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Stoo Rats. That's it, under the rubbish, under the blue bin,

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there's a rat. Cockroaches. That's actually in the

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door lock in the frame. They are firmly settled in there. Bedbugs.

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The stuff of night mares. Oh God! All this black stuff is bedbug

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dropings. There's a nice big adult. These will turn up in the poshest

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hotels and houses. The pest controllers on the front line,

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trying them to stop invading our homes. Happy days, cockroach again.

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As budget cuts bite and councils cut back on pest control... Do you

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fear your job is at risk? Yeah but there's plenty of pests out there.

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We go undercover to test how easy it is to become a pest controller

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and get hold of dangerous chemicals. Whoever sells there, where we've

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just been, do not understand the consequences of what this can do.

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We meet the pests fighting back. The lowest point was when I found a

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family of rats living in the poison bag, living there happily. We ask,

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are we in danger of losing the war? We've got the world's most

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resistant rat in this part of the world, and increasingly that

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No-one knows how many rats there are in the UK. It could be anything

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from 6-20 million. It's oven said we're never more than ten feet away

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from one. But this man, Peter Roy True. What counts as a rat

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infestation. On the floor, you get a lot of these down here, which are

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rat dropings. These things? That's dropping, they're fresh as well

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because they're still skwishy. Peter is a pest controller with

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Southwark Council in south London. Today he has rats in his sights.

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When I open the chamber last week, about 10-15 rats come running out

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at me so. You might see a couple, out of the bin chamber. No sign of

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any rats so far. Just a corpse. Normally, they're decome posed in

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about five days. When the rat is eaten the poison, its body because

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boys news, so you couldn't chuck it in a normal bin. You're going to

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take that with you now? Yeah. I'll get a cab I think. Yeah. I've

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a lovely van I have. But it isn't long before a live rat makes a

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break for freedom. Under the rubbish, there's a rat. It didn't

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So, to get a better look we set up It wasn't long before we saw that

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this block of flats has a serious problem. Rats don't like the

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daylight, but here there were so many of them, they were happily out

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searching for food. It's driving the residents to despair. Saw them

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up the drain, I thought it is kittens, it is awful. It is

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absolutely awful. To me, they're dirty things. And they multiply so

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quickly. Is it embarrassing? It is embarrassing, so long as you don't

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see them you're safe. Once you see them coming, it is like invasion.

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It is absolutely vile. Peter is going to try and kill the rats

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using poison. Left unchecked, they can cause real harm. Including in

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extreme cases liver and kidney infections. We're talking about

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illnesses like, with rat infestations, wiels disease, a

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particularly nasty illness. The transfer of disease, through rats

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coming through sewers and into people's houses. It is a broken

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drain, that will need to be repaired that allowed the rats to

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come up from the sewers in Southwark. In the meantime Peter

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will continue to put poison down. Last year, council pest controllers

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in the UK made nearly 300,000 rat- related visits to people's homes,

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according to the British pest control association. While that

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helped, manage their impact on us, no-one really knows what it is

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doing to the overall rat population. Councils deal with all sorts of

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other pests. And no-one is immune. In Stevenage, council pest

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controller, Chris Woodard is getting reacquainted with an old

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friend. The bedbug. You do not want these feeding on you at night.

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but eradicated in British homes after the Second World War, they're

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back. Thanks to our world travel and it is a easily spread. It will

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have to be washed. Oh God. All this black stuff. That's bedbug dropings,

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and there's a nice big adult there. This bits moving here. Bedbugs like

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nothing better than waiting until you fall asleep and then feasting

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on your blood. This is no relationship to hygiene or anything.

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Nothing to do this at all. These will turn up in the poshest houses

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and hotels. The same with all the pests, rats, mice, cockroaches.

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Back in Southwark, Peter's turning his attention to another pest.

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Cockroaches in this one, we have avenue had reports on this one.

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Southwark looks after more council properties than any other borough

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in the capital. Council pest controllers made almost 20,000

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cockroach-related visits last year. This flat has such a bad pest

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problem that the person who lives here has had to move out. That one

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up on the doors, they're coming out to say hello now. One there, one

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there. When you consider one egg can up to 38 cockroaches in it, it

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can be out of control very fast. Southwark's 24 pest controllers

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make up the biggest team in the country. Last year, they made

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60,000 visits. What are they? are even more bedbugs here, they're

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live and come back to. Council tenants here in Southwark, get the

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service free. Peter's been dealing with outbreaks like these for six

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years. How do you keep positive, when this is your Dail routine?

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know I can get rid of them and make it better, so it is like that,

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these won't stay like this once I finish with it. You get a sense of

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satisfaction? Yeah, it is something I enjoyed in my working life. If

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you made someone happy in your day's work, you did good no matter

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what you get paid. Cockroach again. They're attracted to you. They love

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me. For several years councils have been reducing their pest control

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teams in order to save money. For now, Southwark is continuing to

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fund its pest control service. But since the Government's

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austerity drive the rate which they've been cut by councils has

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increased. To keep theirs some felt forced to introduce charges, like

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here in Stevenage, where they brought in a �47 fee last year.

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When the council introduced charges, what impact did that have? Dropped

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by 50% on the public health stuff, yeah. Why do you reckon that is.

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think the people just felt, I'll try and deal with it ourselves, and

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we'll go out and buy poison for a few pounds and try to deal with it

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themselves. You've seen rats up here then less? I've noticed them

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for two or three months x Today, Chris has come to help Les Benford,

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he's fighting a rat problem, and at the moment he's losing. What have

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you done to control them, have you put down poison? I virtually,

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filled the holes in with bricks and stones, hoping it would deter them,

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but it hasn't workeded. Face with the having to pay, many people try

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to get rid of pests themselves. But as less found out, it is not as

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easy as you might think. And using poisons can be dangerous. Most

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people I see put it down, put it down in a tollly inappropriate way,

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poisoning wildlife and doing themselves some harm. The �47

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charge here in Stevenage gets you as many visits as you need.

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Callouts have increased this year. But Chris is not taking his job for

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Four to two. Do you fear your job is at risk. Of course, who wouldn't

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in this day and age, in the way the public sector and private sector,

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jobs have been lost. Of course it is a risk. But they're still loads

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of pests out there. Cutbacks like those are worrying environmental

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health experts. Resources to actually deal with the problem,

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around the country, are diminishing. And so, I believe, that the problem

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will get worse. Populations will increase. Damage, and the potential,

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loss of well being, will be increased as well. Some councils

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are going much further, than just charging for a service which had

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been once been free. They're disbanding their teams altogether,

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in the last two years, 29 councils have completely shut down their

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service. Cornwall, council here got rid of the pest control service

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last year, as one family found out toity cost. When did you realise

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you had a rat problem, rather than the odd rat here and there? When I

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saw three or four of them scurrying on the patio, I thought, actually

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this is getting silly and starting to smell out here of rat pee.

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year-old Miriam and Moses love playing in the garden. Their mum,

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Cheryl who is tpwhot so keen because of the last 18 months

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they've had rats. We have to risk assess our garden to make sure

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there's no dead rats in the traps or doesn't smell of rat pee. I wipe

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the table, and wipe down the slide with spray disinfectant, because I

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don't know where the rats have been, have they been on my table, I don't

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know. No longer able to call on the council, they considered hiring a

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private firm. We were quoted �100 to look at the ground and see what

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they wanted to do. And then, for each time they come back, it would

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be more money. On the money that my husband and myself both bring in,

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because they're registered disabled, we don't have that much money to

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start w we live hand to mouth. Because they couldn't afford the

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private company, they bought traps and managed to kill a few rats

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themselves. But that's not got rid of them. Councils have to keep

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their land free of rats and mice, and in extreme circumstances, they

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can force you to do the same. But they aren't legally obliged to

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If you can afford it, go through a professional. If you can't. You say

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those who can, go through a professional, if they can't? It is

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the grey area, that the cuts affect somebody, I would still expect my

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staff to give advice. I don't like this, it and I wouldn't expect the

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public to like T but I can only deliver what I can afford.

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those who can afford to shop around, there are 47 firms in Cornwall and

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hundreds across Britain. Neil Parker works for one of them.

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it is Cleankill. Business is good for his London-based firm. Up 9% on

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last year. There are at the males amongst that

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lot. This job is part of a new contract

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with a housing association. Neil believes the tenant may have

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been living like this for sometime. There's a harbourage and

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conservation of cockroaches, that's in a door lock in the frame. If you

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can see them, they are, firmly settled in there. Cockroaches can

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contaminate food and trigger allergies and asthma attacks.

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is the gentleman's bedroom. You see the markings on the mattress,

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There's a bedbug. So not only has he a German cockroach infestation,

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he has bedbugs as well. He's living with the insects, so when he's

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sleeping, they're feeding and when he's awake, they're sleeping. It is

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a relationship, it is a vicious circle in the end. While some firms

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can compete with councils on cost, others can't. One leading private

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contractor is confident companies can pick up some of the slack

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Council cutbacks. There's nothing sacred about a pest cell team, for

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a number of years now, we have had an erosion, and the sky's not

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fallen out. There's not a sudden outbreak of pestness the locations

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that have had private contractors. There's no evidence using a private

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contractors will be inferior. so, their services may be out of

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reach for some of the most vulnerable. Local authorities are,

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the safety net for society. And many people who can't afford pest

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control need to find some sort of support. They're oven the ones that

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have the - often the ones that have the most serious problems near and

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where they live. There were 57 complaints about pest control

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companies in the last flee months and experts worry some are driven

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to the cheapest end of the market. To cowboys. Like me. You don't need

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any qualifications or license to become a pest controller. So I set

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up shop in an area that's done away with the council-run pest control

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teams Some phone numbers in a newsagent's window, and ads in

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local papers, and I'm almost set to g - go. Within the week the phone

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was reining. Unsuspected customers expecting a cheap and effective

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service, lucky for them, I passed on a pest controller, qualified to

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deal with the problems. In a matter of days, I proved how easy it is to

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set up in the pest control business. There's low barriers to entering in

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pest control. My concern is those people untrained and unlpsed and

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unregulated and uninsured, are going in people's houses and could

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potentially cause serious problems around health issues, up to and

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including something that could be lethal. I got the van, I know I can

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get the customers. Now, I'm going in search of the chemicals the pest

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controllers use. Some of them are incredibly dangerous. And as a

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cowboy, I shouldn't be able to get hold of them. The most dangerous on

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sale is in the same class as arsenic and strychnine. It is

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called aluminium phosphide. It is illegal to sell it to someone

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untrained like me. It is used to gas rats. We went under cover to

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test how well the law is being upheld. They should ask to see my

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ID and proof I know how to use this stuff safely. I visited eight shops

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Here I was turned away. It was the But at this shop it was a different

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Here the salesman asked me lots of I can't show a license, because I

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don't have one. He should see some proof I know what I'm doing. But

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after giving a false name and address, he sells it to me anyway.

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Aluminium phosphide is so dangerous, we're not allowed to transport it,

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so we have a pest controller who is qualified to carry it on hand to

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take it off us. This is seriously dangerous stuff. Very, very

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worrying. This stuff as you can see, it explains everything on here, it

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is incredibly dangerous to the environment, it's been known in the

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past to actually kill pest controllers who have not handled it

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in the long way. Locked out of Here, fewer questions. Again I

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She too, appears to be breaking the law. In total, we bought this

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poison from three of the eight shops we visited. I can't believe

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it. I can't believe it. These people clearly don't realise, what

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this stuff is. They, whoever sells this, where we've just been, do not

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understand the consequences of what this can do. Just one onity own,

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never mind two. It is crazy. Untrained, unlicenseed and

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unqualified. There's absolutely no way, that someone like me, should

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be getting hold of products as dangerous as this. After visiting a

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few shops and answering very few questions, here we are. Tighter

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regulations will be up and running by the end of next year, to

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preprevent the unlawful selling of product like these. They want to

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Of people's homes. The pest control industry is an important one.

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Because pest controllers should be our front line of defence against

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the bugs and residents that can have a serious impact on public

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health. But what happens when the pests fight back? You've always had

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rats here. Always had rats here, ever since I've been here and

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before. In the countryside, rats come with the territory. But two

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years ago, thousands of them nearly cost farmer David Cripps his

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livilihood in West Berkshire. How bad it was, at its worst, the rat

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problem. There wouldn't have been a building on the farm we wouldn't

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have seen a rat in. At that time. We were buying poison, at a fast

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rate of knots, and we just weren't killing the rats. What he didn't

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know then was his farm was in the middle of an area where rats had

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become resistant to the only poisons he was allowed to use.

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lowest point was when I found the family of rats living in the poison

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bag, and living there quite happily. They were eating a feeding it, and

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it was just like giving them Kandy, sweets. The problem began because

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of the genetic mutation in a smul number of rats which made them

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resistant to poisons, so their population grew. We got the world's

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most resistant rat in this part of the world. And inceasingly that

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resistance is spreading. Stranger rat reaistance has been found in

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areas from Kent to Scotland there. Are three stronger poisons he could

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use, but he's banned from putting them outdoors, because of the risk

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they poise to wildlife like this Red Kite. The problem is the

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resistant rat spread all of the country, and we're in a situation

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where you can use the three compounds at the present time

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you're not allowed to use. Although their use is controversial, the

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Health and Safety Executive is launching a consultation, about

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allowing the use of the stronger In the meantime, David's had to

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resort to extreme tactics with his war with his rats. This is a

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standard, air, 22 rifle, so it is running on 12 roupd and this is a

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night scope, which is ideal for the job. He's hireed local pest

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controllers, Stephen and Graham to shoot them. It's worst, team of

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three guns and the first night it was over 300 we shot. In one night?

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In one night. Did that make a dent in the population here? Not for the

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first week. Nothing at all. It's taken a long time to get to where

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we are now. But with rats the battle is never over. Stephen and

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Graham regularly bring their rifles So, resistant rats, rogue pest

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controllers and council cutbacks, they could all pose a serious risk

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to public health according to some experts. And they want a battle

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plan. They are a number of Government departments that have an

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interest in public health. Particularly with regard to pest

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control. The question is are they being co-ordinated in any shape or

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form. My view is no they're not. We don't know what the numbers are. We

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don't know whether or not we have the same populations of rodents now

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as we did 20 years ago. That data isn't available. Why not? We ought

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to be selecting it. - collecting it. We tried to find out who is taking

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the lead on pest control and public health. The Department of Health

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said it wasn't something for them. So we went to the Health Protection

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Agency, who passed us on. To here, the department for the environment,

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food and rural affairs, who told us that pest control wasn't really

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their problem. So they, like the Department of Health, sent us here,

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to the department for communities and local government. They didn't

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seem to want to take the lead either. They said, pest control is

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a matter for local councils. So, with no-one seemingly at the helm,

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and at a time of cutbacks, it is feared we may have to live with

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more pestness the future. If the cats can't do anything about it,

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and we can't afford it, we have to live with it, and bait our traps

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every night and remove the rats every morning As far as public

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health pests go, they would be out of control t would take

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considerable time and that's the problem of course. None of this is

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measureable quickly, it is going to be a long-term approach. If

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something will happen, it will be over, three, five, perhaps ten

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years. If you hadn't got the rat problem under control, what impact

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would it have had on your business? I wouldn't be in business t would

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have taken the business, because they would have won. Without a

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