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Hello, I'm Philippa Thomas,

this is Outside Source.

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Syria accuses the US-led

coalition of war crimes,

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after a series of attacks kill 100

pro-government fighters.

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The UN's calling for a ceasefire -

Russia says it's not

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going to happen.

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We would like to see a ceasefire but

with the terrorists are not sure

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they are in agreement to what is

proposed -- are not sure.

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Trying to avert another US

government shutdown -

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with the deadline just hours away,

can the politicians

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reach a budget deal?

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Twitter posts its first

ever quarterly profit -

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sending its share value surging.

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Take a look at that smile,

because it just made history.

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This 18-month-old boy with Down's

syndrome is the new face

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of a US baby food brand.

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Welcome to Outside Source.

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Syria has accused the US-led

coalition of war crimes,

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after it carried out airstrikes

on forces fighting for

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the Syrian government -

killing around 100 fighters.

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The confrontation was the deadliest

between the two so far.

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The bombardment happened

in Syria's eastern

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Dair Uhzor province.

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Here's how the Pentagon explains it:

the US-led coalition acted

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in self-defence after a base

where US advisers were

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stationed came under attack.

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Here's the Pentagon

chief spokesperson.

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We have the right to defend

ourselves and we have seen a

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build-up for over a week, which was

unprovoked. We are comfortable and

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the secretary is comfortable with

the judgment of our commanders on

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the ground.

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Here's what Syria says: this

is a "brutal massacre",

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American aggression which amounts

to a war crime.

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Let's show you why Dair

Uzhor matters so much.

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Our map shows the parts of Syria

held by the government,

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and then over to the east,

over the buffer zone

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of the Euphrates River,

the territory held by the rebel

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Syrian Democratic Forces

backed by Washington.

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It's also worth knowing

that there are both oil

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and gas fields over there -

valuable sources of cash.

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What we are seeing, both sides, the

Americans and the Syrians, trying to

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do Marco Reus, the Syrians are

saying they are trying to recapture

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-- trying to D-mark areas.

And that

is the key, much of this territory

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was held by the self-styled Islamic

State and if they are pushed out

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there is something of a vacuum.

Exactly. Both sides are trying to

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exert control and the US allies on

the ground, they want to establish

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autonomy in the North and they have

the support of the Americans while

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this is happening, but the Syrians,

the Syrian government and its

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allies, would like to recapture all

of the Syrian territory and we have

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been watching them do this over the

last seven years, and as they are

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inching slowly slowly, this is what

we have been seeing, especially in

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Dair Uzhor.

We showed our viewers

the line of the river, the buffer

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zone between the sides but is a bit

worrying to realise the Russians are

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backing those on the west and the

Americans are backing those on the

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east, there's the potential

something dangerous to happen.

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Absolutely, but we have seen this

interaction and rising tensions

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before, last summer we saw it

further to the east where we had the

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US allied forces on the ground and

the Syrians and their allies

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including the Russians advancing

towards the Syrian Iraqi border and

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we saw a similar clash between the

two said this is something that

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needs to be taken into

consideration. -- so this. It is not

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that important but it can be

considered a land grab by either

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side, this area.

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Well, going back to our map over

here you can see the area

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of Eastern Ghouta -

and as these pictures show

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it's under siege by government

forces who've been bombarding

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it for four days now.

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More than 200 Syrians

have been killed.

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What the Syrian government is trying

to do, they are trying to work on

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this area in terms of the local

reconsideration -- reconciliations

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they haven't been doing in other

areas, and because this hasn't come

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to fruition, what they do instead,

they conduct air strikes and we have

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seen that, and in response we have

seen a number of casualties in

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Damascus as a result of water

shelling -- mortar shelling so we

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are seeing injuries in these Pacific

areas. -- 's Pacific. -- in these

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specific areas.

There is peace talks

trying to happen, but this is

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actually happening on the ground for

top the peace

-- the police

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initiatives have resulted in very

little, we have seen slow

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reconciliations from the initiatives

that have

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resulted -- taken place, but that

has got to be specific to these

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areas. It is unable to happen, this

piece, because neither side are

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willing to make this a reality.

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The US government

could shut down again

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unless Congress agrees on America's

budget today, with votes expected

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later in both houses of Congress.

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This time yesterday

we told you Senate leaders

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were celebrating reaching a deal.

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Well, not so fast.

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In the lower house,

Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi

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was outraged that the agreement left

in limbo the hundreds

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of thousands of young

undocumented immigrants -

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known as Dreamers - currently under

threat of being deported.

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What Nancy did next

was extraordinary.

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Here's the start of it.

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Everyday courageous patriotically

lose their status and as members of

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Congress we have a moral

responsibility to act now to protect

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who are the pride of our nation and

our American in every way but on

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paper. I used is built to -- are

used this bill to push further on

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this.

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Nancy Pelosi carried on telling

the stories of these

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immigrants and their families.

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And on.

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And on.

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For eight hours.

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Setting a record for the longest

speech ever made in the House -

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breaking the previous record

set in 1909.

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Let's go back to her.

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For the last eight hours I have had

the privilege of reading the

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testimony of so many Dreamers, I

still have more.

APPLAUSE

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I thank all of you.

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Earlier I spoke to our correspondent

in Washington Jane O'Brien.

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I asked her whether the threat of

a government shutdown is behind us.

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It shows how conflicted Democrats

really are over this budget

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compromise because although there is

a lot in it that they like increased

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spending for domestic programmes

like childhood and health insurance

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and disaster relief and tackling the

"Crisis, but Democrats went to war

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with Republicans in the White House

over immigration and in particular

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these Dreamers, young immigrants

brought to the US as children and

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now facing deportation, if the

Congress cannot come up with

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legislation to fix it. This is why

Nancy Pelosi says she can't support

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the bill but she is significantly

not telling other Democrats how to

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vote.

If the Senate and the house

vote yes to a deal, is that the end

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of the budget crisis?

Pretty much,

yes. There is a stopgap funding

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measure included in the bill which

means Congress will have another six

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weeks to come up with a longer

funding measure but more importantly

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this will set spending levels for

two years and raise the debt ceiling

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for two years so it will create a

level of stability, financial

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stability, that the US government

hasn't seen in years.

Another big

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story, White House chief of staff

John Kelly is shocked by

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allegations.

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He said he is shocked by allegations

against an aide to President

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Trump, Rob Porter -

that's him on the screen -

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who's resigned amid

domestic abuse claims.

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This is Mr Porter's first

wife, Colbie Holderness,

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a US government analyst.

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She says Mr Porter kicked her

on their honeymoon in 2003,

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and punched her two years later,

giving her this black eye.

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This is Mr Porter's second

wife Jennifer Willougby.

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She said she filed a protective

order against Mr Porter

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after he allegedly punched

in and broke the glass

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of a door at their home.

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Mr Porter has already

said the claims

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are "outrageous and simply false".

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Jane O'Brien with more.

Very

awkward, because it is pretty clear

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that John Kelly as chief of staff

did know about these allegations

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because they were holding up Mr

Porter's security clearances from

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the FBI. What new allegations he is

talking about is not clear that

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really the crux of the matter

because John Kelly as chief of staff

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is a pretty important focal point of

White House operations and he was

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brought in to put out these fires

and he seems to be fanning the

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flames and that is not a good look

for someone as integral to White

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House operations as he is. It is not

quite clear where this goes next but

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certainly it is embarrassing for the

White House and also in the me, too,

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moment, it puts them out of step

with what much of America is

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thinking about at the moment.

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Tech giants in the US today pushed

back against the idea

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that their platforms were used

by Russia to meddle

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in the Brexit referendum.

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British MPs were holding the first

ever hearing of a parliamentary

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select committee outside the UK.

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The purpose was to grill the US

companies about outside interference

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in the Brexit campaign.

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Here's the chair of the digital,

culture, media and sport

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parliamentary committee,

Damien Collins, questioning

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two Twitter executives.

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We are talking about lies, someone

who is deciding to spread lies about

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someone else, by not harassing or

inciting violence but they are

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spreading lies and by using the

anonymity of Twitter to do that and

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there's nothing you can do about it?

The anonymity on our platform is not

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a shield against breaking our terms

of service.

Telling a lie on Twitter

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would not require action to be taken

against the account holder?

We do

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not have rules based on truth.

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Earlier I spoke with the BBC's

Aleem Maqbool, in Washington -

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he says it's not just Twitter

in the firing line.

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No, it wasn't, and the hearing is

still going on in this room to my

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right. It was YouTube, Google,

Facebook, and all of them were asked

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in this so-called fake news inquiry,

but the phrase does not give a real

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sense of the breadth of questioning

that these tech companies faced.

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They faced questions about whether

the information about us that they

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gathered was used for political

purposes and they were asked about

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what they do to stop access to hate

websites but also about what they

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were doing about those who were

trying to influence elections. Every

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single tech company was asked by the

chair Damian Collins MP as to what

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they had found in terms of Russian

interference in the Brexit

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referendum and they all said they

had found nothing or very little.

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For Twitter, they said they had

closed down 49 accounts that had

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tweeted fewer than a thousand tweets

ahead of the referendum, but there

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is evidence to suggest from others

independently that there was more

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influence from Russia ahead of the

referendum but the question is, what

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can MPs do about it? They are

questioning these tech companies and

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saying there is a problem but at the

moment all they have had back is

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assurances and I can't get anything

more concrete from these tech

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companies as it stands. -- they

can't.

Did you feel you had heard

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anything new?

It was interesting,

some of the research cited when it

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came to YouTube, that hate videos,

it was found that 70% of the

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viewership to far right videos was

generated by YouTube's owned up next

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features, recommended if you watch

one video, it will recommend the

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next hate video. Many MPs said, that

is something you can do something

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about, but menu these conversations

came down to the fact that these

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companies want us to spend more time

on their platforms and that is the

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interest -- but many of these

conversations. Unless something is

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done where it is legally binding

where they have to do something

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about it, it is clear by not minded

to do quite as much as the MPs would

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like them to do. -- by a not minded.

Often these companies say they are

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just a platform but the point has

been made that they write the

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algorithms.

That is right. We have

heard a lot of talk about algorithms

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and right now in the second session

there are two additional reporters

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and editors from the US --

traditional. They are talking about

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their problems, they are sort of on

the same side, saying social media

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platforms need to do much more to

stop false news and misinformation

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being disseminated but ultimately

the algorithms work for the

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companies in terms of us spending

more time on their platforms and it

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was about gearing those algorithms

towards a responsible way of

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disseminating information.

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Stay with us on Outside

Source - still to come.

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The latest superhero

film from Marvel

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with an all-black cast of actors

playing the heroes.

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Interest rates have

been held at 0.5%

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but there's speculation the next

rise could come as soon as May.

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The Bank of England has signalled

that rates could rise earlier

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and faster than it thought three

months ago with the global economy

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expanding at its fastest

pace in seven years.

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In order to return inflation to the

target, in order to bring it back to

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target over a more conventional

horizon which means moving it in

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from that three Horizon, it will be

necessary, likely to be necessary to

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increase interest rates, to a

limited degree, in a gradual

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process, but somewhat earlier and to

a greater extent than we had thought

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in November.

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This is Outside Source live

from the BBC newsroom.

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Our lead story:

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Syria has accused the US led

coalition of war crimes after a

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series of attacks kill a hundred

pro-Syrian government forces.

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Bermuda is the first

country in the world

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to repeal same sex marriage.

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The British Oversees

Territory had legalised

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the unions in May last year,

following a Supreme Court ruling.

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Same sex couples who married

in recent months will not

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have their marriage annulled.

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India's Supreme Court has ordered

the government to produce

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a long-term plan for protecting one

of the country's most precious

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landmarks, the Taj Mahal.

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The World Heritage Site faces

a range of challenges,

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including smog and the impact

of millions of visitors.

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Here's a story catching a lot

of people's attention -

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the Norwegian Olympic team in Korea

received a delivery

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of 15,000 eggs -

they had asked for 1500.

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The chefs blamed

a translation error,

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but it could be down to a typo.

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Either way, they were able to return

most of the surplus.

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It's the social media

mammoth that has

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never turned a profit -

until now that is.

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Of course, we're

talking about Twitter.

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It's reported its latest numbers -

in the three months to the end

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of December it made just over $91m.

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But the firm is struggling

to attract users -

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it reported 330-million active

monthly users - no higher

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than the previous period.

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Twitter blamed this

on a clamp down on automated

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or so called bot accounts -

we were talking about those

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controversial accounts with Aleem

just a few minutes ago.

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Let's go to New York.

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And our correspondent

there, Joe Miller.

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What's the reaction

to Twitter's latest figures?

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Positive at last.

The reaction on

the stock market has been buoyant,

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at one point their shares were up

over 20% and the reason for that is

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that if you bought Twitter shares

when they first listed on the stock

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market in 2013, you have had to wait

a long time for any profits and this

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is the first quarter believe it or

not where Twitter has posted a

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profit. The reason is video

advertising, they have brought in

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revenues excessively with that, but

another reason that hasn't been

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getting so many headlines is a

Twitter like many other companies,

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it likes to give its employees stock

options in the company as well as

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their salary and the problem is, you

have got to put that again shall

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profits and it was bringing down

their profits year after year --

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against your profits.

That is

important to know. On a wider

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question.

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And tell us more about the mood

in Wall Street, still nervous?

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Yesterday it looked like the dust

was beginning to settle on Wall

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Street but today the volatility is

back and the Dow Jones dropped over

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thousand points and that is almost

Monday's levels, almost 4% and now

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we are in the region that we call

the real market correction. It looks

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like what has happened here today,

investors have been looking at US

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government debt, Treasury bonds, and

seeing the prices drop to a

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four-year low, and what is

happening, the future interest rate

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rises being priced in and they are

looking at that, worried about

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interest rate rises and beginning to

dampen the economy and they have

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started the sell-off again.

Joe,

thanks for joining us. Another

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business story.

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19 top Japanese bosses have met with

British Prime Minister Theresa May,

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seeking clarification

on the UK's industrial strategy

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for the time after Brexit.

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After the meeting, the Japanese

Ambassador to the UK explained

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the threat to Japanese companies

if the UK did not secure a

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frictionless trade deal with the EU.

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If there is no possibility of

continuing operation in UK, not

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Japanese only, but no private

company can continue operation. As

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simple as that. This is all

high-stakes that I think all of us

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need to keep in mind.

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The latest superhero film

from Marvel has its European

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premiere tonight in London -

it's called Black Panther -

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it hasn't opened in the US yet.

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But here's an easy way

gauge its significance.

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Time's new cover: Behind

the revolutionary power

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of 'Black Panther'.

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The film features an all-black cast

of actors playing the heroes.

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Our Entertainment Correspondent

Lizo Mzimba reports.

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The free cinema trip would have been

welcome enough for these

0:22:470:22:50

American schoolchildren,

their sheer joy is because

0:22:500:22:52

the movie is Black Panther.

0:22:520:22:56

Such is the film's significance,

people around the world are crowd

0:22:560:22:59

sourcing money to give black

children in particular

0:22:590:23:02

the opportunity to watch

it on the big screen.

0:23:020:23:05

People like this actress from

Peckham in London, she has so far

0:23:050:23:08

raised around £4,000.

0:23:080:23:12

I think it's just a film

you don't really see,

0:23:120:23:15

you don't see black superheroes

in the big blockbusters.

0:23:150:23:20

The positive representation is good

for people growing up in this area

0:23:200:23:23

but I think all over the world.

0:23:230:23:28

Black Panther is being seen

as a cultural milestone.

0:23:280:23:30

A predominantly black cast leading

a big budget blockbuster.

0:23:300:23:40

People making it a reality for kids

who maybe wouldn't be able to go

0:23:420:23:45

to the movies and experience it,

I think it is beautiful, man.

0:23:450:23:51

It's the kind of film many have

been waiting decades

0:23:510:23:53

for Hollywood to make,

not only a host of black role models

0:23:530:23:56

but also strong female

characters at its heart.

0:23:560:24:03

Black Panther is a moment

and hopefully it's one...

0:24:030:24:07

It will obviously exist for long

after this particular moment.

0:24:070:24:09

We want the momentum to keep going.

0:24:090:24:13

I don't think it is Black Panther's

responsibility to change the world.

0:24:130:24:18

How important was it for you making

sure this was primarily

0:24:180:24:21

a piece of entertainment,

even with this huge amount of social

0:24:210:24:24

responsibility that was inevitably

going to come into the equation?

0:24:240:24:32

That's what it is.

0:24:320:24:33

It's not a political lecture,

you know what I mean?

0:24:330:24:35

It's a movie.

0:24:350:24:36

It's got to work as that.

0:24:360:24:43

And that is a movie expected to have

one of the biggest openings ever,

0:24:430:24:46

and more importantly,

show others in the film world how

0:24:460:24:49

lucrative diversity on screen can be

in the 21st-century.

0:24:490:24:59

Much more to come. But a reminder of

our top story.

0:25:040:25:11

Syria has accused the US-led

coalition of war crimes,

0:25:110:25:14

after it carried out airstrikes

on forces fighting for

0:25:140:25:20

the Syrian government.

0:25:200:25:27

Assad's government accusing the US

of a massacre in this area over Tim

0:25:270:25:31

on. -- Dair Uzhor. And to the east

of the region, our correspondent has

0:25:310:25:41

said this. The war isn't ending, he

has said.

0:25:410:25:56

We are staying across the action. So

many people involved. Do stay with

0:25:560:26:02

us.

0:26:020:26:04

Good evening. That time of day but

we have a look at what the weather

0:26:090:26:13

is doing around the world and is

quite active at the moment. -- when

0:26:130:26:17

we have a look. The cold air digging

in Baha'i, it is there on Friday --

0:26:170:26:26

digging in behind. We might have

more snow in the north and that will

0:26:260:26:31

combine later Friday and into the

weekend so more disruptive rain and

0:26:310:26:35

freezing rain and snow potentially,

and no sign of any much-needed rain

0:26:350:26:40

across the California area. Maybe a

few showers into the beginning of

0:26:400:26:46

next week but until then it looks

dry and warm. As we head into Africa

0:26:460:26:53

we haven't had much rain in the last

three years in Cape Town and there

0:26:530:26:57

is a dangerous drought but there

could be some relief on Friday with

0:26:570:27:00

rain moving in, lasting until

Saturday. An unusual picture with

0:27:000:27:06

low pressure in southern parts of

Africa, that will bring more

0:27:060:27:09

significant rain compared to what we

normally see, and further north,

0:27:090:27:15

Arsenal getting into the 40s, but in

the North West, quite cold for the

0:27:150:27:19

time of year -- temperatures getting

into the 40s. It is cold in China

0:27:190:27:27

and Japan and parts of career, we

have had disruptive snowfall in

0:27:270:27:34

Japan -- Korea. The risk of further

flooding for Indonesia. You can see

0:27:340:27:41

the dip in Lana for Tokyo, about

average for Hong Kong -- the dip in

0:27:410:27:51

temperature. It is building the heat

but they will be storms as well

0:27:510:27:56

generated from the heat and further

west, and then after last week's

0:27:560:27:59

Stormy weather, that we had in New

Zealand, it looks wet and windy

0:27:590:28:05

across the North Island for the next

couple of days. Wellington, heavy

0:28:050:28:10

showers, thunderstorms, but try

weather in Perth, and the high

0:28:100:28:16

temperatures in Sydney -- dry. We

might have more disruptive snowfall

0:28:160:28:24

through Friday across parts of

France and the low countries. It

0:28:240:28:28

will affect the northern part of

Iberia and there are warnings out.

0:28:280:28:36

And then the system coming out of

the north of Africa, that is what is

0:28:360:28:40

keeping Casablanca and Algeria and

Morocco below average and that could

0:28:400:28:44

bring Stormy weather and also very

heavy rain and mountain snow to

0:28:440:28:49

parts of Italy and the Balkans and

grace, as well. -- Greece. Back

0:28:490:28:57

home, nasty weather this weekend, we

have the details later.

0:28:570:29:05

Ally

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This is Outside Source. These are

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News room.

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coalition of war crimes,

0:30:210:30:23

after a series of attacks kill

100 pro-government fighters.

0:30:230:30:25

The UN's calling for a ceasefire -

Russia says it's not

0:30:250:30:28

going to happen.

0:30:280:30:30

We would like to see a ceasefire but

the terrorist, I am not sure they

0:30:300:30:35

are in agreement with what is

proposed.

0:30:350:30:37

proposed.

0:30:370:30:39

Trying to avert another US

government shutdown,

0:30:390:30:40

with the deadline just hours away,

can the politicians

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reach a budget deal?

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Twitter posts its first

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sending its share value surging.

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become the face of food

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maker Gerber as its "Spokesbaby"

for 2018, an action hailed

0:30:540:30:56

by advocates for people

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Welcome to Outside Source.

0:31:140:31:18

North Korea has held a military

parade a day before the opening

0:31:180:31:21

of the Winter Olympics in the South.

0:31:210:31:22

You can see both Kim Jong-Un and his

wife Ree Sull Choo were there.

0:31:220:31:27

The timing was somewhat provocative,

as the annual parade

0:31:270:31:29

usually happens in April.

0:31:290:31:34

Still, it was smaller, shorter,

and shown on North Korean television

0:31:340:31:37

as a recording, not live.

0:31:370:31:38

And there have been,

as we've been reporting,

0:31:380:31:43

several recent signs of a thaw

in inter-Korean relations.

0:31:430:31:46

Here's Stephen McDonnell

in Pyeongchang.

0:31:460:31:52

What I think has happened here is

the North Koreans are trying to

0:31:520:31:56

believe it or not, down play their

own military parade. That is because

0:31:560:32:01

I think the parade had been

organised a long time ago, before

0:32:010:32:04

they decided to send the team to the

Olympic Games here, and now they

0:32:040:32:08

have decided to put all their effort

into coming to the Olympics with Kim

0:32:080:32:14

Jong Un's sister and like, I think

that want the focus to be on that.

0:32:140:32:18

They to have the parade. They are

too embarrassed to call it off. I

0:32:180:32:22

think they are hoping that no-one

will pay much attention to it and

0:32:220:32:28

the focus will be back on their

efforts here in Pyeongchang for the

0:32:280:32:33

winter -- Winter Olympics.

Let us

see what other people aring of that

0:32:330:32:38

parade.

0:32:380:32:39

parade.

0:32:390:32:40

Journalist Jean Lee calls

it:

0:32:400:32:46

One of those high-level talks

will be with this woman,

0:32:490:32:52

Kim Jong-un's sister,

Kim Yo-jung.

0:32:520:32:54

She's part of the North Korean

delegation and will meet

0:32:540:32:57

South Korea's president on Saturday.

0:32:570:33:01

US vice-president Mike Pence has

already met with Moon Jae-in.

0:33:010:33:07

He touched down in Seoul today

and will head onto Pyeongchang next

0:33:070:33:10

for Friday's opening ceremony.

0:33:100:33:15

America's position on the North

Korean charm offensive

0:33:150:33:17

has been pretty clear.

0:33:170:33:18

Mr Pence reiterated it today.

0:33:180:33:25

The United States will can't to

stand shoulder to shoulder, in our

0:33:250:33:29

effort to bring maximum pressure to

bear, on North Korea until that time

0:33:290:33:35

comes, when they finally and

permanently and irreversibly abandon

0:33:350:33:41

their nuclear and ballistic missile

ambitions.

0:33:410:33:49

Let's talk more about this now

with Professor Robert Kelly,

0:33:490:33:51

who you may know is an expert

on the relationship

0:33:510:33:54

between the two Koreas.

0:33:540:33:55

The parade first, they move it, and

then they held it but it was

0:33:550:33:57

smaller, what did you make of it?

It

was a strange choice, the idea of

0:33:570:34:01

putting it before the Olympics

seemed to signal this was a threat

0:34:010:34:06

or intimidation, you had this big

event of global comedy and the day

0:34:060:34:09

before you have the sort of Soviet

style imDimitri parade. Then they

0:34:090:34:17

chose not to show it.

I suppose the

next thing we have to look at we

0:34:170:34:23

have the Winter Olympics starting

but there is talks going on,

0:34:230:34:26

potentially as well with the First

Sister how important do you think

0:34:260:34:30

she is?

I am sceptical that will the

Olympics mean a great deal. It is

0:34:300:34:36

good, right, North Korea is the most

dangerous country in the world and

0:34:360:34:39

with nuclear weapons they are more

dangerous. We should talk to them.

0:34:390:34:42

It is good you have elites meeting

and we have a move 789,er and maybe

0:34:420:34:48

there will be the aura of good

feeling rolling over. But they are

0:34:480:34:53

canny negotiators, I don't think

they are suddenly going to roll over

0:34:530:34:56

on something important to them,

because they feel like you had a

0:34:560:35:03

mood or interethnic, inter-Korean up

lift. I don't see them negotiating

0:35:030:35:07

that way. I am sceptical.

I think it

is shared by many in South Korea,

0:35:070:35:13

who feel well, not least the

business of kind of accommodating

0:35:130:35:17

the athlete but they are wondering

is President moon in the south going

0:35:170:35:23

source far?

Certainly the

Conservative press has hit back

0:35:230:35:28

hard, which was predictable. There

has been a lot of hype in South

0:35:280:35:31

Korea, a bit too much. I am worried

are about expectations management,

0:35:310:35:37

that the media is getting carried

away. We have had

0:35:370:35:42

pseudobreakthroughs but it didn't

happen, then it falls apart and that

0:35:420:35:48

would be my be diction what will

happen this time. I am concerned

0:35:480:35:51

people are getting carried away and

thinking it is a big breakthrough.

0:35:510:35:54

It is another of those gapes of

multi-dimensional chess in which the

0:35:540:36:01

American President, if he gets

impatient has he has a tendency to

0:36:010:36:04

do, you might say all bets are off

with diplomacy.

I think the

0:36:040:36:08

Americans are overreacting. I don't

understand why Vice-President had to

0:36:080:36:12

throw cold water on this. It is

athletes.

Do you think it makes it

0:36:120:36:17

look as if the North Koreans are

pulling their strings.

What a

0:36:170:36:24

matters is when the South Koreans

and North Koreans sit down at the

0:36:240:36:28

table and start talking about things

we are concerned about. That is what

0:36:280:36:33

we need top talk about and the rest

of this is just fluff, the kind doe

0:36:330:36:39

dressing before the real show, that

is what matters.

What matters might

0:36:390:36:43

be the stuff we don't get to see at

all.

I am concerned that everybody

0:36:430:36:48

is getting carried away. Maybe,

maybe, but I am really sceptical,

0:36:480:36:55

the North Koreans aren't those kind

of negotiator, they are tactical,

0:36:550:36:59

gritty, they get into the weeds. I

would be surprised if they roll over

0:36:590:37:03

and give us something we want

because it goes well.

Thank you.

0:37:030:37:07

That was a dose of realism from you.

Sorry.

That is important especially

0:37:070:37:12

with North Korea, before we go, I

have to say we have been talking

0:37:120:37:18

about your other incarnation of BBC

dad, known from your daughter coming

0:37:180:37:21

in. Making you world famous for that

reason. And you were awarded or

0:37:210:37:26

there was an award last night for

this being the moment of the year.

0:37:260:37:30

That is right.

How did that feel?

We

won the key moment of the year from

0:37:300:37:36

the broadcast association, it was,

that was good. It is nice, my wife

0:37:360:37:41

and I are happen it has made people

so happy. We find it amazing this

0:37:410:37:45

keeps going. It was 11 months ago,

and people keep writing to me and

0:37:450:37:50

sending us e-mails but it is nice

that you know, in a year of tough

0:37:500:37:56

news, and things like Isis and stuff

like that people have a moment of

0:37:560:37:59

cheer. That is how we have tried to

take it. People sort of found

0:37:590:38:04

spontaneity of children, that is how

we see it too. It is our kids being

0:38:040:38:08

like little cards are. It is cute.

In a world of news you have to take

0:38:080:38:12

something that makes you smile. You

are a good sport. Thank you for

0:38:120:38:16

talking to us again about the two

Koreas.

0:38:160:38:23

The former Prime Minister

of Bangladesh, now leader

0:38:230:38:25

of the opposition, has been

sentenced to five years

0:38:250:38:27

in jail for corruption.

0:38:270:38:30

Khaleda Zia denied

all charges and said

0:38:300:38:32

they were politically motivated.

0:38:320:38:36

Thousands of her supporters took

to the streets to protest.

0:38:360:38:38

The verdict was read out in a cour

in the Bangladeshi capital Dhaka.

0:38:380:38:41

It means Ms Zia will be barred

from running in this year's

0:38:410:38:44

parliamentary election.

0:38:440:38:45

The BBC's Akbar Hossain

in Dhaka has more.

0:38:450:38:51

It is very significant move, and

this verdict is very important for

0:38:510:38:57

Bangladesh's politics as well,

because Khaleda Zia, while she was

0:38:570:39:01

out of the court, she held a press

conference yesterday, where she said

0:39:010:39:04

that the Government is using the

judiciary in an attempt to keep her

0:39:040:39:10

aside from the up coming general

election hand her supporters believe

0:39:100:39:14

that, but the Government is saying

that you know, this is a corruption

0:39:140:39:18

charge, when Khaleda Zia became the

Prime Minister in Bangladesh in

0:39:180:39:22

1991, then she received some

donations from Kuwait organisation

0:39:220:39:28

which is amounting to $1.2 million

at that time, those money was given

0:39:280:39:35

for helping orphans in Bangladesh,

but the money was not used for

0:39:350:39:41

targeted people, rather half of the

money was diverted to personal can't

0:39:410:39:46

of Khaleda Zia's elder son who is

staying in London now, and

0:39:460:39:52

ultimately, he formed a charitable

trust which was named after his

0:39:520:39:56

father. His father was Bangladesh's

former President. What the court

0:39:560:40:01

says the way money was being

handled, it was not properly being

0:40:010:40:06

used. Prime Minister the -- being

the Prime Minister, it was not used

0:40:060:40:11

for the targeted people. That is why

they cannot avoid the

0:40:110:40:14

responsibility. That is why the

court has given her five years

0:40:140:40:18

imprisonment.

0:40:180:40:18

imprisonment.

0:40:180:40:22

Now I started this half hour talking

about the Winter Olympics -

0:40:220:40:25

if you want more you can

head to our website.

0:40:250:40:28

There is a day-by-day guide

to all the sporting action -

0:40:280:40:34

There is a day-by-day guide

to all the sporting action.

0:40:340:40:38

The number of people killed

in an earthquake that struck off

0:40:380:40:41

the eastern coast of Taiwan

on Tuesday has risen to ten.

0:40:410:40:43

The magnitude 6.0 quake caused

several buildings to partially

0:40:430:40:46

collapse in Hwa-lyan City,

which is close to the epicenter.

0:40:460:40:48

Cindy Sui reports from Taipei.

0:40:480:40:52

Nearly two days after the

earthquake, rescuers are racing

0:40:520:40:58

against time to find people strapped

inside. In one of the of effected

0:40:580:41:03

buildings, that building has been

dissident republican tipped

0:41:030:41:06

dangerously and is leaning towards

the ground. It has been propped up

0:41:060:41:10

by beams, as rescuers go through

every for a, once again to try and

0:41:100:41:14

see if there are any more survivor,

they are also using sniffer dogs to

0:41:140:41:20

search through the rubble of the

second floor, to see if there are

0:41:200:41:23

any signs of people still inside.

Among those still missing are seven

0:41:230:41:28

people who are believed to be

tourists staying at the backpackers

0:41:280:41:31

hotel on the second floor. They

include five Chinese tourists,

0:41:310:41:36

including a 12-year-old boy.

Questions are being raised on

0:41:360:41:41

whether poor construction quality

may have led to the building

0:41:410:41:44

partially collapsing. Experting

looking at the rubble from the

0:41:440:41:50

collapsed floors saying a build

ermay have used more water and less

0:41:500:41:54

cement. Other experts point out

there weren't enough pillars in the

0:41:540:41:59

building and those that were there

were too weak. One experted said

0:41:590:42:04

that if an earthquake were to hit

the capital, which is densely

0:42:040:42:09

populated, it would topple more than

12,000 buildings. That is because

0:42:090:42:15

many of the buildings in Taiwan are

very old, they were built decades

0:42:150:42:21

ago when construction quality was

poor and Government monitoring was

0:42:210:42:26

lacking, many residents are

unwilling to or unable to retrofit

0:42:260:42:32

their buildings. This is a problem

in Taiwan, not just for the

0:42:320:42:35

government but the people to deal

with, especially as aftershocks

0:42:350:42:39

continue to happen since the

earthquake struck. Many are

0:42:390:42:42

predicted to happen in the coming

two weeks as people gather to

0:42:420:42:48

celebrate the Lunar New Year

holiday.

0:42:480:42:52

So-called Islamic State

has released footage,

0:42:520:42:54

which shows female fighters

alongside men, on the

0:42:540:42:56

front lines in Syria.

0:42:560:42:58

Mina Al-Lami from the BBC Monitoring

team picked up on that.

0:42:580:43:01

@minalami #ISIS's video supports

the group's October 2017 U-turn

0:43:010:43:03

on the role of women in jihad,

when it said jihad was a duty

0:43:030:43:06

on women just as it was on men

during times of intense

0:43:060:43:09

fighting and threat.

0:43:090:43:16

Here is Mina Al-Lami from BBC

Monitoring explaining the change.

0:43:160:43:21

The group in the past maintained

that the role of women was confined

0:43:210:43:25

to their homes, to raise children,

and serve the men, however, in

0:43:250:43:34

October, 2017, assism S was under

intense pressure in Raqqa, in Syria,

0:43:340:43:40

it shifted its past rhetoric on the

subject, and said actually woman had

0:43:400:43:46

a religious duty like men to do

Jihad, from the video itself which

0:43:460:43:50

is trying to promote this idea of

women being on the front line, it

0:43:500:43:56

only features a few women. Three at

most. Through that footage we are

0:43:560:44:02

not sure, we can't ascertain these

are women because they are dressed

0:44:020:44:08

from top in bottom in black

clotheses, their faces are covered.

0:44:080:44:15

This image it depicts of the female

warrior, would have you more appeal

0:44:150:44:23

probably among Isis supporters round

the world than the image of the

0:44:230:44:27

subservient Muslim woman whost only

there to serve her husband and

0:44:270:44:30

children. In terms the of reaction

so far, Isis supporters have use it

0:44:300:44:36

as a recruitment tool. They have

said it shames men who are not

0:44:360:44:43

taking part in Jihad. They are using

this shame element to get men to

0:44:430:44:47

join it P

Quite a disturbing story.

0:44:470:44:53

Now I want to turn from IS to

Boko Haram in Nigeria.

0:44:530:44:56

Last year, 133 children were used

by Boko Haram in attacks

0:44:560:44:59

in north-east Nigeria,

and two-thirds of them were girls.

0:44:590:45:01

BBC has been speaking to one

14-year-old who was forced

0:45:010:45:03

into becoming a bomber.

0:45:030:45:04

Her name is Faltima and her story

recreated and animated in this

0:45:040:45:07

specially commissioned project.

0:45:070:45:17

Is only there to serve

0:45:210:45:22

They didn't have guns. I had no idea

they were Boko Haram fighter, they

0:45:310:45:38

give you a choice. Marry a fighter.

Or go on a mission.

0:45:380:45:45

I told them, I don't want to marry,

because I'm still too young.

0:45:450:45:53

The older girls tell us they don't

care how old you are, if you marry

0:45:530:45:56

one of them, they will go to you for

private affairs day and night.

0:45:560:46:05

It is an incentive for the young men

to remain in this group so they form

0:46:050:46:12

family movements within the -- units

within the movement a lot of the

0:46:120:46:17

girls are sent on missions. They

were brainwashing them and telling

0:46:170:46:20

them you are doing this for Allah

and you are going to go straight to

0:46:200:46:24

heaven. They have been told if you

don't do it, we are going to kill

0:46:240:46:27

you.

0:46:270:46:30

I just like the normal teaching.

I find their teachings hard to

0:46:490:46:55

follow.

But even though I don't understand

0:46:550:47:01

properly, I don't think that killing

someone could ever be a lawful act.

0:47:010:47:08

Act. When your time comes they tell

you to look for a place filled with

0:47:080:47:14

non-believers, like a church or a

crowded market place.

0:47:140:47:19

And when you detonate your bomb,

they say you'll enter paradise.

0:47:190:47:27

On my way into town I decided to ask

the first people I met to untie the

0:47:270:47:33

vest but the first people I met were

also members of Boko Haram.

0:47:330:47:39

I spent a month with another group

of fighters in a different camp.

0:47:390:47:45

Just as before, I refused to marry.

They tied their own bomb on me, and

0:47:450:47:54

sent me right back out. In time, I

ran.

0:47:540:48:00

If I was caught again I felt I would

surely be killed. I ran and ran. And

0:48:000:48:08

when I stopped I found myself on a

farm. I asked the farmers to help me

0:48:080:48:16

take off the vest and throw it back

into the forest.

0:48:160:48:21

But they were afraid. Of me.

There is nobody in the North East

0:48:210:48:30

who has not had some experience of

Boko Haram, whether directly or

0:48:300:48:34

indirectly. Almost nobody.

Most people have lost somebody

0:48:340:48:40

result of Boko Haram.

I think they look at the act, rather

0:48:400:48:47

than the girl, and they think well,

this is a young person who is

0:48:470:48:52

willing to eliminate our whole

community, how can we take her back?

0:48:520:48:57

These are kids first of all and

these are victims.

0:48:570:49:04

So you are taken against your Will.

You have lived with these people in

0:49:040:49:09

horrendous condition, away from your

parents, guardian, anybody you know.

0:49:090:49:12

Then you are strapped with

explosives, you come back to the

0:49:120:49:15

community and by the grace of God,

it doesn't go off and now the

0:49:150:49:20

community rejects you. It is very

very sad.

An extraordinary story and

0:49:200:49:28

quite a way to show it, to tell the

story to you a all.

0:49:280:49:37

Take a look at that smile,

because it's just made history.

0:49:370:49:39

This 18-month-old boy

with Down Syndrome has

0:49:390:49:41

been named this year's

0:49:410:49:42

"spokesbaby" for the US baby

food brand Gerber.

0:49:420:49:44

He's Lucas Warren, from the state

of Georgia, and he is the first

0:49:440:49:47

child with Down's to be named

as a "Gerber baby" -

0:49:470:49:51

chosen out of more

than 140,000 entries.

0:49:510:49:52

The company's chief executive said:

"Lucas' winning smile and joyful

0:49:520:49:55

expression won our hearts this year,

and we are all thrilled

0:49:550:49:57

to name him our 2018 Spokesbaby."

0:49:570:50:00

Here's how his parents reacted.

0:50:000:50:10

It is just amazing, I mean, he gets

to spread so much joy and love with

0:50:140:50:21

everybody, and that is what we are

mostly looking forward to.

I am

0:50:210:50:25

excited to see how the world reacts.

We can let you know. The world will

0:50:250:50:30

be fall in love with this baby. It

says so much, because the Gerber

0:50:300:50:35

baby is the ideal baby. Lucas you

are the ideal baby.

Say hi?

Are you

0:50:350:50:42

going to wave? He started already in

his new marketing role and is

0:50:420:50:47

getting lots of good wish, look at

this for example from a mother of a

0:50:470:50:56

two-year-old girl with DS.

0:50:560:51:06

Gd also

0:51:090:51:15

Let us talk to Allyson. When you saw

this, what did you think?

I thought

0:51:220:51:29

it was a fantastic event, and there

aren't many brands that have the

0:51:290:51:34

vision, and the willingness to be

this inclusive, and it communicates

0:51:340:51:40

to the consumer this is a brand that

serves babies of all types, not just

0:51:400:51:47

babies that maybe a certain

ethnicity or a certain capability.

0:51:470:51:51

As we were saying these had a lot of

candidates to choose from. Lots of

0:51:510:51:57

proud parents sending in pictures,

out of 140,000 plus photos the fact

0:51:570:52:03

they have chosen a baby that is

disable add, and challenged, speaks

0:52:030:52:08

volumes and connected to parents

whos you know, may realise that it

0:52:080:52:14

is OK to embrace a child that isn't,

you know, the perfect photoshopped

0:52:140:52:21

ideal picture, that we have had in

the past. We wanted to share at

0:52:210:52:24

least one of those tweets because it

has led toe this outpouring of...

0:52:240:52:31

Social media does a lot for people

in challenging positions, people

0:52:310:52:35

have wanted to share their thoughts

and photos. Not surprisingly the

0:52:350:52:39

knock on effect for generaler as a

brand will be that parents think

0:52:390:52:42

this is a brand that is relevant,

that understands me, that is

0:52:420:52:49

inclusive, and therefore, they are

going to win in the market, where it

0:52:490:52:54

is intensely competitive, a cynical

person might say this is

0:52:540:52:58

manipulative, this is about engaging

and looking politically correct.

0:52:580:53:01

That is not what it is about. It is

genuine. It's a statement of

0:53:010:53:11

againer's qualifies. They are

getting kudos for this, it is not

0:53:110:53:16

the first company to do the right

thing, you found out from your mum.

0:53:160:53:21

So my mum was an actress and model.

She was wheelchair bound but brands

0:53:210:53:31

like in order storm used her in that

air ads in the early 9 #0s, so in

0:53:310:53:36

some ways this isn't new but what it

did for the brand, was it

0:53:360:53:40

communicated to people this is a

Brant that doesn't care what

0:53:400:53:45

customer we serve, we want to sr

customers of all persuasions and

0:53:450:53:50

types really. So it is a fantastic

statement about inclusion.

Do you

0:53:500:53:54

remember the reaction to that?

It

was fantastically positive.

0:53:540:54:01

Nordstrom was well ahead of their

time and putting my mum and others

0:54:010:54:08

in the store catalogue. Not only did

she get fantastic feedback from

0:54:080:54:15

Nordstrom but the customer gave the

store chain really great marks.

Now

0:54:150:54:20

it is interesting of course for

Lucas, on the knees of his parents,

0:54:200:54:24

he has been on one of the big shows,

he will go round and meet lots of

0:54:240:54:30

people. It will be exciting

hopefully not too overwhelming for

0:54:300:54:34

him.

Definitely. I he may not

realise the celebrity he will now

0:54:340:54:40

have and the family as well, and

Gerber as well, hopefully this

0:54:400:54:46

sparks other brands to say if Gerber

is doing this maybe we ought to

0:54:460:54:50

think about it too.

That is a good

point to end on. We are going to end

0:54:500:54:55

this edition of Outside Source,

thank you for being with us to watch

0:54:550:54:59

us tonight.

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