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This man is about to have a Work Capability Assessment to see if he | :00:14. | :00:24. | |
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can stay on disability benefits or More than two million claimants | :00:25. | :00:30. | |
have to take this test. Its aim? To weed out bogus | :00:30. | :00:35. | |
claimants and get those who can work back into employment. But has | :00:35. | :00:41. | |
it gone too far? I think the people who are genuinely unwell, have not | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
done anything wrong in their lives that have to do this test is | :00:46. | :00:50. | |
despicable. The Government pays ATOS Healthcare to run the system. | :00:50. | :00:56. | |
Yet thousands of disabled people say it is pushing them to the brink. | :00:57. | :01:02. | |
Our client has taken several overdoses and the assessor said | :01:02. | :01:06. | |
"why aren't you dead?". Government's troubleshooter thinks | :01:06. | :01:16. | |
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it needs to change. People will The welfare state is expensive. �13 | :01:28. | :01:32. | |
billion of taxes is spent on incapacity benefits. Now the | :01:32. | :01:36. | |
Government says the system needs to be tightened up and introduced the | :01:36. | :01:42. | |
Welfare Reform Act to do that. Almost �1 in every three spent by | :01:42. | :01:47. | |
the Government is spent on welfare. We need a welfare system that the | :01:47. | :01:50. | |
country can properly afford. Disability benefits is one of the | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
areas target. Nearly 7% of the working age population in the UK | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
claim benefits because they're too ill to work. Some, are simply lying. | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
The man in the white T-shirt told benefit officials he couldn't walk | :02:04. | :02:08. | |
without a stick, but he was capable of doing this, attacking passers by | :02:08. | :02:13. | |
and the police. Then there's this man who claimed disability benefits | :02:13. | :02:19. | |
but still managed to run the London Marathon. Last week, this Lottery | :02:19. | :02:23. | |
millionaire was jailed for benefit fraud. The outright cheats are a | :02:23. | :02:30. | |
minority. Less than half a per cent of incapacity claims are said to be | :02:30. | :02:36. | |
fraudulent. The real issue is not the scamers but those who are fit | :02:36. | :02:43. | |
enough to work if given help. The Government's man in charge denies | :02:43. | :02:45. | |
that. It is not a financial exercise, it is about saying it is | :02:46. | :02:53. | |
a huge waste of life, for so many people to be left at home on | :02:53. | :02:56. | |
benefits doing nothing. Nothing asked the question do you have the | :02:56. | :03:00. | |
potential to return to work. I passionately believe, if we can | :03:00. | :03:05. | |
help people back in work, they are we are off than stranded at home on | :03:05. | :03:09. | |
benefits for the rest of their lives. It was the last Labour | :03:09. | :03:15. | |
Government which began to reform the capacity benefit system in 2008. | :03:15. | :03:19. | |
For the new benefit, claimant support allowance, claimants would | :03:19. | :03:25. | |
be tested to come off the benefit and do some sort of work. The test | :03:25. | :03:27. | |
was called a Work Capability Assessment. The current Government | :03:27. | :03:32. | |
picked up the ball and kept running. They enhanced the test and now | :03:32. | :03:37. | |
everyone who is on benefits because they're too ill to work has to be | :03:37. | :03:45. | |
assessed. Four years since the assessment yaes introduction, a | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
third of those claiming Incapacity Benefit have been found fit for | :03:48. | :03:54. | |
work. Is it just weeding out the undeserving. I want to meet the | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
people at the sharp end. Chris Davies is one of them. Can we stop | :03:59. | :04:04. | |
for a minute. Are you OK? Yeah. Chris worked all his life in the | :04:04. | :04:07. | |
steel industry and then as a lorry driver. | :04:07. | :04:13. | |
I enjoyed the job. It was long hours. Early morning starts, but I | :04:13. | :04:17. | |
enjoyed it. In 2009 he became seriously ill with a chest | :04:17. | :04:23. | |
infection that wouldn't go away. It turned out to be the chronic lunge | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
disease emphysema. One morning his breathing was so laboured he was | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
rushed to hospital. One of the doctors called us in the office and | :04:32. | :04:38. | |
she told me he had two days to live, she said I would advise you look | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
through the holiday snaps and remember all the good times. And | :04:42. | :04:48. | |
prepare for his funeral. Chris pulled through but returninging to | :04:48. | :04:54. | |
work was out of the question. He was assessed. Found unfit for work | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
and given Employment Support Allowance under �90 a week. He | :04:57. | :05:02. | |
settled into a life, coping with his illness. For Chris, climbing | :05:02. | :05:09. | |
the stairs can be a challenge can't walk far. 50, metres before I | :05:09. | :05:17. | |
have to stop. I have to lean against something, catch my breath. | :05:17. | :05:23. | |
Last year he was called in for another Work Capability Assessment. | :05:23. | :05:27. | |
It is a point-based system. The more points you get the less able | :05:27. | :05:32. | |
you are to work. You need 15 points or more to keep your benefits. | :05:32. | :05:37. | |
In May, I received a letter saying I hadn't passed the medical | :05:37. | :05:43. | |
assessment, and I was fit for work. I was shocked, because there was no | :05:43. | :05:51. | |
way I could work, not physically. And, according to my doctor I was | :05:52. | :05:57. | |
unfit for work. The assessment was clear, Chris received no points. He | :05:57. | :06:02. | |
was fit for work. When they turned around they were stopping my | :06:02. | :06:08. | |
benefits altogether, I thought, what are we going to do? He could | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
still claim Job Seekers' Allowance, only if he is well enough to | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
actively seek work. Some groups running the work programme told | :06:16. | :06:21. | |
Panorama, that many people they're asked to deal with, are clearly | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
unfit for work. Chris appealed and went to a tribunal. It caused me a | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
lot of stress, because I was thinking, if I go to the tribunal | :06:29. | :06:35. | |
and lose that, I wouldn't get any money at all. I wouldn't be able to | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
work. Chris won. His benefits were | :06:38. | :06:48. | |
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restored and back dated. His case is far from unique. More than | :06:50. | :06:56. | |
176,000 case go to tribunal cases, costing the taxpayer millions of | :06:56. | :07:01. | |
pounds. The figures suggest about 30% of the cases are being | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
overturned. Welfare rights adviser, Neil Bateman says his success vait | :07:05. | :07:11. | |
higher. I think I've won all of them so far. Other advisers are | :07:11. | :07:17. | |
getting very similar success rates, 80-90% with advisers is common, | :07:17. | :07:21. | |
which is ridiculous, that we're getting a fantastic success rate. | :07:21. | :07:27. | |
What does that tell but the system? It is badly thraued the assessment | :07:27. | :07:30. | |
process, the way they gather the evidence and quality of the | :07:30. | :07:39. | |
decision-making is badly wrong. If you have 176,000 appeals a year, | :07:39. | :07:43. | |
and a third of them are successful, that can't be right? I think you | :07:43. | :07:49. | |
have to look at why the appeals are successful. I wish the judges | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
looked beyond the first impression and thought is it really the case, | :07:52. | :07:58. | |
that the people could not return to any form of work. All over Britain, | :07:58. | :08:05. | |
we've been hearing from people, who are appealing. I've been diagnose | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
with the inflamatory arthritis, which is causing constant joint | :08:10. | :08:16. | |
pain. I used to be a freelance photographer, however, I developed | :08:16. | :08:22. | |
a severe case of depression, for which I am receiving a high doesage | :08:22. | :08:25. | |
of medication. The decision about whether someone is fit to work, | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
will be taken by officials at the Department of Work and Pensions, | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
based just here. But a significant, factor in making that decision, | :08:33. | :08:38. | |
will be the initial assessment, carried out at ATOS Healthcare, | :08:38. | :08:46. | |
which is a private company. It is this case that has come in for huge | :08:46. | :08:51. | |
criticism and the advisers helping them overturn the decisions made. | :08:51. | :08:56. | |
They'll ask you things like can you move an empty cardboard box. And | :08:56. | :09:00. | |
that's because one of the activities is your ability to reach | :09:00. | :09:06. | |
and move things around. But I can't think of a job, that involves | :09:06. | :09:11. | |
moving empty cardboard boxes. Government admits there's room for | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
improvement. Two years ago, they appointed, Professor Malcolm | :09:16. | :09:20. | |
Harrington to independently review the system. He believes the test on | :09:20. | :09:25. | |
its own has serious limitations. you rely entirely on the computer | :09:25. | :09:31. | |
programme, yes it won't work. And I think it is now shown not to work. | :09:31. | :09:35. | |
You have to involve human beings, looking at all the information that | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
is available, because they're dealing with human beings. We've | :09:38. | :09:46. | |
also spoken to five people who have carried out the test. Like all ATOS | :09:46. | :09:48. | |
Healthcare assessors, they're medically qualified. Most were | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
afraid to go on the record, because they signed confidentiality | :09:53. | :09:57. | |
agreements. One gave their permission to use the statement and | :09:57. | :10:02. | |
told us the system are rigid. are people you would like to award | :10:02. | :10:07. | |
ESA to, and can't. If you're doing it honestly, they don't get the | :10:07. | :10:12. | |
points and that's it, they're stuffed. We've decide today follow | :10:12. | :10:17. | |
two people, going through the assessment process. This is Marie | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
Aldridge from Hertfordshire. She's 21, and has a condition called fieb | :10:21. | :10:27. | |
fieb, - fibromyalgia which means her joints can dislocate. I left | :10:27. | :10:32. | |
school at 16, I had various jobs, mainly customer service call type | :10:33. | :10:39. | |
things, but I lost a few of them, down to my fibromyalgia. So, I gave | :10:39. | :10:46. | |
in. And I pride for ESA. This will be Marie's first ESA assessment and | :10:46. | :10:50. | |
she's agreed for it to be secretly filmed. | :10:50. | :11:00. | |
Can you lift the arms? Put them to the neck and keep them straight. | :11:00. | :11:05. | |
the same day in North Wales, Chris Davies is attending his third | :11:05. | :11:10. | |
assessment, despite previously winning an appeal, which made it | :11:10. | :11:20. | |
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Will these assessments help reveal why some disabled people are denied | :11:24. | :11:34. | |
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This doctor doesn't ask him for more detail about his breathing or | :11:34. | :11:39. | |
medical evidence. But then that's not his job. He's here to conduct | :11:39. | :11:43. | |
the assessment as it is designed and follows procedures properly. | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
But it is very different from how Chris's own doctors monitor his | :11:49. | :11:53. | |
condition. They can't tell us by listening to it. The consultant, | :11:53. | :12:00. | |
every time he sends me for an X-ray, and takes blood samples as well. | :12:00. | :12:05. | |
Marie's assessment, takes 20 minutes. | :12:05. | :12:08. | |
ATOS insiders told us they're pressed for time, because of the | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
amount of paperwork they have to do, for each examination. We're under | :12:12. | :12:18. | |
pressure to see eight people a day, even if it is impossible to do. I'd | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
like to think the quality of my work is consistent. But the time | :12:22. | :12:27. | |
pressure doesn't help, and, working for ATOS is one of the least | :12:27. | :12:31. | |
popular things for health care professionals, it is pressurised | :12:31. | :12:36. | |
and being put on performance reviews. We wanted to ask ATOS | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
whether assessors had enough time to consider all relevant | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
information. They refused to be interviewed but told us their staff, | :12:44. | :12:49. | |
carry out thousands of assessments, in accordance with the detailed | :12:49. | :12:51. | |
guidelines with the Department of Work and Pensions. Any serious | :12:51. | :12:56. | |
suggestion that our work has fallen short of the high standards we set | :12:56. | :12:59. | |
ourselves is investigated as a matter of course. Two years in, | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
what does the Government's independent reviewer, think of the | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
assessment? It is better than it was. | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
Is it fit for purpose? If it is properly done along the | :13:11. | :13:15. | |
recommendations I made, it will be fit for purpose. Do you believe it | :13:15. | :13:19. | |
is fit for purpose right across the country? Noifplt it is patchy. | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
There will be people, who because we're in the interim period, who | :13:23. | :13:30. | |
will suffer, and I don't like that. Some GPs believe they're left to | :13:30. | :13:35. | |
pick up the pieces when patients fail assessments. I think people | :13:35. | :13:40. | |
who come to me distressed, having been on long-term benefits, for | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
some time with clear unresolveable physical problems, whereby they're | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
going for cursery examinations, very rapidly, and having previously | :13:48. | :13:53. | |
passed happily, are failing the tests and now deemed fit to work, | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
when they're clearly not. Far from saving money, Johnston says the | :13:57. | :14:02. | |
tests are adding to NHS costness poor areas. We're busy at the best | :14:02. | :14:07. | |
of times, and we're now having to fit in more people, whose | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
appointments are more for benefits than the health. The by question is | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
not whether the assessment process is failing sick and disabled people | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
but consequences for some of the people when the decision is wrong. | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
Sometimes it can be financially crippling, sometimes | :14:24. | :14:28. | |
psychologically distressing. But across the country we've spoken to | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
some families who say the consequences for their loveed ones | :14:31. | :14:41. | |
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The Hills have been a close family, living near each other. But one | :14:47. | :14:55. | |
person is missing from this picture. Steven Hill worked as a sandwich | :14:55. | :15:00. | |
delivery man, but he'd been having problems to his health. He blamed | :15:00. | :15:04. | |
the early starts, and that's why you're tired and struggling. When | :15:04. | :15:08. | |
he left work he was still tired and still struggling, that's when we | :15:08. | :15:15. | |
first knew. He was referred to tests on his heart, he stopped work | :15:15. | :15:20. | |
and applied for ESA, on his first Work Capability Assessment, wife | :15:20. | :15:23. | |
Denise was by his side. What happened at the first assessment? | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
They did his blood pressure, his heart a, and she says see a doctor | :15:29. | :15:34. | |
as soon as. Steve saw his consultant shortly afterwards, | :15:34. | :15:40. | |
within days he was diagnose with the heart failure. Then his ESA | :15:40. | :15:45. | |
results arrived. Remember it was the assessor who told Steve to seek | :15:45. | :15:52. | |
urgent medical help. He was passed fillet for work. How did you feel | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
when he was OK for work Shocked, because what she'd said, and like I | :15:56. | :16:00. | |
said to him, you have to appeal because you're not very well. | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
won his appeal, but the relief was short-lived. Within weeks he was | :16:05. | :16:11. | |
called back for another assessment, the progress was starting again. | :16:11. | :16:16. | |
got another letter for a medical. I can't couldn't believe it. He got | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
to go for a medical, when he was waiting for a heart operation, how | :16:21. | :16:26. | |
mad is that. The second assessor, seemed interested in Steve's knee | :16:26. | :16:34. | |
than anything else. I said what about his heart. She turned around | :16:34. | :16:39. | |
and said we're not here to talk business bi- his heart, we're here | :16:39. | :16:47. | |
to talk about his knee. The knee is nought aside from his heart. Once | :16:47. | :16:53. | |
again, Steve got zero points. In the report the assessor said | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
disability do you to cardiovascular problems seems unlikely. What | :16:57. | :17:03. | |
effect did that second assessment have on him? He was starting to get | :17:03. | :17:08. | |
to him then. He felt belittleed, he believed doctors are right, because | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
they're medical and professionals. He started thinking, I must be OK, | :17:12. | :17:17. | |
and fit for work, if they're telling me that I am. And moved the | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
car out, as he was taking the Hoover back in the house, that's | :17:22. | :17:27. | |
when he collapsed and had his heart attack and died. | :17:27. | :17:34. | |
Steven Hill died 39 days after found fit for work. I've lost my | :17:34. | :17:44. | |
best friend. A person I ka talk to. Tell me | :17:44. | :17:54. | |
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- could talk to. He had to go on signing on and going to doctors, he | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
should have been here, relaxing for his operation, not worrying for | :18:04. | :18:10. | |
notes for this and that the. Between January and August last | :18:10. | :18:14. | |
year, an average of 32 people who the Department of Work and Pensions | :18:14. | :18:21. | |
ruled could be helped back to work, died every week. I have a | :18:21. | :18:31. | |
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progressive disease. My brother ATOS Healthcare Government contract | :18:31. | :18:37. | |
is worth a billion pounds and runs until 2015, but much of it is | :18:37. | :18:40. | |
shrouded in mystery. We tried to get hold of the details of the | :18:40. | :18:46. | |
contract, but all they'd give us is a redackive version, they said it | :18:46. | :18:51. | |
was commercially confidentialal. But some people fear the reason so | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
many sick and disabled people failing the test, is because ATOS | :18:55. | :19:00. | |
is working to targets. Both ATOS and the Government strengthen with | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
usly deny any targets exist. Let's be absolutely clear, I do not have, | :19:05. | :19:11. | |
we do not have a financial target, for the reassessment people on | :19:11. | :19:16. | |
Incapacity Benefit or the level of new applications for ESA, which are | :19:16. | :19:20. | |
successful. Absolutely, categorically, unequivocally, there | :19:20. | :19:25. | |
is no financial target. Does ATOS have targets? No they don't. There | :19:25. | :19:28. | |
are no targets, anywhere in the system for numbers of people, to | :19:28. | :19:35. | |
move on to or off benefits. There may be no targets but there are | :19:35. | :19:41. | |
forecasts, showing how many people the DWP expect to come off benefits. | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
ATOS insiders confirmed numbers do seem to matter. If it is accepted | :19:46. | :19:50. | |
someone's too sick or disabled to work they're put into something the | :19:50. | :19:56. | |
support group, with full benefits of �96 a week. Three insiders told | :19:56. | :20:01. | |
us, there's internal pressure to avoid putting too many people in | :20:01. | :20:05. | |
that group. If you were support grouping more than whatever the | :20:05. | :20:10. | |
average is, about 20%, you're notified by your mentor, and if | :20:10. | :20:14. | |
you're castigateing doctors, nurses, phsyios for straying away from the | :20:14. | :20:20. | |
average, that kind of does have the feeling there are indeed targets. | :20:20. | :20:24. | |
Moving people off disability benefits when they've been living | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
on them for years isn't easy. The Government's answer is a work | :20:27. | :20:31. | |
programme, which includes something called the Work Related Activity | :20:31. | :20:36. | |
Group. It is for those, who with support, may be able to work again. | :20:36. | :20:41. | |
One of its architects was Professor Paul Gregg. There are a lot of | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
people who want to work. The disability community as a whole has | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
been strong and sorrowcal in saying, disabled people shouldn't be shut | :20:49. | :20:55. | |
out of the world of work. ESA is hoping they'll move people off | :20:55. | :21:00. | |
benefits and back into work. He is concerned people may be wrongly put | :21:00. | :21:03. | |
into the work related group. There's a question mark, in the | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
sense are there people, who are, inappropriately put into this kind | :21:07. | :21:13. | |
of programme, who really, there is no serious hope or prospect for | :21:13. | :21:22. | |
moving into work. Sharon Thompson suffers from a degenerative disease | :21:22. | :21:29. | |
of the spine and severe osteopour rows sis and osteoarthritis. She's | :21:29. | :21:34. | |
on morphine to ease the pain A lot of people say you have good days | :21:34. | :21:41. | |
and bad days, I don't know, because I'm never out of pain. I was a | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
security officer on plg sites. Sharon's husband is now her full | :21:45. | :21:50. | |
time carer. Going back, nobody ever imagineed their life can change in, | :21:50. | :21:57. | |
a short space of time. After her ESA assessment, Sharon was put in | :21:57. | :22:02. | |
the Work Related Activity Group. What did you think. I was | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
gobsmacked, it wasn't because I didn't want to work. But what work | :22:06. | :22:12. | |
can they give me. When I go to the toilet, my husband has to help me | :22:12. | :22:17. | |
to pull everything down for me and everything back up. You know what I | :22:17. | :22:22. | |
mean, what job can I do with somebody doing that. There are | :22:22. | :22:26. | |
Government schemes which help pay for specialist support in the | :22:26. | :22:31. | |
workplace. But Sharon felt that was unrealistic. She appealed, and won. | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
Then, she was put in the work related group again. She appealed | :22:35. | :22:41. | |
again, and won again. It must seem like a never-ending night mare to | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
you? Terrible. Because it never goes away in your mind. Every week | :22:45. | :22:52. | |
you're waiting for another form to come through. We've had people who | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
had multiple appeals and assessment, that can't be right can it? It is | :22:57. | :23:01. | |
apparent to me, we were calling people back too regularly. I | :23:01. | :23:06. | |
instructed the officials who operate the system to make sure we | :23:06. | :23:10. | |
leave a more sensible interval between the two. What you can't do | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
is go away and we won't talk to you again. This was the problem with | :23:14. | :23:20. | |
the old system. Since ESA was spwre duced, 7,000 people appealed | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
successfully and moved into the support group where it is accepted | :23:23. | :23:28. | |
they're unlikely to work again. There's a perception within DWP | :23:28. | :23:32. | |
there are large amounts of people on disability benefits who just | :23:32. | :23:37. | |
shouldn't be there, and what they're doing is try to find them | :23:37. | :23:41. | |
and weed them out. What is not done enough is to worry about the impact | :23:41. | :23:48. | |
it is having on people's lives depg through the process. Because of the | :23:48. | :23:54. | |
terrible and chronic Fatih I felt, I had to give up work and was | :23:54. | :23:58. | |
medically retired. I used to work in IT. But I had to give it up, | :23:58. | :24:05. | |
because of MS. Now I need help getting out of pedestrian. Dealing | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
with someone's fis disabilities is one thing. But what if they have | :24:09. | :24:14. | |
mental health problems? Well that's something they know all about here | :24:14. | :24:17. | |
at the Maudsley Hospital in south London. In fact they say they're | :24:17. | :24:27. | |
:24:27. | :24:29. | ||
picking up the tab for a system Andy King has buy polar disorder. | :24:29. | :24:35. | |
He was already feeling unwell when told he'd have to be reassessed for | :24:35. | :24:40. | |
ESA. This was a blow actually. I thought I might lose a big part of | :24:40. | :24:47. | |
my benefit, so that kind of was a body blow, and that's what resulted, | :24:47. | :24:53. | |
partially in me being admitted to the Maudely in mid-November. He was | :24:53. | :24:58. | |
catatonic and unable to speak. was told while I was in hospital, | :24:58. | :25:03. | |
they assessed me and put me in the work-related activity group around | :25:03. | :25:07. | |
about December. You were in hospital? Yeah. I was sectioned | :25:07. | :25:12. | |
under the Mental Health Act and they put me in the Work Related | :25:12. | :25:17. | |
Activity Group. The Maudsley has a dedicated welfare team. They appeal | :25:17. | :25:22. | |
the result and won. They say they're overwhelmed in helping | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
people like Andy fight wrong decisions. That's apart from the | :25:25. | :25:31. | |
cost of treating people, who feel they've been driven to the brink by | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
dealing with the system. We're having to call on the resources of | :25:34. | :25:37. | |
doctors and nurses and social workers to put everything | :25:37. | :25:42. | |
altogether to send off. This is all work you wouldn't have done before? | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
Wouldn't have done it before, no. Just going through the assessment | :25:46. | :25:52. | |
can be harrowing for many people with mental illness. We had a lady, | :25:52. | :25:56. | |
she had her care co-ordinator with her. They asked her many things | :25:57. | :26:02. | |
about her illness, our client had taken several overdoses and the | :26:02. | :26:08. | |
assessor said to them "well why aren't you dead?". So the client | :26:08. | :26:14. | |
became distraught at that point. Her care co-ordinator stopped the | :26:14. | :26:22. | |
interview. This is a lady with serious mental health problems? | :26:22. | :26:27. | |
They said if the interview was stopped, they would lose the | :26:27. | :26:37. | |
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benefits. We asked the assessors. The Government says the system is | :26:43. | :26:50. | |
being improved. ATOS assessors are retrained and staff at the DWP will | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
rely less heavily on ATOS assessments alone. There's some way | :26:53. | :26:56. | |
to G according to the man who recommended that training. There | :26:56. | :27:01. | |
are areas where it is still not working and yes I'm sorry there are | :27:01. | :27:05. | |
people going through a system which I think still needs improvements | :27:05. | :27:10. | |
and they haven't reached their neck of the woods, or appropriately by | :27:10. | :27:14. | |
these people because they haven't finished their training. | :27:14. | :27:16. | |
Government says despite the difficulties, it is in the end, for | :27:16. | :27:21. | |
the good of people, who are sick and disabled. There are people who | :27:21. | :27:26. | |
don't believe they can work any more, or have options to return to | :27:26. | :27:35. | |
the workplace. We're pushing them through David Cameron described as | :27:35. | :27:40. | |
"tough love" because we believe she can. Remember Marie Aldridge, she's | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
placed in the Work Related Activity Group. Marie is delighted and hope | :27:44. | :27:49. | |
she'll get the support she needs to get back in work. Chris had his | :27:49. | :27:55. | |
assessment the same day, but he's waiting for a result. Last week, he | :27:55. | :28:00. | |
started coughing blood and is back in hospital. Meanwhile, up and down | :28:00. | :28:05. | |
the country, tens and thousands of people are struggling with a system | :28:05. | :28:10. | |
they believe is at best frustrating and worse seriously damaging to | :28:10. | :28:15. | |
their health. If a patient, it is awful. For people who have | :28:15. | :28:20. | |
genuinely unwell, have not done anything wrong in their lives to be | :28:20. | :28:26. | |
put through this is despicable. question is now whether the process | :28:26. | :28:33. | |
judging them is itself fit for purpose. Next week, rats, bedbugs | :28:33. | :28:38. |