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I thought it was the normal to have a couple of glasses of wine to | :00:08. | :00:13. | |
unwind. In the end, it took over. Britain's middle class | :00:13. | :00:17. | |
professionals are drinking more and more. I just ripped the tubes out | :00:17. | :00:21. | |
of my arm and ran out of the hospital and went to find the | :00:21. | :00:26. | |
nearest place to buy more alcohol. Doctors are increasingly concerned | :00:26. | :00:32. | |
about an epidemic of drinking- related deaths. From the | :00:32. | :00:38. | |
perspective of a clinician we are in the middle of a crisis. But how | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
much is too much? Could you be an alcoholic? I think a lot of people | :00:42. | :00:46. | |
who have a drink problem are very good at hiding it. I'm Alastair | :00:46. | :00:48. | |
Campbell, I know from personal experience the high cost of | :00:49. | :00:53. | |
excessive drinking. I used to lie in bed and wait for her to go out | :00:54. | :00:58. | |
so I could throw up. Tonight I venture into the world of | :00:58. | :01:02. | |
Britain's hidden alcoholics. stopped. I stopped living. I nearly | :01:02. | :01:08. | |
died. I ask whether all of us, individuals as well as Government, | :01:08. | :01:18. | |
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need to reassess our relationship It's the run up to Christmas, | :01:23. | :01:33. | |
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office parties are in full swing To relieve the stress on A&E | :01:36. | :01:39. | |
they've set up field hospitals to deal with some of those who've had | :01:39. | :01:49. | |
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too much. Out with friends apparently. She's got herself | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
absolutely smashed. Unfortunately she's been vomiting. She's lying in | :01:56. | :02:00. | |
her own vomit and she's defecated herself. Tackling binge drinking | :02:00. | :02:03. | |
has become a national obsession. Every morning 200,000 of us go to | :02:03. | :02:12. | |
work with a hangover. Hello. How are you doing? 30 years old no. | :02:12. | :02:22. | |
History. Teenage excess preoccupies the media and successive | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
governments. Many people being treated tonight don't fit that | :02:26. | :02:31. | |
stereotype. Mat jort of them are intelligent professional people. | :02:31. | :02:34. | |
Last night the 30 patients through the treatment centre, all of them | :02:34. | :02:39. | |
worked in the City, all of them had highly paid professional jobs. | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
need to list ton my colleague because we're trying to help you. | :02:43. | :02:48. | |
We're trying to get you home safely. I'm just asking you to sit there on | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
the chair. Figures from the Office for National Statistics show the | :02:50. | :02:55. | |
professional classes are the most frequent drinkers, some are | :02:55. | :03:05. | |
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Britain's hidden alcoholics. I should know. I was one of them. | :03:09. | :03:12. | |
My name's Alastair Campbell. Before working at the heart of the | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
Government as Tony Blair's right- hand man, I had a serious problem | :03:16. | :03:22. | |
with alcohol. Even if I wasn't getting drunk every day, I was | :03:22. | :03:26. | |
certainly drinking every day. Some days I was drinking to excess. Some | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
days, which might run into a succession of days, I'd be drinking | :03:30. | :03:36. | |
to really serious excess. I held down a good job and a steady | :03:36. | :03:44. | |
relationship. I was a functioning alcoholic. I think a lot of people | :03:44. | :03:50. | |
who have a drink problem are very good at hiding it. I think I was | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
good at hiding it for quite a long time. I think that becomes part of | :03:55. | :04:01. | |
what you do. For years, I was in denial, both to myself and my | :04:01. | :04:09. | |
partner, Fiona. I was waking up every morning feeling really bad, | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
ill and I used to lie in bed to wait for her to go out so I could | :04:13. | :04:17. | |
go and throw up. When it got combined with heavy stress levels | :04:17. | :04:24. | |
and his behaviour became quite erratic, irrational, cruel, almost | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
aggressive, at times, he didn't like being told, challenged on his | :04:29. | :04:34. | |
behaviour. My drinking reached its peak while I worked in Fleet Street | :04:34. | :04:39. | |
in the '80s, where the pubs were just an extension of the office. | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
There were many casualties of this culture, one was a colleague of | :04:42. | :04:47. | |
mine, when I started at the Daily Mirror, Anne Robinson. Your | :04:47. | :04:52. | |
drinking got so bad you stopped. stopped. I stopped living. I nearly | :04:52. | :04:58. | |
died. What quantities were you drinking that took you to on | :04:58. | :05:03. | |
livion? Bottles and bottles? No. I think less than a bottle of spirits | :05:03. | :05:08. | |
would have me completely knocked out. Do you feel at that time there | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
were lots of people around who you would say, had a problem with | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
alcohol? There were a lot of people around who drank a great deal. It | :05:15. | :05:21. | |
was just a sea of alcohol. If you were editing the paper, people just | :05:21. | :05:29. | |
came into your office to empty your drinks cabinet. I also paid a heavy | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
price. My drinking coupled with depression triggered a mental | :05:33. | :05:41. | |
breakdown. The word "alcoholic" didn't cross my mind at all until I | :05:41. | :05:49. | |
was in hospital. I wrote down "I am an alcoholic" and I certainly | :05:49. | :05:52. | |
remember that being a moment, that meeting with the psychiatrist being | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
a moment when I realised, you've got a real problem and you've got | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
to sort it out. It forced me to confront my drinking. I needed help | :06:00. | :06:07. | |
and turned to my friends. When you did arrive you were in a pretty bad | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
state. You were smoking like a chimney. You were three packs a day. | :06:11. | :06:17. | |
After that spell in hospital, I sought refuge with an old colleague, | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
Syd Young. At one time I had three mates all being dried out at the | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
same time. I tell you, it was the worst year of my life. We had a | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
news editor in Manchester once, who used to take four-hour lunches. Go | :06:30. | :06:38. | |
to the pub for four hours. Somebody said, you can always say this about | :06:38. | :06:45. | |
him, he never once came back with the smell of food on his breath. | :06:45. | :06:51. | |
By 1986, I'd stopped drinking. The work place booze culture has now | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
largely gone. As a nation, we're drinking less, but paradoxically, | :06:55. | :07:00. | |
more of us are being treated for alcohol problems. 41% of | :07:01. | :07:04. | |
professional men drink more than the recommended limit at least once | :07:04. | :07:07. | |
a week. Professional women are also drinking much more than they used | :07:07. | :07:16. | |
to. Alcohol seemed to be a sort of... Crutch? Yeah. I'd go and meet, | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
if I met a friend for a drink, before I'd got there, I would buy a | :07:20. | :07:25. | |
mini bottle of vot ka to give me that oomph before I got there, to | :07:25. | :07:31. | |
get past the "Hi, how are you?" year-old Harriet is university | :07:32. | :07:35. | |
educated and is from a middle class family. She's an interior designer. | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
How much were you drinking when you were really drinking? Getting to | :07:40. | :07:48. | |
the worst stages, it was half to a litre of vodka a night. Then I just | :07:48. | :07:55. | |
started on the wine, Iing this -- thinking that would be less bad. | :07:55. | :08:00. | |
Instead of or as well as? Instead, I'd have two or three bottles a | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
night. It was ease tkwror drink indoors because you didn't have to | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
pay for each drink, of course, I could also get myself as drunk as | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
possible and not to -- have to worry about getting home and making | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
a fool of myself. Harriet's drinking put her in hospital. She's | :08:17. | :08:24. | |
now been dry for three-and-a-half years. Recent figures show nearly | :08:24. | :08:30. | |
9,000 people die each year in the UK from alcohol-related diseases. | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
Liver disease in general is the only major cause of death in | :08:33. | :08:39. | |
Britain still increasing year on year. The risk of developing liver | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
disease related to alcohol starts at round about two bottles of wine | :08:43. | :08:48. | |
a week. The risk at that level is pretty small. Above four bottles of | :08:48. | :08:55. | |
wine a week, the risk starts to curve up. When you're drinking the | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
equivalent of eight or ten bottles of wine a week you have a | :08:59. | :09:04. | |
substantially risk of developing liver disease. 100 British people | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
are dying from alcoholic liver disease every week. In terms of why | :09:08. | :09:12. | |
people are drinking too much, why is it the liver that's the | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
important organ that you have to worry about? Because your liver | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
breaks down the alcohol that you drink. Daily drinking can be | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
dangerous to your liver, which is why Parliament science Select | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
Committee advises us all to give our liver a break at least two days | :09:28. | :09:33. | |
a week, if not, it might end up like this. This liver here was | :09:34. | :09:39. | |
taken from somebody who died from oesophageal bleed. It's a cirrhotic | :09:39. | :09:45. | |
liver. If I turn it over here, you can see... Spots. There's spots | :09:45. | :09:53. | |
here. These nodules are fatty and scar tissue. A drink scarred liver | :09:53. | :09:57. | |
can't filter blood so you die of internal bleeding. And it's not | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
just liver disease that Britain's hidden alcoholics have to worry | :10:01. | :10:07. | |
about. Alcohol is to blame for 13,000 new cancer cases each year. | :10:07. | :10:12. | |
The link between cancer and alcohol is really very strong. Mouth and | :10:12. | :10:17. | |
throat cancer, particularly strong, but also oesophagus and stomach and | :10:17. | :10:22. | |
we now know other, such as breast cancer, there's a definite link to | :10:22. | :10:31. | |
alcohol consumption. I remember they said, you can do anything you | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
like, the only thing you can't do is drink. I thought that doesn't | :10:35. | :10:40. | |
leave much. What the helm I going to do? Persistent drinkers who | :10:40. | :10:46. | |
don't heed the warning signs might end up here. I was so concerned | :10:46. | :10:51. | |
about my lifestyle in the end, because I'd lost everything, if it | :10:51. | :10:56. | |
wasn't for this place, I would have been dead by now. Clouds House in | :10:56. | :11:01. | |
Wiltshire is a leading addiction treatment centre. In almost 30 | :11:01. | :11:09. | |
years its counsellors have treated patients hooked on a number of | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
substances. But they're treating more and more whose problem is | :11:12. | :11:16. | |
alcohol. Suddenly I realised, I don't know where it comes from, the | :11:16. | :11:19. | |
thought that cuts through everything, drink is the one thing | :11:19. | :11:22. | |
that has caused this, the underlying factor to all my | :11:22. | :11:27. | |
failures in life. With a six-week stay here costing �12,000, if you | :11:27. | :11:33. | |
don't get funding, you need to be wealthy. The day I showed up I met | :11:33. | :11:37. | |
Mark, who's on the board of a pharmaceutical company and Ben, | :11:37. | :11:42. | |
who's an actor and Theresa, who runs her own business. I suppose it | :11:42. | :11:47. | |
started off in that, you know, middle class habit of having wine | :11:47. | :11:51. | |
when I came home from work and opening a bottle to cook and | :11:51. | :11:55. | |
finding I'd got through that by the time I'd finished cooking and | :11:55. | :11:59. | |
needing to open another bottle with my partner to drink with the meal | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
and that would be daily. You had your first drink at 11? I first | :12:03. | :12:09. | |
drink I really remember was at I shoot. It was plum vodka. It burnt | :12:09. | :12:14. | |
the back of my throat, down the throat, into my schtum ark, and | :12:14. | :12:20. | |
like a fire work, I thought it was normal to have a couple of glasses | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
of wine to unwind. You sit down and you relax, that aahhh moment, | :12:25. | :12:30. | |
that's when I wanted something, a treat. But it wasn't a treat in the | :12:30. | :12:35. | |
end. It took over. How bad did things get for you that you ended | :12:35. | :12:42. | |
up here? Really bad. Really, I was emotionally, spiritually bankrupt. | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
My life was a mess. I was brought into this hospital by family | :12:46. | :12:52. | |
members who found me at home and with such a low liver function, my | :12:52. | :12:57. | |
health was deteriorating very, very rapidly. Tried to go it alone. I | :12:57. | :13:01. | |
tried not to drink, but I couldn't get past 10am. Hi to have a drink. | :13:02. | :13:06. | |
I couldn't do it. I just ripped the tubes out of my arm and ran out of | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
the hospital and went to find the nearest place where I could buy | :13:10. | :13:15. | |
more alcohol. It's the only thing I knew at that time. There's so much | :13:15. | :13:22. | |
focus from policy makers, from media on binge drinking, but I | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
think Britain's drink problem goes much, much deeper. I think you're | :13:26. | :13:31. | |
talking a lot of people for whom drink does endanger work, health, | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
relationships and in a very small number of circumstances, their | :13:34. | :13:43. | |
lives. Traditionally it's been the working class linked to binge | :13:43. | :13:53. | |
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drinking. Towns don't come any more working class than this, Burnley. | :13:58. | :14:07. | |
It's home to my football team. The ritual of a pre-match drink has | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
been a rite of passage for the working man for decades. Step | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
behind-the-scenes and you'll see the professional classes hard at it | :14:16. | :14:22. | |
in the executive boxes. How many people are in today? 320, which is | :14:22. | :14:29. | |
maximum for a match day. 500 for a Christmas party last night. | :14:29. | :14:33. | |
much would you have made last night? With other functions around | :14:33. | :14:38. | |
the club �10,000 on alcohol sales last night about 14 tons of beer | :14:38. | :14:43. | |
will come into this place over the next seven days. 14 tons? Yes. | :14:43. | :14:50. | |
with many businesses, alcohol is key to Burnley's financial survival. | :14:50. | :14:54. | |
Catering turns over �2 million a year. Of that about 40% is alcohol | :14:54. | :15:00. | |
or drink sales. All in all, it's crucial to the long-term success of | :15:00. | :15:10. | |
Last year, the drinks market was worth �36bn in Britain. It also | :15:10. | :15:14. | |
supports two million jobs. But a million alcohol-related hospital | :15:14. | :15:24. | |
admissions last year cost the NHS It's important to remember millions | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
of individuals do not drink to excess. But I think pretty sizeable | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
numbers of people, many of them working in public services, in | :15:32. | :15:35. | |
senior positions in the private sector, doing big jobs, they have a | :15:35. | :15:45. | |
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relationship with alcohol that is I just think, because it is such a | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
big parts of everybody's lives, we're not really looking at it. | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
The health professionals are looking at it, and they're worried. | :15:56. | :16:00. | |
If you go back 20 or 30 years, and you look at the mortality for the | :16:00. | :16:03. | |
whole range of different diseases, the mortality for all of those | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
diseases has down by between 20, 30, maybe up to 60 or 70% for some of | :16:07. | :16:12. | |
the smoking-related diseases. For liver disease, mortality has gone | :16:12. | :16:19. | |
up 400% or 500% over that period of time. Year on year, admissions seem | :16:19. | :16:21. | |
to rise, the number of patients with severe liver disease from | :16:21. | :16:27. | |
alcohol seems to rise. So from the perspective of the clinician, we | :16:27. | :16:33. | |
are in the middle of a crisis. Professor Gilmore believes that | :16:33. | :16:36. | |
crisis could result in as many as 210,000 unnecessary deaths over the | :16:36. | :16:38. | |
next 20 years unless the government introduces effective policies to | :16:38. | :16:48. | |
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The rise in wine-drinking coincided with the introduction of cheap | :16:54. | :16:58. | |
travel to the Continent in the '70s. We began embracing all things | :16:58. | :17:05. | |
European. The local wine goes with the meal. You drink as much as you | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
like. It's all included in the price. | :17:09. | :17:12. | |
The bottle of wine has become the centerpiece of the middle-class | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
gathering. You're making dinner, you knock | :17:15. | :17:18. | |
back a few glasses of wine. You're eating dinner, you knock back a few | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
more. And it's almost like that doesn't count as alcohol | :17:21. | :17:31. | |
Booze cruises became a part of our culture. I think the wine is very | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
good, very good value indeed. It's much cheaper than at home, of | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
course. Our thirst has been unquenchable. Since 1970, our | :17:39. | :17:44. | |
consumption of wine has gone up fivefold. 80p a bottle. | :17:44. | :17:47. | |
Wine-drinking, once uncommon in Britain, is now the norm. In 2010, | :17:47. | :17:55. | |
we drank 1.6 billion bottles of the In the UK, we have adopted a | :17:55. | :17:57. | |
Mediterranean drinking pattern, so people will frequently drink with | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
meals and they'll drink throughout the week, but we haven't lost our | :18:00. | :18:03. | |
feast drinking pattern, so everybody likes to go out and get | :18:03. | :18:09. | |
completely canned on a Friday night if they can as well. So we've got | :18:09. | :18:16. | |
the worst of both worlds at the It wasn't just wine that we | :18:16. | :18:20. | |
imported from Europe. Here I must admit that the Labour government I | :18:20. | :18:25. | |
worked for might have contributed to our current alcohol crisis. In | :18:25. | :18:31. | |
2005, we introduced 24-hour licensing. | :18:31. | :18:33. | |
I never really bought the argument that Britain would suddenly become | :18:33. | :18:39. | |
a Continental-style drinking nation. I think we've always had this | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
tendency to...where there's drink, to drink it and to drink it to | :18:42. | :18:51. | |
Does that make it a mistake? I don't know, it's complicated. | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
On the one hand, it is quite nice that there is more a sense in the | :18:55. | :18:59. | |
afternoon of London and other cities being more European. | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
But I think it is entirely possible to see a link between the increased | :19:03. | :19:13. | |
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availability of alcohol and But 24-hour licensing is not solely | :19:13. | :19:21. | |
to blame. The big change has been the shift to drinking at home. | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
If you look at my patients with cirrhosis, we have asked this | :19:24. | :19:27. | |
question. Less than 5% do all their drinking in the pub. 95% are | :19:27. | :19:35. | |
drinking at home because that's The derelict pub is a familiar | :19:35. | :19:41. | |
sight around the country. Every week, 16 pubs call time for good. | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
Gone with them are the subtle controls they exert over the way we | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
drink. It's a paradox that the decline of the pub has come | :19:49. | :19:55. | |
alongside a rise in drink problems. I think what the pub did was it | :19:55. | :20:04. | |
just had its own checks and balances. Just think through the | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
cliches, the burly landlord who was able to step in if things were | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
getting out of hand. And there are other real obstacles to pub excess. | :20:11. | :20:16. | |
A �10 bottle of supermarket wine can cost you 30 at the bar. And you | :20:16. | :20:21. | |
can only buy it when the pub is open. In 1970, 90% of pints were | :20:21. | :20:27. | |
poured in a public house. These days it's only 50%. The other half | :20:27. | :20:32. | |
are bought much more cheaply in supermarkets and off-licences. | :20:32. | :20:35. | |
I would regret the fact that pubs are closing down in this country. I | :20:35. | :20:41. | |
think they do provide a social milieu, particularly in rural areas. | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
And drinking is controlled to some extent, and those controls aren't | :20:44. | :20:50. | |
there at home. Women, on the whole, tend to drink | :20:50. | :20:56. | |
at home much more than guys. So you would go home, finish work, go home, | :20:56. | :21:03. | |
drink. Yeah. On your own? Yeah, probably. As many women as men are | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
now being treated for alcoholic liver disease, according to the | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
doctors we've met. Despite the alcohol industry's promotion of | :21:10. | :21:11. | |
responsible drinking, health campaigners believe greater | :21:11. | :21:19. | |
restrictions are necessary. In France, a country which likes a | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
bottle or two, there are strict controls. If you go across the | :21:23. | :21:25. | |
Channel to France, there's a complete ban on broadcast | :21:25. | :21:29. | |
advertising, there's a complete ban on sports sponsorship. We really do | :21:29. | :21:33. | |
have a very liberal attitude, and that's fine if we are living in a | :21:33. | :21:37. | |
healthy way with our favourite drug. But the evidence is overwhelmingly | :21:37. | :21:44. | |
Alcohol companies in Britain spend �800m a year on advertising, and | :21:44. | :21:47. | |
these days their products routinely bear Drink Aware labelling designed | :21:47. | :21:57. | |
But the contents of this orange file show the marketing industry's | :21:57. | :22:06. | |
approach can challenge those These are, erm...strategy documents, | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
basically. What we are seeing here is the thinking that goes behind | :22:11. | :22:15. | |
the ad. We see the ad out on the billboards or on the TV, this is | :22:15. | :22:18. | |
the thinking that's gone into the making of those ads. These | :22:18. | :22:20. | |
advertising-agency documents were examined by Professor Hastings as | :22:20. | :22:26. | |
part of a parliamentary inquiry into the alcohol industry. This | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
takes you through a day, so 5.30, pop to the shops on the way home | :22:30. | :22:35. | |
from work, buy some shots on impulse. 6.30, get ready for night | :22:35. | :22:40. | |
out, get in the mood. 7.30, drinks at home to start night off, cheaper | :22:41. | :22:46. | |
than a round in the pub, neck a few shots between beers or wines. | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
beer and wine? With beer and wine, so they've already had what is way | :22:50. | :22:54. | |
beyond the recommended limit at this point. The documents were | :22:54. | :22:56. | |
submitted to Halewood International, producers of Sidekick Shots, and | :22:56. | :23:03. | |
the alcohol giant Diageo, who make Smirnoff. | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
This is about this whole shots thing. I think what's interesting | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
here is the clear recognition that shots are used in a very functional | :23:10. | :23:17. | |
way just to intoxicate. "What are pub man's needs at this point?" | :23:17. | :23:20. | |
don't think you need to go further than the graphics on this, which | :23:20. | :23:24. | |
shows the development of man from an alcohol industry point of view. | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
They're trying to work out how that they can position their product so | :23:27. | :23:32. | |
that it will encourage the process of consumption. And you might say, | :23:32. | :23:36. | |
if this was a completely harmless product, so what? This is a | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
psychoactive drug that causes immense harm. Professor Hastings | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
believes the industry presence on the current government's Alcohol | :23:43. | :23:49. | |
Working Group is ill-advised. It is akin to putting the fox in | :23:49. | :23:53. | |
charge of the hen coop. To get our drinking as a nation down to | :23:53. | :23:56. | |
healthy levels would involve a massive cut in the sales of the | :23:56. | :23:59. | |
alcohol industry. They are never going to co-operate with that | :23:59. | :24:04. | |
objective, never, they can't. I showed the documents to an | :24:04. | :24:08. | |
industry spokesman, Gavin Partington. Let's be very clear, | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
these papers were suggestions made by marketing agencies who are | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
pitching to brand owners for work. It's not unusual for marketing | :24:15. | :24:17. | |
agencies to put forward materials that frankly, on reflection, the | :24:17. | :24:20. | |
brand owners judge to be inappropriate and unacceptable, and | :24:20. | :24:26. | |
they get binned. The truth of the matter is that it is not in the | :24:27. | :24:29. | |
industry's long-term interests to have products marketed in a way | :24:29. | :24:39. | |
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which brings the industry into Halewood International told us, | :24:53. | :24:55. | |
"Any suggestion that the documents examined by Professor Hastings are | :24:55. | :24:57. | |
representative of Halewood International's attitude and | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
behaviour at any time is groundless, having been created some years ago | :25:00. | :25:10. | |
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by an external marketing agency to The Government are conducting a | :25:21. | :25:24. | |
major strategy review on alcohol and this month launched a campaign | :25:24. | :25:33. | |
to highlight the damage excessive If we think there's a problem, then | :25:33. | :25:37. | |
the best way to deal with the problem is to admit it, face up to | :25:37. | :25:42. | |
it. You can't expect the government to run your lives, and nor would | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
you want them to. So ultimately it is about people coming to their own | :25:47. | :25:53. | |
arrangement with alcohol. The patients at Clouds have come to | :25:53. | :26:00. | |
their own arrangement, total I said no myself for 13 years, but | :26:00. | :26:06. | |
then I started having the odd drink again. I feel as though I'm more in | :26:06. | :26:11. | |
control this time around. But I still wonder if I'm doing the right | :26:11. | :26:14. | |
thing. When I've had a drink, because I | :26:14. | :26:17. | |
stopped for a long time and then occasionally do have a drink, and | :26:17. | :26:21. | |
for me it is that feeling about, "Can I be normal like these other | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
people are, who do seem to be able to have a couple of drinks and then | :26:25. | :26:29. | |
that's it?" For example, Fiona, my partner, I have never, ever seen | :26:29. | :26:33. | |
her drunk. I have never seen her drink more than a couple of glasses | :26:33. | :26:37. | |
of wine, and I kind of think, "Why can't I do that?" So you have two | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
large glasses of wine. Is it an effort to say, "No thank you"? | :26:41. | :26:47. | |
it is. After the two. It is, and then I like... I like the feeling | :26:47. | :26:52. | |
of being able to say no. I think people's perceptions of what is an | :26:52. | :26:55. | |
alcoholic is interesting, because actually it's not the guy with the | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
brown paper bag and the strong cider or the cheap vodka or | :26:58. | :27:03. | |
whatever it is. It can be two glasses of wine a night, if it's | :27:03. | :27:08. | |
what you need. And you'd only know, and I'd challenge anybody I know to | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
say, "Well, stop for a month, go to the same places, do the same things, | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
interact with the same people and just remove the alcohol from the | :27:15. | :27:19. | |
equation and see how you feel." And then ask yourself the honest | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
question, "Well, maybe I do have a problem." I see a psychiatrist | :27:23. | :27:28. | |
about my depression, and he thinks it is a bad idea. To drink? | :27:28. | :27:32. | |
drink at all. Because it's depressive. It is interesting, see, | :27:32. | :27:40. | |
because since we started to do this There's a place for rules and | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
regulations, and the government has to get them right. But we need to | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
look to ourselves. If you can't take at least two days off a week, | :27:49. | :27:53. | |
you might just have a problem. I feel my own relationship with | :27:53. | :27:57. | |
alcohol is secure. But I've probably just traded one addiction | :27:57. | :28:01. | |
for another. I didn't start running till I | :28:01. | :28:09. | |
It's true that when I get into something, I do tend to really get | :28:09. | :28:15. | |
into it. I think I found another addiction. But it was an addiction | :28:15. | :28:25. | |
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