proper driverless cars will not be

on the market for a few years, but

there are already automated systems

which can improve safety which are

fitted to cars you can buy today. So

to find out more, we have borrowed a

test track, we have got a

state-of-the-art production vehicle,

and this one is a crash-test dummy.

What we are going to do is turn

right into the path of a car coming

towards us. Oh! That is quite

violent. But we didn't hit the car

coming in the opposite direction. We

have another system to try as well,

and this time I'm going to do the

driving. We are going to try out an

automatic braking system, and that

involves trying to drive into the

back of the car in front, which I'm

not entirely happy about, but let's

give it a go. I can see the car in

front, I want to put the brakes on,

but I'm not going to.

So the car gave me an audible

warning and also showed me a

flashing light, and then the brakes

came on, the seat belts tensioned

and it brought us to a controlled

halt.

Just before we take a break, a

reminder that the book which has

been at the centre of our lead story

today and yesterday, this book by

journalist Michael Wolff about the

first year of the Trump presidency,

containing lots of explosive

allegations, including quotes from

Steve Bannon in which he says that

meetings between a Russian lawyer

and President Trump's son and

son-in-law were treacherous, which

went down very badly with President

Trump, who said Steve Bannon had

lost his mind. I mention all of

this, because this was supposed to

be coming out next week, President

Trumps lawyers were trying to stop

that - publishers say it will be

available at 9am Eastern standard

time in the US, that will be in the

public domain tomorrow. See you in a

minute.

Good evening. I am Ben Rich with the

latest on the global stories we have

been keeping a close eye on here at

the BBC Weather Centre, and you will

have heard us talking about a winter

storm sliding up the eastern side of

the USA, a rapidly deepening area of

low pressure, and when an error of

low pressure games more isobars like

this, we can see it really means

business, very strong winds,

hurricane force out to sea, blizzard

conditions inland, and even a long

way south across the USA. These

pictures from South Carolina and

Georgia, we have seen significant

snowfall in northern Florida, their

measurable snowfall in close to 30

years. Things will start to improve

across the north-east USA as we head

into the weekend, still some icy

conditions left behind, though, but

the main body of this storm system

will all the while be sliding across

north-eastern parts of Canada. For

the weekend forecast, if you have

travel plans, prepare to feel the

chill. Montreal, minus 22 at best on

Saturday afternoon, and if you are

going to New York, minus 12. If we

do not get above minus 15 in Boston,

that could break records. A quick

round-up of the other weather

stories around the world, the

south-east of Africa, Madagascar,

sliding down the eastern coast,

still some torrential rain, up to

1000 millimetres of rain in places,

strong winds as well. And it has

been unusually stormy across New

Zealand. It is summer in the

southern hemisphere, of course, but

no-one told the weather, a swirl of

cloud, a deep area of low pressure

that has brought torrential rain

working southwards through Friday.

If you are longing for a taste of

summer, this might not be what you

are looking for, a lot of rain and

disruption to come. A taste of

winter on the way for parts of

Western Europe, at home, yes, but

also down towards Iberia, and for

that matter even into the north-west

of Africa. A frontal system pushing

southeastwards during tomorrow, cold

air really starting to roll its way

in, this air coming all the way from

the Arctic. Look at the chart for

Iberia on Saturday, 5 degrees in

Madrid, 14 in Barcelona, but inland

parts of Spain could see snow. Rain

across France, seven in Paris, six

in Berlin with a lot of cloud, you

would expect it to be cold across

Scandinavia, and it is, with snow

showers at times. Back home, this is

Friday, bands of showers or longer

spells of rain, but notice the

temperatures starting to dip away, a

cold weekend to come for us as well,

more details on that in half an

hour.

I'm Ross Atkins with Outside Source

yesterday at this time you're

talking about Donald Trump thing on

the attack. Today his lawyers are on

the attack. They are trying to stop

a book in which Steve Bannon accuses

Donald Trump Jr of treasonous

behaviour. This was the president

earlier. That wasn't the president!

America's East Coast is having a

tough time. Snow, winds and

record-breaking low temperatures.

Terrible scenes in South Africa

earlier when a train hit a truck. 18

people have died. You are welcome to

get in touch.

Back to the top story. President

Trump and Steve Bannon. Mr Trump's

lawyers are trying to stop this book

coming into the public domain. It

looks like they may be foiled. The

book's publishers have said it will

come out at 9am on Friday morning,

East Coast time. This will be in the

public domain unless there is a

dramatic intervention. Let's look at

this story and how it is being

covered by different people in the

US media. Newsweek is focusing on

what a lot of people are calling a

bromance between Trump and Steve

Bannon. That has fallen apart. Jon

Sopel says this now means war. He

says we will see a battle for the

hards of the support base. Steve

Bannon is putting up candidates in

Senate and congressional elections,

against more traditional

Republicans. The Washington Post

says the fact that the President's

lawyers are trying to shut this book

down suggests there is a palpable

concern about what Steve Bannon may

say. We can speak to Nina now.

Hello. I am always a bit sceptical

of fallouts that Donald Trump has.

Sometimes he falls out with someone

and makes up the next week or month.

Is this the real deal?

It is hard to

tell. He falls out, he comes back.

The book, which is winging its way

towards me right now, so I will at

least have one if they decide to

shred it, there are 200 people he

interviewed, not just Steve Bannon,

but Kellyanne Conway, Sean Spicer

and other people. Steve Bannon

obviously did the most damage but

there is a lot of other material in

there that doesn't come from him.

There are other reasons why they

wouldn't want this book out. For

instance, we learn the president

fears being poisoned. That is why he

eats junk food. Because it is

premade. And that he doesn't read.

We are again hearing that he doesn't

read. It is just sort of a crazy

place. I think his supporters, the

base, if they bothered to read the

book, and if they are not persuaded

that it is fake news, and I think

Steve Bannon being in it makes it

not fake news. Maybe that is the

problem. Maybe that is why they need

to have it stopped.

A lot of people

are raising arched eyebrows at some

of the way the author is documenting

conversations word for word.

Well,

boy, I hate to doubt a fellow

journalist. I haven't worked with

Michael. I know that he has a

reputation for sometimes

embellishing a little bit. But I

don't think that the material in

there, certainly whatever he has

quoted Steve Bannon as saying, has

not been denied. Bannon is not

denying anything that he is quoted

as saying. I haven't heard anybody

else step forward. But maybe they do

not want to bring attention to their

comments. He spent months there. I

think that maybe if the court turned

exact, I think he probably got a

sense of the place.

I want to pull

up another article before I ask you

a question. This is in -- an article

by Arnie Carney, Washington's

growing obsession, the 25th

Amendment. Some of you may have

heard of this. For those who haven't

focused on it, help was as to why

Washington is talking about the 25th

Amendment?

That allows for the

Cabinet to remove the president if

they deem that he is not fit for

office, that he can no longer carry

out his duties. It can be physical

or mental disability that they are

responding to. The question is,

would the Cabinet do that? It is the

same sort of talk you have been

hearing from mums from people who do

not like this president about

impeachment. Impeachment is around

the corner, it is kind to happen. We

have a Republican Congress. We had

Cabinet secretaries who are busy

carrying out the wishes of major

donors to get their deregulation, to

get the deregulations off their

backs. The Congress passed a massive

tax cut that these donors have been

dreaming about, the Republican party

at the dreaming about, for decades.

They are packing the judiciary with

right-wing judges who come straight

from a list from this society that

has been waiting in -- lying in wait

to get these people in there. They

will not send this man packing. I

don't see that happening.

And in

terms of the President's ability to

get stuff done, he is a remarkable

man. He is in the White House, so

who am I to question him? But with

this going on it makes it harder to

pursue an agenda, doesn't it?

They

have been operating from a point of

chaos since getting in there. They

passed the tax cuts and they have

certainly made changes at the

agencies. They are taking career

agency employees, staffers at the

State Department for decades, and

getting rid of them. They are

enacting the wishes of the drill,

baby drill crowd. They have

announced they're going to drill for

oil in Florida and California,

enraging the environmentalists. I

don't think it is a distraction,

certainly, and it is something the

press likes to cover. But the people

really doing the work behind the

scenes for this and with this

administration, they are not

deterred. They are getting as much

done as they can while this sideshow

goes on.

One other thing I want to

ask you about. We have got the

mid-term elections a few months down

the track. There has been a lot of

emphasis on a possible split caused

by this feud. You think the

Republicans have reasons to be

worried about how all of this could

impact the natural supporters and

how they vote?

I don't think so.

They may have worries in terms of

the Democrats because the Democrats

are mounting a defence and they have

an Offense. They have a lot of

people energised. As you saw in

Alabama, if they get that kind of

energy going, they are running

people for every open seat,

challenging everyone in the house

which they have not done before, to

try to take the house back. I think

they have more to worry about on --

from the offence. As far as the base

is concerned, the bases and in love

with Bannon. The base is Trump's

base. I don't think that Bannon's

defection, whatever you want to call

it, is going to affect the base. I

could be wrong. Maybe he has his own

base but I don't think so.

Nina,

good to talk. Have you put aside the

whole of tomorrow to read the book?

Tonight, hopefully!

We will watch

out for your review.

It is very

readable.

We will see. Thank you,

Nina. This book has been at the

centre of the biggest story in

American politics in the last couple

of days, by Michael Wolff. It was

supposed to come out next week but

it has been brought forward and will

coming to the public domain on

Friday. We shall see what's in it.

Wherever you are watching, if you

want more coverage of the stories we

have, you can get that through the

BBC website. On this story, you can

see the ten explosive revelations

from the new Trump book. Huge

amounts of background on all the

stories we cover.

Of course we are President Trump

talking all the time about fake

news. Here is a story that relates

the lad. Authorities in Sweden are

concerned about that. There is an

election in Sweden this year and

securities says Russia is likely to

try to influence the result. Russia

is already accused of trying to

meddle in the 2016 election in the

US. Major investigation is underway

into any possible links between the

Trump campaign and Russia. Yesterday

an Outside Source we mentioned

Emmanuel Macron. He is accusing

Russia trying to meddle in the last

French election, the one that he

won. He is planning legislation to

stop the spread of fake news during

future French elections. Back in

2014, pro-Russia hackers launched

cyber attacks to try to disrupt

Ukrainian presidential election.

That did not stop Petro Poroshenko

from winning. There are a number of

reasons why Sweden might be

concerned. Gordon Corera has been

Tiss .com. Sweden has been a prime

target as fears of fake news spread.

A general election is due this year.

The country has already been under

attack.

Head of the security

service, its version of

MI5, told me where he thinks

the threat comes from.

We are not shy.

We think the biggest

threat comes from Russia.

If they want uncertainty,

they will do that.

We have seen that from

different ministers.

We have seen fake news.

It has been going

on for a long time.

This is one example.

Supposedly about arms deals

with Ukraine, it used the forged

signature of the defence minister.

Allegations of Russian

interference have been

growing and a number

of countries, including the

United States and United Kingdom.

But Sweden's feels closer to the

front line, with Russia just across

the Baltic Sea. It is thought here

that Russian fears over Sweden's

closer relationship with Nato may

lie behind attempts to influence,

interfere even intimidate.

It is not just about disinformation.

Three years ago, a Russian

submarine was thought to

have been seen in Swedish waters.

Today, the concern

is about fake news.

This false story about a church

being vandalised by Muslims

was spread by social media

accounts known as bots.

There is no proven link to Russia.

Sweden's public safety agency now

monitors the risk and it the problem

extends beyond the borders of the

country. This story about a former

Swedish Foreign Minister setting up

a group to battle Eurosceptics was

picked as up by the British and

European media weeks before the

Brexit referendum.

Reading this article

you can see the link.

Fake photoshopped page.

It was from one of our major

newspapers.

Swedish society is trying

to confront the threat.

Media organisations are supporting

independent fact checking.

And the government

wants primary school

children taught how

to spot fake news.

This year's collection could be

a taste of how far this works.

Have a look at what the Turkish

Interior Minister has been saying

about drug dealers.

This is the quote.

That is one way of doing things, I

guess. I spoke to the BBC Turkish

correspondent.

He loves speaking his mind. He uses

populist rhetoric. Most of the time

in speeches he doesn't hesitate to

use slang words. He speaks more like

the man in the street rather than a

high-level comment official. Keeping

that in mind, this is what he was

trying to show the police officers,

that they need to crack down on drug

dealers. These are the words he

preferred to use. In many issues in

current Turkey, this created a big

division. It divided the public

opinion. Government supporters

believe this is a brave move. Brave

words to say. This is how the

Turkish government should how -- how

the Turkish comment should be

fighting crime organisations. But

for the critics of the government,

this is another sign that the

government is trying to damage the

rule of law and it is actually

promoting security officers and

civilians to operate outside legal

limits. Today the Turkish bar

Association said it is a crime. A

member of the Turkish parliament,

she filed a lawsuit for incitement

to commit a crime. When it comes to

drugs, it is not one of the biggest

problems that the modern Turkey

faces at the moment. It is one of

the main smuggling routes of drugs,

opium and heroin, from eastern

Europe. When it comes to usage, it

is the average -- the average usage

is way lower than EU figures.

If you were watching yesterday we

were talking about the startling

announcement in Ethiopia. The

government has said it was going to

free all political prisoners. I

wanted to get more information on

this today. Here are some

statistics. The UN says 26,000

people have been arrested in

Ethiopia since 2015 in connection

with anti-government demonstrations

like this one. These are pictures

from last year. The demos started in

2015. They were around concerns the

government had a plan that could

affect land rights. These protests

began in 2015 but they intensified

in the next couple of years,

particularly in Addis Ababa and in

the northern region. The suppression

of these protests was brutal. Even

the government has admitted around

500 people died towards the end of

2016. Some human rights groups put

that figure much higher, at around

800. I want to know just how

important this announcement is this

week. It appears very important. I

turned to a regular on Outside

Source, Mary Harper, Africa editor.

I think it is tremendously

significant. Ethiopia is very

repressive. It does not tolerate

political dissent. British say it is

now going to start releasing people

who it has arrested for political

reasons, it has arrested people for

expressing opinions, hopping into

doesn't like, and it seems like it

has arrested thousands if not tens

of thousands of people, the fact it

is going to release some of these

people is really something very

significant, because it is normally

a case that Ethiopia does not

tolerate dissent, let alone allow

people it has jailed, out of jail.

As I observe the story, the reasons

for the protests do not appear to

have gone away. So how is the

government proposing to deal with

those things?

This is a first step.

The Ethiopian government realises

now that for more than two years

there have been violent protests in

the two most populous areas of the

country. That makes up a very large

proportion of the population. As you

say, these protest are continuing.

They have been going on even after

the government made the announcement

it would be releasing people who are

imprisoned for political reasons. So

that is one reason, I think, why

Ethiopia has decided it has got to

make some of gesture. Also, there

are tensions within the governing

coalition. Some hardliners saying

you have got to carry on as normal,

basically locking anybody up does

not agree with you. A more

progressive group of people saying

you have to move at the Times, we

cannot continue in this very

repressive Marxist controlled

government in an era of social media

and enhanced communication between

people.

Why you are here, how easy

is it for you or other BBC

journalist to go to Ethiopia and

cover the situation?

It is difficult

when you go as a journalist of

Italy. I travel to Ethiopia quite

often for other reasons, and you can

pick things up quite carefully. When

you go there as an official

journalist, they do make it

difficult, they try to restrict

where you go. They find it difficult

to understand that you might want to

report something in a way that is

different from how they perceive it

to be. Ethiopia has got quite a

narrow view, I suppose, that those

in authority there of what the truth

is. They don't want anybody stepping

outside of that and interpreting

things in different ways. It is

important to view Ethiopia as a

place that is one of the most

populous countries in Africa, 90

million. It is a huge regional

significance and it is a key ally of

the West, especially in terms of its

fight against Islamist extremism.

Buddy can't look that Ethiopia as if

it is some kind of Western-style

African country. It is something

very different. Whether it even

wants to become Western-style or

more be based on something like the

Chinese model, is sort of what

Ethiopia is wrestling with right

now.

If you want to learn more about

Ethiopia, there is a country profile

online on the BBC website. I want to

finish the programme by giving more

details on some stark warnings about

children and social media. Here in

the UK the Children's Commissioner

is saying social media is beginning

to dominate children's social lives.

Lots of parents will recognise that.

She also says that most children are

ill-equipped for the avalanche of

pressure that social media is

bringing. Here are some teenagers

who have spoken to the BBC.

I get about 300 views on Snapchat.

If you are out with your friends,

everybody is always Snapchat in you.

300 likes on my photos.

I mainly use

it for games because I don't have

social media. I don't watch news.

I

go on social media. Dell are makes

me feel more good about myself than

I usually do.

I spend four to five

hours on social media.

The danger is

if you start talking to people you

don't know, something could happen.

Cyber bullying could be going on.

People act completely different on

social media. There is no reason to.

It is like they are scared of them.

They are pretending they are your

best friend.

In secondary school you

are surrounded by lots of young

people -- new people and you want to

impress them by showing them your

social media are showing them how

great you are and how good a person

you are.

My mum checks my phone

quite regularly, Instagram and

things and my messages, to see I'm

behaving myself!

This report on social media was

commissioned by the Children's

Commissioner. This is her reaction.

We have had a lot of concentration

on older children, 14 and

15-year-olds, but that younger age

group. For the first time we have

seen the difference it makes if

children are online aged eight and

nine, and the changes they go

through into secondary school. I'm

very worried about the impact, that

explosion of social media at that

time. But also, the real role it

plays in their social lives and the

impact it can have. Generally,

smartphones are very powerful

instruments. The age of 11 it is

something we would never have had

under our computers at work ten

years ago. Whatever point it is,

children need to be able to cope. We

know that most children, when they

go into secondary schools, have

their fun with them. It is usually a

smartphone. As children seek to get

to know their classmates and their

new environment, it is a very public

way of doing so with their

smartphones.

That is the UK Children's

Commissioner. This is the view of

one child psychologist responding to

this report.

I think it is really worrying, quite

scary actually. If you think about

the content and the issues that

children are exposed to on social

media sites, seven, a nine-year-olds

are not equipped to do that. There

is a reason the age limit is 13. We

do need to encourage parents to

stick with it. But we do need to

educate the children and allow them

to develop digital literacy and

emotional skills. I think is really

important parents are using the

controls from either Internet

service provider or the device they

are wrong, making sure that children

are not accessing stuff that they

are not ready or equipped to deal

with. But I do think also there is a

challenge to the industry is out

there, to develop platforms that are

safe for children. Children want to

communicate digitally. That is what

they see adults doing and they want

to be a part of that. They need

their own space where they can do

that properly.

In the last few seconds of the

programme a reminder of a couple of

details relating to this book about

the Trump presidency. First of all,

this is the Wall Street Journal, one

of the correspondence saying the

book is coming out on Friday as

opposed to next week. They say it is

a response to the demand for the

book. Perhaps it is a response to

the fact Donald Trump's lawyers are

trying to stop them from publishing

it. Here is Katty Kay man who is on

our programme all the time, saying

that there will be questions about

the reporting but a surprising

number of people in the White House

in this book basically say this is

not a man capable of being

president. We shall find out what is

in very soon. And I will speak to

you next. Thanks for watching.